Necron80

I am going to apologize now for the noob type question. The last phone I owned was a nokia 5400.

I am looking for a bit of info and/or a tut on how to remove apps with the rooted 2.1 for the Eris ( BTW thanks to all the dev's for their hard work).

I have installed the rooted 2.1 with out a hitch. I have been looking around to find out how to uninstall a few of the apps (amazon, stocks, tweet) and found people that say to use SDK's ADB or terminal. I understand what the terminal is and the SDK that google offers is but not the ADB. I also understand that there is a chance to brick by removing the wrong things. So I don't want to just make a careless mistake. So if anyone could point me in the right direction it would be a great help.

Thanks for the time.
Mike

GrdLock

Go to a command prompt and type "adb shell"

You should see a # sign, that's the root terminal on your phone.

In order to remove apps, you need to remount your system folder on the phone with write permissions. To do this type "mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system" (it won't say anything it will just go back to a # sign again)

Now type "cd /system/app" and then "ls"

That will list all the apk files, which are the applications.

You can remove them by typing "rm -r Whatever.apk" (it's case sensitive)

Amazon is amazonmp3.apk
Twitter is HtcTwitter.apk and com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk
Visual VM is VVMStub_v3.apk

BE VERY CAREFUL doing this. Don't just go around deleting apps. Some may not be safe to delete as they are connected with other apps, etc. Those three I posted are safe to delete.

Rrrracer

Hey Grdlock, have you deleted more than just those three? Any idea how much memory you have freed up?

I have the leaked 2.1 on mine, the thought of root has me salivating LOL...

GrdLock

I've deleted a lot of stuff, changed a lot of stuff, bricked my phone a few times, reflashed it a few times. It's been fun.

Never paid attention to how much memory deleting apps freed up though.

Necron80

Thank You GrdLock that was what I was looking for.

Rrrracer

Sounds like it (with a tinge of jealousy in my voice ) So what have you found that should NOT be deleted?

GrdLock

Footprints shouldn't be deleted I do know that. Deleting apps you shouldn't most likely won't cause catastrophy, but might cause other apps with dependencies to crash, etc.

Another no-no is trying to install the N1 live wallpapers. That sent my phone into an endless reboot cycle.

gnarlyc

I've removed the three apps that GrdLock list earlier in the thread (AmazonMP3, VisualVM, and Twitter). So far, it's worked well. I've also copied VisualVM back ('adb pull' and 'adb push'), and it appears to work.

I'm getting ready to test removing a few more that I will never use. It's good to know not to remove Footprints! That WAS next on my list.

IzelTokatl

Once everyone figures out whats not good to remove, we should put up a sticky thread stating: Removable apps, mandatory apps.

:-) wish I waited on the leak... now im standing on the sidelines to get root access

have fun all!

Scynthetic78

Out of curiosity, what happened when you removed footprints? Was it tied into another app? If so, which one?

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Ruh17

What I have read is that footprints is tied into the camera. Not sure what negative affects it would have if deleted tho.

yELLOcAKE

I've deleted Footprints and honestly nothing seems wrong.
The camera still works fine and so does the camcorder.
The only thing funny that happened was after I deleted it using the Terminal Emulator a HTC screen popped up and then it re-loaded my homescreen.
I deleted it the first day the root came out and my phone is just fine.

hallstevenson

Is it that crude ? No "installer" system like 'apt' ? That would be much better if Android had done it that way.... Doing "apt-get remove footprints.apk" would tell you

app-x depends on footprints.apk
app-y depends on footprints.apk

so you know what packages depend on what other packages. That will throw people for a loop. Just wait !

GrdLock

I should have clarified. Many of the apps that are linked to other stuff may not cause any catastrophic failure and cause your phone to implode into a black hole.

We have found deleting footprints to cause issues with Navigation though.

@hallstevenson: Android has a pseudo-installer. Not anything near what apt is though, so you don't get any dependency errors or anything.

TheAtheistReverend

Forgive me this probably stupid question, but I opened cmd from "run" in the start menu and typing "adb shell" gives me nothing but "adb is not recognized as an internal or external command..."
is there another command prompt I should be opening? or maybe type adb shell under a different drive?

