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Old June 4th, 2011, 09:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What's the best thing to do? Reflash it? Or try another? How many of you have had a rom work fine for a while, and then start having problems (like freezing and needing to pull battery on regular basis)? Were you able to keep using the same rom by reflashing?

If I reflash this one, do I wipe EVERYTHING 3x or just data or..??

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What's the best thing to do? Reflash it? Or try another? How many of you have had a rom work fine for a while, and then start having problems (like freezing and needing to pull battery on regular basis)? Were you able to keep using the same rom by reflashing?

If I reflash this one, do I wipe EVERYTHING 3x or just data or..??
Yes I would recommend wiping EVERYTHING 3X... data/cache and dalvik. and then reflash the rom. After you reflash I recommend going here:
ReEnable/Disable Journaling CWM Flashable No Format or Wipe Needed Instant - xda-developers
download ReEnable journaling, put it on your sd card... and just flash it through clockwork, no wipes necessary.
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Yes I would recommend wiping EVERYTHING 3X... data/cache and dalvik. and then reflash the rom. After you reflash I recommend going here:
ReEnable/Disable Journaling CWM Flashable No Format or Wipe Needed Instant - xda-developers
download ReEnable journaling, put it on your sd card... and just flash it through clockwork, no wipes necessary.

100% right on the money as usual tschofield;-) an absolute must imho.
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Thank you. Doing it all now. I sooo hate having to redo everything on my phone, but I don't trust my nandroid backups when I was having issues when I made them.
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What's the best thing to do? Reflash it? Or try another? How many of you have had a rom work fine for a while, and then start having problems (like freezing and needing to pull battery on regular basis)? Were you able to keep using the same rom by reflashing?

If I reflash this one, do I wipe EVERYTHING 3x or just data or..??

Which cwm are you using?
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This one. [MOD][One Click Root] Clockwork Mod version 3.0.0.5/6 - UPDATED FOR EB13! - xda-developers
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You should upgrade to 3.0.2.5, its more stable then the version you're on, less flashing issues and better backups. I haven't any issues since i upgraded. And bonus part of this version is you can go back and forth between rfs and ext4 plus between journaling and non journaling. Heres the link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074324. Hope this helps:-)
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I've never "rooted" an already rooted phone, except when I've bricked my phone and had to odin back to stock... Do I have to odin back to stock and start all over to do this?
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Negative. Its a quick conversion done in cwm. You just flash it just like a rom or kernel.
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Cool. Thanks! Wipe everything first?
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None needed. I would suggest hanging onto the 3.0.0.6 version just in case you decide to start from scratch for whatever reason, for the life of me i could not get the 3.0.2.5 one click to work so i went this route.
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Thanks so much!
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Np, just let me know how it went for you.
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I didn't do it yet, but I have a new problem. Actually, two new problems since I reflashed this rom.

I did not restore data, as a whole, but I did restore a few apps with data, like Angry Birds to keep my scores/progress and Dolphin browser for my bookmarks. If I didn't need data, I downloaded clean from the market. Okay, now that that's out of the way..

Since I reflashed, I have to manually close apps that would normally have closed themselves (the way froyo does it). Now, if I've been on FB, in the browser, in a game, in Handcent, etc, if I got to Task Manager, they are all still running and I have to close them individually, just like the old way on Eclair. Not always, but at least 50% of the time. I think this is part of why my battery life has sucked even worse since this reflash..

And this one is super annoying. You know how media volume isn't linked to ringer volume? So if you turn your phone to silent, "media volume" is still whatever you left it on? Okay...well, I stream my music via bluetooth to my truck's sync. When I get home, I shut truck off and get out, and this automatically pauses DoubleTwist..I don't have to tell it to. (and I go ahead and shut off bluetooth at the same time to save battery). Well, at random after having done this, my phone will just start playing the last song I was on! VERY LOUD since I turn media volume all the way up when I stream bluetooth. What's even weirder is that DoubleTwist does not show up as a running program in Task Manager, AND, if I go into DoubleTwist, it still shows the song is paused! So I have to hit play to even see the pause button to shut it up (because I can't force close it in task manager since it's not there!)

