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Old April 7th, 2011, 02:45 AM   #51 (permalink)
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hello007> I have no idea why it shouldn't work. There are no special requirements for Skype AFAIK.

Regarding the Chinese clone I bought, I updated the SW (it was a pain in the ass, it took me many hours although I'm very experienced with phones and computers). Unfortunately the new ROM didn't solve the main problem - incorrectly working touch screen (receives clicks even if I'm not touching it). I plan to send the phone back because it is completely unusable.

I'll wait until May for the GSmart.

I searched and found a specific date in Bulgaria. Google translate helped met out :-)

vali_dot_bg -> 30 April for the Rola and 173€. I hope the Skate will also arrive soon. The specifications are better.

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Default Eclipse Android 2.2 mobile phone - no skype calls via wifi

Hi

I have an Android 2.2 dual sim Eclipse mobile phone.

I downloaded the latest versions of Skype - all installed with no problem.

However all refuse to let me log in.

I then downloaded the Skype Beta Lite.

It allows me to make Skype calls - but only by using my sim card to dial the Skype local access number - this costs me heaps on my mobile - so its rather pointless for me.

But it wont make calls via wifi. I can't understand why?

However I cannot figure out how to make the Skype Beta Lite to make calls via my home Wifi - the mobile works fine with it - but Skype Beta Lite refuses all efforts to call via my wifi.

Can you help?

It amazes me that it will only call via sim card -- and not wifi?

Please help

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Default white eclipse dual sim android mobile

any idea if this phone has sms templates and outbox and inbox, sms forwarding etc as cant find it on my white eclispe phone..thanks
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heebs> The functions don't depend on the phone. It is up to the SMS program you use. There are many SMS applications for Android which you can download.
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Hi,
I have the dual sim dual standby HTC Desire HD clone running Android 2.2.1 and was wondering if when an update to Android is available will this still give me dual sim operation.
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rsstvc> If it is from the phone manufacturer, then yes. But Android doesn't allow dual-sim by default. So to support it, the manufacturers had to implement the functionality themselves. Since Android is opensource, they could modify the codes and add this feature. I don't know if the source codes are available so knowledgeable people can modify them. Chinese manufacturers are known for not obeying GPL licence (which forces them to release the modified sources).

Because the modification to add dual-sim support is quite complicated, I don't think they will release Android 2.3 update anytime soon.
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Hi,

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hello! I'm amongst those who need dual sim cellphones in order to keep life possible. I already have to carry a million eletronic devices for work, including laptop, high quality GPS and digital camera, so adding 2 or 3 cellphones to that sucks.

I'm currently using one of those chinese dual sim cellphones, it's very basic and as far as dual sim goes, it works all right - i've had that for a whole year so durability is ok as well. however, I'd really want a high end phone, and have been waiting for ages for a decent OS system on a dual sim phone. the ones released by motorola, samsung and LG (at least the ones i've seen around here in Brazil) are way too simple and definetely too expesive to what they offer.

As I read this thread I got all excited that there are some proper android dual sims on their way, but as far as I noticed it, none of them have qwerty keyboards (or any physical keyboards at all, really). That really sucks for me. I am in the habit of typing withou looking at the keyboard and of course thats impraticable with the virtual ones.

Anyone knows why it is that none of the future releases have keyboards?
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The only dual sim with qwerty keyboard is this: Product Information

The choice of dual sim smartphones is very limited. It is true, that lately a lot of them from Chinais available. But they are different only from the outside, inside is always the same MTK6516 chipset, which is slow and has no 3D acceleration.

Just this week finally the Gigabyte GSmart G1317 started selling. But I'll wait for the little better G1310.

But although these phones are better then all the Chinese clones, they have 2 years old chipset. You won't find any dual sim with Cortex-A8 CPU (1 year old). And there is absolutely no chance for this year's Cortex-A9. But I heard that Yuhua (the manufacturer of the MID mentioned above and also maker of X2, the first Android dual sim) is working on a Cortex-A8 equipped dual sim.
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So we can all work on answering the OPs question, I just started a wiki page specifically for tracking and comparing all the dual sim android phones.

