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Old November 11th, 2009, 10:47 PM   #151 (permalink)
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These settings are no good. It produces horizontal bars at the top and bottom.
The settings used will change based on the format of the video you are trying to convert. There is no one size fits all setting for these things.

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Mine displays in full screen, no bars here. Same quality and display as the link someone above posted to download a sample mp4.
I think it depends on the media. If it's cinematic, Handbrake will preserve that aspect ratio. The Droid's display is 16:9, but lots of movies are 21:9, hence the bars on top and bottom.

By the way, your settings have a 320x176 output resolution. My sample video is 848x480. In other words, there is no comparison in quality.

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This sample uses almost the full resolution of the Droid. It's definitely overkill for some video sources, but it's really nice if you have an HD source.
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These settings are no good. It produces horizontal bars at the top and bottom.
you're kidding, right?

It's because the ASPECT RATIO of video is DIFFERENT than that of the screen.

As long as it fills width, you should be happy, unless you prefer distorted proportions.
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Trying the Motorola Media Link program now. Wow, I thought iTunes sucked. It's like a stripped down even clunkier version.

My only hope is that it produces an acceptable video conversion with no sound issues, but even if i does, Handbrake might still be easier to use if I can find optimum settings. Just discovered that the test file I had been using had sound sync issues BEFORE conversion, so no wonder the resulting file did!
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There really should be a video player built into the phone. That is a bit odd, really.
On my DROID, I use the Gallery app, played my mp4 beautifully...
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Hey everyone, I think I found some great settings to convert with (for Handbrake):

I'm not sure about ripping straight from a DVD, but when you have a file (mine are 720/1080p .MKVs in 16:9), you can use these following settings:

Easy way: Select iPod legacy, change width to 848 (should turn box green automatically)

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848x480 resolution, H.264 codec, 1500kbps avg bitrate, AAC 48KHz 160Kbps


Here's a sample I made yesterday, watch it on your Droid and your eyes will be pleased!

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It takes me ~45min to convert a full length movie with these settings. This is with a Ph. II X4 940 quad core at 3.7GHz. My guess is that if you have a quad core it will take roughly an hour, dual core, perhaps 2.

Let me know if these settings work for you!
I use VIO (piratebay.org), set my output file to the screen resolution (480x854), amd let her rip!

My 'file' plays great! You can also set quality, volume, and output filename...

Give it a try, and let me know what you think.
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This sample uses almost the full resolution of the Droid. It's definitely overkill for some video sources, but it's really nice if you have an HD source.
So there is no point in putting a larger number in the width than the original files value, right? My original is 640x272.

I am trying a run now with your values, except for the 640, which I left in.

BTW, A previous try with iPhone Legacy resulted in sound, no video.

edit: also, your sample is great!
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report on my video conversion using Moto Media Link:
resulted in a picture about half the Droid screen size with a frame around entire picture.

Not sure if it had something to do with the size of original or not. going back to play with Handbrake. Running one now with Fabolous setting except left width at originals value,640.
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I use VIO (piratebay.org), set my output file to the screen resolution (480x854), amd let her rip!

My 'file' plays great! You can also set quality, volume, and output filename...

Give it a try, and let me know what you think.
So I downloaded VIO and got it all set up and ready to encode.

Once it started, I had a horrible realization. The program is not multi-threaded. What a joke. In this day and age, all programs, especially, especially encoding programs have to be multithreaded.

So I canceled the encoding. I'll stick to Handbrake as it is 4x faster
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report on Handbrake run which took a 716Mb file and resulted in 1.2gb file, hmmm. Used Fabo's HB iPod Legacy settings except for width which I left at originals 640.

The good news is the quality and sound sync seems fine (checked in a few spots, made easy by act1 video player.

What is the smallest width setting that will fill the Droid screen?
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I just discovered that in act1 player there is a preference for ZOOM/video display, that is ASPECT (uses full width or height without distortion) and it is the default (i think).

so just did half (cd1 of 2;hate that) of a movie with Handbrake using iPod Legacy presets which used 640 for width.
The GOOD news is the sound sync seems fine and the picture is nice. But if I turn the zoom OFF the picture is about HALF of the sreen. Not sure it is worth trying to find size that would fill screen (width) without zoom as it would probably just be upconverting and maybe a waste.

I guess Fabo's 848 (is that right?) value is more useful when starting with a larger file (1080/720p).
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will someone please tell me how to get sound for my videos or a program that i can use to get sound to get them to play on my DROID i have them on the sd card and they play just no sound... i would appreciate it if someone would tell me a program to use wether from the market place or from the net. thanks
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@fabolous
This is interesting:
Just ran a test w/your 848 settings and the file fills the Droid screen with zoom OFF and the file is slightly smaller than the input file.