Seriously...that one is weird. And truly annoying, especially when you're on your sofa, deep into a movie, and your phone starts blaring S&M. lol

Edit, on that note, even worse..this could happen in a movie theater. I generally don't even take my phone in, but on occasion I do out of habit.
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I did not restore data, as a whole, but I did restore a few apps with data, like Angry Birds to keep my scores/progress and Dolphin browser for my bookmarks.
You should be fine with doing this. Although, since i dont use dolphin, dolphin should be able to backup its bookmarks to the sd card. I know both miren and xscope do this.
As doubletwist goes, it sounds like either a bad install of it or a glitch in the program itself.
The programs not shutting down properly is part of 2.2:-( i see that all the time with my phone and have to do the same as well. But unless they are using data constantly they should sit idle in the background until used again or until android closes it out because it needs the memory.
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The problem with Double Twist is that it'll just start blaring a song, but when I pick my phone up, double twist isn't even "on." It's not in the Task Manager at all when it does this. I even left it playing to see..nothing. I have to open the app, push play, even though it is playing, so that the icon will switch to pause. THEN I can shut it up. Because if it's not showing up on Task Manager, I can't just tell it to close, thus stopping the music.

Now when I'm done streaming, I make sure DoubleTwist is fully closed manually.

As for apps still running in the background, DT is not one of them. It'll usually be Dolphin, Words w Friends, Go SMS, whatever else I tinker with. Like this morning..the only two apps I have used today are Go SMS and Words w Friends, and both are still showing up in "active applications" in tast manager.



The most troubling thing is that I'm still getting the biggest problem I had before the fresh flash. Soft keys light up but nothing else and I have to battery pull.
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What rom are you now using? And also i would imagine you are journaling enabled too after all the other issues.
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Midnight. Syndicate bricked my phone once a week. Midnight is my second rom on this phone. I also did the journaling on zip that was posted in this thread. Did everything you guys said except I haven't taken the time to download and flash that other cwm.
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Ok, thats what i thought but didnt know if you tried another rom or kernel. Do you live or work in bad reception area by chance? That, as i found out this weekend camping, will kill your battery in a quick hurry. Otherwise i would suggest flashing the new cwm 3.1.0.1, and either reflashing midnight again or try another rom or even try flashing the genocide kernel. The new cwm is suppose to cut down on the amount of bad flashes because the way it mounts the system has been updated and corrected.
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Yes on the poor reception thing, but I wasn't complaing about battery life anywhere..??

I'm not going to reflash anything because I'm getting a new phone soon. I can't stand having to redo everything..
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Yes on the poor reception thing, but I wasn't complaing about battery life anywhere..??

I'm not going to reflash anything because I'm getting a new phone soon. I can't stand having to redo everything..

Sorry my bad on battery life, was going off of faulty memory and trying not to clutter post with long quote from mobile app which makes it difficult to edit the quoted area. Unfortunately with the way that samsung/sprint has handled this phone the only real way to get our phones to reach somewhat of its potential and fix alot of silly issues is to root, and with that comes the extra bs sometimes as not all of our phones are alike. And i can completely understand not wanting to redo your phone because something is wonky. Best of luck to you and your new phone.
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Thank you. I just wish we had CM7. I would try it right now!

The only issue i"m having that actually interferes with functionality is the deal where the soft keys light up but no screen. Occasionally, I can just let it sit for a few minutes and try again, and it will work, but 90% of the time, I'm having to pull the battery. With the newest flash, it's only been 2-3 times. It was almost daily before.

If I could fix just that one issue, I'd be happy.
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Actually, I don't have a lot to do today, so I'm going to download that clockworkmod that was posted. To see any improvement, would I have to reflash the rom? I just might do it, this one time..
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Thank you. I just wish we had CM7. I would try it right now!