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gruss

Don't work without some outside help in windows. See here:
[HOW-TO] ADB for Dummies(How-To Learner's Guide) - xda-developers

That was just a quick google of "sdk adb" but it should get ya going in the right direction. I think there are some threads around here explaining it as well.

TheAtheistReverend

all I get is "rm: cannot remove 'VVMStub_v3.apk' : Read-only file system"
and then
"#"

fungalMonk

Sounds as if you didn't remount the filesystem first with the command above.

Heliotropic

So is the option to install/run apps from the SD card being looked at? Has it been done before on android?

gohamstergo

for the safe apps to remove: can we also remove the .odex files of the same names? im assuming yes but just want to be sure

screennamie

if I install a terminal emulator on my eris can i input these commands and get the same responses with out having to connect the phone to my computer?

sc00bz

Yes. It's what I do.

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kbeep

so i'm curious as to what bloatware you could remove and still have the phone stable......i'm starring at the list of system apps right now just itchin to remove some.

Necron80

When looking thought the list I see .odex
as in Htc.Twitter.odex or Stocks.odex
Can and or is it safe to remove these.

magicelf

So getting rid of Stocks and Teeter is ok?

T2noob

Here is a list of Apps and the Odex files me and Others have deleted without having any problems
And I don't remember the names you can figure it out yourself. They don't differ to much from app names.
If you do this make sure you make back ups, in case something goes wrong.
Nothing happened to mine doing this but some people on here are not good at following directions so do this AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!
1) Visual voice Mail
2) Twitter both the app and the widget.
3) HtclockScreen.apk Deleting this will get you the nexus lock.
4) MMS (messages txt)
5) Stocks all 3 apks
6) Teeter
7) Browser
8) Amazonmp3
Things that could be deleted but I haven't tried or want to try because I use them.
9) Quickoffice
10) calendar apk and widget.
11) contacts The WIDGET NOT THE APP!!! I REPEAT DON'T REMOVE APP BUT ONLY THE WIDGET!!!!!
12) MAIL WIDGET Again not the app unless you want to go with out email or if you don't use it But I'm not even sure about this one.

And again do this AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
Don't come complaining if something goes wrong Thats why you make Backups.
Taking out the first six frees up about 8.5 mb..You can use this for a long Bootanimation.

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Last edited by T2noob; March 25th, 2010 at 01:52 AM. Reason: added other things you can delete.

Ruh17

You the man T2noob. Was wondering about the message app.
Thanks!

gohamstergo

all of this freed space is still part of the system partition tho right? so doesnt free up any usuable app space... am i wrong? Not trying to sound negative, im actually curious

Last edited by gohamstergo; March 23rd, 2010 at 05:29 PM.

T2noob

Yea no prob.
And I actually forgot one
11) Browser This is for people that dont use the stock browser. Ei people that use dolphin, opera, or xscope.

Idk what you mean...But if you wanted you could stick apps in the system/app folder if you want i guess.
I used a long boot so I used like 7mb lol thats the way I used the free space i got lol.

droidkevlar

[quote=T2noob;465641]Here is a list of Apps and the Odex files me and Others have deleted without having any problems
And I don't remember the names you can figure it out yourself. They don't differ to much from app names.
If you do this make sure you make back ups, in case something goes wrong.
Nothing happened to mine doing this but some people on here are not good at following directions so do this AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!
1) Visual voice Mail
2) Twitter both the app and the widget.
3) HtclockScreen.apk Deleting this will get you the nexus lock.
4) MMS (messages txt)
5) Stocks all 3 apks
quote]

I was only able to find 2 of the stocks. What is the 3rd?

Stock.apk
Stock.odex
com.htc.StockWidget.apk
com.htc.StockWidget.odex

T2noob

Dcsstock.apk
dcsstock.odex

droidkevlar

Bye bye Stocks.

Any other programs that can be safely removed that you came across? Ive removed everything but Browser that you said was safe so far. Making my friends jealous since they still have those useless apps. God I love this forum.

Last edited by droidkevlar; March 25th, 2010 at 11:58 AM.

TheAtheistReverend

please delete

Last edited by TheAtheistReverend; March 25th, 2010 at 12:59 PM.

droidkevlar

Yes. And you can remove the odex file of that as well.

