Thanks NeWbIe. I was mainly irritated because different sellers stated different specifications for the same phone. Are there indeed versions of the X18i with only 256 MB RAM and 3 MP camera, and other versions of the X18i with 512 MB RAM and 8 MP camera? I don' t want to buy a phone which is advertised to have 512 MB RAM just to discover that the seller was wrong and the phone in truth only has 256 MB RAM.
Well if you want one specific model you can ask on the forum and maybe someone have it and say to you the real features and where did bought the phone.
I agree, if this one performs similar to 'regular' Galaxy II and i can get one around $400 this will be my next phone (With ZTE U960 as second option)
It's GSM + CDMA, and most of the world dont use CDMA.
If GSM+CDMA is what u are looking for there are a lot very good dual sim phone, such as the Motorola XT928 (the dual sim RAZR)
Motorola XT928, Samsung i929 would be very nice to have. But i wonder why they cant make them for the market in europe. We will , we will GSM and WCDMA/UTMS ..
Motorola XT928, Samsung i929 would be very nice to have. But i wonder why they cant make them for the market in europe. We will , we will GSM and WCDMA/UTMS ..
those model are tailor maded for China Telecom who has GSM and CDMA, i doubt dual GSM is of any interests to them.
Hi kingcedz. I know they are maded for the China market. But tell me. Why can't they make a top quality phone for the european market. They only make miserable phones. Not any top models. See Samsung and Motorola phones for european. not worth owning. Poor camera etc.
Hi kingcedz. I know they are maded for the China market. But tell me. Why can't they make a top quality phone for the european market. They only make miserable phones. Not any top models. See Samsung and Motorola phones for european. not worth owning. Poor camera etc.
The usual Single Sim phones made by Motorola and Samsungs for Europe are top notch. In fact, many of those models fetch high premium in China because of the quality.
Dual sim is a different game altogether. The chinese carriers are willing to subsedize for high quality dual sim GSM+CDMA because they support both network domestically, also they need the roaming support in their CDMA network, and dual sim is a easy way for them to achieve that.
In contrast, dual sim GSM in Europe is like asking why Vodafone dont paid Motorola so that Vodafone's customers can pay O2 some money. And without Telcos support its difficult for manufacturers to release high quality dual sim phones.
Here's Samsung official press about Y Duos': Samsung Mobile Press
They say "Powered by Android 2.3 Gingerbread and running on a powerful 832MHz processor" but don't say about chipset.
The specifications are great except battery : Connectivity: Bluetooth technology v 3.0 USB 2.0 Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n Sensor: Accelerometer, Digital compass, Proximity Memory: 4Gb(ROM) Ј« 3Gb(RAM) Ј« 2GB inbox
microSD card microSD (up to 32GB) Size: 109.8 x 60 x 11.98 mm, 109 g Battery: Standard battery, Li-ion 1,300 mAh Value-added Features:
Dual SIM
Samsung Apps
Samsung Kies 2.0
Samsung ChatON mobile communication service
(Downloadable via Samsung Apps)
Samsung TouchWiz
Social Hub
- Integrated Messaging(Email, SNS), Contacts/ Calendar Sync
- Basic: POP3/IMAP Email
Google Mobile Services- Android Market, Gmail, YouTube, Google Maps, Syncing with Google Calendar
A-GPS
And after a few tries I ve found there are better English ROM with the signal fix from the russian forum china-iphone.ru. Forum.China-iPhone.Ru • ???????? ???? - Lenovo A60/A65 (MT6573, 3.5" HVGA, W+G, GPS, Android 2.3.x)[/URL]
somewhere in the first few post there was a 2.3.5 based ROM from Javum (i think that's the name). and all you need to do is download the zip, and flash it from the recovery and job done.
Hi Kingcedz, thanks for posting your experience to date.
I'm also trying to fix my phone!
I purchased it from Etowalk, and while they since sent me a file to flash to the phone to
fix the O2 & Vodafone GSM signal for Republic of Ireland (which it did to their credit, i'm now running A60_S171_111025), but I can't get root on the phone (remove unwanted apps or install new apps)
I followed that link you posted, and it directs me to two links, one is a recovery file, the other I believe is the full file.
I saved the zip file to my hard drive, and when i tried to flash the file, it said there were files missing. ( even repeated downloads gave me the message that there were files missing).
