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Old December 9th, 2009, 07:35 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Can one of you having these problems make a video of it? I've tried many of the sites listed, and they're fine for me on 2.0.1.

I cant make a video, but can you tell me if you did the update manually or if you got the official one from verizon?

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Bump to get a few more stars on this issue... We're now on the front page of the issues list:
Issue 5286 - android - Browser lags when scrolling after 2.0.1 Update on Motorola DROID - Project Hosting on Google Code

55 stars now, looking good More always needed.




This info would help if people who are experiencing this could post:

  • - Which browser are you using? (stock, dolphin, other)
  • - Did you update via Verizon's OTA auto update or Manually through the link to Google on this forum?
  • - Is the problem on all sites or only some?
  • - Is the problem intermittent and comes and goes or is it continuous/all the time?
  • - Can you list some problematic sites?
  • - Did you notice anything else that might be important? Specific areas of lag?
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1) Stock & Dolphin both, worse in Dolphin
2) Manually updated.
3) Only some sites.
4) Mostly intermittent.
5) Androidforums.com, engadget.com
6) Some elements like text input boxes seem to also greatly affect the scrolling speed.
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it works great on some sites like androidcentral.com, but for others its horrible
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  • Which browser are you using? Stock

  • Did you update via Verizon's OTA auto update or Manually through the link to Google on this forum? Manually

  • Is the problem on all sites or only some? seems to be on the majority of sites especially since most sites have alot of images and whatnot

  • Is the problem intermittent and comes and goes or is it continuous/all the time? seems to be everytime i go to any site like listed above including facebook app

  • - Can you list some problematic sites? facebook app,this site,wrestlezone,cnn

  • - Did you notice anything else that might be important? Specific areas of lag? its the scrolling through the page that lags and tends to do so more over sites covered in images
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Old December 9th, 2009, 08:53 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Thanks iamloco helpful stuff
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Dolphin and stock
Manual update
Facebook, BGR
Most sites, but intermittent.
Scrolling and also had some multi touch flakiness on dolphin while browsing this forum.
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Engadget seems to be the biggest culprit for me but I have yet to notice any slow down on any other sites. On Engadget most of the lag happens on top where the flash ads and graphic intensive areas are but below that my scrolling is perfect. This could be more of a website issue than the browser itself. My 0.02 anyways.
engafget website has some serios problems even using a pc. its slow and throws script errors. cant belive they dont know how to fix it
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engafget website has some serios problems even using a pc. its slow and throws script errors. cant belive they dont know how to fix it
errr...works perfect for me on pc. using firefox 3.5.5.
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yea i never have probs with engadget on my pc using the same firefox
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76 stars, I think we're almost into the top ten defects with this.
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Starred. No update yet but would like the problem to be fixed before i get the notification

AAAAnnndd this is why Verizon is slowly rolling out the update, to fix the bugs.
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I cant make a video, but can you tell me if you did the update manually or if you got the official one from verizon?
I did the manual update. So it looks like the one site everyone mentions is this one. I'm really not seeing scroll lag here.
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AAAAnnndd this is why Verizon is slowly rolling out the update, to fix the bugs.
You wont see any fixes in the current release. It's locked in stone (version, etc) until the next release.

They're rolling it out so slowly to avoid network congestion. The file is about 10MB in size. That's a lot of "pushed" bandwidth at any given time. So they're doing it in 200,000 user increments to have minimal to no effect on data users on the network since this is only 1 of many data heavy devices running at any given time. They're not going to max out their bandwidth in any given area in just OTA Push updates.

This was the "approved" version. Until the next one, rumored in January, this is what we get.
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errr...works perfect for me on pc. using firefox 3.5.5.
unfortunately installing firefox on my 4 pc's would not be worth it. I know they know about the issue as there are posts on their own website about the issue so i would imagine they will fix it unless they want to lose viewers. not everyone is willing to install a new browser just to view one website. it’s not bad enough to make me stop viewing it though, i am addicted to the website


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Anyone else asl have some scrolling lag on other thing ojn the phone like scrolling in settings its not nearly as bad but i do see somelag there on mkine that wasnt there before
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You wont see any fixes in the current release. It's locked in stone (version, etc) until the next release.

