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Old September 25th, 2011, 10:27 AM   #951 (permalink)
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Thanks so much for your help. I do have another question regarding Xtrasense. I just don't notice any difference in speed. I also keep getting an error message "The process com.google.process.gapps has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again." I can't connect to the app market but I can connect to internet using Dolphin browser.
Just to ask the question, did you wipe data/factory reset from the wipe menu in Amon-RA recovery before you restarted the phone after installing xtrSENSE? If not, go back and do this again. You should not be seeing these error messages.

Oh, one other thing to anybody who may be reading this thread:

DO NOT INSTALL KAOS FROYO!

I'm not sure why people always pick that one, but you really have to know what you are doing to get it to work right, and at this point, with great Gingerbread ROMs like CondemnedSoul's CM7 ROM, in my not-so-humble opinion, there is absolutely no reason at all to run KF. Absolutely none. There are even better Froyo ROMs than KF.

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I have AppMonster, I was hoping to move my apps to the SD card, which is new. It says they are moved there but I didn't see a increase in my phone's memory. It says it backed up the apps to the SD card but I see my SD card as almost full, except for 2 photos I transferred there.
Ok, here is one thing that is cool about xtrSENSE: because of a feature called cache2cache, there is a lot more room for apps than on stock Eris. In fact, with a minimal number of apps installed in stock and xtrSENSE - the same apps, with the same data - stock leaves me with just over 20 MB storage free, while xtrSENSE leaves me with over 80 MB. [edit - make that over 100 MB.]. It is a dramatic difference.

After you do the wipe data and reinstall your apps, go into the settings app, SD card & phone storage, and report back how much internal phone storage is left. If you are well over 30 MB, you should be all set.

If not, there is a procedure that you can go through in xtrSENSE that will move all of your apps to your SD card, but there is a long, involved process that requires backing up your SD card, using Recovery to partition it, changing a setting in xtrSENSE and restarting your phone to get it to happen. It's not all that difficult to do, really, but you will have a lot more flexibility to install other custom ROMs if you can work without moving apps to SD, because most of the Gingerbread ROMs will not mount an SD card with more than one partition on it.

(By the way, partitioning your SD card means that you create multiple disk drives on your SD card, instead of the default single partition.)

Also, I think that you are misunderstanding what AppMonster does. It allows you to back up and restore apps to and from your SD card, but not actually move apps to SD.

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Go is a good launcher. It shouldn't make that much of a difference.

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Thanks so much for your help. I do have another question regarding Xtrasense. I just don't notice any difference in speed. I also keep getting an error message "The process com.google.process.gapps has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again." I can't connect to the app market but I can connect to internet using Dolphin browser.
I have AppMonster, I was hoping to move my apps to the SD card, which is new. It says they are moved there but I didn't see a increase in my phone's memory. It says it backed up the apps to the SD card but I see my SD card as almost full, except for 2 photos I transferred there.
I'm also using Go Launcher. I like it but would it make a difference to use a different one?

Again thanks for your help. I'm just so happy my phone is up and running again
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No problem, happy to help .

I think you might want to start a new, separate thread with some of your new questions since your out of the woods, boot-loop wise. But I'll take a quick stab at a few of them.

edit: Oh, I forgot about your speed question. xtrSENSE is, I believe overclocked to 710MHz by default. This should give you a nice, subtle bump in speed and make the overall ROM smooth and responsive, without sacrificing battery life.

Not sure what is going on with the Google apps (gapps) errors you are getting. I'm guessing that it might have to do with the (fairly) recent changes Google has made to the Market and Gmail, etc. I don't know if there's a more recent version of the Google apps available that you could flash... Its been a while since I've flashed xtrSENSE, so I'm not really up on the current issues there might be with it (here's the link on XDA in case others are reporting this, too: [ROM][GPL][3/15/2011] xtrSENSE5.0.1 [cache2cache,apps2sd,oc,jit]-HTC Sense - xda-developers).

I'm not familiar with AppMonster, but I'm guessing that its an alternative market or similar to AppBrain.

Re. the phone memory question, I think that since xtrSENSE uses cache2cache to give you more space for apps.

Anyway, start a new thread and you'll get a few more responses from the guys who are more familiar with your questions than I.

Cheers and good luck!

edit: I see doogald is on-line and posted a reply...take your cues from him--he'll be able to guide you best re. this.
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Just to ask the question, did you wipe data/factory reset from the wipe menu in Amon-RA recovery before you restarted the phone after installing xtrSENSE? If not, go back and do this again. You should not be seeing these error messages.