If you wouldn't mind, could you go through in details, how you flashed the phone via the recovery file. tks
Here's Samsung official press about Y Duos': Samsung Mobile Press
They say "Powered by Android 2.3 Gingerbread and running on a powerful 832MHz processor" but don't say about chipset.
The EMS tracking website told me that my package was at my local PhilPost office, and that delivery had been attempted, on December 22 - however, the local Philpost had no knowledge of it.
Then, yesterday, a notice for collection of a package was left at my house - I went to collect first thing this morning. The package, although slightly deformed, was intact - there was no sign of any interference. The only payment I was asked to make was the standard PHP40 post office fee. The customs had not shown any interest!
Following information and advice posted by Bruno, I had changed my order from the G14 to the G11i Pro. Despite my aging eyesight, I decided that good performance was worth more than an extra .3" of screen.
I will attempt to produce a fuller review later, but initial impressions are very favourable. I have my Smart SIM in position 1 and Sun in position 2 - So far, I am getting good to excellent signal strength almost all the time. Just occasionally, the Smart SIM will report that restriction level has changed, and it goes to 'emergency calls only' state. However, even in this state, the status screen is showing good signal strength, and it doesn't last for more than a few seconds - I'm not sure what causes this. In two hours, I've not seen the Sun signal drop out even once. This is at home, where my Cherry Orbit would only receive a working Sun signal for about 5% of the day, or less, in short periods.
Camera quality is excellent, the UI looks good - I'd say that my overall impression is on the top side of my expectations.
I have bought 4 sofar, so I have some experience:
- Starlight HD2 (MTK6516) from lightintheBox
- B63M (MTK6573) with 265MB RAM from mobile-phones.cn
- B63M (MTK6573) supposed to have 4GB RAM, but really only 265MB RAM from ******
- HD7 (H7300) (MTK6573) from mobile-phones.cn
Tips:
- DON't buy a MTK6516 anymore!!
* Too slow
* Android Froyo 2.2 =old
* Bad network reception
* mostly no real GPS receiver.(data network needed)
- Go for MTK6573 at least
- Look for 512MB RAM at least. 265MB is too little. otherwise after 10 apps, internal memory is full. Also with BIG SD-card and apps2SD.
- B63M comes with CAIVS. Chinese app that sends sms messages to find out where the phones are sold and what providers are used. The sms cost you money. You have to root to uninstall caivs.apk
- HD7 has short battery life. I hardly make it to the end of the day(normal use) (on GPRS mode, wifi and bluetooth only 1hour on)
- B63M has fairly good batterly live. Almost 2 days with wifi on all the time and HSDPA mode. Bluetooth 1hour.(commute time)
The B63M is light and feels very good in the hand.
The HD7 is heavy, but has bigger and brighter screen.
The HD7 has same formfactor as HTC HD2. So desktop standard/charger, car holder and HTC HD2 battery fit.(tested)
The HD7 has more active custom OS development(Bruno Martins) downloaded, but not tested yet.
Conclusion:
The only point of improvement of the Chinese Dual Sim phones would be more internal memory(RAM). at least 4GB.
Give me a couple of days - I've not had time to get it to 100% charge!
However, I've just arrived home from the farm and the phone held a usable signal on Smart for most of the time. The Cherry Orbit was always 100% dead there. Sun is no-go at the farm - no phone gets a Sun signal there.
The EMS tracking website told me that my package was at my local PhilPost office, and that delivery had been attempted, on December 22 - however, the local Philpost had no knowledge of it.
Then, yesterday, a notice for collection of a package was left at my house - I went to collect first thing this morning. The package, although slightly deformed, was intact - there was no sign of any interference. The only payment I was asked to make was the standard PHP40 post office fee. The customs had not shown any interest!
Following information and advice posted by Bruno, I had changed my order from the G14 to the G11i Pro. Despite my aging eyesight, I decided that good performance was worth more than an extra .3" of screen.
I will attempt to produce a fuller review later, but initial impressions are very favourable. I have my Smart SIM in position 1 and Sun in position 2 - So far, I am getting good to excellent signal strength almost all the time. Just occasionally, the Smart SIM will report that restriction level has changed, and it goes to 'emergency calls only' state. However, even in this state, the status screen is showing good signal strength, and it doesn't last for more than a few seconds - I'm not sure what causes this. In two hours, I've not seen the Sun signal drop out even once. This is at home, where my Cherry Orbit would only receive a working Sun signal for about 5% of the day, or less, in short periods.