The only issue i"m having that actually interferes with functionality is the deal where the soft keys light up but no screen. Occasionally, I can just let it sit for a few minutes and try again, and it will work, but 90% of the time, I'm having to pull the battery. With the newest flash, it's only been 2-3 times. It was almost daily before.

If I could fix just that one issue, I'd be happy.

Do you mean its not waking properly? If that's the case, it may be that under clocking too low... do you use setcpu?
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Yes I do, but it's not set. I set it a while back, but after a couple of new flashes, I don't think I ever reset it. I know I haven't even opened the app since my last flash of Midnight, and like I said, at least twice I've had to pull the battery bc of this.

Default appears to be 1000 max 200 min.
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Yes I do, but it's not set. I set it a while back, but after a couple of new flashes, I don't think I ever reset it. I know I haven't even opened the app since my last flash of Midnight, and like I said, at least twice I've had to pull the battery bc of this.

Default appears to be 1000 max 200 min.

I just flashed srf 1.1.1
I had been running midnight most of the time. With srf, its recommend to set up a conservative profile with screen off at a min of 200. I run mine @ 200/600... otherwise it has troubles waking. This may be your issue. I never had a problem with midnight, but I (by chance) kept the settings the same for that.
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Why 600 max?

SRF bricked my phone. Repeatedly. I am quite familiar with Odin now.
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Why 600 max?

SRF bricked my phone. Repeatedly. I am quite familiar with Odin now.

Odin has saved me also! Know the feeling. 600 max is just for the screen off profile. Run it 200/1300 otherwise. The old srf didn't like my phone either. The new one has been ok so far. Midnight has always been solid though.
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Ohhh now I see what you're talking about. I never got that much into it. But I can't get 600. It jumps from 400 to 800.
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Ohhh now I see what you're talking about. I never got that much into it. But I can't get 600. It jumps from 400 to 800.

Go with 800 then. The kernel for srf allows 600, so I set my screen off profile to conservative 200/600. 200/800 is what I ran on midnight I believe.
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There's a "smartass" setting in mine. LOL

I set it to 800 for screen off. I also flashed that other cwm. We shall see. Thanks for all the help, guys. I really don't want to try other roms. It's frustrating.
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There's a "smartass" setting in mine. LOL

I set it to 800 for screen off. I also flashed that other cwm. We shall see. Thanks for all the help, guys. I really don't want to try other roms. It's frustrating.

I say to myself sometimes all of this for a damn phone! Lol I turned my frustration with this phone into a hobby now so flashing roms and stuff dont bother me, but i can understand your frustration because thats how it was at the beginning for me.
The new cwm will only come into play if you reflash the rom. Hopefully you wont have to though. And sometimes just flashing the rom without wipes works for correcting bad file during previous flash. Oh, and since you have flashed the new cwm you may want to make a fresh backup in it just in case.
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I actually just created a backup.

And I would totally be "into" flashing all sorts of roms if I didn't have such a terrible experience with SRF. I can't have a bricked phone. It was so bad that I was afraid to go out of town for the weekend without my laptop in case I needed Odin.
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Why 600 max?

SRF bricked my phone. Repeatedly. I am quite familiar with Odin now.
I've never used the SRF ROM, but I use their TWZ Kernel (1.1.0) with no issues.

And not to split hairs, but if you've been able to use Odin, then your phone was never technically "bricked". If it was truly bricked, Odin would do nothing.
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I actually just created a backup.

And I would totally be "into" flashing all sorts of roms if I didn't have such a terrible experience with SRF. I can't have a bricked phone. It was so bad that I was afraid to go out of town for the weekend without my laptop in case I needed Odin.

The smart ass setting is used in Bonsai's kernel
Which Rob used in his Midnight ROMs
I would say give the new Bonsai 4.1.1 a try. One of the most stable ROMs with journaling off I've run, not a single random or forced reboot while running it
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I've never used the SRF ROM, but I use their TWZ Kernel (1.1.0) with no issues.

