I would like to sync with my Outlook. When I delete a: calendar, email, contact on my phone (or on the computer), I would like the same action to occur on the other device.
I am actually able to sync the contact and calender functions using Go Contact Sync and Google Calendar sync, respectively. The problem is the email. I don't use exchange for imap. I dont have an IT department or corporate anything. I just want to not have to delete my email in: combined inbox, each inbox individually, and on my computer at home. That's what I can't do. I moved from my Palm Treo and was going to get the Storm 2, but this Droid seemed like the ticket. Then... it doesn't really sync with Outlook. Kind of a bummer since my old old Treo did so.
I am actually able to sync the contact and calender functions using Go Contact Sync and Google Calendar sync, respectively. The problem is the email. I don't use exchange for imap. I dont have an IT department or corporate anything. I just want to not have to delete my email in: combined inbox, each inbox individually, and on my computer at home. That's what I can't do. I moved from my Palm Treo and was going to get the Storm 2, but this Droid seemed like the ticket. Then... it doesn't really sync with Outlook. Kind of a bummer since my old old Treo did so.
Then there must he something in the setup of your Outlook. When I delete an Outlook email from my phone, I deletes it from the phone, and the server. Though it does take a few minutes to actually delete from the server.
It doesn't sound like the OP is using an Exchange server for Outlook. I think he was doing USB desktop-type sync previously with Treo, and is looking for the same here, which isn't possible. If you want your email/contacts/calendar in Outlook to stay synced across devices, then you'll have to use an Exchange server if your company uses one, unless a third party app has been released that I don't know about.
I appreciate all you smart people trying to help me. I said I don't use Exchange OR imap. I use pop. You now have an encyclopedic list of everything I know about email.
alostpacket asked if I don't use exchange, what do I use. I use pop email from 1and1.com, a hosting site that hosts the .com I use for email. I also have a gmail account.
As far as I can tell, this is how my email works:
An email hits either address, gmail or .com, and is forwarded to my Droid. Outlook also checks these same 2 areas every few minutes. The Droid has no way of knowing that I even use Outlook, therefore any deletion on my Droid has no effect on my Outlook, and vice versa.
Hi crankerchick. I used a program provided by Vereizon called Wireless Sync to sync Outlook with my Treo. I do want the same effect, but can't seem to get it. Not wired either.
I think a big weakness in the whole tech world is assuming that the majority of people have any company or IT support. I have nothing at all. Most people like me just give up.
I appreciate all you smart people trying to help me. I said I don't use Exchange OR imap. I use pop. You now have an encyclopedic list of everything I know about email.
alostpacket asked if I don't use exchange, what do I use. I use pop email from 1and1.com, a hosting site that hosts the .com I use for email. I also have a gmail account.
As far as I can tell, this is how my email works:
An email hits either address, gmail or .com, and is forwarded to my Droid. Outlook also checks these same 2 areas every few minutes. The Droid has no way of knowing that I even use Outlook, therefore any deletion on my Droid has no effect on my Outlook, and vice versa.
If you delete an email in your .com inbox, then go to 1and1.com, login, and look at their mail viewer, is the email deleted there?
I also have a 1and1.com email, so I will test this.
Chris, you cannot do what you are trying to do with a pop account. You must use an imap account to do this.
Also, outlook is NOT synonymous with exchange. In fact, most outlook users are on pop accounts. The majority of small businesses and home accounts use either outlook or msmail. Most small business also do not have IT support in house either, so it is a pain if you don't know this stuff.
You can pay 1and1 an extra $10 a month for a hosted exchange account (imap) and sync your email.
I have a small company with 10 people, all set up on pop accounts. I have had a treo, winmo, bb and now droid. On none of them could i sync email, but everything else sync'd great. frustrated that i can't sync contacts, memos, todo and calendar easily either on droid. I am now syncing calendar with google calendar, haven't found a good solution for any of the others. "the missing sync" is working on this, they now have contacts, but don't have todos and memos yet.
