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Old April 21st, 2010, 05:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Headphones with built in mic and controls

I am currently an iPhone user and I like to listen to music a lot on my phone, even though they really are not great earbuds I love the built in mic and button on the earbuds. I really like the new designs they have with the volume included on the controller but I find it pretty easy just to use the volume controls in my pocket as my 2G iPhone doesn't support them.

I was looking for a new pair of earbuds as mine are falling apart after 2 years of use. I'm mainly concerned as to wether the controls will work with the EVO because the Klipsch S4i which was I was looking at seems to not work with android. I was wondering if anyone knows of headphones that do and possibly some recommendations. I'm not a huge audiophile and the $100 for the S4i was kind of breaking the bank so something a little cheaper would be nice.


Here is what my iPhone headphones can do
Single press starts music in any app and pauses it while playing
Double press skips song
Triple press goes back a song
When the phone is ringing press the button to pause the music and answer the call, music resumes after the call is done
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Lots of cell phone headphones have integrated mics but I don't know about the extended functionality of media player control. Sounds like it would have to be specific to a phone or at least the OS because it would have to pass that signal down the wire by breaking a circuit or whatever and then have the media player recognize that as a command.
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Those commands you are talking about are built into the iPhone's media player. They would have to be built into the Android music player for them to work. I have no idea if Android supports them.
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That's why I am asking because once you have controls on your headphones and never have to take your phone out of your pocket there is no going back.

I know there are plenty of iPhone compatible headsets with controls but I just don't know if there is a way to get them to work with android. The earbuds just have a standard 3 ringed connection so I'm guessing that when you press the button it sends a signal down the mic wire. I assume there has to be some how but I want to know before I plunk down for an EVO and some new earbuds.
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I think the EVO supports A2DP bluetooth technology, which mean you can have a stereo bluetooth devices. Mine has a button for answer/drop a call, a button for pause/play, a button each for next track, previous track, volume up and volume down. I wold check it out if I were you.
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I took a quick poke around an accessory store and found this:

HTC Wired Remote Control Stereo Headset for CellularSouth HTC Hero / HTC Hero, Magic / Sprint Hero / T-Mobile myTouch 3G, myTouch 3G Fender - Android Central Store

Seems there needs to be an add-on driver for it. Though comments left are unclear whether it actually does work for Android or not.

In either case, I think this is worth a bit more research. I listen to music using Etymotic ER-6i's via my iPod, while riding my motorcycle, and would love to have a fully integrated solution to work with the Evo. The Etymotic hf2's are close but would love to also be able to control music and such as these can.
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I took a quick poke around an accessory store and found this:

HTC Wired Remote Control Stereo Headset for CellularSouth HTC Hero / HTC Hero, Magic / Sprint Hero / T-Mobile myTouch 3G, myTouch 3G Fender - Android Central Store

Seems there needs to be an add-on driver for it. Though comments left are unclear whether it actually does work for Android or not.

In either case, I think this is worth a bit more research. I listen to music using Etymotic ER-6i's via my iPod, while riding my motorcycle, and would love to have a fully integrated solution to work with the Evo. The Etymotic hf2's are close but would love to also be able to control music and such as these can.
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I took a quick poke around an accessory store and found this:

HTC Wired Remote Control Stereo Headset for CellularSouth HTC Hero / HTC Hero, Magic / Sprint Hero / T-Mobile myTouch 3G, myTouch 3G Fender - Android Central Store

Seems there needs to be an add-on driver for it. Though comments left are unclear whether it actually does work for Android or not.

In either case, I think this is worth a bit more research. I listen to music using Etymotic ER-6i's via my iPod, while riding my motorcycle, and would love to have a fully integrated solution to work with the Evo. The Etymotic hf2's are close but would love to also be able to control music and such as these can.
I saw this a few months ago when I was looking for the same thing and the reason I didn't buy it is because theres still the two exact reviews there as last time. One very good one very bad, which is why i didnt buy it
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Further research indicates that there's no Android based solution available. It only works with WinMo phones.

Though I wonder what it'd really take, to develop drivers to accomplish this.
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I just found these, the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980. Being bluetooth, this eliminates the need for aftermarket drivers that'd be needed for a wired solution. I think I found my next earbuds!

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I just found these, the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980. Being bluetooth, this eliminates the need for aftermarket drivers that'd be needed for a wired solution. I think I found my next earbuds!

Sony Ericsson - Products - Accessories - Overview - HBH-DS980
Look up the reviews on these. Lots say they have issues with durability.

Static/crosstalk has been a problem with BT stereo headphones, esp. if any type of noise-cancellation is a part of the mic.

