Rooting the Droid without rsd lite up to and including FRG83D - Page 6

teddyearp · March 25th, 2011, 10:35 AM

Well, you have found the way to unroot without RSD Lite, it is pretty much what I have here:

Unroot your Droid WITHOUT RSD Lite

As far as step 22, what that does is rename (via a move "mv" command) the script file that will check and make sure you have stock recovery on every boot, thus disabling it. Enabling it would be to rename it back to the original, not changing the new extension to enable.

Now as far as unrooting with a few commands, well that could get tricky. As you know, the file that gives us root is the 'su' binary with the corresponding setting of it's permissions to 6755 (or 4755 in this guide). We now have unfettered root access. When we put the Superuser.apk file in /system/app it's function is to check each time an app calls for 'su' and then prompts us if we want to allow it or not. Without Superuser.apk any app could request 'su' and we'd never know. The busybox binary adds more shortcuts/commands to our system which many if not most root apps rely upon being in place to function.

So with all that in mind, in _theory_ you _might_ be able to unroot via these commands (DO NOT TRY THIS!!):

Code:

su
mount -o remount,rw /dev/nul /system
rm /system/bin/busybox
rm /system/app/Superuser.apk
rm /system/bin/su
reboot

However I am sure the second to last command would fail since you are using the 'su' binary and I doubt it would be allowed to be deleted while in use. AND THIS WOULD LEAVE YOUR PHONE OPEN TO ANY APP TO CALL SU WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE.

CegAbq · March 25th, 2011, 10:42 PM

So - I think I've seen a couple of posts here that you have been able to use this method even after you have gotten the 83G OTA update. Have I read that right?

Cause I think I'm ready to take the plunge if it will work.

kitcostantino · March 26th, 2011, 08:19 AM

[QUOTE=teddyearp;2478400]Well, you have found the way to unroot without RSD Lite, it is pretty much what I have here:

Unroot your Droid WITHOUT RSD Lite

thank you. I just wanted a confirmation that it, in fact should work again.
I'm about to root the new update so
VVVVV
Ill post back here when im done. But yes, a couple of people have said they rooted frg83g

Quote:

Originally Posted by CegAbq

So - I think I've seen a couple of posts here that you have been able to use this method even after you have gotten the 83G OTA update. Have I read that right?

Cause I think I'm ready to take the plunge if it will work.

djembeman · March 27th, 2011, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crankerchick

Thanks I just used this to root my frg22. So I'm ready to start doing some ROMs which I'll read up on but I just have 1 question to make sure I understand. Since I did not backup anything before rooting, a backup that I make now (I'll be sure to make before doing any ROMs) will be a backup of my rooted phone, correct? Doesn't seem to be a big deal, but just want to make sure I understand.

Also, if I did ever want to get back to frg22 not rooted, would that be possible?

OMJ's response
[QUOTE]absolutely....you can either use an sbf file or flashingthis http://android.clie a5e329b00288.signed-voles-ota-50454.zip like you would a rom there is no way to make a backup of your system before its rooted...[QUOTE]

I still use the file that I downloaded from this link to return to stock. Once reactivate my phone I am prompted to do the OTA updates until my phone is current.

OMJ, do you still have this file or a new file (update.zip)) to revert you to stock? It would seem that this is a lot simpler than how people are trying to go back to stock. I don't know how to post the update.zip file myself.

Update: Okay, Teddy I see your link on your page with the frg83g ota update.zip. guess I'll use that the next time I need to un-root. And I appologize Teddy, I saw all the talk about using commands to un-root and didn't follow your link with detailed directions on how to flash an update.zip

www.peteralfonso.com/p/downloads.html

djembeman · March 27th, 2011, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerjay08

I was just pushed the FRG83G update and have confirmed that this method works for rooting it also on my Droid 1. Awesome!

Same here. It works great!! I am one of those people who un-rooted in order to get FRG83G. I got sick of problems with custom ROMs so I guess I have to go through this every time there is an update.