Oh, one other thing to anybody who may be reading this thread:

DO NOT INSTALL KAOS FROYO!

I'm not sure why people always pick that one, but you really have to know what you are doing to get it to work right, and at this point, with great Gingerbread ROMs like CondemnedSoul's CM7 ROM, in my not-so-humble opinion, there is absolutely no reason at all to run KF. Absolutely none. There are even better Froyo ROMs than KF.



Ok, here is one thing that is cool about xtrSENSE: because of a feature called cache2cache, there is a lot more room for apps than on stock Eris. In fact, with a minimal number of apps installed in stock and xtrSENSE - the same apps, with the same data - stock leaves me with just over 20 MB storage free, while xtrSENSE leaves me with over 80 MB. [edit - make that over 100 MB.]. It is a dramatic difference.

After you do the wipe data and reinstall your apps, go into the settings app, SD card & phone storage, and report back how much internal phone storage is left. If you are well over 30 MB, you should be all set.

If not, there is a procedure that you can go through in xtrSENSE that will move all of your apps to your SD card, but there is a long, involved process that requires backing up your SD card, using Recovery to partition it, changing a setting in xtrSENSE and restarting your phone to get it to happen. It's not all that difficult to do, really, but you will have a lot more flexibility to install other custom ROMs if you can work without moving apps to SD, because most of the Gingerbread ROMs will not mount an SD card with more than one partition on it.

(By the way, partitioning your SD card means that you create multiple disk drives on your SD card, instead of the default single partition.)

Also, I think that you are misunderstanding what AppMonster does. It allows you to back up and restore apps to and from your SD card, but not actually move apps to SD.



Go is a good launcher. It shouldn't make that much of a difference.
Thanks! I didn't do a factory reset, went back and did it and set up google. It worked. I'll have to look into all the settings to see if I have more mbs. So does any program actually move apps to the SD card? I'm just wondering what it's for then? Just photos?
I'm busy with kids now and gotta go. Thanks again
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By default, no. As I said, there is a way, but the design of Android as of the Eris's version 2.1 did not yet allow moving apps to SD using standard software.

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Personal data, yes. Well, many software apps store settings and such on the SD card.

But, truly the only reason to move apps to SD is because you have so many apps that you are running out of space. Even on Froyo and Gingerbread - where there is a standard method of moving apps to the SD card - you cannot move all apps, particularly apps that use home screen widgets.

So, if you have plenty of space in internal storage on your phone, I'd suggest not even bothering with apps2sd.
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I just want to say thanks again for all your help. I was really scared I wouldn't be able to recover my phone. I feel like the phone is more responsive now.
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Glad to help. And, if you really want to play around with apps2sd and have some time, you can try installing CondemnedSoul's CM7 ROM, which is a vanilla Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) based ROM.

It's here: [ROM] 9/18/11 Condemned CM7 V18.3 (2.3.5) - xda-developers

If you are going to try it out, just make sure to do these steps:

- copy that .zip file to your SD card, just as you did with KaosFroyo and xtrSENSE

- restart the phone in Recovery
-backup/restore menu
- Nand backup (this will allow you to restore xtrSENSE later if you wish, just as it exists now)
- back up to the main menu
- wipe menu
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe Dalvik cache
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- install a zip from SD card
- choose the CS CM7 zip file
- after install, reboot

This will work just fine - better than KF.
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Hey Guys,

It's been a long time since I've been here. XTR has been good to me, but it's time for me to upgrade.

My questions (my apologies if there is a thread for this):

1. Do I need to unroot my eris before upgrading through the Verizon store?
2. Will the data transfer done at Verizon harm my new phone coming from a rooted phone?

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Hey Guys,

It's been a long time since I've been here. XTR has been good to me, but it's time for me to upgrade.

My questions (my apologies if there is a thread for this):

1. Do I need to unroot my eris before upgrading through the Verizon store?
As somebody who has not upgraded their Eris yet, take this with a grain of salt, but I cannot see why you would have to.


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Hmmm, this is a different question. If you are using Google contacts (presumably, that is all that Verizon would be transferring from your old phone), they will automatically get re-synced to your new phone. Also, all new phones (I think...) will install all of your current apps when you log in to your Google account at set-up and activation.

If you have just phone contacts, and you are running xtrSENSE or xtrROM, it should be upgradable for sure. With xtrSENSE, I am not sure that they would even notice.

Do the stores even offer this as a service anymore?