Folks, please help fill in the chart.
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smurfOnE> Nice summary. I think you should also add the GSmart G1317. It is basically the same phone as G1310, but with resistive display and worse camera. The phone is already available here, the G1310 should start selling within a few weeks.

P.S. Rola is the name of G1317, not G1310.
P.S.2 The fake HTC G7 is in fact a regular Android phone. Only the name and design is fake. Inside is MTK6516 460MHz. The same chipset is used in all other Chinese clone phones.
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smurfOnE> Nice summary.
Hi, where can I buy the GSmart G1317? Is it available for Brazil? Is there any website selling this phone?

Thank you all for reply!
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In Czech Republic it is available for preorder for example here: GIGABYTE GSmart G1317D Rola + náhradní stylus ZDARMA! | MALL.CZ

I don't about availability in other countries, but you might try to ask Gigabyte directly: GSmart
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In Czech Republic it is available for preorder for example here: GIGABYTE GSmart G1317D Rola + náhradní stylus ZDARMA! | MALL.CZ

I don't about availability in other countries, but you might try to ask Gigabyte directly: GSmart
Jech, I too am interested in a phone such as G1300. Have you been able to use Skype (the full skype) with android dual sim phones?

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I can't confirm it, since I currently don't have an Android phone. I had DSTL1 but the phone isn't working anymore. Currently I have GSmart S1205 with Windows Mobile.

But AFAIK the Skype is normally available through Android Market and there are no restrictions regarding HW. So it should work on all Android devices.

But the preferred IM/VoIP on Android is GoogleTalk.
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Can the Viewsonic v350 be charged via USB? Or the Gsmart G1317D?

Anyone know where the v350 can be bought?
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smurfOnE> All Android phones I have seen are charged via USB. The ViewSonic is not selling yet.

jassi771> Interesting phone. But the specification is quite strange. MediaTek chipset 600 MHz. I've never heard of such chipset. I only know the very slow MTK6516 with 416 MHz.
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The v350 was launched in Taiwan yesterday!

The suggested price is around $345
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The v350 was launched in Taiwan yesterday!

The suggested price is around $345
I'm having difficulty finding it. Has anyone found an online retailer selling the v350?

(EDIT) Found one site in Taiwan selling the v350
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Regarding battery life and reliability on voice calls and SMSs, which is the best Android phone (DUAL SIM, simultaneously) we can buy nowadays?
In my opinion the best Android phone with dual SIM coming out of China has to be the HTC T8585 (LEO) running Android 2.2. These are the specs:

OS: ANDROID 2.2
CPU: Qualcomm(R) 8250B 1024MHz
Phone Type: Dual SIM Dual Standby phone; Bar design
GSM services: GSM/GPRS/EDGE:850/900/1800/1900MHZ
Memory and storage: 512M ROM+256M RAM , support TF card maximum expansion of 32G
Screen: 4.3-inch,WVGA, Capacitance screen
Battery Capacity: 1230 mAh
Main Functions: FM, Built GPS voice navigation system, SIRF Star Ⅲ navigation chip, WIFI wireless Internet access, Android2.2 Gphone, mobile stock market, mobile QQ / MSN / Skype, Office document reader / editor, e-mail various, e-book readers, English-Chinese Dictionary, 3D gravity sensor, Dual SIM Card Dual Standby
Game function: Built several Game, PPC Game / JAVA Games / 3D Games / Simulation Games download
Size (mm): 120X67X11mm(LxWxH)
Antenna: Built-in
Camera (Back): Dual cameras, 2.0 Mega pixel, support audio video camera, support network camera
Camera (Front): 1.3 Mega Pixel CMOS
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Gadgetlesstech> Are you sure the phone has a 1 GHz Qualcomm CPU? I seriously doubt it. All Chinese phones I've seen use MTK6516 416MHz CPU.
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what about the apollo?
Apollo - Dual SIM Android 2.2 Smartphone with Capacitive Touchscreen (Black)
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boyette> Just another Chinese MTK6516 phone. There are many similar phones, but the performance and quality is poor.