I am going to try the latest release from Pete Alfonso for Gingerbread though. It's intriguing!

mrterry · March 28th, 2011, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djembeman

Same here. It works great!! I am one of those people who un-rooted in order to get FRG83G. I got sick of problems with custom ROMs so I guess I have to go through this every time there is an update.

I am going to try the latest release from Pete Alfonso for Gingerbread though. It's intriguing!

If you really like the 'stock' layout but want to have a faster phone, then Pete's is clearly the way to go. His Gingerbread runs like a champ on the Droid, and it's kept me from buying a Thunderbolt- I can wait for the Bionic and it's tegra2 processor now. I might just have to abandon the Droid in favor of some dual-core love when it finally drops, though.

kitcostantino · March 29th, 2011, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djembeman

Same here. It works great!! I am one of those people who un-rooted in order to get FRG83G. I got sick of problems with custom ROMs so I guess I have to go through this every time there is an update.

I am going to try the latest release from Pete Alfonso for Gingerbread though. It's intriguing!

I unrooted using the over the air update, installed Pete Alfonsos gpa 14,
and installed his custom kernels. i started with the 1G kernel and have been trying all the others. it all works flawlessly. Pete Alfonso is a perfectionist genius. WORKS PERFECTLY ON FRG83G

programmer71 · March 29th, 2011, 10:10 PM

I'm on step 13. Instructions say "you should now see a # instead of a $", but I am still seeing the $. Should I continue anyway? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

programmer71 · March 30th, 2011, 01:29 PM

went through steps 1-13 two more times - on second try the # popped up.

josh99ta · April 15th, 2011, 12:52 PM

UPDATE: I'm on step 11 now and it doesn't seem to be doing anything. As soon as I hit enter it returns me to a "$" prompt. When I type in adb devices it tells me permission denied. Where do I go from here?

rickbb · April 20th, 2011, 10:32 AM

antivirus reports the mediafire link to rage is infected, is there a different link to download or is this a false message?

skilaufen · April 20th, 2011, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickbb

antivirus reports the mediafire link to rage is infected, is there a different link to download or is this a false message?

Welcome to the forums,

rageagainstthecage will set off some virus scanners as it uses an exploit to get root. The difference is the exploit is intentional as is your use of it. As long as you trust the source you download from you should be fine.

My desktop computer's virus scanner also considers it a virus when I run a scan.

rickbb · April 28th, 2011, 04:30 PM

All is well, rooted and using as a WiFi hot spot. Working the way it's supposed to.

Thanks to all here.

skilaufen · April 29th, 2011, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickbb

All is well, rooted and using as a WiFi hot spot. Working the way it's supposed to.

Thanks to all here.

Great to hear and glad we could help. Enjoy.

teabling · May 18th, 2011, 07:01 PM

i just have to say that this was the easiest root walk through i found for droids on 2.2. one of the best things about it is that i dont have to install a rooted ROM for it to work. i did have some issues with the command to disable the recovery, but im not worried in the least not wanting to install custom ROMs or kernels anyway. i just wanted a simple stock OS root. Thank you thank you thank you for being great.

P.S. i registered just so i could post to this thread.
you sir will have my gratitude for a very long time.

Teabling

skilaufen · May 18th, 2011, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teabling

i just have to say that this was the easiest root walk through i found for droids on 2.2. one of the best things about it is that i dont have to install a rooted ROM for it to work. i did have some issues with the command to disable the recovery, but im not worried in the least not wanting to install custom ROMs or kernels anyway. i just wanted a simple stock OS root. Thank you thank you thank you for being great.

P.S. i registered just so i could post to this thread.
you sir will have my gratitude for a very long time.

Teabling

Welcome to the forums and glad everything worked well for ya.

ptrsdwski · June 16th, 2011, 06:21 PM

Hey, will this work on the original droid? I got up to about step 12 or so, and now my device doesn't come up when I enter "adb devices". I've double checked, and I do have the android folder, then the tools folder selected. I'm not sure what happened.

djembeman · June 16th, 2011, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptrsdwski

Hey, will this work on the original droid? I got up to about step 12 or so, and now my device doesn't come up when I enter "adb devices". I've double checked, and I do have the android folder, then the tools folder selected. I'm not sure what happened.