Anyway, one thing that you could do is to use the application MyBackup Pro (it is a paid application - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro&feature =search_result ) to backup your data to the SD card and then pop that SD into your new phone, reinstall MyBackup Pro on the new phone (since you already paid for it, you will not be charged again) and restore the data, such as contacts and SMS messages, that you may want to bring over to the new phone.

But, perhaps we should wait for an old-hand upgrader like ScaryAlien to let us know for sure...
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Thanks! I changed to XTR Sense last night - ha! I'm sure it will all be fine. I'm considering taking the Bionic plunge! My upgrade is next week and my poor little Eris is shutting down whenever it feels like it. Time for a new phone.

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Quick question....
I don't necessarily have to have a ROM loaded and on standby do I? I could just root the phone and do a Nandroid backup without following the ROM flashing instructions for now, correct?

Then just reboot the phone and use as normal until I find a ROM I want to flash...

Am I correct in my thinking?

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I don't necessarily have to have a ROM loaded and on standby do I? I could just root the phone and do a Nandroid backup without following the ROM flashing instructions for now, correct?

Then just reboot the phone and use as normal until I find a ROM I want to flash...

Am I correct in my thinking?

Thanks....
That's correct.

This method doesn't even touch (or even "root") the OS, but only installs a custom recovery boot.

What you do from that point forward is entirely up to you... which is the whole point of "having root"

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We've come such a long way! I flashed CM the other day to my Eris to give the kids a Droid to play on and it was so easy and effortless. (I still got lightheaded!)
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Root for Dummies, just what I needed. I installed the Plain Jane ROM. I also downloaded the fonts.zip and unbloat.zip (not exact file names, they were on the same page as the Plain Jane 2.0). Dummy questions: How do I install or run these files/programs?

Second dummy question, should I be using Plain Jane 2.0, or is there a more recent ROM? Also, the phone keeps saying there's an update - is this a system update from Verizon that I'm being prompted to install, or is Plain Jane telling me there's a more recent OS and I should be updating the OS?

(I just bought a used Eris when my Droid died - I'm 6 months from being able to get a new phone.)

My sole purpose for rooting is to run Open Garden (which I was using on the Droid) so that I can tether my laptop to my phone when I need to use my laptop and don't have internet access (which is what I'm doing *right now*). I don't need fancy bells and whistles, just a working ROM that lets my phone operate without bugs, and lets me use Open Garden.

Thanks TONS for all your help.

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Root for Dummies, just what I needed. I installed the Plain Jane ROM. I also downloaded the fonts.zip and unbloat.zip (not exact file names, they were on the same page as the Plain Jane 2.0). Dummy questions: How do I install or run these files/programs?

Second dummy question, should I be using Plain Jane 2.0, or is there a more recent ROM? Also, the phone keeps saying there's an update - is this a system update from Verizon that I'm being prompted to install, or is Plain Jane telling me there's a more recent OS and I should be updating the OS?

(I just bought a used Eris when my Droid died - I'm 6 months from being able to get a new phone.)

My sole purpose for rooting is to run Open Garden (which I was using on the Droid) so that I can tether my laptop to my phone when I need to use my laptop and don't have internet access (which is what I'm doing *right now*). I don't need fancy bells and whistles, just a working ROM that lets my phone operate without bugs, and lets me use Open Garden.

Thanks TONS for all your help.

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Welcome to the world of rooted Eris. Plain Jane is a fairly outdated ROM at this point. The system update is from Verizon, but it will not install with the custom recovery (Amon_Ra) installed on your device. If you want a stock Eris ROM, I would use xtrSense as it incorporates the system update from Verizon and uses cache2cache which will give you plenty of room for apps without having to move them to the sdcard. I've never heard of Open Garden, but I know xtrSense allows you to use wireless tether, so I don't think it will be a problem.
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Welcome to the world of rooted Eris. Plain Jane is a fairly outdated ROM at this point. The system update is from Verizon, but it will not install with the custom recovery (Amon_Ra) installed on your device. If you want a stock Eris ROM, I would use xtrSense as it incorporates the system update from Verizon and uses cache2cache which will give you plenty of room for apps without having to move them to the sdcard. I've never heard of Open Garden, but I know xtrSense allows you to use wireless tether, so I don't think it will be a problem.
To add to this, if you decide to try a different ROM, be sure to make a Nandroid backup of what you have now first. Since it seems everything is working the way you need it to, you want to make sure that you can easily go back to the way it is now if something doesn't work right.