Btw. I heard that ViewSonic V350 is already selling in Thailand. Anybody here got one and would like to share some opinions on it?
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i just came across this thread and its very helpful, i've been looking for a good android dual sim GSM phone for the past few weeks. 1 sim for work and the other for personal use. i haven't found one with good features and reasonable price that's not a clone. i'm from the philippines, it would be nice if someone could recommend one.

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The v350 is being sold in Germany as well (~€200).. but only offered by one merchant -- and it's a merchant that does not accept credit card!

No thanks.. I'll wait till it is available by credit card.
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Gadgetlesstech> Are you sure the phone has a 1 GHz Qualcomm CPU? I seriously doubt it. All Chinese phones I've seen use MTK6516 416MHz CPU.
I am certain that it has this processor. I have sold many of these units and also use one as my personal phone. If you PM me an email address I can take and send you photos from the system info log within the phone. I know that the majority of these phones come with some kind of MTK processor ranging from 400 - 600 MHz, but the ones that I have been buying for more than a year definitely have this processor. If you were to take one of the MTK phones and run it side by side, the difference in speed in definitive.
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Gadgetlesstech> For example here you can see the phone has the usual MTK6516 chipset, but it's faked to look like 1GHz Qualcomm. You can't really trust the phone info.

Try to install an application, which requires ARMv7 CPU (Firefox, Flash) and you'll instantly see if you have a 1GHz Qualcomm.
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Great thread and thanks for the reference table

Sounds like I'll have to wait a little longer, forwarding one number to the other and flipping simcards in and out with my Symbian Nokia E71!

I think there's a V350 in stock at the German place that doesn't take cards now but I'm a bit too cautious to actually buy it!
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is better to wait G1315 Skate. v350 look good but i doubt on tis phone without any review on use at a seller.

P.S. the german seller im sure that he will acept pay pal or another secure payment service (if is onest dealer).
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I think there's a V350 in stock at the German place that doesn't take cards now but I'm a bit too cautious to actually buy it!
You should have bought it, because the price just jumped from €205 to €240!

In Europe merchants are obligated to honor their advertised prices. So if you place an order and it turns out to be a price mistake, the store legally must execute the order at a loss.

Although since they don't take credit card, they could keep your money and you have no recourse other than using a German court. I'm not saying you can't trust German merchants.. but the problem is that you need to trust them, because there is no possibility of a chargeback if a dispute occurs.

If I knew the price was going to jump like that, I probably would have bought a couple phones at risk anyway. Too late!
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€240 is still a good price. It is about as much as G1310 preorder price.

Anyway I need to know more about these 2 phones to decide which one to get. The possibility of rooting the phone and flashing unofficial ROMs is the most important feature to me.
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Are most Androids dual-bootable (linux/droid), or is this somewhat unique? Of the dual-sim droids, I've only heard that the Yuhua X2 can do this.
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Android is Linux. There are some dual boot phones with Android / WM. But it's not common.

Linux is the core of Android operating system. Android is the user interface built on top of it. Another UI built on top of Linux core and targeted to be used on mobile phones is MeeGo, which is developed by Intel (Nokia used to develop it too, before M$ corrupted them to switch to Windows Phone 7). The only phones I know that can run MeeGo are Nokia N900 and Nexus S.

I'm afraid you're probably confusing something. What did you mean by "dual-bootable (linux/droid)"?
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Android is Linux. There are some dual boot phones with Android / WM. But it's not common.

Linux is the core of Android operating system. Android is the user interface built on top of it. Another UI built on top of Linux core and targeted to be used on mobile phones is MeeGo, which is developed by Intel (Nokia used to develop it too, before M$ corrupted them to switch to Windows Phone 7). The only phones I know that can run MeeGo are Nokia N900 and Nexus S.