If deleting in your outlook also deletes at the 1and1 level, then you are not using POP on your Outlook, but instead IMAP. Try looking at the settings in your Outlook for the IMAP configuration of the account and duplicate that on your phone, creating your mail account as IMAP instead of POP.
crankerchick: I definitely use pop in my outlook. in "more settings" advanced tab, I have checked: leave a copy of the message on the server and delete after 1 day. I don't want to delete it immediately, because I need to make sure my phone gets it. I used to have it delete immediately, prior to owning the Droid. I still don't think the Droid and OUtlook are aware of each other's existence.
the droid and outlook if using pop are NOT aware of each other. So you are saying that when you delete a message on your phone, it also deletes on your desktop computer in Outlook? Thanks for the tip on Gocontact sync
My email at 1and1 does delete when I delete it in OUtlook.
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in "more settings" advanced tab, I have checked: leave a copy of the message on the server and delete after 1 day.
Ok, so the first statement is what lead me to believe you were using IMAP in Outlook, because you said deleting on the desktop deletes it when you look online at 1and1. The second statement is ACTUALLY what is happening, which is that Outlook is deleting the mail off the server after a day. The 2 aren't truly in sync, but just the message is getting deleted after a day.
Your outlook and Droid aren't aware of each other like you said, and there is no way for them to be aware of each other as long as you have them both set up as POP. You need IMAP to accomplish what you are trying to do.
So crankerchick, you are giving me hope. If I change my mail at 1and1 to imap, then the Droid and Outlook will know each other each other exist? 1and1 has an exchange option, but eclipsed4utoo says that the FAQ says I can use imap. Of course, as you can tell from reading all this, I really won't know what to do when I make the change. That has never stopped me yet.
Yes you have hope, you will want to set up 1and1 as IMAP and then reconfigure your Outlook and Android email accounts to IMAP. Then everybody will play nicely together and it will be a true sync.
If you can do exchange on 1and1, that would be preferable over IMAP I believe, because then you will have "push" notification. The difference is with push, as soon as a new message is received at 1and1, it will send the notification to your phone and your desktop Outlook (any client listening on the exchange server basically).
With IMAP, everything will be in sync as you like, but the difference is your Outlook and your Droid will have to go and "check for new mail" at some interval you specify, versus being notified of when new mail arrives. So, you will have to trade how frequently the Droid checks for mail with battery life. With push, it is "instant" without your phone constantly having to "check for new mail." This is at least how I understand it to work.
Setting up IMAP or exchange is no harder than setting up POP, you just need the right server addresses.
That sounds encouraging. The checking at intervals would be fine with me as that's how I have always done it. I'm going to go onto 1and1 and try to set it up right now. I'll let you know if it works.
Gmail already support IMAP as well. Your Droid is already set up to sync, just change your gmail account in Outlook to IMAP as well. Directions are definitely on google somewhere.
crankerchick: I definitely use pop in my outlook. in "more settings" advanced tab, I have checked: leave a copy of the message on the server and delete after 1 day. I don't want to delete it immediately, because I need to make sure my phone gets it. I used to have it delete immediately, prior to owning the Droid. I still don't think the Droid and OUtlook are aware of each other's existence.
they don't need to be. they are both connecting to the same server. if the email is on the server, then the email is on the droid and in outlook. if the email is not on the server, it shouldn't show up on the droid or in outlook. Outlook and the DROID do not need to be aware of each other.
they don't need to be. they are both connecting to the same server. if the email is on the server, then the email is on the droid and in outlook. if the email is not on the server, it shouldn't show up on the droid or in outlook. Outlook and the DROID do not need to be aware of each other.
I think you are missing the OP's original issue. They don't "need to be aware of each other" for receiving mail. Like you said, if it's on the server, it will show up on the device. But once they are on the device (and off the server after one day), deleting from one device (Droid) won't propograte a delete to the other device (Outlook) and vice versa. This is the OPs problem. His original method wasn't a true a sync so although mail would leave the server as he desired, it doesn't propograte deletions across the clients. Hence IMAP or exchange.