If you really want the latest and greatest, forget Eclair. Skip right over Froyo (which never ran right on the Eris) and go right to Gingerbread.
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Welcome to the world of rooted Eris. Plain Jane is a fairly outdated ROM at this point. The system update is from Verizon, but it will not install with the custom recovery (Amon_Ra) installed on your device. If you want a stock Eris ROM, I would use xtrSense as it incorporates the system update from Verizon and uses cache2cache which will give you plenty of room for apps without having to move them to the sdcard. I've never heard of Open Garden, but I know xtrSense allows you to use wireless tether, so I don't think it will be a problem.
I agree with this 100%. PlainJane is outdated at this point; xtrSENSE is a better choice.

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To add to this, if you decide to try a different ROM, be sure to make a Nandroid backup of what you have now first. Since it seems everything is working the way you need it to, you want to make sure that you can easily go back to the way it is now if something doesn't work right.

If you really want the latest and greatest, forget Eclair. Skip right over Froyo (which never ran right on the Eris) and go right to Gingerbread.
While I agree with this for me, there is no doubt that the stock Eclair custom ROMs are the most compatible with the Eris. Everything runs as designed, and there is no tweaking necessary to get it running well. With even the up-to-date GB ROMs, you do have to change some settings, etc., to get the phone to run well. I don't mind, but some may.

I like the GB ROMs mostly because they give me the updated GMail app from Google, which does not run in Android 2.1.

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Root for Dummies, just what I needed. I installed the Plain Jane ROM. I also downloaded the fonts.zip and unbloat.zip (not exact file names, they were on the same page as the Plain Jane 2.0). Dummy questions: How do I install or run these files/programs?
Ok, to answer this question, this is what you would do:

- shut down the phone
- restart in Recovery by holding VolUp while you power up the phone
- Go to Backup/restore
- Nand backup
- Press VolDn to go back to the main menu when this completes
- Flash a zip from SD card
- Choose one of the .zip files that you downloaded
- Restart the phone to verify that all is working

Repeat for each of the zip files that you downloaded. The Nand backup step may seem excessive, but it's probably better to backup more often than less often.

Lastly, if you are going to switch to xtrSENSE, these .zip files may not work. (They may - I never tried them.) However, xtrSENSE does include an application called GScript that includes the files that you need to do some de-bloating.

Best of luck, and let us know if you have any other questions.
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Just wanted to give out a huge thanks to everyone who had a hand in making this rooting method for the Eris so simple and easy for "noobs" out there trying to get an idea of what this is all about! I just successfully rooted my Eris (that I am using since my OG Droid quit and while I wait for the GNEX!) with xtrSENSE and like it so far. For being my first time rooting, it could not have been easier, thanks again!
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Just wanted to give out a huge thanks to everyone who had a hand in making this rooting method for the Eris so simple and easy for "noobs" out there trying to get an idea of what this is all about! I just successfully rooted my Eris (that I am using since my OG Droid quit and while I wait for the GNEX!) with xtrSENSE and like it so far. For being my first time rooting, it could not have been easier, thanks again!
Welcome to the AndroidForums, moto57!

Yeah, the guys and gals in here have been awesome (especially the author of this thread).

You picked an excellent, stable ROM in xtrSENSE. Also, there's still some awesome devs that still work on their ROMs and keep the wheels spinning. So, keep checking back in this area.

Cheers and hope to see you around!
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I definitely wanted a stable ROM for my first since I don't know a whole lot about this stuff yet. However, if I do decide to go on to a different ROM to get a newer "look," what would you recommend? This Eris is going to be my sort-of test baby, if you will, so I am not too terribly worried about rendering it useless (although I do need it to last me until the GNEX comes out). I like the ICS look of this ROM, [ROM][11/16/2011] GSB v4.2 - ICS-ish | CM7.1 [2.3.7 GingerBread] - xda-developers, and word on it? Thanks a lot!
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I definitely wanted a stable ROM for my first since I don't know a whole lot about this stuff yet. However, if I do decide to go on to a different ROM to get a newer "look," what would you recommend? This Eris is going to be my sort-of test baby, if you will, so I am not too terribly worried about rendering it useless (although I do need it to last me until the GNEX comes out). I like the ICS look of this ROM, [ROM][11/16/2011] GSB v4.2 - ICS-ish | CM7.1 [2.3.7 GingerBread] - xda-developers, and word on it? Thanks a lot!
Well, I'm not the big ROM flasher like a lot of folks are (still running xtrSENSE myself), but I can tell you that these guys are highly thought of:

CondemnedSoul's Condemned CM7:

condemned cm7

[ROM] 11/19/11 Condemned CM 7.1 V21 (2.3.7) Splashed with ICS - xda-developers

workshed's GSB (as you've already linked):

GingerShedBread/GSB

[ROM][11/16/2011] GSB v4.2 - ICS-ish | CM7.1 [2.3.7 GingerBread] - xda-developers

Also, MongooseHelix is still active here and over at XDA and does excellent work:

Droid Eris Android Development - xda-developers

I would just make sure you make your Nandroid backups (so you can restore if need be) and try some of 'em out. Be sure to follow the dev's installation instructions carefully (there's sometimes extra things to flash like Google apps, etc.).

Browse around here and over at XDA and you'll get a good/better feel for what folks are using and what their experiences are.

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Well, I'm not the big ROM flasher like a lot of folks are (still running xtrSENSE myself), but I can tell you that these guys are highly thought of:

CondemnedSoul's Condemned CM7:

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[ROM] 11/19/11 Condemned CM 7.1 V21 (2.3.7) Splashed with ICS - xda-developers

workshed's GSB (as you've already linked):

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[ROM][11/16/2011] GSB v4.2 - ICS-ish | CM7.1 [2.3.7 GingerBread] - xda-developers

Also, MongooseHelix is still active here and over at XDA and does excellent work:

Droid Eris Android Development - xda-developers

I would just make sure you make your Nandroid backups (so you can restore if need be) and try some of 'em out. Be sure to follow the dev's installation instructions carefully (there's sometimes extra things to flash like Google apps, etc.).

Browse around here and over at XDA and you'll get a good/better feel for what folks are using and what their experiences are.

Good luck!
+1 to all of this.

CM7 stands for CyanogenMod Version 7, or Android Gingerbread 2.3.x; CyanogenMod is a team of developers creating stock Android custom ROMs for multiple devices. Again, most require the download and flash of a separate google apps zip file right after you flash the ROM zip file and before you restart the phone. The first post in an xda-developers thread will tell you if the separate flash is required.
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Thanks again, guys. So when I go to flash one of these ROMS, the GSB ROM specifically, I will just follow the instructions posted there and that is it? Coming from xtrSENSE, there shouldn't be anything else I need to do that is sort of "common knowledge" to those who really know what there doing and just goes unsaid in the thread? I just want to make sure I get everything figured out before doing another ROM, this first one went so easy I want to make the next as painless as possible! Thanks for the help, you guys are great!
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Thanks again, guys. So when I go to flash one of these ROMS, the GSB ROM specifically, I will just follow the instructions posted there and that is it? Coming from xtrSENSE, there shouldn't be anything else I need to do that is sort of "common knowledge" to those who really know what there doing and just goes unsaid in the thread? I just want to make sure I get everything figured out before doing another ROM, this first one went so easy I want to make the next as painless as possible! Thanks for the help, you guys are great!
See doogald's post #956 above (Universal Eris Root for Dummies!) where he outlines the typical steps you follow when flashing a ROM, replacing the ROM name with the one you are selecting, of course .

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Gahh, I even knew that was there, just read it yesterday! Ha. Thanks!
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Gahh, I even knew that was there, just read it yesterday! Ha. Thanks!
LOL / no problem...yeah, doogald has (with seemingly infinite patience) repeated and re-written that in countless threads...hmmm, maybe we should put that process right in the main root sticky guide, eh? [I'll do that later, if I remember].

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Thanks again, guys. So when I go to flash one of these ROMS, the GSB ROM specifically, I will just follow the instructions posted there and that is it? Coming from xtrSENSE, there shouldn't be anything else I need to do that is sort of "common knowledge" to those who really know what there doing and just goes unsaid in the thread? I just want to make sure I get everything figured out before doing another ROM, this first one went so easy I want to make the next as painless as possible! Thanks for the help, you guys are great!
Just remember that GSB requires flashing the google apps .zip file that you also need to download. If you read the thread carefully, you'll see a download link for it toward the bottom. That does add a step; so it's (condensed):

- Start Recovery
- Nandroid Backup
- Wipe Factory
- Wipe Dalvik
- Flash GSB
- Flash Google apps
- Restart

A few other quick pointers:

- after you set up things for the first time, go into settings->CyanogenMod Settings->Performance->Lock home in memory

- If you use many apps, you probably want to flash a third file, by Zach.xtr (who created xtrSENSE, if that wasn't obvious), which moves data cache files to another storage location on the phone to give more space for apps and data. That download is here: [SCRIPT][1/22/2011] A Simple Cache2Cache for CM 6.x and 7.x ROMs - xda-developers , at the bottom of the first post.

