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Old May 19th, 2011, 09:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Gin-Sen-Tazz: a Gingerbread, Sense ROM

Tazzpatriot is working on a Gingerbread based port of a Hero ROM (which was itself a port of an HTC Magic/G1 port of an HTC Wildfire S build) with the full Sense launcher. As of this morning, a lot seems to work: the camera included!

I haven't tried it yet, because I need to have WiFi (that's one of the things that does not work). Has anybody else?

(WIP) Gin-Sen-Tazz beta-2-5/18/11-GINGER SENSE -camera fixed !! - xda-developers

(Good screenshots are here, in the Magic thread: [Rom][32A][6.35] sfm 1.0 (New HTC LockScreen) (HTC Android 2.3.3) (12 May 2011) - xda-developers )

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What are the major advantages of using a Sense GB rom over something like GSB 3.3 or any other GB rom??
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Remember that the Eris was designed to run Sense. It may be that some features will be more compatible with Sense. Again, I haven't tried this ROM, but with stock, when you dial *228 you get a button that can open the keypad, for pressing 1 or 2 to activate or update PRLs. You can program the phone with ##PST. You can wake the phone in a speakerphone or BT call with a press of the trackball rather than having to hold VolUp while you press Send. Many people prefer the Sense launcher to stock Android, and the Sense dialer as well.

If you don't like Sense, this won't be for you. And it is a port, rather than being written for the Eris, so there may be some things that never work. That's how it was with 2.2 based Sense ROMs, at least so far.
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I liked having Sense on my Eris until I rooted! Don't think I'll go back at this point..maybe I'll try it for fun though!
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I might give this a try next week now that my finals are over(beer takes priority right now). I doubt I'll keep it, but it would be fun to play around with it.
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ill be downloading as soon as i get home. this lookz to be the rom/port we were discussing on the condemned thread.
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Ill be giving her a go too.
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dammit! in my excitement i forgot to do any wipes

wiped,and reflashing

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well,it runs

actually seems pretty smooth. app drawer opens and closes ok,the pull down is smooth and you can pick notifications or quick settings. the personalize button works,and both of the skins that are there work. camera does in fact work

i cant test much else until wifi gets fixed so i can sign into my account

you sense fans definately need to keep your eyeballs peeled on this one. if he can get everything fixed thats broken,and it remain fairly smooth,this will be an impressive rom.
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This is very cool. I was missing Sense and wanted to try something a bit different from GSB, so this looks like it's gonna be what I'm running for a while. It seems very smooth, especially for a beta release. I have a data plan, though, so I won't be needing WiFi for this rom to work for me.
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I have a data plan, too, but crappy, battery-sucking 3G service at home. WiFi is a must.

I'm fairly patient, though. Hopefully Tazz will get these small issue worked out soon.
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ive also got a data plan. but i need wifi to play with it cause my lil buddy isnt my active phone i was almost curious enuff to switch service back to it to check it out a little more indepth. if wifi worked it seemed smooth enuff to use daily to me... if it doesnt start slowing down over time as it seems alot of sense roms do.

the hero guys are devoted,fo sho. there isnt anything like this rom for the incredible yet... i think its pretty sweet it works as well as it does.
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Beta 3 is out with working WiFi. I'll probably flash this in the next day or two.
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awsome! it figures... ive prolly checked it no less than 5 times since early this morning.

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up and running,wifi is indeed working. it was extemely sluggish while it synced,but does seem to be smoothing out. its done with the sycn and market app download,im in the process of manually downloading some others so i can restore the others and see how it works.

the 3.0 lockscreen is working,and is effin sweet quick settings tab in the pulldown is also workin,and pretty slick.

will report more wen ive had a chance to set it up and test some other stuff.

like i said,if it remains fairly smooth,you sense fans are gonna love it
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like i said,if it remains fairly smooth,you sense fans are gonna love it
One of the reasons that I have been running xtrSENSE so much lately is to see whether I can happily upgrade to a stock* Sense build for my next phone - say, the DInc 2 (or even the TBolt.) And, based on the last week or two, yes, I know I can. Right now I am back to CSCM7v7 (with a V8 on the todo list to flash) for either the next week or until I try out this one for a bit.

* - Note sure if y'all caught the news that the new Android movie rental service will not be available for rooted phone. Google will block any phone that has root. This isn't a big deal to me, really, but I wonder if we will see more of stuff like this going forward?
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Hmm... That's interestng. Id be willing to bet that it will get hacked just like anything else... It defnately makes me sad to think things are becoming less developer friendly.