Last edited by crankerchick; January 7th, 2010 at 01:33 PM.
I think you are missing the OP's original issue. They don't "need to be aware of each other" for receiving mail. Like you said, if it's on the server, it will show up on the device. But once they are on the device (and off the server after one day), deleting from one device (Droid) won't propograte a delete to the other device (Outlook) and vice versa. This is the OPs problem. His original method wasn't a true a sync so although mail would leave the server as he desired, it doesn't propograte deletions across the clients. Hence IMAP or exchange.
Again, you are all way too smart for me. I don't have any idea what OP is, and I don't know if that's relevant.
I'm trying this imap thing and this is how I understand it:
mail hits imap.gmail.com (or 1and1)
Droid checks at set interval, and obtains mail from imap.gmail.com
Outlook checks at set interval, and obtains mail from imap.gmail.com
I delete mail, on either Droid or Outlook.
When Droid or Outlook check imap.gmail.com, they tell it the mail has been deleted.
When the other device, from which I DID NOT delete the email checks imap.gmail.com, it will discover that the mail is no longer there, and will delete it from that device, which I DID NOT use to delete it.
That comment goes to the heart of my conflict. We can put a man on the moon. We can hit a missle with another missle, while in flight! My son can waste 60% of his life making little knights fight little dragons and they look real. But, I can't push one delete button and get an email deleted from my computer and my phone. That ain't right.
I can easily delete it from Outlook and my Droid separately. I don't want to and I don't think that's too much to ask. I have to assume it's my lack of know how, but I can't be the only one to have noticed this difficulty.
chris.harris34 what you have typed is exactly how it should work. if you have set up everything as IMAP correctly, you should be good to go. Test it out by sending an email to yourself.
It does seem to be working. I'm deleting the email that notified me of this post and doing it on my Droid. It is sitting there in my Outlook inbox and I'm not going to manually delete it there. Hopefully, it will discover that it's supposed to be deleted.
Unfortunately, I now have 3 inboxes in Outlook to check, so I don't know if I've gained anything.
Remember, I'm a dummy on this stuff. I now have an inbox under: personal folders, charris m3k (1), and chris.harris34@gmail.com. I have no idea why the two new folder were created.
Ah well, if I remember correctly, I don't think an IMAP account is allowed to be the primary account in outlook, so your inbox under 'personal folders' is probably empty (or is still your old pop account if you didn't delete it).
The other 2 are your two IMAP accounts.
Note that since your IMAP accounts are not the primary email accounts, outlook won't give the nice little translucent notification when new mail is received.
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To me Google Apps with Outlook support is the only way to go but costs $50/year. I forward all my mail accounts there and use Outlook on the desktop. Everything syncs perfectly I never have to plug my phone in except for charging. I am on my second 30 day trial so have not paid yet. You must have a domain though or can by one from Google for $10.
That comment goes to the heart of my conflict. We can put a man on the moon. We can hit a missle with another missle, while in flight! My son can waste 60% of his life making little knights fight little dragons and they look real. But, I can't push one delete button and get an email deleted from my computer and my phone. That ain't right.
I can easily delete it from Outlook and my Droid separately. I don't want to and I don't think that's too much to ask. I have to assume it's my lack of know how, but I can't be the only one to have noticed this difficulty.
First of all LMFAO!!!!!!! I love your post!
OK, now that THAT's out of the way. I am connected to a hosted exchange server from my office and my DROID... when I delete an email on my DROID, it deleted on the server hence withing about a minute it's gone from my inbox in outlook as well. And the reverse is also true.
MY only qualm is how the Android version of the exchange client handles folders.... I would love to be able to say, "Sync the following folders all the time and display a message when there is new email in these folders". This is useful because I have sevelal server side rules that move emails to some of my folders (eg, from My Boss, My wife, My girlfriend, etc).
