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Old November 23rd, 2009, 09:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have setup all my pop3 accounts through Gmail. The advantages are:

1) All your mail in one spot with small email tags identifying what account they are from.

2) Signatures for your outgoing mail with the Gmail app.

3) You can file all your emails by labels (folders).

4) You can search all your mail.

5) You can filter your mail so it goes directly in the labels (folders).

6) If you have an attachment in an email, you can save a bookmark for the Gmail website on your home screen and you can go there and download the attachment to your Droid. Works great!

7) At all times you have access to all email on the Gmail website mirrored on your droid.

8) You can also accept appointments created with Outlook through the web side app accessible from your phone.

All the functionality of a Blackberry with better website functionality. I am really starting to get the functionality Google meant in the Droid!

Update: I have found that forwarding mail to the Gmail account results in faster syncs. You can do this from your pop3 server.

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Mail Fetcher?

Nice find for getting pop3 accounts to work on the better mail app.

But for me, its enough that google knows my telephone number, location 24/7, contacts' names/numbers/addresses, my browsing and online shopping habits, files on my phone, and lord knows what else, without them having my email sitting on their servers.
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Here is Google's privacy policy:

About Gmail

I do not think they want the wrath of millions by violating it!
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Just think about those "Industry Standards" and "Common Sense" blanket exceptions to privacy.

I can't help but wonder how directly related "blind trust in corporations" is related to age. It seems to me that in another generation the USA will consider Chinese and Russian standards for individual rights to be okay.
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all that sounds great but how do i set up my verizon mail account in the gmail app?
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all that sounds great but how do i set up my verizon mail account in the gmail app?
I have my verizon account setup there. Go to gmail online, settings, accounts and import, check mail using pop3:, add pop3 email account.

In setting you add your signature, which account to send with, it was easier to use Gmail server to send although it still appears as though it was sent from your Verizon account.

Let me know how it works.
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Just think about those "Industry Standards" and "Common Sense" blanket exceptions to privacy.

I can't help but wonder how directly related "blind trust in corporations" is related to age. It seems to me that in another generation the USA will consider Chinese and Russian standards for individual rights to be okay.
I wouldn't worry unless your email includes military or corporate secrets, in which case I doubt you would use Google. I think Google is just thrilled at the chance to beat Microsoft Outlook and Exchange Server.

Its not everyday you get to topple the great MS.
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Here is Google's privacy policy:

About Gmail

I do not think they want the wrath of millions by violating it!
That's all well and good, but it would mean my info is sitting on a server, which is more visible (vulnerable) to the rest of the "World", than say, my Optimum Online cable account.

Gmail app is definately more robust than any other POP3 handler out there...just wish that it would create another "Label tree" for the exteral account, rather than merging everything in the same inbox. I created a new label, along with a filter with the external Pop3, so that it makes a copy of messages in its self-named "label". It still leaves a copy of messages in the main Inbox though, but at least it "tags" the message, so you know which account its for, viewable in the "Inbox" view.
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Here is a good tutorial from Google:

Get mail from other accounts - Gmail Help

Hope this helps everyone.
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great find! I almost had to trade this in, couldn't get my college email to come in through the email client .
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That's all well and good, but it would mean my info is sitting on a server, which is more visible (vulnerable) to the rest of the "World", than say, my Optimum Online cable account.

Gmail app is definately more robust than any other POP3 handler out there...just wish that it would create another "Label tree" for the exteral account, rather than merging everything in the same inbox. I created a new label, along with a filter with the external Pop3, so that it makes a copy of messages in its self-named "label". It still leaves a copy of messages in the main Inbox though, but at least it "tags" the message, so you know which account its for, viewable in the "Inbox" view.
In your filter you click to skip the inbox or after you have read it you can move to the label from phone or web.
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In your filter you click to skip the inbox or after you have read it you can move to the label from phone or web.

Yeah, I used both "Import POP3" and "Check email from another POP3". Import method doesn't let you pick whether to "leave messages on server", so I cancelled before I saw any changes after 10 min. On a 3rd refresh it actually did pull in most of my messages, and auto created a folder.

This after using the "Check other POP3" method, where I created all rules/filters and label specifically for external account.

I got it working ok, not sure if I'll continue, but I tried spending more time finding more info about the data stored from the native "Backup". Curious on schedule, and what actually gets backed up...whether you can adjust items backed up, or specific backup in time, etc.


Google = Big Brother ;-)
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Yeah, I used both "Import POP3" and "Check email from another POP3". Import method doesn't let you pick whether to "leave messages on server", so I cancelled before I saw any changes after 10 min. On a 3rd refresh it actually did pull in most of my messages, and auto created a folder.