But as far as the movie rental... Yes,I can live without that.
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I'll take a trade - give me a phone that is locked and unrooted but without the carrier-loaded garbage apps, or at least the ability to remove them, and I definitely won't root the phone. You do that with the iPhone, Verizon Wireless .... just give us the choice.

(To be honest, I'm hoping that I don't have to root my next phone.)

I understand the movie thing - they know that a rooted device would be a cinch to get whatever DRM encryption key that they use to decrypt the movie file as it is played on the device.
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If I want to watch a movie it won't be on a 4.3in screen it'll be on a 60in big screen.
Also I'll wait for my next phone to be rooted with CM before I buy it. After having my Eris rooted for so long it was just a day or two before rooting the Dinc I have now. After having CM for so long I just couldn't personally deal with stock sense.
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If I want to watch a movie it won't be on a 4.3in screen it'll be on a 60in big screen.
Also I'll wait for my next phone to be rooted with CM before I buy it. After having my Eris rooted for so long it was just a day or two before rooting the Dinc I have now. After having CM for so long I just couldn't personally deal with stock sense.
yeah i can understand they dont want people to be able to take the movies for free and not legitimately rent them. im 100% fine with that,hopefully thats where it ends. thats what i love about android and hate about apple-open source. i like that developers are free to take the published source code and do what they will with it.

BC its really cool being on board with a device from its release. it was a thrill when the root exploits were first discovered,and i like that i have posts on the very first page of the TB all things root forum. nothing wrong with running a stock device if it meets your needs and rooting/roming isnt a hobby. i by no means needed to root my TB to make it work acceptably. but i enjoy it. and it will let me run my choice of software on it(cm7)

i kind of enjoy sense roms when i only have to run them for a couple days at a time but with no AOSP to go back to,it is a lil fustrating. ive started using handcent to make my mms look like AOSP,i use either swiftkey or the GB keyboard. i run ADW launcher. with the exception of contacts and email, and the "pretty" icons(like people instead of contacs) my phone looks kinda AOSPy,but its still not the same. at least the leak gave me GB.

i cant wait until they get the RIL figured out so that the TB will have nightly builds. right now it runs,but its kind of hacked and full of workarounds to try and hold people over. i run it every few days for a day or 2,but it drinks the battery like you wouldnt believe

BC,i wouldnt wait until your device has working CM7. while the lack of it is a lil fustrating,it will come. waiting to get the device isnt gonna make it come any faster its gonna be another big rush for me when nightlys start rollin. flashin the newest nightly was always the highlight of my day on the inc,lol

its my understanding that slayher is pretty much the only one workin on it,so its goin a little slow.its hard,but im bein patiend because i 100% appreciate his efforts. the work hes doing should make it go much faster for 4g phones in the future
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up and running,wifi is indeed working. it was extemely sluggish while it synced,but does seem to be smoothing out. its done with the sycn and market app download,im in the process of manually downloading some others so i can restore the others and see how it works.
I chose not to log in during setup (on my third try) and that made things much, much easier. In fact, the stupid market was restoring apps that I uninstalled ages ago. What a pain in the butt.

Right now I have TiBu restoring most of my apps. I should be up and running in about 45 minutes or so, with all settings pages visited, SetCPU set up (haven't used that in a while.)

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That I do not like. It's too quirky. The Froyo Nexus tab has always been my favorite unlocker.
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over all its fairly smooth when scrolling the home screens,the pulldown,and opening/closing the app drawer. it switches from notifications to quick settings fairly quickly,and to most frequented,and downloaded in the app drawer.

however...

it sometimes takes a few seconds to load the launcher and homescreen icons back in when you wake it up. i even bumped up my min to 480 to see if it would help any.

longpressing the screen takes forever for the add menu to appear so you can select a shortcut or widget. most apps run pretty smooth,but take a few seconds to open. the htc keyboard is a lil laggy,but not bad,and i havent tried swiftkey yet.

it is daily driveable if you dont mind the lag,but if your picky it might not be for you just yet.

overall im still really impressed... this is a port of a port of a really complex rom that i never thot the lil eris would run. i hope he can get it running super smooth and really polished up
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I pulled it until I can spend enough time figuring out how to keep the launcher from restarting. Apparently it can be done with this (though see this and this for some more info.)