You can flash that zip file after you flash Google apps, just to make things quicker.

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I like the GB ROMs mostly because they give me the updated GMail app from Google, which does not run in Android 2.1.
Can you tell me what features you get with the updated GMail app, or point me to a resource to learn the differences between the various GMail app versions? I am a pretty heavy gmail user on my phone (several accounts) and have major dislikes about the app I was using on the Droid, and the app on the Plain Jane for the Eris. I don't have the time to do a lot of config or tweaking of the OS/ROM and prefer to avoid that unless it's going to get me something a lot better than what I could get with a faster install.

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Can you tell me what features you get with the updated GMail app, or point me to a resource to learn the differences between the various GMail app versions? I am a pretty heavy gmail user on my phone (several accounts) and have major dislikes about the app I was using on the Droid, and the app on the Plain Jane for the Eris.
Whew. Let's see if I can remember:

- support for the "Important" label/Priority inbox - you can mark/unmark messages as important easily

- notification by label - so you can separate ringtones, vibration for individual mail labels, including Important. You can also have each notification be fired once until you clear (the standard behavior with the 2.1 client) or fire off for each message that you receive. For example, I have a separate vibration alert for the Priority inbox, so I can tell when I hear the thing fire off that one has arrived

- the reply/forward/star are easier to access when you are reading messages, and you can switch between reply/reply all/forward when composing messages. For example, with the 2.1 client, if you get a wide HTML message, the control to star is located where you have to scroll right to find it, at the top of the display. With the new gmail, that control is always the width of the display, and always stays at the top as you scroll through a message.

- ability to always show images from particular senders

- you can copy/cut from gmail messages

- better support for multiple Gmail accounts, including ability to have different notification alerts by account


Google has a boring looking help area for the Android Gmail app: Gmail app for Android - Google Mobile Help
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With the megaupload servers taken down the gscript.zip file containing the script necessary is no longer available NOTICE

If anyone still has a copy, it would be nice to have so I can complete this work on an Eris with a bad trackball that a friend just gave me to use as a backup phone and fun thing to mess around with.


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I've attached it (that is, the gscript.zip file)...
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Thanks for that, doogald!

I'll update eu1's first post here to link to this post so folks know where they can still download if needed.

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With that script and the Recovery that was altered so it could be controlled without using the trackball to scroll down, I got GSB's latest ROM installed and I am now using the little monster Eris on WiFi-only with Google Music to access my cloud-stored music.

This is a pretty nice device for use as a portable music player. I don't know if Google Music 4.0.9 will run on it, but 3.0.1 is working fine !

You guys really helped me out. Too bad about MegaUpload being taken down, the file that was hosted there was not infringing on anything, but its lost now. Except for you guys !

I might try to replace my messed up trackball with one from a Blackberry, they are cheap, but it is so rarely necessary to scroll down with it. Plus I don't know for sure whether its the ball itself that has failed (cleaned it up and its spinning the magnets fine) or the sensor and flex cable (expensive).

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Does anyone know if this is still the valid way to root the Droid Eris. It's a huge thread, so I haven't read every page just yet. Thanks.
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Welcome to the AndroidForums, pilotjp .

Yep, this method should still work great! The first several posts are what you'll need.

There is also a 1-click app available (Universal 1 Click Eris App Apk - No PCs, No Scripts Needed, EASY) which uses the same exploit as this method, but it leaves-out a lot of the excellent detail and images that eu1 included in this thread.

Good luck and glad you signed-up with us here at AF .
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I finally took the jump and rooted my Eris using this easy method. I was nervous at the idea of rooting, but everything is working fine so far. Thank you so much for this helpful guide!
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Welcome to the other side.

There's another member with the same avatar and when I seen it I was thinking what he doing in here, he doesn't have an Eris.
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Yeah, that's Dark Jedi...I've seen him around, too .
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Big thanks to the contributors of this thread!

I was able to root and flash a new rom last night, with only (1) minor hiccup, which I could have avoided had I read through the entire instructions a couple of more times.

I had downloaded xtrSENSE to my computer, but thought I was doing myself a favor by unzipping it before copying onto my phone's sdcard, doh!

So I got to the step where I was searching for the correct zip file to flash (near the end of the process), and the only zip file that showed up was the gscript one lol.

