When using wifi instead of the 3G service is it true that 3G automatically turns off when you turn wifi on, or is it still running in the background? Do you have to physically have to turn 3G off when using wifi? Sorry, newbie here. Also, can you still make calls, texts, etc. with just using wifi?
On the otherhand maybe you were referring to the "Text" on yahoo or google. Technically those are called "chat" on Google and "Chat & Mobile Text" on Yahoo. Those I am 100% sure on.
well i read on here you can call/txt with the mobile network off. so if you have the mobile network off and wifi on, i figured you could still txt.
and this is why I asked the question....some people say you can and some people say you can't, and not just on this site, i've read conflicting posts on other forums as well. I don't have my eris yet so I guess i'll just have to wait and see to test it myself when i get it, hopefully tomorrow
On ppcgeeks someone asked about the ring delay. Often times my phone was barely ringing at all, part of one ring, before the caller hung up or voicemail kicked in. Being an HTC Windows phone user I had seen this fixed before and thought it was fairly common knowledge but apparently it may not be for others so here we go.
The delay in ring time is determined by the slot cycle index of your phone. The Slot Cycle Index is how often the phone checks the towers for incoming calls. The default value is 2 which equates to checking every 5.12 seconds for a call. If the phone check right before a call comes in it will be another 5 seconds before the phone sees the call. Changing the slot cycle to 1 changes the time to 2.56 second and a 0 value time of 1.28 second.
There is however one drawback. Polling the towers more often means using more battery. I use a slot cycle of 1 and haven't noticed much difference in battery life. My phone now ring between the first and second ring as opposed to the third and forth at the default setting.
Finally here is the solution if you choose to give it a try.
##PST Send
Edit Mode
Enter 000000 Press OK
Modem Settings
Slot Cycle Index
Change Value (Lower values ring faster)
OK
Menu
Commit Modifications
Press OK to reset the device. OK
After that your device should reboot and you should be good!
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Switch to stock android home
You can disable the Sense UI without uninstalling it or rooting the device (which to my knowledge is not yet possible as there are no roms).
To switch to the stock android home manually do:
1. Click Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications.
2. Scroll down until you find an application named "HTC Sense" and click on it.
3. Scroll down to where you can see "Launch by default" and click on "Clear defaults".
3. Then push the Home button (on your phone) and a dialog will pop up showing "Home" and "HTC Sense", check "Use by default for this action" and then click "Home". Now you got "Home" as default.
Just repeat the same process for "Home" to go back to the "HTC Sense" UI.
Alternatively you can use a program on the market place called "Home Switcher" to do this for you.
When using wifi instead of the 3G service is it true that 3G automatically turns off when you turn wifi on, or is it still running in the background? Do you have to physically have to turn 3G off when using wifi? Sorry, newbie here. Also, can you still make calls, texts, etc. with just using wifi?
When you choose to disable the mobile network, you're not turning the ability to use your phone as a phone off. You're actually changing it from 3G down to 2G which disables your access to internet using the Verizon network. It's basically making your data package obsolete, not taking away your ability to make calls, texts, etc.. You're only disabling internet through Verizon, not everything else. Hope that answers your question.
When you choose to disable the mobile network, you're not turning the ability to use your phone as a phone off. You're actually changing it from 3G down to 2G which disables your access to internet using the Verizon network. It's basically making your data package obsolete, not taking away your ability to make calls, texts, etc.. You're only disabling internet through Verizon, not everything else. Hope that answers your question.
Thanks for your response, that makes a lot of sense, it's just that i kept reading conflicting posts regarding this issue. Thanks again.
Not a problem, glad I could help.
Just to confirm what I said, you can turn off your mobile network but don't turn on wifi. Then try calling someone or sending a text message, it'll still work.
When using wifi instead of the 3G service is it true that 3G automatically turns off when you turn wifi on, or is it still running in the background? Do you have to physically have to turn 3G off when using wifi? Sorry, newbie here. Also, can you still make calls, texts, etc. with just using wifi?
Is the phone smart enough when wifi is on to use it to surf the net instead of 3G?
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I believe the phone is smart enough. When the wifi is on the 3G connection looks to go to sleep. I've never shut the mobile network down on my phone and lately I'm going about 2 days before needing to charge the phone with moderate usage. I have my wifi connection set to never sleep and I only toggle that off when I'm not going to be near wifi for a few hours. I also leave the GPS on. I really don't bother toggling any thing off anymore.