Camera quality is excellent, the UI looks good - I'd say that my overall impression is on the top side of my expectations.
Congratulations! I was so afraid that you might get taxed by customs. Now i will order same phone and same route and same delcaration as you. Btw, how much did etotalk declare the amount of the package?
Congratulations! I was so afraid that you might get taxed by customs. Now i will order same phone and same route and same delcaration as you. Btw, how much did etotalk declare the amount of the package?
Thanks in advance!
It was declared at US$60.
Was back at the farm today and was pleasantly surprised to find that while my wife was complaining that she had no Smart signal on her Nokia N97mini, I was happily texting!
So, it would appear that my G11i Pro has a better signal performance than a highend Nokia!
Congratulations! I was so afraid that you might get taxed by customs. Now i will order same phone and same route and same delcaration as you. Btw, how much did etotalk declare the amount of the package?
Thanks in advance!
Are you sure? Here in the Netherlands, the custom's bill normally arrives a few weeks after the package. But 60usd is not much, nor would be any taxes.
I have checked with a few more merchants and people who bought XT532 from taobao after sending the last post, the ones currently on sale are all without google apps.
The Android market was replaced by MOTO's own app market, and apps like Gmail, Gtalk, Youtube are not there.
I can't confirm the part about WO, it looks like there are some phones on sales are without the WO symbols but they dont have stock Google Apps either.
It seems the ones that will be on sale in Hong Kong and Taiwan are different version to the ones currently on sale in China on taobao (which is the one engadget did review on), but will have to wait till Jan or Feb to see if that is the case.
kingcedz, are you aware of any reviews on XT532, including battery life? Etotalk now has dropped the price to 359usd.
Are you sure? Here in the Netherlands, the custom's bill normally arrives a few weeks after the package. But 60usd is not much, nor would be any taxes.
Absolutely sure! You don't know how things work here in Philippines - there's no way that the package would have been released if there was a charge to pay.
Now my wife wants me to order another G11i Pro for her!
No idea really, but since this is software related there is a good chance that you can install it afterwards.
I had the w7272 with the same issue: could not get the market working.
so it is not easy, but when a phone becomes popular, someone will manage. But if you are the first one to buy it, you dont know if it gets popular.
today i bought the unlocked XT532 from Taiwan (in ebay listed)... hoping good...
I have had my second XT532 for a couple of days (the first one was faulty and got exchanged.) The biggest drawback is that it doesn't support google services. You can't bind a google account to the phone, so you can't use things like android market, Gmail client, or Google+. I hope yours is unlocked and according to the ad. on ebay, it supports those google services.
biibuu , i bought a "unlocked" version of XT532, the sellers wrote "fully support to Google Android Market and Google Services." I read are differences betweeen customized XT532 for China market and the version for the rest of the world. Hope it will be so, but some people who bought other smartphone by this seller told me he is very affordable.
Can you tell me if is good antenna signal? And how fast is the second sim reconnection after call? Audio quality in conversation? Wifi ok?
Thanks
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I have had my second XT532 for a couple of days (the first one was faulty and got exchanged.) The biggest drawback is that it doesn't support google services. You can't bind a google account to the phone, so you can't use things like android market, Gmail client, or Google+. I hope yours is unlocked and according to the ad. on ebay, it supports those google services.
biibuu, where did you buy it? Do you have a link to the site where you brought it from?
pwey look also on ebay..you will find it "unlocked" at a reasonable price.
yes, I saw it. I wait until you are happy with it. Still wondering if customs will 'see' it, so I am interested in how it is packed. Also etotalk has one on ebay, but they confirmed that the google apps are NOT on it, whereas on their website they say they can put it on. The bidded price immediately dropped a lot.
yes, I saw it. I wait until you are happy with it. Still wondering if customs will 'see' it, so I am interested in how it is packed. Also etotalk has one on ebay, but they confirmed that the google apps are NOT on it, whereas on their website they say they can put it on. The bidded price immediately dropped a lot.
Etotalk is a chinese company and sell XT532 (and other smartphone) for chinese market...so i'm not surprised the google apps are not on it..