They're rolling it out so slowly to avoid network congestion. The file is about 10MB in size. That's a lot of "pushed" bandwidth at any given time. So they're doing it in 200,000 user increments to have minimal to no effect on data users on the network since this is only 1 of many data heavy devices running at any given time. They're not going to max out their bandwidth in any given area in just OTA Push updates.

This was the "approved" version. Until the next one, rumored in January, this is what we get.
+1. Guys do you really see google quickly checking over the bugs that people report, fixing them in a matter of hours, submitting the "newer" version of 2.0.1 to verizon, verizon approving it, all by the deadline? I don't think so. This is the version that we're all going to get, whether, OTA or manual. Any bugs found will be fixed in the next update.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 01:09 AM   #67 (permalink)
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maybe they'll do a stealth hotfix that gets pushed automatically. who knows? its google. i swear these guys are capable of just about everything.
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maybe they'll do a stealth hotfix that gets pushed automatically. who knows? its google. i swear these guys are capable of just about everything.
Amen.

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Well, after some thinking it over, reading the bug issues etc... I did it anyway, happy to report not a single issue, no lag on the dolphin browser, very happy, notification menu is much smoother as are the other touch menus, the market did have the downloads instead of the vzw tab, and there were updates for my existing apps there when I opened it. Nice overall happy.
I did get the notification for the OTA this morning, but power cycled the handset prior to running it and lost the notification upon power up. Overall happy w/ it and very happy that I am not having the browser issues yous guys are. I did notice it lag a little while loading the page, but once loaded, good as always.
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I manually updated my droid tonight, tried using dolphin and loaded up engadget and phandroid. I didn't really notice any lagging or problems. I haven't really done any extensive testing though.

Does someone want to make a video or describe more specifically what is happening?
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maybe they'll do a stealth hotfix that gets pushed automatically. who knows? its google. i swear these guys are capable of just about everything.
No they'd never go around Verizon and push something like that out. As cool and important as we think we are Google's real customers are Verizon. We're just the peons that googles customers wish to reach... Granted Google has to keep us around to keep their position but they also remember where their bread is buttered. To use another cliche its not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds them by going around VZW.

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You're using Dolphin with Android 2.01 on your Droid and you're not experiencing a lag, even on graphic-intense web pages?
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If you are replying to me, yes I am using dolphin on 2.01 and have experienced no lag. zooming in and out and scrolling up and down are smooth.
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Yes, I was replying to you. Did you install 2.01 manually? Also, have you tested the stock browser to see if there's a lag with it? The reason I ask is I've noticed a lot of complaints from others. You seem to be one of the few with no problems.

Besides that, can you tell us less fortunate users how the overall Droid performance is with 2.01. Did the update do what we were told it would do? Thanks.
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I installed it manually. I just tried the stock browser with engadget and i didn't have any scrolling issues either. again i'm not exactly sure what the issue is so maybe i'm not testing it right.

i definitely see a slight improvement in overall snappyness of the OS from 2.0 to 2.01. Also it does seem to hold 3g signals a bit better, in my office and my apt i used to bounce between 3g and 1x and now it mostly stays at 3g. I've only tested it for <12 hours however, so take that for what its worth.
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Rking, when using dolphin can you still hold down on a link and get it to bring up the option to open in a new tab? It doesnt do anything when i hold down on a link. When i finally let go it just puts an orange border around it. I didnt know if maybe itneeds updated for 2.0.1
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yeah when i hold down a link it brings up a menu, i select 'link' and then from there i can open it in a new tab. never tried it in 2.0 though so not sure if its any different.
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yeah when i hold down a link it brings up a menu, i select 'link' and then from there i can open it in a new tab. never tried it in 2.0 though so not sure if its any different.
Thanks for the quick reply. I never tried it on 2.0 either, i just know its not working for me on 2.0.1
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Quick update, i think the dolphin browser opening link in new tab is related to using home ++. I switched to stock android home screen and it worked just fine, went back to home ++ and it stopped working again. Lagginess is still just as bad either way though
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btw there's an update for home++. i turned it off because i was getting FC's after the new update. maybe its fixed now.
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here's a video another member made: Browser Issue with Verizon Droid 2.0.1 Update - JefTek.com