This is for the Original Droid.

Joon525 · July 5th, 2011, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh99ta

UPDATE: I'm on step 11 now and it doesn't seem to be doing anything. As soon as I hit enter it returns me to a "$" prompt. When I type in adb devices it tells me permission denied. Where do I go from here?

Any help on this? I'm hitting the same road block.

Ajak · July 17th, 2011, 02:20 AM

Will this process work for 2.2.2 build FRG83G ? Hoping to root my phone with in the next 30mins. Thanks

Edit: Got everything worked out and it appears to have worked

kratos · July 17th, 2011, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajak

Will this process work for 2.2.2 build FRG83G ? Hoping to root my phone with in the next 30mins. Thanks

Edit: Got everything worked out and it appears to have worked

For anyone else wondering about the same thing, this method does work the the most current 2.2.2 FRG83G version of Android.

Ajak- Glad to hear you got everything worked out and are not rooted! If you need any help or suggestions, let us know. We are here to help!

Kratos

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dinostabomg · August 16th, 2011, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh99ta

UPDATE: I'm on step 11 now and it doesn't seem to be doing anything. As soon as I hit enter it returns me to a "$" prompt. When I type in adb devices it tells me permission denied. Where do I go from here?

Same here. I took the liberty of running ls -l and got this:

Code:

ls -l
-rwxr-xr-x shell    shell        5392 2011-08-16 23:30 rageagainstth
in
-rw-rw-rw- shell    shell      115962 1970-01-16 17:36 PdaNet.apk

Which seems to be right, I think? I think that corresponds to 0755. But anyway, I exited and ran adb shell again, and I still get $ instead of #

EDIT: Actually I think I figured it out. If you are having this problem, make EXTRA SURE you ran step 11, that is the part that runs the script that actually gives you root access! Don't know how I missed it, but check again.

teddyearp · August 17th, 2011, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinostabomg

EDIT: Actually I think I figured it out. If you are having this problem, make EXTRA SURE you ran step 11, that is the part that runs the script that actually gives you root access! Don't know how I missed it, but check again.

Brilliant deduction Watson! Yes, if step 11 is not allowed to finish properly, everything else is moot; you must run it again.

campersand · August 18th, 2011, 08:00 PM

I'm having trouble downloading rageagainstthecage. I've tried with Firefox, Chrome and IE and I get error messages each time.

EDIT: Never mind, had to disable my antivirus software.

NYCHitman1 · September 19th, 2011, 05:12 PM

I keep getting an error when extracting the rageagainstthecage file. Anyone have a mirror?

teddyearp · September 19th, 2011, 09:21 PM

An error. Please elaborate. My car won't start, can you fix it?

Grey1001 · September 20th, 2011, 05:11 PM

lol

industrialight · December 13th, 2011, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adidas77

For some reason I am still seeing a $ when it should be a #. I am working with a droid 1 and windows 7 on my mac under parallels, but I dont think that should matter bc I have already connected and done the beginning steps. I am currently restarting my phone a couple times as many people have said that helps somehow?

I am having the same issue, no #, Still $ - Working with a Droid1 but build number: FRK76, is this my issue?

Running Ubuntu Linux and ADB in the terminal.

Thanks in advance for any help

PsYCoNUTS · December 18th, 2011, 08:37 PM

It work for me android 2.2.3.

hlsilver · January 9th, 2012, 09:06 PM

Hate to necro-bump but trying to use this on an OG Droid I picked up today and when I get to step 8 (running adb shell) after I hit enter it returns to the next line and nothing happens, however I can not type anything and have to close the command prompt and reopen and redo the steps, but the same things keeps happening. Any help?

johnlgalt · January 9th, 2012, 09:41 PM

Could you click on the links provided and verify they are what you are doing? b/c teddy's link points to his write up which does not have a step 8 anywhere.....

teddyearp · January 10th, 2012, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlsilver

Hate to necro-bump but trying to use this on an OG Droid I picked up today and when I get to step 8 (running adb shell) after I hit enter it returns to the next line and nothing happens, however I can not type anything and have to close the command prompt and reopen and redo the steps, but the same things keeps happening. Any help?