I'm afraid you're probably confusing something. What did you mean by "dual-bootable (linux/droid)"?
With linux, the kernel includes more than you seem to realize. The drivers actually run in the kernel space (which is unfortunate). This means closed proprietary hardware drivers could be packaged with the rest of what you're calling the kernel. This is actually what happens with Maemo, which runs on Nokia tablets. This enables the supplier to maintain control over the system. In the worst case, a supplier could even do some arbitrary encryption in one of the drivers, and then add to the user agreement that the platform cannot be manipulated or that you cannot run their competitors software, which would in effect use the DMCA to criminalize modifications. Having Android based on linux doesn't save us from that.

Google is a controlling, privacy-intruding, profit-driven corporate giant that profits from privacy intrusions. Although this is to a lesser extent than all google's competitors, an open-source GNU system has its merits, particularly with all the expectation about the rapidly growing trend to produce malware and spyware for smartphones. When a large majority of users are running Android - the single homogeneous system that everyone else runs, all with the same bugs to exploit, it becomes an attractive target both to hackers as well as corporations doing barely legal forms of data mining.

So back to my original question.. If a phone has the support of GNU developers who have written open drivers for all the hardware, freeing the device from corporate control, and thus the option of running "GNU linux" (e.g. Debian), or perhaps something more obscure like BSD, I would find that very favorable. And as I understand it, Debian runs on the Yuhua X2. Part of what makes that possible is having a hackable boot loader. If a phone has a locked down boot loader, I'm less interested. I'm not sure if that's a rampant problem or not.

In the end, I would like to have an idea of the hackibility of the different dual sim android models.
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I never heard about the possibility to run Debian on Yuhua X2 although I had this phone. I know there are ports of different desktop Linux distributions for Nexus and other phones. But it is not very usable.

I agree with you that the possibility to lock the device (mainly by proprietary drivers) is the biggest problem of Android.

Unfortunately I don't know any device which would have opensource drivers for all it's HW. The most problematic part is usually GPU.

I think that MeeGo is more open then Android. I was expecting it to be a very successful OS for Nokia, but then they switched to the useless WP7 which is even more locked then iOS. Fortunately there are still some mobile phone companies interested in MeeGo (LG, ZTE), so we might see some devices in a near future. As for HW drivers, Intel still hasn't developed a working Linux driver for their GMA500/GMA600 graphics (which is in fact PowerVR SGX 535, used in iPad and iPhone). The situation regarding drivers is better with AMD Fusion, since they use their own GPU and make Linux drivers, but it will take them at least 2 years before their chipset will be energy efficient enough for a phone.

What you want is a nice dream, I have the same one. But I'm afraid there is no chance for a really open device. There was an initiative to build such device (Openmoko Freerunner), but it wasn't successful.

From the really existing devices and OS, I think an Android phone with an unlocked bootloader is the best choice. The system is opensource and you can flash unofficial ROMs, if someone creates them. Unlike iOS or WP7, you don't have to use any of Google's services, if you don't want to.

To get back on the topic, so far I have no information regarding the possibility to flash custom ROM on the available and upcoming Androids. I saw some information about a custom recovery (this is SW which can flash a custom ROM to a phone) for some Chinese MTK6516 phones. But unfortunately all the information was Chinese and Google Translate didn't help much.
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You should have bought it, because the price just jumped from €205 to €240!

In Europe merchants are obligated to honor their advertised prices. So if you place an order and it turns out to be a price mistake, the store legally must execute the order at a loss.

Although since they don't take credit card, they could keep your money and you have no recourse other than using a German court. I'm not saying you can't trust German merchants.. but the problem is that you need to trust them, because there is no possibility of a chargeback if a dispute occurs.

If I knew the price was going to jump like that, I probably would have bought a couple phones at risk anyway. Too late!
how the german sell this already? !