Luckily I was able to just power off the phone, remove the sd card and put it in my laptop's sd slot, copy just the xtrSENSE ZIP file over, re-install it in the phone and boot by holding vol. up+end. Then when I searched the xtrSENSE file was able to flash.

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Big thanks to the contributors of this thread!

I was able to root and flash a new rom last night, with only (1) minor hiccup, which I could have avoided had I read through the entire instructions a couple of more times.

I had downloaded xtrSENSE to my computer, but thought I was doing myself a favor by unzipping it before copying onto my phone's sdcard, doh!

So I got to the step where I was searching for the correct zip file to flash (near the end of the process), and the only zip file that showed up was the gscript one lol.

Luckily I was able to just power off the phone, remove the sd card and put it in my laptop's sd slot, copy just the xtrSENSE ZIP file over, re-install it in the phone and boot by holding vol. up+end. Then when I searched the xtrSENSE file was able to flash.

Other than that, it was a harmless and quick procedure. Thanks again!
Welcome to the AndroidForums, aeschtl .

Its also good to know that there are still folks out there that need this information and that they hard work put into creating it (by eu1) is still appreciated.

There's still a few of us Eris or former Eris folks who frequent here, so you're not alone.

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Newbe inquiries: I want to root an HTC Eris and I realize this thread started about two years ago--are the instructions still current? I have download the applications suggested, but have still not found a working link to download PlaneJane--or should I be downloading something newer? Thanks for any tips.
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Pilot2, welcome to the AndroidForums!

Yep, this thread still rocks--even two years later!

Yeah, you'll probably want to use something else besides PlaneJane--that's a pretty old, early, vanilla ROM.

I'd start with xtrSENSE...here's a copy from my dropbox since the original mega/multiload site got seized by the feds:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36208010/xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip

MD5 checksum: 67abd6c555b726017586ad154e456041 *xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip

Let us know if you have any questions!

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edit: I'll snag the MD5 for you and post that in just a second...done!
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Yep - still works.

xtrSense5.01 is the clear successor to PlainJane; you can find it here

I've been using CondemnedSouls's CM7 (v21) ROM for a long time. CM7 and Gingerbread is a little much for the Eris - but the vast improvements in the browser in gingerbread ROMs make it worthwhile.
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Two newbie questions. Assuming I accomplish the rooting procedure without bricking the phone...Will the phone appear to operationally work the same, boot-up, log into the network, contact information still available or will phone have to be reconfigured to be operational or...? (The analogy in my mind is, if you re-install Windows, everything else gets blown away) I realize that some programs require the phone to be rooted to work, (I want to install Droidwall which is my initial reason to root the phone)-- are there other benefits to rooting a phone?
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Two newbie questions. Assuming I accomplish the rooting procedure without bricking the phone...Will the phone appear to operationally work the same, boot-up, log into the network, contact information still available or will phone have to be reconfigured to be operational or...? (The analogy in my mind is, if you re-install Windows, everything else gets blown away) I realize that some programs require the phone to be rooted to work, (I want to install Droidwall which is my initial reason to root the phone)-- are there other benefits to rooting a phone?
A1) This method only overwrites the factory recovery boot, not the software, settings, and user data that you use from day to day. It literally does not change that by one iota. The custom recovery boot that it installs allows you to backup/restore this exact state so that if you don't like something you do later on, you can always restore the state of the phone to EXACTLY where it is now. If you install a new ROM, then you will be reconfiguring "from scratch", just like the analogy you used of installing a new OS on a PC.**

A2) There are numerous benefits of rooting, but the principle ones are getting a performance benefit by modestly overclocking (say 710 Mhz instead of the default of 528), access to improved versions of Android, and being able to MAKE 100% BACKUPS of your phone.

** By using Titanium Backup, you have the ability to restore SOME applications and their corresponding user data on an app-by-app basis. This works best with Market apps when moving between ROMs based on the same Android major release, and may even work correctly (on some apps) when migrating between major releases. It won't work with built-in apps that have a dependence on specific "framework" releases, such as HTC's Sense apps.