Did you make sure you enabled usb debugging? menu -> settings -> applications -> developement -> usb debugging checked

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnlgalt

Could you click on the links provided and verify they are what you are doing? b/c teddy's link points to his write up which does not have a step 8 anywhere.....

?? Which writeup of mine are you looking at? The one of mine that mirrors this one has the same step 8

Code:

adb shell

though mine does continue to include installing busybox but that's further down the command list.

johnlgalt · January 10th, 2012, 09:24 PM

The one here: Unroot your Droid WITHOUT RSD Lite

(tried to use quotation but it didn't bring over the numbering for the steps....)

teddyearp · January 11th, 2012, 04:45 PM

Oh. That's my unrooting guide.

I would have posted the link to my guide similar to this one, but my silly router doesn't let me access my site from this computer.

daveola · January 17th, 2012, 11:26 AM

The original directions given at the top of this thread are not completely safe as they use specific /dev locations that may change from Samsung Mini to Samsung Mini.

I've written up the directions with some clarifications as well as an easy and safe way to extract the unlock code (which will work on Linux/Windows/OSX) and put it up on my site.

Unfortunately as a new user I can't specify links in my post, but you can find it by googling "davesource.com solutions" -it's posted as the solution for 2012-01-10. Perhaps someone with the ability to post links can post it for me?

teddyearp · January 18th, 2012, 02:02 PM

Well, since this write up has nothing to do with the Samsung mini and only the Motorola A855 your post here is out of place. Maybe try posting your write-up in the proper section of this site.

good luck

NUNNYA · January 26th, 2012, 10:13 PM

SO CONFUSED!!!!! I'm really new at this and would love to root my phone to get custom Roms and remove all the useless preinstalled apps but its just to much for me, I can't do it. I know nothing about computers and finally give up.Glad it works for you guys though.

teddyearp · January 27th, 2012, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NUNNYA

<snip>I know nothing about computers and <snip>

Well, you started a thread two days ago asking for help and now have given up. I mean no offence, but since your phone is basically a computer, some knowledge of computers and file structures and commands are kind of required.

The method in this thread will work, I have some guides as well.

Curious, though, in the other thread you first said you don't have a computer, then you said you do but no internet access. This forum is on the internet, how are you accessing it?

NUNNYA · January 27th, 2012, 02:31 PM

Well Teddy I do have a computer it's a windows XP from the stone age that has no internet access. The only internet I have is on my Droid and am using that to be on this forum and anything else internet related.I have given up because like I said I don't understand the " simple " instructions on how to use this root or any other for that matter. Some ppl just shouldn't try to do something like this having no knowledge of computers, files, or programs, me being one of them. I would still really love to root my phone, I hate being restricted, I just thought I woulde understand after reading up on it , but no luck. I love this forum though, it really is amazing how far ppl will go to help one another. Thanks so much for your reply and trying to help but my brain just doesn't work that way I guess.

RandyF · February 18th, 2012, 11:54 PM

Nunnya, don't give up!!! If you read each and every line of the instructions, and read these links as well:

Custom Recovery Image - Simple Noob Guide - MyDroidWorld

(Follow and read ALL of the links there)

Guide to Rooting 2.2 for Windows and Linux

...you SHOULD be able to successfully root your phone. It was easiest for me using my linux machine, though, from the Terminal. RSD Lite is definately your friend!! Good luck, and don't give up, brotha! I've rooted my OG Droid, and it's running so well (on the latest stable CyanogenMod) that my wife's using it to this day!

teddyearp · February 20th, 2012, 10:23 AM

RandyF, nunnya alsready started a new thread and is now rooted.