This after using the "Check other POP3" method, where I created all rules/filters and label specifically for external account.

I got it working ok, not sure if I'll continue, but I tried spending more time finding more info about the data stored from the native "Backup". Curious on schedule, and what actually gets backed up...whether you can adjust items backed up, or specific backup in time, etc.


Google = Big Brother ;-)
You right, I did not see an option for leaving the messages on the other server but my experience is that it does.

Also can take a long time initially to get all your mail.

MS = Bigger Brother!
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Things I did not find working - can't view embedded images created in Outlook and once I delete from Gmail it does not delete from the server so I have to go back to Outlook and delete them there. Double work

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ok so i got my verizon mail setup on gmail, all the emails are coming in fine, but when i go to send a mail from my phone its showing up as sent from gmail not verizon...how do i get it to show up as sent from verizon?
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Yeah the import method leaves messages on server by default...checked via Outlook, forgot to post.
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This is meant to be used in stead of Outlook. Otherwise I agree double work.
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ok so i got my verizon mail setup on gmail, all the emails are coming in fine, but when i go to send a mail from my phone its showing up as sent from gmail not verizon...how do i get it to show up as sent from verizon?
Gmail Web, Settings, Accounts and Import, Send Mail as: You can make any account as default and also select:

When receiving a message:
Reply from the same address the message was sent to
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You really do not need Outlook Gmail has contacts and calendar all synced to your phone and phone to web as well.

I understand it feels funny not to use Outlook, but I think the Gmail Web is more universally assessable.
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now it says

demarco575@gmail.com; on behalf of; Chris DeMarco [demarco575@verizon.net]

i guess if i dont mind how sloppy that looks i should be ok! lol thanks
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demarco575@gmail.com; on behalf of; Chris DeMarco [demarco575@verizon.net]

i guess if i dont mind how sloppy that looks i should be ok! lol thanks
Try making your Verizon account the default account. I just sent to Gmail and it did say on behalf of!
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i think it only says it in outlook, not on the gmail app.............so i guess its alrerady defaulted?
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For those needing an offline version of Gmail to compose, review email when not connected to the internet with your laptop go to:

Gmail Web, Settings, Labs and enable offline. Then save changes and you will go through a series steps which installs Googles Gears.

This program will install an HTML based computer resident version of Gmail. It will also sync all your data locally for use offline.
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For those needing an offline version of Gmail to compose, review email when not connected to the internet with your laptop go to:

Gmail Web, Settings, Labs and enable offline. Then save changes and you will go through a series steps which installs Googles Gears.

This program will install an HTML based computer resident version of Gmail. It will also sync all your data locally for use offline.
In Google Calendar you can click offline in the top right and it will install a similar offline component.
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so im running gmail now with the verizon account in there, its missed a couple emails though and i dont see them in the spam folder even though they were pretty much kinda spam???????????
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so im running gmail now with the verizon account in there, its missed a couple emails though and i dont see them in the spam folder even though they were pretty much kinda spam???????????
Did you apply any filters that would make them go directly into another folder. I have had no problems yet. But I have read the Gmail has great spam ability, could it completely get rid of something dangerous?
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There is also a Gmail notifier program. It tell you when you have mail on your computer desktop. Go here:

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so i found out that when i went into the pop settings for my verizon account in the gmail webmail that....i had to click check my mail for it to update and give m my new emails that i was missing before, it looks like it checks every 30mins to an hour, that doesnt make any sense?
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yeah i cant have it like this can you help?

Check mail using POP3:demarco575@verizon.net

Last checked: 8 minutes ago.134 mails fetched.View history Check mail now edit info delete

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so i found out that when i went into the pop settings for my verizon account in the gmail webmail that....i had to click check my mail for it to update and give m my new emails that i was missing before, it looks like it checks every 30mins to an hour, that doesnt make any sense?
Mine says checks 30 min as well but I have been getting mail every few minutes, don't worry!
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yeah mine went without an hour without getting an email looks like im gonna have to head back to the old app
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It takes a while for all your old emails to arrive at Gmail. But you will see all new emails very quickly. Again my new emails arrive every few minutes.
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yeah mine went without an hour without getting an email looks like im gonna have to head back to the old app
Run both for a while and see what happens.
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ill test it the rest of day now and see how long it takes
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Check your view history, mine has checked for mail on average every 2 minutes. It is then pushed to my Droid ASAP.
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yeah your right but since its really not PUSHING to your phone its kind of the same as the regular email app, every 5 mins youll get your emails.......so what is the benefits of using this gmail app then? not tryin to be rude just wanted to see the reasons
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yeah your right but since its really not PUSHING to your phone its kind of the same as the regular email app, every 5 mins youll get your emails.......so what is the benefits of using this gmail app then? not tryin to be rude just wanted to see the reasons
If you look in the setting on your Droid for Gmail there are no setting for sync timing, that's why I think it is being pushed. It seems to be spontaneous when you hear the notifications on your desktop and get the Droid notification. The other advantages are:

1) All your mail in one spot with small email tags identifying what account they are from.

