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Old February 25th, 2010, 10:06 AM   #501 (permalink)
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"1. Multiple Charges - It could only help... i do notice that when i do a "partial" charge it seems to make the battery last longer then on a full charge. I dunno, sounds like the whole thing where you're actually hungrier at lunch time if you had eaten a big breakfast than if you didnt eat anything at all..heh. Regardless, it seems the more you throw it on the charger the happier it is than if you just do a drain and recharge every day/night. Sounds obvious..i know."

As I understand the tech: Li-ion batteries will benefit from an initial "training period" of a couple cycles of full charge to complete drain, as well as an occasional repeat of this "conditioning" (every month or two). This helps the battery retain it's limits, max and min. They DO have a "memory", I have tested this.

The tough part about being as an#l as I am about treating a battery right is that when not stretching the limits of the battery, the Li-ion battery will have a better long term capacity if kept between 20% and 80% of it's full charge.

I think most people are fine with the occasional conditioning of the battery for maintenance.

I highly recommend the Seidio 1750mAh replacement battery, but treat it right or you'll have gremlins taking more than just your socks.
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My Eris is still awake 100% after the messaging fix, so could someone please list the other apps that also have this bug? I know it's been answered before someone in the gazillion posts in this thread, but I don't have the wherewithall to search them all!

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Too many to list! Is there a certain type that causes problems?
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2 weeks with the phone and still charging my phone 2x a day.

A few texts, maybe 3 calls, browse Facebook for a bit, check out the forums here, and the market a few times...

This battery is dying waaaaay to fast. I've charged it this morning and took it off the charger 20 minutes ago; sent 3 texts and changed my wall paper, and the battery is down to 94%!

I only have The Weather Channel widget running, Digital Clock and the usual apps that run at startup- Messages, Browser, Mail, but I killed the useless ones like Footprint, Voice Dialer, etc.

Brightness is down to like 30%, timeout is set to 15 seconds.

I really don't want to have to buy a new $69 battery just to be able to use my "Smart phone" or have to turn off Key features of the phone, like Mobile Network, etc.

I wonder if anyone actually tested the battery life before releasing the phone! LOL.

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I agree that you should not have to worry about battery life.
With the OEM battery unless I put it on a charger mid-day, it would be very low by evening.
I bucked up and bought the Seidio 1750 battery and I don't have to worry about the battery at all any more. I just put it on the charger when I go to bed and don't think about it otherwise.
HTC should have a better battery to begin with. Getting the 1750 let me stop worrying about if I had enough charge to last the day.
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2 weeks with the phone and still charging my phone 2x a day.

A few texts, maybe 3 calls, browse Facebook for a bit, check out the forums here, and the market a few times...

This battery is dying waaaaay to fast. I've charged it this morning and took it off the charger 20 minutes ago; sent 3 texts and changed my wall paper, and the battery is down to 94%!

I only have The Weather Channel widget running, Digital Clock and the usual apps that run at startup- Messages, Browser, Mail, but I killed the useless ones like Footprint, Voice Dialer, etc.

Brightness is down to like 30%, timeout is set to 15 seconds.

I really don't want to have to buy a new $69 battery just to be able to use my "Smart phone" or have to turn off Key features of the phone, like Mobile Network, etc.

I wonder if anyone actually tested the battery life before releasing the phone! LOL.

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Make sure your GPS of off and the weather channel widget isn't polling for information. Those weather apps usually try to find your location, draining the battery faster.
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My Eris is still awake 100% after the messaging fix, so could someone please list the other apps that also have this bug? I know it's been answered before someone in the gazillion posts in this thread, but I don't have the wherewithall to search them all!

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Download spare parts and check the CPU cycles and partial wake usage categories. That should tell you what app is constantly running.
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Just got the updated Spare Parts and there's a new feature called Activity/Process Management and you can choose between Aggressive and Normal(Defualt). I guess it will end tasks and manage memory more quickly. It warns you of doing this, of course. I enabled aggressive and will try to report back any findings. There's also ads now...