Hoping well for the extra China version of XT532, as the taiwanese seller wrote.
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What are the perks to dual sim phones, other than more storage? It seems like they sacrifice a lot just to have 2 slots.
2 sims are very important to saving money... The market of dual sim phone is in evolution, probably new better hardware in the future will arrive...
What are the perks to dual sim phones, other than more storage? It seems like they sacrifice a lot just to have 2 slots.
My employer provides me a mobile phone for business purpose, but I'm not allowed to use it for private calls. So I need to carry two phones, one with the business and one with a private sim card. A dual sim phone would spare me this inconvenience.
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I have one sim for 3g servica and really cheap sms service, other one for cheap calls, operator services market in the czech republic is really stuck-in-the-mud. . But what I need for that is decent peace of hardware. Whats the best model I can use in Europe by now? Anyone has a hot tip?
Maybe, there is a time to move from my FET T8888, working well by now, but the battery life is relativelly poor when using 3G, wifi service . May be that is because i measured with Battery Monitor Widget Pro really different capacity then declared (1850 mAh), maybe..? But android itself is the CONSUMER, thats true.
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My employer provides me a mobile phone for business purpose, but I'm not allowed to use it for private calls. So I need to carry two phones, one with the business and one with a private sim card. A dual sim phone would spare me this inconvenience.
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hi all
i have had the Huawei U8520 "Deuce" for about 3 week now and can report that it is great. its android 2.2 600Mhz. 3.2M camera and the battery life is great. it has one 3G slot and the other is just GSM. sure its never going to be a galaxy s2 in terms of spec but if all your looking for is a solid android dual sim phone then i would highly recommend it. also the build quality is superb - better than anything ive ever had eg:- nokia, samsung, motorola.
i ordered it off ebay and it was delivery from Taiwan - took about 11 days to the uk. it said on the ebay shop that customs cost etc were not covered and would need to be paid on delivery but that they would make the package as a gift. i did not have to pay anything when it was delivered which was definately a bonus.
What are the perks to dual sim phones, other than more storage? It seems like they sacrifice a lot just to have 2 slots.
The SIM has very little to do with storage - how many people still hold their contacts or messages on the SIM. Using the phone memory for these purposes gives much more flexibility and convenience ... unless you regularly change handset.
No, the real benefit of a dual SIM phone is that it allows you to use two different service providers, while keeping all your contacts, message, diary etc in one place, and only carrying a single handset. For instance, in Philippines, I use both Sun and Smart. In UK, you might use both Orange and O2.
I have one sim for 3g servica and really cheap sms service, other one for cheap calls, operator services market in the czech republic is really stuck-in-the-mud. . But what I need for that is decent peace of hardware. Whats the best model I can use in Europe by now? Anyone has a hot tip?
It depend if you choose a brand phone or chinese phone... I preferred ever the first, better and sure warranty service and quality of parts. I live in Europe and i ordered a Motorola XT532, good balance for me between performance and phone dimensions (i don't like bigger screen). LG P698 seems to be also good phone (same Qualcomm 800 Mhz processor).
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ok, also ordered 1. will be shipped on Friday. please let me know when your phone arrives.
mine was shipped yesterday...sure i will write you when the phone arrives!
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I have bought 4 sofar, so I have some experience:
- Starlight HD2 (MTK6516) from lightintheBox
- B63M (MTK6573) with 265MB RAM from mobile-phones.cn
- B63M (MTK6573) supposed to have 4GB RAM, but really only 265MB RAM from ******
- HD7 (H7300) (MTK6573) from mobile-phones.cn
Tips:
- DON't buy a MTK6516 anymore!!
* Too slow
* Android Froyo 2.2 =old
* Bad network reception
* mostly no real GPS receiver.(data network needed)
- Go for MTK6573 at least
- Look for 512MB RAM at least. 265MB is too little. otherwise after 10 apps, internal memory is full. Also with BIG SD-card and apps2SD.
- B63M comes with CAIVS. Chinese app that sends sms messages to find out where the phones are sold and what providers are used. The sms cost you money. You have to root to uninstall caivs.apk
- HD7 has short battery life. I hardly make it to the end of the day(normal use) (on GPRS mode, wifi and bluetooth only 1hour on)
- B63M has fairly good batterly live. Almost 2 days with wifi on all the time and HSDPA mode. Bluetooth 1hour.(commute time)
The B63M is light and feels very good in the hand.