I believe the phone is smart enough. When the wifi is on the 3G connection looks to go to sleep. I've never shut the mobile network down on my phone and lately I'm going about 2 days before needing to charge the phone with moderate usage. I have my wifi connection set to never sleep and I only toggle that off when I'm not going to be near wifi for a few hours. I also leave the GPS on. I really don't bother toggling any thing off anymore.
LostSoul, are you using any of the many apps reported to increase battery life (app killer, home, spare parts - etc) or are you just letting the phone do whatever it wants to do?
When you charge the phone, do you turn it off or just put it to sleep?
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I have spare parts on my phone but it's more of a settings tweaking app and a monitoring app then something that would really fix battery issues. It's worthwhile to check battery usage statistics and to speed up the window animations.
I've got the home switcher app on my phone but really the HTC Sense ui is the best home replacement out there that I've played with so I'm staying with it.
I have used Taskiller, Advanced Task Killer, and Automatic Task Killer in the past. For me Advanced Task Killer worked the best but I always made sure to kill it as well after killing everything else. I'm currently using one called TaskPanel which is quite nice. I don't really use them for battery life so much as to clean up memory on the phone and get the ui back to being speedy again. The more apps you use the more laggy it gets so cleaning up the memory helps. The phone does an ok job of cleaning it up without one of the task apps but I've found that it helps quite a bit.
What kills the battery is when an application does not allow the phone to go to sleep. If you download a lot of apps from the app store then I would recommend one of the task killing apps. There are a lot of apps that I have found that can keep the phone from sleeping and be the real problem. Some of the widgets are real killers.
When I charge the phone I just plug it in and charge it. I don't shut the phone down. Seems every few days I have to reboot my phone anyway cause the GPS gets out of wack or the compass refuses to calibrate.
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If you want to zoom easily, move the track ball up/down. You will notice the zoom appear on the left of the screen. This is much easier to zoom if you use the ball to snap the picture since you already have your finger on it.
You can disable the Sense UI without uninstalling it or rooting the device (which to my knowledge is not yet possible as there are no roms).
To switch to the stock android home manually do:
1. Click Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications.
2. Scroll down until you find an application named "HTC Sense" and click on it.
3. Scroll down to where you can see "Launch by default" and click on "Clear defaults".
3. Then push the Home button (on your phone) and a dialog will pop up showing "Home" and "HTC Sense", check "Use by default for this action" and then click "Home". Now you got "Home" as default.
Just repeat the same process for "Home" to go back to the "HTC Sense" UI.
Alternatively you can use a program on the market place called "Home Switcher" to do this for you.
I'll be a son of a b*tch! This actually works! I hate sense UI so bad and I can't believe it's that simple to disable it! This has to be the most useful info I've gotten on my Eris since I got it!
Thank you so much! Any way to revert the notification panel to its rightful white color, or is that permanent?
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iPhone doesn't need to have simultaneous web browsing and call. They drop so many calls you just wait till the call is dropped, get your movie time, then call back and shout it in the 8 seconds before the second call is dropped. No big deal.
Just wanted to share my results. I am currently in the last charge of the 3 day battery calibration. I did the SMS reset last night and was at 100% awake time before that. I know am at 75% awake time, and that is me using medium to high usage. I also have Automatic Task Killer Installed.
After I got my new Eris, I didn't bother installing any task killer programs. I got 18 hours of heavy use out of my phone the other day, after I conditioned the battery a few times. Talked on the phone for about an hour, listened to MP3s for a while, texted all day, little bit of browsing..etc.
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Is there a way to get this phone to sound a tone or something repeatedly if you get a new voicemail/text/whatever? I came from the Motorola Z6TV, and it would beep once a minute until you shut it off to notify you that you missed something. This only seems to flash the trackball which is useless when it's in your pocket. Any help would be appreciated!
I found a little trick to the location settings. There is no reason to leave 'location setting' on. I believe leaving this on is a bigger drain on the battery than having gps on as it is always finding your location on the network. If gps is on it is only working if an app requests it.
I leave the first option 'use wireless networks' on at all times. This allows apps to get your coarse location as needed. This functions the same whether the second option is on or not.
you will notice that if you are in the settings/location menu you cannot turn gps on without also turning on 'location setting' if they are both off. you can however turn gps on and then turn 'location setting' off and still get gps functionality in apps. I just leave both off here and use the widget to turn gps on and off without activating 'location setting'. You will also notice after doing this that if you return to the location menu or reboot the phone 'location setting' will automatically turn on. you can tell whether it is off or on by the bars being displayed next to the crosshairs in the notification bar.