RandyF · February 20th, 2012, 03:40 PM

Great to hear! as we all know, with the right tweaking, these phones are still competitive/functional...

NUNNYA · February 21st, 2012, 11:16 AM

Yup finally got my Droid rooted with soc 1.7 with really no problems, it got stuck in a loop that I was able to fix with a helpful post. Thanks for everyone's help.
Now I'm trying to help root my boyfriends Breakout,doesn't seem as easy lol. We've tried a few different methods that seem to get stuck at one point or another and wont finish. I've talked to ppl that tried to help but still no luck.....

dizz1s4u · April 21st, 2012, 11:23 PM

OK. I successfully rooted my Huawei u9000 - 81 using the info listed. Unfortunately, I had a screen issue (not related to rooting) and took it back to my carrier. They replaced my phone with an identical phone, however this time they upgraded me to version 2.3.4 and now every time i get to step 11 it runs (or so I think it does) and kicks me back to my "C:\android-sdk\platform-tools>" folder. I complete the adb-killserver and adb devices command but get the following:
cd /data/local/tmp
$ ./rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin
./rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin[*] CVE-2010-EASY Android local root exploit (C) 2010 by 743C
[*] checking NPROC limit ...
[+] RLIMIT_NPROC={2793, 2793}[*] Searching for adb ...
[+] Found adb as PID 7937[*] Spawning children. Dont type anything and wait for reset![*][*] If you like what we are doing you can send us PayPal money to[*] 7-4-3-C@web.de so we can compensate time, effort and HW costs.[*] If you are a company and feel like you profit from our work,[*] we also accept donations > 1000 USD![*][*] adb connection will be reset. restart adb server on desktop and re-login.
$
C:\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb kill-server

C:\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb devices
* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *
* daemon started successfully *
List of devices attached

After about 10 minutes or so, my phone resets the connection and then I can get the list to show my device connected again. Same phone which was rooted on version 2.2 something now isn't working on 2.3.4.

As you can see...it wont list my device after running the rage file. I am stuck and want my root back...any help would be awesome.

johnlgalt · April 22nd, 2012, 11:34 AM

In the settings, did you make sure that USB debugging is enabled?

Trollsmeesh · May 20th, 2012, 08:04 PM

Hey all, new to the forums and so far I am finding everything I need to try and re-purpose an old phone (and maybe upgrading my newer one if this works out).

Anyway, I have installed everything that I needed and followed all the steps to the t, but I am finding myself having issues with step 10.) chmod 0755 rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin.

When I enter this in it says "Unable to chmod rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin: No such file or directory. I clearly have it in the folder, but for some reason I keep running into this issue. I tried restarting the whole process and I still get this issue.

Please help!

Trollsmeesh · May 20th, 2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollsmeesh

Hey all, new to the forums and so far I am finding everything I need to try and re-purpose an old phone (and maybe upgrading my newer one if this works out).

Anyway, I have installed everything that I needed and followed all the steps to the t, but I am finding myself having issues with step 10.) chmod 0755 rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin.

When I enter this in it says "Unable to chmod rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin: No such file or directory. I clearly have it in the folder, but for some reason I keep running into this issue. I tried restarting the whole process and I still get this issue.

Please help!

Never mind, I figured it out finally. Rookie mistake. lol Thanks for the easy tutorial!

(Basically, the issue was a type that I continued to do over and over again. lawl)

ms211994 · May 23rd, 2012, 11:52 AM

adb push c:\droidroot\su /system/bin
I get the error: Failed to copy c:\droidroot\su to /system/bin/su Read only file system.

I've seen this question asked 2 times in the forum, but haven't seen a reply. Is there a way to change the permissions of the /system/bin directory from r to r/w?

Or is the FRK76 Build my problem?

teddyearp · May 24th, 2012, 10:13 AM

Look three steps above your command to step 14:

Quote:

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system

But make sure you do #13 and #15 as well, in order.

good luck

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