"Delivery Area: limit the island of Taiwan (the Outer Islands, friends, please use the address as the shipping address friends and relatives in Taiwan.)"


" Is expected to arrive after the end of June according to the order listed on the order of ~ sent one after another
SIM1 GSM+WCDMA,SIM2 GSM
Note: SIM card 1 supports GSM + WCDMA, SIM card only supports GSM 2."

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Regarding battery life and reliability on voice calls and SMSs, which is the best Android phone (DUAL SIM, simultaneously) we can buy nowadays?

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There is no Dual SIM Card phone with android system from any popular brands like HTC, Samsung or others, But i know that there is one good Dual SIM card Phone with Android system from china called Arcturus - Dual SIM Android 2.2 Smartphone

This is one of best dual sim card android phone in market, price also very reasonable. you can get this phone at simsimgate.com

here is the product link, take a look

Arcturus - Dual SIM Android 2.2 Smartphone with Multi-Touch Capacitive Touchscreen


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There is no Dual SIM Card phone with android system from any popular brands like HTC, Samsung or others,
Motorola, Viewsonic, and Philips are all reputable brands, and all make a dual sim Android.

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But i know that there is one good Dual SIM card Phone with Android system from china
Very difficult to rely on a Chinese phone. These things have fake OSs, bogus hardware specs (and they go as far as to make the hardware id itself with bogus info to match the bogus spec), and there are actually cases of these phones with Chinese batteries exploding.. I kid you not. There is zero quality control. Most of these Chinese phones have hardware failures inside of a year of buying.
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Hello007, heebs, or brianj71 > I was wondering if your AT&T was finding 3G signal and data? How do you like the phone so far and what are drawbacks if any? Is the touch screen a common problem for you three that own it? Please let me know I am considering buying one to avoid using a smartphone plan but still want Droid. Also do you know if WiFi hotspot tethering works using Quick Settings? These will determine if I will buy it or not, thanks!

This goes for anyone who owns a Chinavasion Eclipse Dual Sim.
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Hello, I have been following this forum thread quite closely. A lot of the technical 'stuff' that is talked about is beyond me but it would appear that overall, the Gigabyte GSmart G1310 is the way to go as far as a dual sim smartphone is concerned. I'd have thought this phone to have been released by now, but it doesn't seem so. Does anyone know when this phone is going on the market?

My other question is; is the battery life halved on a dual sim phone having to search for two network providers as oppose to the common single sim card, searching for only one network? A lot of the smartphones out today with a single sim have a really short battery life anyway and by having it halved for dual sim capability is not an ideal scenario. I don't know if I'm asking too much but it would be great to have a phone that could last at least a few days without having to be re-charged.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has an opinion/information on this.
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According to specifications, the best Android dual-sim announced is the ViewSonic V350. The GSmart G1310 should be launched in June, some stores have it for preorder already for a couple of weeks. The ViewSonic should be available by end of June / beginning of July.

According to battery life, of course it is shorter on dual sim phones. But it is not a half. There are other parts of the phone shich consume power too (CPU, GPS, BT etc.) I have a GSmart S1205 (a WM dual sim) which lasts about 3-4 days. I would expect these dual sim Android phones to last about 2-3 days. Of course by playing games or surfing the web the battery will be empty within a few hours.
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I have found a new phone that fullfills everybody´s wishes (I think)

It's a Android 2.2 phone, Dual SIM of course but but SIM's are 3G compatible. It has the simular hardware like the V350 but looks much better, better screen resolution, capacitive screen. The rest is like a the other Android DUAL SIM phone's.

The phone is available from Etowalk, it's the HOT HD958 for 399,- dollar. You can get a discount code of 5 dollar from Eten-Users DX900 forum for the Etowalk site.