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did you try some of the stuff in this thread?
is your volume up? (wouldn't it be nice if that was it?)
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Easy way: Select iPod legacy, change width to 848 (should turn box green automatically)

Exact Settings:

848x480 resolution, H.264 codec, 1500kbps avg bitrate, AAC 48KHz 160Kbps

Let me know if these settings work for you!
Used these settings in Handbrake as suggested by Fabolous and it worked perfectly. I used 848 (w) and left blank (h) (anamorphic set to "none"), video bitrate was kept at 1500, which seems low to me, but looks great on screen. I am sure this helps to keep the file size down. I ripped a 16+G 1080p mkv file down to a 1.9 megs m4v/mp4 file. <-- that's awesome!

The audio was set to: AAC Stereo 48kHz @ 160 Kbps. This setting sync'd perfectly with the picture.

I will experiment with different screen settings based on input ratios (you can only do this is if the anamorphic setting is set to "loose") to cure slight ratio distortion. I have a feeling the native resolution of the Droid screen is not 848x480. Ever noticed the "Motorola" logo on bootup is not perfectly round? This explains some aspect ratio discrepencies.
I also want to try better sound compression (less compression).

Tip: For faster re-encoding, go into the preference menu of Handbrake and set the CLI to use all your cores (4 for me) and set CPU priority to "normal" if you want to multi task and higher if you let it run by itself. My 16G to 2G conversion took 1h10m on "normal"; much faster with smaller source.
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Gonna have to agree. I have also used Fabolous's settings and the picture on my Droid is fantastic. Deep rich colors. People I show the videos to are absolutely dumbfounded that a phone could look so good. Thanks for the settings.
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Hi, you're actually upconverting that 700MB .avi file, and that's why it's taking so long. The settings I shared are for high quality video, so we're talking about .MKV or other HD files at 720/1080p anywhere from 4-10GB in size.

For 700MB .avi files, just take a look at the properties of your video, and convert using the same width as the actual file itself. This should cut down on the time it takes to convert considerably, and there will be no loss in quality vs. the higher settings (as the video didn't have the quality there to begin with).

This should scale down your conversion time by half (at least), I think.

Which brings me to a point:

There are no definitive settings for converting your videos. You should change them dynamically, dependent upon the quality of your original video, and how good you want it to look on your Droid.

There are quite a few good suggestions being made in this thread, and at different quality levels. But a good rule of thumb is to not encode your video at a higher resolution than the original, you're just wasting space.
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I can't get it to work. I followed the instructions to the letter with a .wmv video but it won't play on any video player on my PC, it seems to think it's a sound file.
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You are missing the codecs is my guess. Try getting K-Lite codecs:
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I can't get it to work. I followed the instructions to the letter with a .wmv video but it won't play on any video player on my PC, it seems to think it's a sound file.
Are you using handbrake?
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here's the error I get...

[15:29:18] + E:\Danny Anim Reels\Show FRI\Animation\00 The Incredible Hulk.wmv
[15:29:18] + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 1
[15:29:18] + container: asf
[15:29:18] + data rate: 7664 kbps
[15:29:18] * destination
[15:29:18] + C:\Documents and Settings\danny\Desktop\Hulk.mp4
[15:29:18] + container: MPEG-4 (.mp4 and .m4v)
[15:29:18] + chapter markers
[15:29:18] * video track
[15:29:18] + decoder: wmv3
[15:29:18] + bitrate 10000 kbps
[15:29:18] + frame rate: same as source (around 29.970 fps)
[15:29:18] + dimensions: 1000 * 562 -> 848 * 480, crop 0/0/0/0
[15:29:18] + encoder: x264
[15:29:18] + options: level=30:cabac=0:ref=2:mixed-refs=1:analyse=all:me=umh:no-fast-pskip=1
[15:29:18] + quality: 0.59
[15:29:18] * audio track 0
[15:29:18] + decoder: Unknown (WMAV2) (track 1, id 0)
[15:29:18] + mixdown: Stereo
[15:29:18] + encoder: faac
[15:29:18] + bitrate: 128 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[15:29:18] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
[15:29:18] encx264: keyint-min: 30, keyint-max: 300
[15:29:18] encx264: Encoding at constant RF 20.910001
x264 [warning]: MB rate (47652) > level limit (40500)
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile Baseline, level 3.0
[15:29:18] reader: first SCR 270000
28 [unknown (0x51C)] HandBrakeCLI 3992 _cygtls::handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION
3006 [unknown (0x51C)] HandBrakeCLI 3992 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to HandBrakeCLI.exe.stackdump
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Are you running the latest version of handbrake?
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Also, I tried it on an AVI, and it doesn't crash, but it still only delivers audio, no video. Please help!
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Alright, just found out going from wmv to h.264 is broken in the stable release of handbrake. try this version of handbrake:
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Also, I tried it on an AVI, and it doesn't crash, but it still only delivers audio, no video. Please help!
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You are missing the codecs is my guess. Try getting K-Lite codecs:
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btw, i'm running 0.9.3 and I did download those codecs. It was FFDshow.