UPDATE: First observation, it has to keep launching Sense... deal-breaker. Back to default on that one.
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Noticed that it killed sense too. I wouldn't uninstall just leave it on normal. I emailed the dev. Still waiting on a reply
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Hello. I just got my eris about a month ago. I love the Android layout use to have the storm but this is way better. I'm having a problem with charging and insufficient battery. It takes 3-4 hours to charge from 10% to full I looked and seen I was running around 94% to 100% awake. I did the messing fix and turned off WiFi and Bluetooth. Also turn brightness to 25%. Still runs high 87% and up, now I hardly turn the phone off also have a few widgets and a good bit of app, what can I do to get a better battery. I have to charge it every night, is that normal I mean I use my phone from lil to average through out the day. Any suggestions?
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Don't have an issue with everyday battery life. I use a 110 charger @home, 12 volt in the car, and data cable @work. More of a concern is overall battery life. My lg8350 Li was charged and charged, and lasted for the two years I had the phone. What life expectancy will I get with this battry?
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Noob question here about the battery. When you do a "Battery Pull" do you pull it out with the power on to get the desired result or do you manually turn the power off on the device via the red "end call" button and then pull the battery? I can't imagine anything would happen if you pulled the battery after you turned it off... Am I wrong?
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I applied all the tips from this thread, yet my Eris will not sleep. Any ideas why this is still happening? Should I do a master reset and then do it all again?

the battery life on the eris makes me very sad. but coming from a person who just recently upgraded from the env2 w/ no data pkg i can understand why this happens. Anyhow, my awake time is still at 100% and i just downloaded chomp sms and rebooted. i have the advanced task killer app as well and just made it so it doesn't start up when the phone reboots- hopefully that will help. but it still says 100% awake
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the battery life on the eris makes me very sad. but coming from a person who just recently upgraded from the env2 w/ no data pkg i can understand why this happens. Anyhow, my awake time is still at 100% and i just downloaded chomp sms and rebooted. i have the advanced task killer app as well and just made it so it doesn't start up when the phone reboots- hopefully that will help. but it still says 100% awake
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Your awake time is always at 100% when you just turn on your phone. It will gradually go down as you don't use it.
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Just to make sure. When Awake time is high that mean battery drainage AND slow app loading and lag? Or just battery drain?
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Just to make sure. When Awake time is high that mean battery drainage AND slow app loading and lag? Or just battery drain?
Little bit of both.
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I agree that you should not have to worry about battery life.
With the OEM battery unless I put it on a charger mid-day, it would be very low by evening.
I bucked up and bought the Seidio 1750 battery and I don't have to worry about the battery at all any more. I just put it on the charger when I go to bed and don't think about it otherwise.
HTC should have a better battery to begin with. Getting the 1750 let me stop worrying about if I had enough charge to last the day.
Same results here.
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Seidio 1750 battery is 1/8 oz lighter than the OEM 1300 battery.

Seems good so far. Hopefully doesn't die in a year.

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I had the browser on all day, started at about 5:15am (0515 hours) until now(2033 hours) 8:33pm and my battery is down to 23%. Several text messages, phone calls, and a few e mails recieved. I run Advanced Task Killer and usually kill the browser when I'm not using it....but I didn't today and it seemed to run the battery down faster. I leave the clock, Gmail, weather, messages, mail apps on usually.....anything wrong with killing the browser when I'm not using it (on the web etc.)? Any opinions about how I'm running my Eris?