2) Signatures for your outgoing mail with the Gmail app.

3) You can file all your emails by labels (folders).

4) You can search all your mail.

5) You can filter your mail so it goes directly in the labels (folders).

6) If you have an attachment in an email, you can save a bookmark for the Gmail website on your home screen and you can go there and download the attachment to your Droid. Works great!

7) At all times you have access to all email on the Gmail website mirrored on your droid.

8) You can also accept appointments created with Outlook through the web side app accessible from your phone.
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thanks, how do i mark a gmail msg as read without opening? on the droid it only gives archive or delete, im not even sure what archive does
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Only see mark as read on line, archive removes it from the inbox but leave it in all mail.
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All mail coming through Gmail.

Is anyone using this method with good results?

Please post any tips or problems you might be having!
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I had it working fine with (2) different providers...so much better working with an app that has more features. I deleted everything though...didn't like google having so much info on me sitting in their cloud. I still don't know where my phone's backup goes.
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working great for me so far thanks
i find it that im not even using the extra features it has over the regular app though lol
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Old November 25th, 2009, 09:57 AM   #43 (permalink)
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working great for me so far thanks
i find it that im not even using the extra features it has over the regular app though lol
What I find I use are the labels, search and that I can file an email from my Droid and also the separate spam box. I also like downloading attachments to my Droid.
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Old November 26th, 2009, 08:56 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Here is Google's privacy policy:

About Gmail

I do not think they want the wrath of millions by violating it!
It would be nice if i was guaranteed that...but the way things are in the corporate world and the greed that has spread to epidemic proportions...I just do not trust....I agree with the other thread not wanting google to be sitting next to me all the time....
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Mail Fetcher?

Nice find for getting pop3 accounts to work on the better mail app.

But for me, its enough that google knows my telephone number, location 24/7, contacts' names/numbers/addresses, my browsing and online shopping habits, files on my phone, and lord knows what else, without them having my email sitting on their servers.
I agree...What is the best way to set up so google only has what i want them to have?
I am trying to figure out how to stop the synching on my Samsung Moment so that google does not get everything. I hope i did not make a mistake by going from my palm treo to android....
I am thinking of turning in my samsung moment and looking at windows devices like the HTC pro 2 or blackberry Tour or the new ( might not be out yet) blackberry touch screen with slide out keyboard.
I have not been happy with android calender and contacts...too much lag between entries and too many steps to do anything and poor search functions....makes it not too productive...thank you all and have a great thanksgiving.
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I have setup all my pop3 accounts through Gmail. The advantages are:

1) All your mail in one spot with small email tags identifying what account they are from.

2) Signatures for your outgoing mail with the Gmail app.

3) You can file all your emails by labels (folders).

4) You can search all your mail.

5) You can filter your mail so it goes directly in the labels (folders).

6) If you have an attachment in an email, you can save a bookmark for the Gmail website on your home screen and you can go there and download the attachment to your Droid. Works great!

7) At all times you have access to all email on the Gmail website mirrored on your droid.

8) You can also accept appointments created with Outlook through the web side app accessible from your phone.

All the functionality of a Blackberry with better website functionality. I am really starting to get the functionality Google meant in the Droid!
Cool thanks...I have added my other Gmail address to my main Gmail account. Is it possible though to be able to choose which account you want to send a message from or do you have to be logged into that particular Gmail account which would be a bit of a pain?
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my gmail is only checking every hour today no clue why
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Cool thanks...I have added my other Gmail address to my main Gmail account. Is it possible though to be able to choose which account you want to send a message from or do you have to be logged into that particular Gmail account which would be a bit of a pain?
You tell settings to reply to where it was sent or to send all mail by a default account.
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my gmail is only checking every hour today no clue why
I have noticed it checks my mail less frequently on off hours. Maybe its based on mail traffic volume.
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The gmail app is checking your pop3 email and then pushing it to your phone. The problem is you need to get a lot of email for it to keep checking often.

If gmail checks your pop3 account and finds an email it will recheck it fairly soon (not sure what the time is) but if it doesn't find any it will not check again for 30 min.

It does work great, just don't expect to get your pop3 email fast. I just forwarded my pop3 address to my gmail address, then I set gmail to respond using my pop3 address, it's really fast that way.
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