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Old March 5th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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setting ad-hoc
setting essid
setting channel
setting transmit power
all failed.?
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setting ad-hoc
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I have used "wireless_tether_2_0-pre10.apk" on a huge number of Eris ROMs - all the way back to Eclair-derived ROMS - without any troubles. Never even bothered to try any later revs.

Perhaps you could try an older version? I don't know if that's where your trouble lies, but it's worth a shot.

FYI, that (older) version requests root twice - the first time you turn tethering on, and the first time you turn it off.

Also, if you plan on using wifi tethering heavily, note that the Eris gets HOT with both radios chugging away - it's probably in your best interest to figure out how to keep it cool. At a very minimum taking the back cover off, and then figuring out a way to conduct / convect heat away from the battery.

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I have used "wireless_tether_2_0-pre10.apk" on a huge number of Eris ROMs - all the way back to Eclair-derived ROMS - without any troubles. Never even bothered to try any later revs.

Perhaps you could try an older version? I don't know if that's where your trouble lies, but it's worth a shot.

FYI, that (older) version requests root twice - the first time you turn tethering on, and the first time you turn it off.

Also, if you plan on using wifi tethering heavily, note that the Eris gets HOT with both radios chugging away - it's probably in your best interest to figure out how to keep it cool. At a very minimum taking the back cover off, and then figuring out a way to conduct / convect heat away from the battery.

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Im on the newest condemnedsoulds rom. and okay. ill try thanks.

edit: Okay so I got it and it works. Free tho right??
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Not sure what you are asking. You certainly didn't pay anything to download the app, right?

It doesn't do anything magical though - if your subscriber plan with your carrier has a monthly data cap, the app isn't going to somehow get around that. It just allows you to use the phone as a WiFi AP (Access Point) for other devices - the data traffic that occurs as a result of that activity gets counted by the carrier no differently than if it was caused by the phone itself.

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Not sure what you are asking. You certainly didn't pay anything to download the app, right?

It doesn't do anything magical though - if your subscriber plan with your carrier has a monthly data cap, the app isn't going to somehow get around that. It just allows you to use the phone as a WiFi AP (Access Point) for other devices - the data traffic that occurs as a result of that activity gets counted by the carrier no differently than if it was caused by the phone itself.

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Oh duh sorry now I feel stupid lol. thanks!!
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It should also be noted that you are breaking the terms of your contract, which allows data usage for the Eris only for email and web traffic only (phone apps use web traffic). That is for your conscience to decide.
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It should also be noted that you are breaking the terms of your contract, which allows data usage for the Eris only for email and web traffic only (phone apps use web traffic). That is for your conscience to decide.
Isn;t it breaking terms of the contract rooting it and putting a rom on it in the first place lol? Thanks for letting me know tho.
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Isn;t it breaking terms of the contract rooting it and putting a rom on it in the first place lol? Thanks for letting me know tho.
A court case a few years ago interpreted the DMCA in such a way that rooting/jailbreaking a device is not in violation of the DMCA. Verizon and HTC can void the warranty for the device (in the case of the Eris, that has long ago expired), but you are not prohibited from rooting the phone. There is no such court ruling about the terms of the data contract at this point, though.

I know that thousands of customers tether in violation of the contract with no consequences, but you may want to be careful not to download multiple gigabytes if you have an unlimited contract.

I do hope the carriers at some point relax this and realize that with data caps and overage charges that tethering is not all that bad for their business.
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A court case a few years ago interpreted the DMCA in such a way that rooting/jailbreaking a device is not in violation of the DMCA. Verizon and HTC can void the warranty for the device (in the case of the Eris, that has long ago expired), but you are not prohibited from rooting the phone. There is no such court ruling about the terms of the data contract at this point, though.

I know that thousands of customers tether in violation of the contract with no consequences, but you may want to be careful not to download multiple gigabytes if you have an unlimited contract.

I do hope the carriers at some point relax this and realize that with data caps and overage charges that tethering is not all that bad for their business.
Oh cool. and yeah I wont be using it too much. Just in a couple classes ar school so i dont have to deal with the blocks. And this phone gets really hot o I think imma get an ice pack or something haha.
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Oh cool. and yeah I wont be using it too much. Just in a couple classes ar school so i dont have to deal with the blocks. And this phone gets really hot o I think imma get an ice pack or something haha.
Yes, it does. When I was Google Map navigating a couple of years ago - 98 deg hot summer day - I had the Eris cradled just in front of my vent in the car with the AC running full-blast and the phone was still almost blistering hot to the touch when I finished.
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Yes, it does. When I was Google Map navigating a couple of years ago - 98 deg hot summer day - I had the Eris cradled just in front of my vent in the car with the AC running full-blast and the phone was still almost blistering hot to the touch when I finished.
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Be aware that we (this forum) had an early rooter that decided to run his phone overclocked with the min CPU speed equal to the max CPU speed.

His phone only lasted about a week before it died completely.

Bottom line is that these phones don't have a thermal design which supports things like a pegged CDMA radio, a pegged WiFi radio, and an overclocked CPU all running simultaneously.

High temperatures accelerate many different failure mechanisms; that's one of the reasons that overclockers in the PC space add things like pumped water-cooled heat sink systems and high-speed blower fans - so they get rid of heat before it destroys their hardware.

There's no fan inside your phone - and it's encased in materials with horrible thermal conductivity (plastics & glass). The battery has a fair bit of mass (and thus some heat capacity) - but the mobo in the phone is not in good thermal contact with the battery. All of which combined makes it easy for the chips on the mobo to reach extremely high temperatures.

I would be cautious of using it in a tethering mode for things like streaming video/audio for client stations - continuous power dissipation. If I was forced to do that, I'd take the back cover off, strap it to a heat sink, and blow a fan across the heat sink. (For incidental use, though, I wouldn't go to that trouble.)

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Be aware that we (this forum) had an early rooter that decided to run his phone overclocked with the min CPU speed equal to the max CPU speed.

His phone only lasted about a week before it died completely.

Bottom line is that these phones don't have a thermal design which supports things like a pegged CDMA radio, a pegged WiFi radio, and an overclocked CPU all running simultaneously.

High temperatures accelerate many different failure mechanisms; that's one of the reasons that overclockers in the PC space add things like pumped water-cooled heat sink systems and high-speed blower fans - so they get rid of heat before it destroys their hardware.

There's no fan inside your phone - and it's encased in materials with horrible thermal conductivity (plastics & glass). The battery has a fair bit of mass (and thus some heat capacity) - but the mobo in the phone is not in good thermal contact with the battery. All of which combined makes it easy for the chips on the mobo to reach extremely high temperatures.

I would be cautious of using it in a tethering mode for things like streaming video/audio for client stations - continuous power dissipation. If I was forced to do that, I'd take the back cover off, strap it to a heat sink, and blow a fan across the heat sink. (For incidental use, though, I wouldn't go to that trouble.)

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Jeez, thanks for the info. I had no clue. Thanks for the warning I wont use it too much.
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