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Old October 12th, 2011, 06:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Terminology explained for non-root user?

This is now the third place I have posted this so I can try to get some responses. I know I could Google all this, but I would rather have it explained by some of you people who are very smart in this area!

I have not rooted my phone (Original DROID) due to the fact that even with detailed instructions, I can't even get past the part where I download the correct drivers before I actually download the programs to unzip the files that back up my phone before I actually start rooting; I'm that dumb, I guess, but this isn't about that. I don't feel it's worth my time and trouble to learn how to do all of that, and I don't have the money to pay someone. Please don't say "OH, all you need to do is this, so easy, like 5 minutes" and send me some link, thanks but no thanks.

Can someone please simplify what "highly hackable", "unlocked", and "unlocked bootloader" means? Does that apply ONLY to rooting? They say the original Droid is "highly hackable" or words to that effect.

Can't any phone be rooted, as far as Android? They rooted the Bionic before it was even released! Why does all that matter?

And, I guess the Prime is supposed to be "unlocked", or something like that? Does my Droid have a UI of some type? Besides power and control over phone users, why have things like HTC Sense, or MotoBlur? I guess I'm getting lost in the lingo.

I am annoyed daily that I got my Droid June of 2010 so I can't upgrade (without paying full price) until April 2012, so I'm stuck for now. I have plenty of time to find something good. I used to be head over heels for the Bionic, but in person, it was just "OK, the best 4G phone, not amazing". I don't care about the display. As long as it's as high of quality as my Droid but bigger, I'm fine.

Anyhow, what do I need to know as someone who hasn't rooted about what all those terms mean?

Sorry if this is as simple as taking a breath to you guys/gals who are smart in this area. I'm a casual user. I love my Droid, but need/want a faster processor and bigger screen so I don't have to shut off so many apps to avoid lag.

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"hoghly hackable symply means that it is easy to obtain root and keep root acess of the OG droid. "Locked and unlocked bootloader" refers to the software installed in the very core of the phone. the bootloader is akin to the BOIS of a PC. it loads the OS into memory and gets everything moving. The OG Droid has an unlocked bootloader and the kernal (the core files of the OS) can be changed without modification or breaking encription. the later Motorola Droid phones have a locked or encripted bootloader. this means that only Motorola kernals can be flashed onto the phone. this limits the building of custom ROMs. Some extremely talented developers have come up with ways around this and have breathed new live into locked down phones.
As far as Sense, and MOTO Blur, these are User Interfaces they are installed by the phone manufacturer to enhance the user experience. They add features and options that are not built into Android AOSP (Android Open-Soarse Project) Your droid cme out with plane jane AOSP android.

OH, and gaining root access with a locked phone is only half the battle. with root access, you can manipulate the files, but you can also mess things up and make it to where your phone is unusable. with locked software there is security built into the phone that looks for certian file signatures that might have been modified and that would disable the phone.
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So, in other words, bricking is much more likely with a phone that has a locked bootloader once root is obtained?

Also, am I correct in saying that unless I plan to root, Rom, flash kernels, etc, this kind of thing means nothing to me? If I just want a phone that has a faster processor, bigger screen, and 4G, only the hardware, battery, etc type issues affect me?
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So, in other words, bricking is much more likely with a phone that has a locked bootloader once root is obtained?

Also, am I correct in saying that unless I plan to root, Rom, flash kernels, etc, this kind of thing means nothing to me? If I just want a phone that has a faster processor, bigger screen, and 4G, only the hardware, battery, etc type issues affect me?
There are ways around a bricked phone as far as Motorola goes, you can download an app called RSD Lite, and use SBF file to reflash your phone to completely stock OS. when you run into trouble, say with the Bionic, is whne you do not have the SBF file available. if you do "brick" it, it might be a while before you can revive it. as far as the OG droid, I don't think there has been any one yet to truely brick the device software wise, and there have been a lot of people flash the numerous available roms countless times.

And yes,if you don't plan on getting down and dirty with the software on your phone, it is trivial information. although, it might not be a bad idea for you to read up on RSD Lite and SBF files. if you get a lot of apps and junk on your phone it is a true way of wiping it and reinstalling a fresh copy of android back onto your Droid.
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Would RSD lite only apply rooted? I have a couple friends who know how to root, one is too busy and would help me do it for free, the other charges money for it.

What do you say to someone like me who can't even get CLOSE to rooting much less really dive in to ROM's?

I do appreciate your information, thanks so much.
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no, RSD Lite is a Motorola tool used to flash the phone. does not require root access nore does it have to give you root access, it symply a tool to flash software to the phone using windows. although is does require you to install phone drivers onto your PC and install the program onto your pc, then you down;oad the SBF file to use to flash onto your phone. RSD Lite is the same program for all Moto phone, the SBF file varies by phone and software version.
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So is it basically like doing a factory reset? Or "recovery" or a "rescue disk" if it were windows?
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yes, exactly. it reinstalls the software to a factory state like you just took it out of the box.
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I downloaded RSD Lite to my computer, so I guess I don't need it in case I need to do my own "factory reset"?

If I do use it, what do I need to do? Connect my phone to the computer with my cable, and then...?

Good stuff to know just in case.
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