You could try to use gsyncit, it is a 3rd party app that synchronizes your gmail with outlook (contacts and calendar). Also you could set gmail to get your other e-mails so that both the droid and outlook would only have to connect to your gmail account.
rjoudrey,
I'm willing to pay $50 a year to seamlessly sync outlook, but it looks like I don't have to. THe imap appears to do that, at no extra charge. My test worked, I deleted an email on my Droid and it disappeared from my inbox.
Jugo:
I don't know what LMFAO means, but I'm glad it amused you. I don't need to know either, by the way. I think that crankerchick and the others got me dialed in pretty good. I hate having to check 3 inboxes in Outlook, but that is a fight for another day.
It's funny to me how this tech thing works. I use a software called Xactimate in my work. Tech support can tell me all about folders and database exchanges, and import/export, bits and bytes. But they don't have any idea how to produce work product with their software. They've never done it, not even once. (I do sort of like calling tech support of any kind though. I am the most average guy on the planet, except when I call tech support, I have alway invented a problem never before seen since the dawn of man.)
OK, now that THAT's out of the way. I am connected to a hosted exchange server from my office and my DROID... when I delete an email on my DROID, it deleted on the server hence withing about a minute it's gone from my inbox in outlook as well. And the reverse is also true.
MY only qualm is how the Android version of the exchange client handles folders.... I would love to be able to say, "Sync the following folders all the time and display a message when there is new email in these folders". This is useful because I have sevelal server side rules that move emails to some of my folders (eg, from My Boss, My wife, My girlfriend, etc).
And it works fine with Exchange, but the OP is not using Exchange.
MY only qualm is how the Android version of the exchange client handles folders.... I would love to be able to say, "Sync the following folders all the time and display a message when there is new email in these folders". This is useful because I have sevelal server side rules that move emails to some of my folders (eg, from My Boss, My wife, My girlfriend, etc).
I'm not sure that you can do that in Outlook. In its stock configuration, only the Inbox gives a new message indication. However, I do think that you can write rules that will pop up notifications for new mail in non-inbox folders as a result of rules that moved messages from the inbox to those folders in the first place.
I'd give it a tad of time. The strange thing about Android is that programmers seem to build stuff the minute it's requested. I've noticed with many apps that the guys seem to release updates every week!
My test worked, I deleted an email on my Droid and it disappeared from my inbox.
Glad you were able to get IMAP set up successfully. Regarding 3 inboxes, like I said before, I suspect the inbox under your 'personal' folders isn't one that needs to be checked. It is either, your old POP account, which you can delete, or it is just an empty inbox not set to receive any mail. It stays there because outlook makes it stay there because it won't allow an IMAP account as the primary account. That inbox is the one that physically resides on your computer in the outlook pst file.
Is this possible and if so how do I do it? I read a few previous posts but am not familiar with GoContacts and how do I access it. Can someone who speaks laymans terms please explain?
That comment goes to the heart of my conflict. We can put a man on the moon. We can hit a missle with another missle, while in flight! My son can waste 60% of his life making little knights fight little dragons and they look real. But, I can't push one delete button and get an email deleted from my computer and my phone. That ain't right.
I can easily delete it from Outlook and my Droid separately. I don't want to and I don't think that's too much to ask. I have to assume it's my lack of know how, but I can't be the only one to have noticed this difficulty.
Chris, I bought my Milestone Droid 2 weeks ago, and I have exactly the same problem you describe. I considered returning the Milestone, but have decided to hang in there in the hope some brilliant, non-partisan person will develop a Outlook (yes, it's only a mail client) sync interface for the Droid that can deal with pop mail and have Google and Microsoft play together in the same sand box, so I don't to subscribe to yet another mail service when the majority of email users use Outlook (with Exchange, pop, imap, whatever) ... now let's all pray for a bit of good luck o_0
I would like to sync with my Outlook. When I delete a: calendar, email, contact on my phone (or on the computer), I would like the same action to occur on the other device.
It seems this is impossible. Am I correct?
Try DejaOffice from Companion Link software (CL USB is what I use). It ain't perfect, but it's pretty close to synching Outlook like Palm would synch with Palm Desktop, and you don't have to upload all your info to Google servers.
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