T2noob

I would say try it...worst case scenario you have to reflash...and if you make a back up now, you can come back to exactly how it is now.

Ive flashed more times than I count but I learned what you can, and can't do
I like trying things out I have added scripts to my phone so I don't have to type the mount and remount commands every time thru adb all the time. For me its just as simple as typing sysrw and the script does the rest. Experiment with your phone if you feel comfortable. With a back up and recovery its pretty hard to brick your phone, not impossible but harder to do.

droidkevlar

I just learned NAND and made a few backups and messed around. Only other app I would remove is footprints but read above that it messes with Navi, so Ill leave that alone for now. I really dont use a browser so I could uninstall that and install a better one but Ill just leave it for now.

Thank you and all the other dev's so much. Was worried I wouldnt like jumping the gun and going r00t on it but glad I waited to get r00t and 2.1 and actually learning stuff at the same time

mdleal

Titanium backup does all of this from a nice little gui. Is there any downfall to the app.

droidkevlar

NAND is built into the recovery ROM and nothing to install since its part of root, so if you mess up something bad and the phone doesnt function anymore, you just flash back to that backup and its back to exactly how it was when you made the backup. So far, saved me some time already.

TheAtheistReverend

I'm learning here
I removed my HtcLockScreen.apk
"rm -r HtcLockScreen.apk"
Then decided I liked my Senseui lockscreen better, so I downloaded a copy of the apk I deleted and I can't seem to get it back into place. Since I am not very familiar with the language used (when to use a "/" or " " or "\", push, pull, etc) but have been semi successful navigating around in my terminal emulator and some in the adb shell (though still less comfortable with the shell), I am hoping someone can help me get my apk back into place. If I have the "HtcLockScreen.apk" in my sd card root, what "exactly" should I do to move it or copy it into the app folder in the phone?
I tried something to the effect of "adb push C:HtcLockScreen.apk /system/app/"
that I found as instructions for moving a different file in a forum at xda (with the apk in my C: drive) I just subbed in the file names I wanted to move and the locations I was using and kept my fingers crossed.

No luck.
All I got was a ">" and when I hit the "any key" wink,wink- I get "(whatever the first word was in my last command, like "adb" in this example) not found"

help?

EDIT:
nevermind. I learned my lesson, re flashed and now will try to be more careful and back things up first.

Last edited by TheAtheistReverend; April 5th, 2010 at 04:06 PM. Reason: Clarification

LexusBrian400

Thanks guys. Lots of code here, learned alot!

TheAtheistReverend

Just a little more please

TheAtheistReverend

I have removed MANY apps, and had no ill effects.
I finally got smart and make NAND backups before each questionable deletion, but I haven't had to back-up yet.
footprints
mms
mail
browser
stocks
vvm
teeter
twitter
facebook
socialnetwork
etc.
Now I'm thinking about removing the voice dialer, gtalk and services, and more.

droidkevlar

Add youmail as well. That seemed to save my battery a lil longer once removed

magicelf

If you have the newest youmail app, they fixed the battery draining issue.

droidkevlar

Im a dumbass. The guy is talking about base apps that come with the phone and I put youmail. I meant youtube. But thanks for the heads up on youmail though. Ill give it a shot later and see.

TheAtheistReverend

Funny. Youtube is what I saw.
I also Deleted the SecretControlModule and haven't noticed any ill effects yet. Has anyone figured out what that was for anyway?

rentjr

everytime I go to cmd and type abd shell, I have to reboot my system to get my phone to show up on my computer. push commands will work and other commands work but adb shell will not. I nacigate to my sdk\tools folder, type in "adb shell" and I do get a # but then nothing I type in after that works and when I disconnect my phone and try to mount it again, it is not recognized by my computer. I have to restart my comp. to fix it

Does windows vista just suck a big one or am I doing something wrong?

TheProfessional

Windows Vista does suck.

droidkevlar

Are you all updated, like SP2? Didnt have any issues with Vista when I tested it for a friend.

And Vista is crap. Switch to Win 7. 100x better.

rentjr

Its vista Home Premium SP2, I just don't know why all other commands will work but not the shell command. I rooted my phone installed the recovery. fastboot and push work fine but when I try to do "adb shell" thats it, time to restart the comp. My printer ont even work until I restart.