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Two newbie questions. Assuming I accomplish the rooting procedure without bricking the phone...Will the phone appear to operationally work the same, boot-up, log into the network, contact information still available or will phone have to be reconfigured to be operational or...? (The analogy in my mind is, if you re-install Windows, everything else gets blown away)
Absolutely, yes. The phone will be the same. It is not until you install a custom ROM (which is just another way of saying an alternate Android system) that you will probably (though not always!) lose your apps and data. (Well, you can also do the equivalent of a factory reset with the stock system, but that is definitely not required if you are staying with stock.) In fact, in order to do anything that requires root with the Eris after running the root procedure in the first three posts of this thread, you either need to do something called flash a zip file called engtools3.zip (you can think of this as installing important files into Android that actually give the stock Eris system root capability) or flash a custom ROM (which is detailed in the steps in the fourth post in this thread.)

As I said before, you don't always need to lose data and apps when you flash a custom ROM. There are ROMs that are just rooted versions of the stock Android build on the Eris. The best one - the one I would always recommend - is called xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you can flash the ROM over syock and get all of the benefits of a rooted system while keeping all of your data and apps. While following the instructions in the fourth post of this thread that tell you how to install a custom ROM, there wil be an instruction to "Wipe data/factory reset". If you instead do "Wipe Dalvik cache" and continue with the instructions, you can flash xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip in the next few steps and, when you restart the phone, you'll still have all of your apps and data.

(Please note that xtrROM is different from xtrSENSE - it is close to stock, though it removes the Sense launcher completely - but you do need to do a factory reset in order to install this on the phone.)

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I realize that some programs require the phone to be rooted to work, (I want to install Droidwall which is my initial reason to root the phone)-- are there other benefits to rooting a phone?
The major ones for the Eris:

- almost every custom ROM runs faster than the stock Eris. Stock Eris runs the CPU at 528 MHz; almost every ROM runs instead at 710 MHz (while still allowing the Eris to run at a slower clock speed when the phone is idle to save battery life.)

- several ROMs remove the pre-installed software that comes on the phone (Footprints, Stocks, Teeter, Amazon MP3 - if you want that, you'll still install an update anyway - Visual Voicemail). You can remove those apps manually as well, if you wish, though it's not a trivial thing to do

- a few ROMs do some tricks that allow you to move storage space used by your third party apps to a partition on the phone's internal memory that generally goes unused, which can free up a dramatic amount of space for more apps and data

- you can install stock Android (as opposed to HTC's customized Sense version on the stock Eris) and get better contact apps, better browser apps, and the ability to install apps that require Froyo or better that cannot run on the Eris (the current version of Gmail is an example of that.)

One other thing: if you do want to install, say, a Gingerbread ROM on the phone but still have access to your apps and data, you can do something llike this:

- root the phone
- install the engtools3.zip file
- install an app called Titanium Backup and batch backup all user apps
- flash a custom ROM and wipe data
- setup the new ROM from scratch, install the Titanium Backup app from the market, and do a batch restore of user apps to get all of your apps and data back (note that you will not get SMS and MMS messages back, or call logs, but there are ways to get SMS and call logs back with other apps.)

[edit - by the way, if you need it, engtools3.zip is here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/220420/Eris/engtools3.zip]

[edit 2 - if you need help with any of this - understanding, learning how (I assume that you will) - please ask. There are several of us who watch this and will be happy to help you out.]
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Might I also add that with Titanium Backup, you will need to buy the pro key for it to do batch backups and when backing up DO NOT back up system data.
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Every link I have found to for the download of xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip seems to be dead. Does anyone know of a working link for this file?

I don't suppose there is anyone in the Detroit area that would oversee my rooting operation in exchange for lunch.
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Every link I have found to for the download of xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip seems to be dead. Does anyone know of a working link for this file?

I don't suppose there is anyone in the Detroit area that would oversee my rooting operation in exchange for lunch.
The links that I and eu1 provided above are not dead.

See posts #992 and #993 above.

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Just another quick note: if you are going to install xtrSENSE over stock, do not skip the step to make a Nandroid backup.

If you have ever used Norton Ghost on a Windows PC, you can think of it that way: it makes an exact copy of your phone, storing the files on your SD card. If something happens to your phone after you install xtrSENSE (or, any other time really), you can always:

- restart in Recovery
- choose the "Backup/Restore" menu
- choose "Restore"
- you'll be prompted with a code for your phone. Choose it
- then you will see a list of all of the Nandroid backups, with names that look something like this:

BDS-20120312-2210

The numbers are the date and time that you ran the Nandroid backup.

- choose the one that you want and let it restore
- restart the phone

And your phone will be in the state that it was at the time that you ran the backup.

Good luck and let us know if you have any other questions. I have xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip in my Dropbox as well: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/220420/Eris/xtrSENSE/xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip
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