Just posting in case he doesn't happen by this thread, plus I know people here were asking for a video.
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btw there's an update for home++. i turned it off because i was getting FC's after the new update. maybe its fixed now.
Thanks, but i already have the most up to date version. I never get force closes with it, only when first turning on the phone, im sorry you are having problems with it. I shot an email to the home ++ developer about the dolphin issue.
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here's a video another member made: Browser Issue with Verizon Droid 2.0.1 Update - JefTek.com

Just posting in case he doesn't happen by this thread, plus I know people here were asking for a video.
thanks for that link. I do see the issue after visiting one site he showed in the video, alldroid.org. the graphic intensive sites like engadget seem ok so i'm not sure what the cause of this is, cause the pages on alldroid are mostly text. Anyway, I would like to see it fixed as well but its not a huge huge issue for me, though I could see how it can get really annoying after a while.
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hmm tested it on alldroid.org and it was indeed very laggy. even more laggy than this site. seems to me that the browser now has problems handling forums maybe? dunno why because forums are mostly text. maybe its all the different windows/box/tables that they have.
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thanks for that link. I do see the issue after visiting one site he showed in the video, alldroid.org. the graphic intensive sites like engadget seem ok so i'm not sure what the cause of this is, cause the pages on alldroid are mostly text. Anyway, I would like to see it fixed as well but its not a huge huge issue for me, though I could see how it can get really annoying after a while.

This is why I actually think it has to do with link events. Since they just fixed a bug related to link events, it makes sense too. For any large graphic or large form input field, the browser may be doing extra work to check to see if you're scrolling or clicking, which in turn causes the scroll to slow down.
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has anyone tried the app killer; advanced task killer free

i use it to kill apps running in the background and it has made my droid work quicker
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has anyone tried the app killer; advanced task killer free

i use it to kill apps running in the background and it has made my droid work quicker

i use the paid one and i kill apps manually and also it automatically does it every 30 min

the phone its self is fast but this app hasnt helped the browser lag issue
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ah ok

so how is everyone getting the droid update?

i havent gotten any notification saying theres an update available...

my firmware versoin still reads 2.0
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I use the free one to kill manually and the paid one gets the rest every 30 minutes. You're correct, it makes the phone faster and adds to battery life.
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so how is everyone getting the firmware update?
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most of us did the manual update which can be found by browsing the board
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1) Stock
2) OTA this morning
3)Almost all (75%) gets to about 10% loaded, sticks, jumps to 30%, sticks, etc etc
4) all the time
5) Can you list some problematic sites? droidforums.net, google.com, cooks.com, recipesource.com, facebook.com, cnn.com...get the idea? :-P
6) gmail (app) works fine, sms is great, phone call is okay. Showing 3g but there's no way it's 3g. Maps work too!!!
EDIT: market is IMPOSSIBLE

Whyy I love my droid! Cmon I've got to travel tomorrow this is ridonkulous! Considering going to VZW to return this...

Can I uninstall the OTA??
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I found that mine didn't do anything at all in the browser while connected with wifi. Once turned off and on 3G network, everything ran smoother than ever before
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Wow this is the 3rd most starred defect now. Behind only to Bluetooth dialing and contact groups.

Issue 5286 - android - Browser lags when scrolling after 2.0.1 Update on Motorola DROID - Project Hosting on Google Code





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Starred. OTA install, everything else seems fine.
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Wow this is the 3rd most starred defect now. Behind only to Bluetooth dialing and contact groups.

Issue 5286 - android - Browser lags when scrolling after 2.0.1 Update on Motorola DROID - Project Hosting on Google Code





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Also starred, lets get some more people on this list. Im almost at the point of exchanging my phone in hopes the new one is the one of ten that the update diesnt criplle browsing, which is the biggest feature i use. Thanks to all that have contributed.
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Browser works much faster for me, since ugrade - FWIW, I upgraded OTA, not manually
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I have the lag issue also on some sites. I upgraded this morning with the OTA update.
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i awoke this morning to find an update notification window...

i chose update now and thats all i needed to do

phone powered off, powered on, updated, powered off, then powered on...

everything seems the same as before honestly...and i dont recognize any lag either...
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Old December 13th, 2009, 04:24 PM   #100 (permalink)
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Thanks to all those that starred this by the way. We made it to the #3 Defect on Android. With a little luck I'd imagine they will be looking at this very soon
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