I'm trying to download that version of handbrake, do I get the GUI, or the CLI, or both? Why do they do that?
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So the codecs didn't fix the problem with the avi file? just get the GUI
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ok, getting there. Now with downloading that version I can do .wmv. Worked perfect. But converting avi files still gives me just the sound. Any other ideas?
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What instructions are you following?
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the one's posted at the beginning of this thread.
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Hmm, all my movies are avi's so I'm not sure what else would be causing it. Are you trying to play the converted video on your pc or your droid?
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tried both. The wmv converted and works on both, but the avi never encodes. You can tell cause the CMD window just hangs on encoding and never shows the percentage complete changing like it did when I converted the wmv. I used exact same settings for both, just changed the source and the output file name. I've tried several avis all to the same result. Maybe a different codec? When I downloaded the one you recommended, it took me to FFDShow, correct?
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tried both. The wmv converted and works on both, but the avi never encodes. You can tell cause the CMD window just hangs on encoding and never shows the percentage complete changing like it did when I converted the wmv. I used exact same settings for both, just changed the source and the output file name. I've tried several avis all to the same result. Maybe a different codec? When I downloaded the one you recommended, it took me to FFDShow, correct?
The codecs I told you to get were for playback puropses. For converting you should still use the h.264
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I just tried a free AVI to MP4 converter from Doremisoft and it worked perfect. Only bummer is I can't resize with that software, but that should rule out codec issues. I think Handbrake is probably just weak.
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Yea that's what the codec is set for in HandBrake "H.264". Oh well. I really appreciate the help JB4times4. Thanks! At least I can do WMVs now.
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hmm, glad you got it.
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I just tried a free AVI to MP4 converter from Doremisoft and it worked perfect. Only bummer is I can't resize with that software, but that should rule out codec issues. I think Handbrake is probably just weak.
Hrm, I'm a bit perplexed at your problems. Let me try an avi though. I can't believe that Handbrake can handle HD quality H.264 and not a simple avi.

I'll get back when the conversion is done.
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I have had no problems with avi's so thats why I'm out of ideas as well.
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weird. Maybe it has something to do with the codec I used when making the avis. I tried a different AVI I downloaded and it worked. Seems like HandBrake is picky.
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All mine are either xvid or divx. What was the one that didn't work and did work?
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I don't understand the lack of some basic features on this platform. There should either be a synch app or better native support.

I love my Droid but I'm also a nerd. Until you can hand this phone to my mother and have her able to play a video THAT'S ALREADY ON THE PHONE don't expect her to figure out how to copy a movie to it. And my mom has Facebook and Twitter!

In some ways this is like an over-engineered German car. It's got a great engine but poor cupholders.

The nerd market is obviously very strong with the sales estimates, but corporate will be shy due to stuff like poor Exchange support and the basic consumer won't buy it or will return it in frustration.

I'm betting this phone will have a high return rate which is too bad.

Google needs to add some cup holders to make it easier for the average Joe.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 05:50 PM   #191 (permalink)
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The one that didn't work was cinepak. Which was also compressed about 6 years ago. I don't have the vid anymore that did work.
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Yeah, so no problems here with .AVI. It actually turned out quite good

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It maybe a codec issue. I've always been a big fan of CCCP. Maybe you should give that a try over the K-lite.

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well something that old is most likely not going to have support anymore.
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one more... is there a way to access the video player on the droid without having to load the camera, than switch to vid, then hit the picture icon, then hit... then hit...
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Go into the gallery.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 06:36 PM   #196 (permalink)
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Go into the gallery.
Better yet, download Astro.

You can skip the thumbnail loading, and if you have a lot of videos that you can't recognize by thumbnail preview, you can actually see the file names
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Better yet, download Astro.

You can skip the thumbnail loading, and if you have a lot of videos that you can't recognize by thumbnail preview, you can actually see the file names
I use video player. it's as basic as it gets, which for me is a good thing.
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Ah, the gallery works good. Anyone know how to turn off the gui that pops up over the video every time you load one?

Astro is cool, but I like the thumbs, and it's less driving through folders to get to where I want.

I tried Act1 video player but it was choppier than droids default player.
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Anyone know how to turn off the gui that pops up over the video every time you load one?
Just tap the video once.
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was hoping to change a preference, though that helps. Thanks Fab!
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