And not to split hairs, but if you've been able to use Odin, then your phone was never technically "bricked". If it was truly bricked, Odin would do nothing.

Okay..."soft brick." Either way, I had a completely useless phone, and the only thing it WOULD do was let me odin. That is not a desirable feature in a rom.
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It's doing it again. Soft keys light up but no screen on.
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It's doing it again. Soft keys light up but no screen on.

I still say give bonsai a try your getting a new phone soon so what you gonna lose
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The rom you mean? I might.

BTW, when I pull the battery and start the phone back up, it's VERY fast waking. Frustrating..why can't it be that way all the time?!
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Old June 17th, 2011, 12:38 AM   #40 (permalink)
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It's doing it again. Soft keys light up but no screen on.
You said you're using SetCPU, right? Make sure Scaling is set to "ondemand" and "Set on Boot" is checked. I have mine set for 1300 max 200 min.

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Screen Off - Priority: 51 - 800 max 200 min
Battery < 34% - Priority: 50 - 800 max 200 min
Charging AC - Priority: 49 - 1000 max 200 min
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The rom you mean? I might.

BTW, when I pull the battery and start the phone back up, it's VERY fast waking. Frustrating..why can't it be that way all the time?!
Yes the ROM. Bonsai 4.1.1 is one of the most stable ROMs with journaling off that I've run lately Not one forced reboot that was the phones fault
Now I've tweaked and messed with it and made it freeze lol but that's because my doing
I would totally give it a try If you want you could even Odin back to stock and use there wonderful unlocker to reroot and get the bonsai recovery on there. Rooting couldn't be easier than their unlocker. Wonderful interface and its only one file you download to root with
After you run it it's like a windows installer for a new program lol
best way to describe it
Takes you step by step on your phone and computer what to do and its easy peasy

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You said you're using SetCPU, right? Make sure Scaling is set to "ondemand" and "Set on Boot" is checked. I have mine set for 1300 max 200 min.

My profile settings are:

Screen Off - Priority: 51 - 800 max 200 min
Battery < 34% - Priority: 50 - 800 max 200 min
Charging AC - Priority: 49 - 1000 max 200 min
You can run it at on demand as long as your not using the new Twilight 1.1.1 kernel. If you are using the Twilight kernel you must have it set to conservative not ondemand. Otherwise you will get wake lock issues.
But if you try bonsai no worries
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You can run it at on demand as long as your not using the new Twilight 1.1.1 kernel. If you are using the Twilight kernel you must have it set to conservative not ondemand. Otherwise you will get wake lock issues.
But if you try bonsai no worries
I've been using those settings with TWZ 1.1.0 with stock ROM and no issues. What advantage would I get by switching to the conservative governor?
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I've been using those settings with TWZ 1.1.0 with stock ROM and no issues. What advantage would I get by switching to the conservative governor?

Not for you the newest twilight version 1.1.1 doesnt work with the ondemand setting and will give your phone wake lock or the sleep of death however you want to call it. So leaveyours as is
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I'm running Bonsai 4.0.1 kernel right now.

I thought it was not advised to select "set on boot" until/unless you were sure your phone liked the settings? Mine doesn't seem to!

200 min 1200 max, conservative, and profile "screen off" at 200/800. I'll change scaling to "ondemand" and see if that fixes it.
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Not for you the newest twilight version 1.1.1 doesnt work with the ondemand setting and will give your phone wake lock or the sleep of death however you want to call it. So leaveyours as is
I know TW 1.1.1 was released as part of SFR 1.1.1 and I downloaded just the kernel part of it but haven't installed it. Other than including CWM3, the only thing that was listed as different was this:

"Twilight Zone has custom undervolts using Voltage Control
Twilight Zone features optimizations from 2.6.34, and many optimizations for the Cortex A8"

What are the "features optimizations"? Tanimn hasn't released an official version of this kernel (as far as I can find), so there is no change log.
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