It may not be much and the only evidence I have supporting battery drain is that turning location on on my old dumb phone was a battery killer. Also helpful for the big brother types.
I've found that I've accidentally added some words to the auto correction dictionary. Is there a method to remove accidentally added words, or at least reset it to factory settings without resetting the entire phone.
In conjunction with the words, if you are spelling something and the word predictor/speller bar comes up and its blocking your view or in a place you dont like then long press somewhere on the bar and slide it to a more desirable location.
Anyone found a way to stop the boot sounds on the Eris? There is a little chime when the htc logo appears, etc. If its in "Sound and Display" I don't see it.
Anyone found a way to stop the boot sounds on the Eris? There is a little chime when the htc logo appears, etc. If its in "Sound and Display" I don't see it.
only 1 way i know, but your phone on silent or vibrate only when you turn it off. when you turn it back on it will start with no sounds.
only 1 way i know, but your phone on silent or vibrate only when you turn it off. when you turn it back on it will start with no sounds.
I've found that isn't entirely true, sometimes it will make the sounds even if you're phone is on silent. You have to turn the MEDIA volume off, and when you reboot it won't make noise.
Still, I wish there was a way to disable it in the settings.
I just did the "Disable SenseUI" trick and I'm shocked it's that easy to do! I do have a question about it, though. Is there any negative to doing this? Are there any reasons other than the widgets and "scenes" and the visual slick-ness to SenseUI? I only ask because it seems that disabling Sense would have a positive effect on speed/battery life.
But if there's some key things I wouldn't be able to do, I'd consider switching back.
What's weird is all the Facebook stuff is still showing, even with Sense disabled. I can still specify Flickr/Facebook accounts while adding a new contact too. Other than the social integration and the pretty graphics, I'm trying to figure out what else I'd lose from disabling Sense. Anybody else have any other ideas?
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When you set the default HOME instead of HTC Sense as your default then the only thing you are really giving up are the HTC widgets and their custom UI. The dial pad is the HTC one and not the stock android one (thank goodness). The same goes for the other custom HTC apps like "people". You will still get your notifications and the phone will be fully functional.
Just changing the look and giving up some widgets
There are a bunch of home replacements in the market. Some of them are pretty cool.
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When you set the default HOME instead of HTC Sense as your default then the only thing you are really giving up are the HTC widgets and their custom UI. The dial pad is the HTC one and not the stock android one (thank goodness). The same goes for the other custom HTC apps like "people". You will still get your notifications and the phone will be fully functional.
Just changing the look and giving up some widgets
There are a bunch of home replacements in the market. Some of them are pretty cool.
It's kind of tempting then, because the original UI seems like it could be a little snappier, no? Widgets are easily replaced. Would disabling Sense have a positive effect on performance?
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I see a performance increase when using the stock android home. The screen orientation switches seem to be faster and the app dock is really quick. You only get 3 screens though and some of the HTC widgets are very nice. I think that beautiful widgets in the market has recreated a lot of the HTC widgets with some more options but that does cost some money.
just be aware that either way that you set "HOME" as your default the "HTC Sense" app is started up. I can boot up taskpanel and kill "HTC Sense" at that point but it will eventually start up in the background. Without rooting the phone I don't know of a way to stop it from starting up. It doesn't seem to use much in the way of resources when it's not activated though and the phone does seem to boot faster (although still quite slow). With one of the stock "scenes" my phone boots up to about 79MB of memory after killing some autostart apps like shopsavvy. With the default home it's closer to 110MB so there is some significant memory savings using the android home.
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I wanted a quick way to search my contacts without pressing multiple buttons and came across an app called quickdroid. Exactly what I was looking for. It is able to search all the content on your phone just like android search on 2.0 but without the google stuff integrated.
New guy, first post and yeah, a question lol
Coming over from a BB Pearl and still learning the Eris. Hoping the OS update will fix the non-premium yahoo email issues I'm having.
OK, questions. On the BB I could set each email account to have a different notification tone, haven't figured out how to do that on the Eris. Can it be done?
If/when I get all my email accounts back up, will they all come into the single mail box?
Is it possible to save a picture from the web browser?
OK, enough for now. Thanks in advance!
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