The HD7 is heavy, but has bigger and brighter screen.
The HD7 has same formfactor as HTC HD2. So desktop standard/charger, car holder and HTC HD2 battery fit.(tested)
The HD7 has more active custom OS development(Bruno Martins) downloaded, but not tested yet.
Conclusion:
The only point of improvement of the Chinese Dual Sim phones would be more internal memory(RAM). at least 4GB.
Would MTK6516 or Starlight HD2 be faster than the Optimus V that I have. Also can the MTK6516 be rooted and its rom changed? And does it have 3G if I was use a T-Mobile sim card?
Hello! This is my first post here, I greet all of you.
I am looking for a phone with the following specs:
Dual Sim (dual active)
Quad Band
Android 2.3 or higher
Full Gmail support
CPU Frequency 650 MHz minimum
At least 1 of the 2 Sims has to run HSDPA
Available in Europe (ideally Austria)
Right now, the only phone availble in Austria is the Viewsonic V350, and there's no other - for now. I do not count in the Simvalley SPX-5 since it is too big, more a tablet than a phone.
Fortunately Samsung stated that they would bring 2 new phones to Europe, the Galaxy Y Duos (touchscreen) and the Galaxy Y Pro Duos (blackberry style).
I read about and heard about other phones, like the Motorola XT531 (or 532), the LG Optimus Net Dual P698 or the Gigabyte G1345. And of course a bunch of others, also mentioned in the posts of this thread. None of these seem to be available in Europe.
What would you recommend? I do not want to by a phone from a Chinese online trader to find out that I have to pay all shipping, do not get any support and cannot use HSDPA. I tend to wait for the Samsungs to become available. Is there any better choice? Are you aware of any other phones which you think are good? Thanks for any advice!
Would MTK6516 or Starlight HD2 be faster than the Optimus V that I have. Also can the MTK6516 be rooted and its rom changed? And does it have 3G if I was use a T-Mobile sim card?
i think florisz was quite clear: don't buy MTK6516 anymore! If you want to be cheap, you can opt for a MTK6573 such as the A60 or many others.
Hello! This is my first post here, I greet all of you.
I am looking for a phone with the following specs:
Dual Sim (dual active)
Quad Band
Android 2.3 or higher
Full Gmail support
CPU Frequency 650 MHz minimum
At least 1 of the 2 Sims has to run HSDPA
Available in Europe (ideally Austria)
Right now, the only phone availble in Austria is the Viewsonic V350, and there's no other - for now. I do not count in the Simvalley SPX-5 since it is too big, more a tablet than a phone.
Fortunately Samsung stated that they would bring 2 new phones to Europe, the Galaxy Y Duos (touchscreen) and the Galaxy Y Pro Duos (blackberry style).
I read about and heard about other phones, like the Motorola XT531 (or 532), the LG Optimus Net Dual P698 or the Gigabyte G1345. And of course a bunch of others, also mentioned in the posts of this thread. None of these seem to be available in Europe.
What would you recommend? I do not want to by a phone from a Chinese online trader to find out that I have to pay all shipping, do not get any support and cannot use HSDPA. I tend to wait for the Samsungs to become available. Is there any better choice? Are you aware of any other phones which you think are good? Thanks for any advice!
If you want a Gigabyte G1345 in Italy is a company that sell it as renamed "McOnsen", with warranty. Google it , is the first result.
Thank you, bluemask, this looks good. I cannot read Italian, but it should definitely not be too hard to order there. Nevertheless, I would want to wait to see "European Market Phones" appearing on the horizon.
Hi kingcedz. I know they are maded for the China market. But tell me. Why can't they make a top quality phone for the european market. They only make miserable phones. Not any top models. See Samsung and Motorola phones for european. not worth owning. Poor camera etc.
Sadly there is a very simple reason behind this: money.
I guess pressure comes from two parts:
- telephon companies, if dual sims phones get a large diffusion, then many users will save money
- the hardware manufacter itself. If you have two sims, you are likely to buy two phones...
Look, in italy for example there are more sims than people, you can image the business behind..
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. But what I need for that is decent peace of hardware. Whats the best model I can use in Europe by now? Anyone has a hot tip? 
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