The next day I "killed" the browser and did not notice a performance difference but in approximately 12 hours I have 72% battery left.....
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My battery lasts an acceptable amount of time but i do have a question about awake time. I have changed to handcent sms and used to get a pretty decent awake time around 20% or so but lately it has been up around 67-70%. i have uninstalled some apps that i think might be causing the problem but if my battery is holding charge fairly well, should i worry abt an awake time that long? my phone has been off the charger today since 0700 and it is now 2155 and i have 33% remaining. pretty moderate use with calls, txt, some facebook and internet. mobile network on all day and wifi on when at home.
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I tried the SMS change twice, following all the steps...and my awake time is still at 100%...help!
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@georgiagirl try turning your phone off then turning your phone back on. as soon as it wakes up(comes to the lock screen and showing that you have service) hit the end key and put your phone to sleep. let it sit for a few minutes, then check your awake time. Also some apps and widgets prevent your phone from sleeping. What apps do you have?
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What's the point of having a cell phone if you then turn off the mobile network.
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What's the point of having a cell phone if you then turn off the mobile network.
I know many who use smart phones mostly for the msgs/email and news but make very few phone calls. Personally, my Eris sits with 1X most of the time so I can make/receive calls and at different intervals I activate 3G & GV to get my text msgs, emails and RSS news then turn them off. If I'm at a wifi location I will activate wifi instead of 3G to do the same routine.

Just using the approach that works best for me!

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What's the point of having a cell phone if you then turn off the mobile network.
This is such a tired argument. The point Isnt to turn It off and keep it off. The idea is to turn it off when Ur phone is in your pocket, ur in a meeting, or otherwise occupied with something other than ur phone.
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Using Battery Use (Nifty built in add on to 2.1)

"15h 11m 43s since unplugged"

Cell Standby: 50%
Android System 19%
Phone Idle 14%
WiFi 8%
Display 5%
Voice Calls 4%

Battery life = 40%

Damn, I love 2.1. I also turned off locations services for a bit, turning it back on now. I was at work all day and had wi-fi on the whole time. i'm home now and have 3g on to test my battery.

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Using Battery Use (Nifty built in add on to 2.1)

"15h 11m 43s since unplugged"

Cell Standby: 50%
Android System 19%
Phone Idle 14%
WiFi 8%
Display 5%
Voice Calls 4%

Battery life = 40%

Damn, I love 2.1. I also turned off locations services for a bit, turning it back on now. I was at work all day and had wi-fi on the whole time. i'm home now and have 3g on to test my battery.

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I noticed that there are some additional Wifi settings. Do you keep it on all the time, only until plugged in, or until the screen shuts off?

I changed my setting to never turn wifi off. I'm assuming that this will still use less battery than 3g. Although, i noticed not all of my apps will work properly over Wifi.
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..that's a horrible option. Wi-Fi should only be on if you're like, at home, at a friends, ect. Why would you want wi-fi on as you drive/walk around? o.o
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..that's a horrible option. Wi-Fi should only be on if you're like, at home, at a friends, ect. Why would you want wi-fi on as you drive/walk around? o.o
I toggle it off completely with the widget when I leave my home (then the 3g turns itself on). I guess I wasn't clear. While you have a wifi connection at home, do you leave it on even when the phone sleeps? I've noticed that mine would disconnect (at home) when I put my phone to sleep, until I changed the advanced setting.
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Ohhhh. Yes. You mean when the phone sleeps, is it one. I think so, when I woke up I had new messages. it didn't kill the battery though. Interesting...
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This is such a tired argument. The point Isnt to turn It off and keep it off. The idea is to turn it off when Ur phone is in your pocket, ur in a meeting, or otherwise occupied with something other than ur phone.

It's absolutely ridiculous to ever turn off the mobile network. Just turn off the whole phone then.

Do you turn off your phone at home at any time? The whole point is to be able to receive calls wherever and whenever. Otherwise why have a cell phone at all.

First and foremost it is a PHONE for heaven's sakes.
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It's absolutely ridiculous to ever turn off the mobile network. Just turn off the whole phone then.

Do you turn off your phone at home at any time? The whole point is to be able to receive calls wherever and whenever. Otherwise why have a cell phone at all.

First and foremost it is a PHONE for heaven's sakes.
Turning off mobile network only shuts off data... phone and texts still come through.
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What he said. you turn off 3g to save battery by keeping apps and services that run data automatically from doing so when it not using those features, while concurrently keeping it phone available to incoming calls and texts.
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Turning off mobile network only shuts off data... phone and texts still come through.
CXXV doesn't understand the difference between the data side and the phone/text side. Everyone uses their phones as best suits their individual needs!
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CXXV doesn't understand the difference between the data side and the phone/text side. Everyone uses their phones as best suits their individual needs!
I do. But on other phones, namely BB's, turning off mobile turns off everything. That was a great feature for night time.