Brand / Model
HOT HD958
CPU
Qualcomm MSM7227 600MHz
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Android V2.2 ( will be upgrade to V2.3 in the nearest future )
English, German, Russian, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, others please ask
(Please advice us your favorite language upon order confrmation)
Memory
RAM : 512+64 MB / ROM : 512 MB
2G Micro SD Memory Card (TF-Card)
MAX support 16GB
Size
118 x 61 x 12.8 mm
Weight
147 g
Screen
3.8 inch WVGA, 480 x 800, Super AMOLED / Capacitive Touch Screen
Network
Dual Sim Dual Standby, Support W+W, W+G, G+G
WCDMA/HSDPA : 900/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE : 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml
Support GSM service all over the world
Color
Black
GPS
Built In SiRF III GPS
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We have maps for the following countries, please ask seller if you need additional information:
Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Spain, Portugal, UK, Ireland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherland, France, Greece, Italy, Poland, Russia, Baltic, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway
Connection
Bluetooth 2.0 (with EDR & A2DP)
Wi-Fi : IEEE 802.11 b/g
micro USB 2.0
Camera
Back 5.0 mega pixel / Auto Focus
Front 0.3 mega pixel
Support to shoot MP4 480P with sound, time depends on storage.
Sensor
Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor
Radio
FM
Video
AVI , MP4 , FLV , 3GP , MOV , ASF , MPEG , etc.
Audio
MP3 , AAC , etc. / 3.5 mm Audio Jack
Special function
G-sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor, FM Radio, Dual Sim, Multi-touch, Auto Focus
Package Includes
- Li-ion Batteries 1350mAh x 2
- Earphone / 3.5 mm Audio Jack
- USB Cable
- 2G Micro SD (TF) Memory Card
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I also just discovered this phone yesterday. The price is quite high, but it's probably the best dual-sim phone you can get today.

I would be very interested in a short review from people who purchased it.
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I would be very interested in a short review from people who purchased it.
That's the key right there. It's impossible the separate the cream from the crop on generic Chinese phones. They tend to fall apart after a year, so you need a review from someone who has had one for 18 months.

The issues:

No mfr warranty, so even if your credit card doubles the warranty, it's still nothing.

Memory expansion is capped at 16GB, which seems odd for a phone that seems up to date on everything else. It suggests that maybe it has a bogus cpu.
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Post by Press on Eten-Users.eu forum DX900:

Have a look here!!!

Dual SIM dual standby (UMTS-CDMA/GSM);
1GHz Dual Core Tegra 2 processor;
Android 2.3 "Gingerbread";
4 inch sreen;

That's THE Phone!

Hi from Italy


It looks indeed as a very interresting phone except the price of expected 800 dollar.
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Behold it is the king of dual SIM phones.

It is DUAL-ANYTHING!

Dual SIM
Dual Core
Dual Mode (CDMA & GSM)

Motorola XT882 Android phone comes to China, the king of dual - GSMArena.com news

And it got Gingerbread too. The Motorola XT882 puts to shame the Atrix and the Droid X2 which is still at Froyo. Heck, first Tegra2 phone in the world to be Gingerbread.

The dual mode has other implications, since its not hard to see how, with some modifications, for Motorola to offer this phone to Verizon and Sprint.
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I'm also looking for the same phone as you guys, the Motorolla looks the best so far but really can't believe that HTC, with all it's innovation, haven't released one.

I understand people's comments on carriers not wanting to sell a dual sim phone but surely they must realise some people just have 2 sims, one for work and one for personal.

Fingers crossed the Moto is good and makes it across here
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Hm, but the information on GSM-Arena is
"it has dual mode GSM/CDMA network support and yes, the two network radios are operational simultaneously".

This sounds to me like one GSM and one CDMA radio, but not 2 GSMs as most of us want to see.
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This sounds to me like one GSM and one CDMA radio, but not 2 GSMs as most of us want to see.
I'm afraid you're right. Unfortunately GSM+CDMA is no option for me. I need dual GSM cards.
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If this phone is going to China, then it should work all three ways, GSM + GSM, CDMA + CDMA and GSM + CDMA.
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