Swiftkey I tried just briefly and it was fine. Adding items to homescreens is a lot faster if you use the paintbrush icon in the lower right of the taskbar.
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guys if u run this rom,,, formatt ur card,, seems to help ,, also,, there is something called supercharger i think,, people are running itr and they say it helps with the sense resetting
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Yeah, I am planning to restore this tonight, apply the supercharge scripts (those are the links in my post above yours), and try going through the day tomorrow.

I've also seen in the xda thread that installing the Verizon Messages app https://market.android.com/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&feature=se arch_result and sending a single message seems to fix MMS issues as well. Apparently you can uninstall the app after sending a message.

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guys if u run this rom,,, formatt ur card,, seems to help ,, also,, there is something called supercharger i think,, people are running itr and they say it helps with the sense resetting
hmm theres alot of stuff in my card id have to move and move back might deleting android_secure produce the same affects?

i havent had a chance to look at the links doogald provided yet,maybe ill get to it tonight. the launcer restarting prollem at first wasnt so bad-it only did it on wake up. as i add apps and use it, its happening alot more often.

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hmm theres alot of stuff in my card id have to move and move back might deleting android_secure produce the same affects?
roirraW "edor" ehT (man, that was a pain to type) on xda reported that he'd been using Clockworks wipe factory (as do I) to wipe .android_secure, but he tried installing after formatting the card and found that he had no launcher restarts.

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It's simple - you download a script, you run it either from Script Manager, GScript or even a terminal window as root, type a number and hit enter, wait for the script to run its commands and restart the phone. But, you'll see...

By the way, it works great in CondemnedSoul's ROM. I no longer turn on lock home in memory, and I never get LP restarts.
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I'm uploading a new version..it now says Verizon. Not no service... Mms should be fixed .ny phone isn't active so I need feed back..I didn't get the sense reboot .. and i didnt get the phone fc either .so hopefully its fixed now .again..for best result..let it completely load before setting up
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I'm uploading a new version..it now says Verizon. Not no service... Mms should be fixed .ny phone isn't active so I need feed back..I didn't get the sense reboot .. and i didnt get the phone fc either .so hopefully its fixed now .again..for best result..let it completely load before setting up

Tazz, although I haven't tried your rom yet (and I will) I've read good things about it. Like Scotty I'm a flashaholic. Work has been taking up a lot of time. Just want to say thanks for visiting our little forum and showing interest in what we think of your work. Its nice to be able to chat with "the man" himself. Condemned Soul contributes a lot to the forum as I hope you will too.
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I'm uploading a new version..it now says Verizon. Not no service... Mms should be fixed .ny phone isn't active so I need feed back..I didn't get the sense reboot .. and i didnt get the phone fc either .so hopefully its fixed now .again..for best result..let it completely load before setting up
I'm heading out for the night. It depends on when we get back, but I should be able to flash this tonight if I am back early enough. Thanks again.
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another update posted in my thread
(WIP) Gin-Sen-Tazz beta-6-5/25/11-GINGER SENSE - xda-developers

now says verizon,, video recording works if u change video quality to 320-240
new options to add to lock screen,,,, mms working , i borked them in v5,,new boot animation
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I may try this again later on, but my one main issue is that after installing only the core apps that I really feel that I need to have on my phone - the one's that I know would drive me crazy if I did not have them - I am left with only about 28 MB of space. Zach.xtr's cache2cache doesn't seem to work the same way with this ROM. When I get some more time to play around I may see if the old-school apps2sd flash will allow me to do the same thing, or I may just go ahead and move a bunch of apps to SD and see how that goes. Unfortunately, right now I don't have as much time to fiddle around with things.

One thing that I noticed with the beta 5 that you posted last night, though - it's definitely lost a lot of lag.
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Is this still advisable?
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Is this still advisable?
Based on what I have read on the xda thread, I think Supercharger is no longer necessary (though, if you start getting Sense resets - basically, when you are in an app and go Home and you see the white background with green HTC lettering and then the Sense launcher starts, as if you had just restarted the phone) then you may want to do this.

I'm not sure about formatting the card, but I think that's a bit voodoo-ish myself.
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Old May 29th, 2011, 01:14 PM   #35 (permalink)
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This ROM is definitely cool. It's been fun messing around with all the sense things again and trying out some of the new skins (I thought there would be more than there seems to be). I've also learned that I don't think I can stick with sense. I miss being able to hide apps in the app drawer, I don't need 7 home screens, and I also don't like the way the app drawer scrolls.

The lock screen is awesome. I hope cm builds get something like it in the future. Great work, Tazz. It's amazing what the dev community can do.
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bt fixed update coming soon
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