This was never made clear.
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I do. But on other phones, namely BB's, turning off mobile turns off everything. That was a great feature for night time.

This was never made clear.
If you want the phone completely off at night, put it in Airplane Mode. That will shut off everything.
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I do. But on other phones, namely BB's, turning off mobile turns off everything. That was a great feature for night time.

This was never made clear.
I liked that when you turned off your BB it would turn itself back on to sound your alarm. That was a nice feature. I just turn off the mobile network when I sleep now and I kinda notice a little difference the next day. Probably just my imagination though.
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I liked that when you turned off your BB it would turn itself back on to sound your alarm. That was a nice feature. I just turn off the mobile network when I sleep now and I kinda notice a little difference the next day. Probably just my imagination though.
If you turn off your mobile network, you should definitely notice a difference! By shutting my mobile network off while sleeping, I can charge every other day, rather than daily.
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It's absolutely ridiculous to ever turn off the mobile network. Just turn off the whole phone then.

Do you turn off your phone at home at any time? The whole point is to be able to receive calls wherever and whenever. Otherwise why have a cell phone at all.

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If you turn off your mobile network, you should definitely notice a difference! By shutting my mobile network off while sleeping, I can charge every other day, rather than daily.
I still charge it every night because my usage varies. I've always done that with my phones though so no big deal.
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Is there a specific Seido 1750 battery? Or just the one called that.
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Is there a specific Seido 1750 battery? Or just the one called that.

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From what I gather after skimming/reading this thread, the 3g isn't auto turned off when wifi is on and connected at home. Even tho I don't see the little 3g icon on the bar. So it would be best for me to manually toggle it off when home. And manually toggle wifi when driving unless I am doing drive-by searches for free internet.
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From what I gather after skimming/reading this thread, the 3g isn't auto turned off when wifi is on and connected at home. Even tho I don't see the little 3g icon on the bar. So it would be best for me to manually toggle it off when home. And manually toggle wifi when driving unless I am doing drive-by searches for free internet.
When I'm at home connected wifi I turn Mobile off or if I'm giong to be somewhere wehre I know I'm not going to be using my phone unless I get at call or text I shut mobile off. But I can get over 2 days of battery out of my Eris with pretty much normal activity
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If you turn Mobile Network off you still recieve calls and texts . You just need to turn it back on when you want to access anything over the web.. I have a toggle on my screen so that when I'm at work, or just not going to be using my phone I turn it off. Makes a huge diffrence in battery life. It basiclly makes your phone a regular phone using just the regular 1x network
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I am curious. My wife and I both have the eris and do not want to get rid of these phones. Really like them. We are considering grabbing the 3500 battery for each of our phones, but what do you do about the cover if you are using one. My wife picked ours up and mine is the snap on black leather from verizon and hers is a standard silicone cover from verizon. I am curious if either if these covers will work if we get the 3500 and the little bit of difference in size on it. I do not know if she got a better price than online shows, but mine showed $24.99 for a freaking cover and I would rather not have to buy another one, but I do not like the feel without it.
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I am curious. My wife and I both have the eris and do not want to get rid of these phones. Really like them. We are considering grabbing the 3500 battery for each of our phones, but what do you do about the cover if you are using one. My wife picked ours up and mine is the snap on black leather from verizon and hers is a standard silicone cover from verizon. I am curious if either if these covers will work if we get the 3500 and the little bit of difference in size on it. I do not know if she got a better price than online shows, but mine showed $24.99 for a freaking cover and I would rather not have to buy another one, but I do not like the feel without it.
The 3500 is a bigger battery and requires the new back that comes with. If you get it your case won't fit anymore. No idea if they make cases to fit with that though.
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