I'm still looking for an Android-specific wired headphone set with mic, but they just don't seem to be prevalent yet. Most of the reviews I've seen said ones build for iPod/Phone control don't have full functionality with Android.

Wonder why there hasn't been a rush to come up with Android-compatible headsets? Has anything from xda for drivers been released?
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Android has AVRCP functionality in 2.1 so any headset with pause, play or whatever should work out of the box.

Sorry for the misinformation, Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
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People still seem to be having trouble with wired headsets. I think AVRCP is for bluetooth devices.
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People still seem to be having trouble with wired headsets. I think AVRCP is for bluetooth devices.

Yes I was just coming back to retract that.
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Seriously, the first credible maker with Android-specific wired headsets of good quality and high-value is going to make a killing. If I ran one of the OEMs that's not selling enough iPhone product, I'd have a whole line up and running by now.

Funny, this is where I would have expected Sony or some other company who can't really generate huge iPhone set sales to have already made the switch. Right now the only option I could find was the MH700 but they don't list it as being Android-specific.
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Hope the Klipsch S4i work with EVO
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For what it's worth, I wound up settling for a Bluetooth solution instead:

Sennheiser MM-200

They've been treating me real well the past few weeks with my Palm Pre. All I did was order a set of Custom Foam eartips, for additional comfort & noise isolation.
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For what it's worth, I wound up settling for a Bluetooth solution instead:

Sennheiser MM-200

They've been treating me real well the past few weeks with my Palm Pre. All I did was order a set of Custom Foam eartips, for additional comfort & noise isolation.
Thanks. Those are on my "Maybe" list, but I've just never been able to find a pair of BT sets that have the same sound as wired sets. I've had Ultimate Ears Super.fi 5vis, and I just want something with as much bottom and top end. I've already heard from a friend with an Android phone that they aren't 100% compatible so it's mostly just play, pause, and skip that work. He has issues once a call comes in and he just wants to go back to music controls.
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Hope the Klipsch S4i work with EVO
it doesn't. they stated on their website that controls only work with later models of the iphone/ipod touch.
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Thanks. Those are on my "Maybe" list, but I've just never been able to find a pair of BT sets that have the same sound as wired sets. I've had Ultimate Ears Super.fi 5vis, and I just want something with as much bottom and top end. I've already heard from a friend with an Android phone that they aren't 100% compatible so it's mostly just play, pause, and skip that work. He has issues once a call comes in and he just wants to go back to music controls.
Fair enough.

The way I see it, you're making a trade-off. Do you want remote control capabilities? If so, you're pretty much stuck going with a bluetooth solution, while sacrificing some audio quality.

That being said, comparing my Sennheiser MM-200s vs plugging in my Etymotic ER6i's, the difference in audio quality is quite small. If you have a super keen ear, you may notice it. I generally find myself in noisier environments, so it's far harder for me to fully hear the smaller differences that get lost with environmental background noise. And that's why the MM-200's are just fine for me.
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Since this has been brought up, and EVO doesn't come with earphones. Is there any HTC earphones w/ mic that anyone would recommend? This is my personal favorite set up with phones. I can't get with bluetooth for whatever reason and i don't want to hold a phone to my head all day turn my brains to mush.
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These headphones from iFrogz look cool. Not sure how they work with the Evo, though.

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Seriously, the first credible maker with Android-specific wired headsets of good quality and high-value is going to make a killing. If I ran one of the OEMs that's not selling enough iPhone product, I'd have a whole line up and running by now.

Funny, this is where I would have expected Sony or some other company who can't really generate huge iPhone set sales to have already made the switch. Right now the only option I could find was the MH700 but they don't list it as being Android-specific.
If we're talking about regular TRRS 3.5mm jacks, there's no such thing as a manufacturer specific headphone from a hardware standpoint. It's a software dependant solution. The mic/center button grounds a signal momentarily and it's dependent on the iPhone, Palm, or Android device to pick that up and interpret the signal correspondingly -- to pause music, pick up a phone call, etc.

I'd be interested in knowing if Android devices do this. I do know that my Palm Pre can pick up/hang up phone calls, play/pause music on single taps, and advance songs with a double tap. Notably, the triple tap to reverse tracks as found on the iPhone is not built into WebOS.
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I have seen a lot of suggestions for bluetooth headsets . . . will the FM radio tuner still work with a bluetooth headset? It is my understanding the wired headset is required for it to use as an antenna?
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I have seen a lot of suggestions for bluetooth headsets . . . will the FM radio tuner still work with a bluetooth headset? It is my understanding the wired headset is required for it to use as an antenna?
I don't believe it will as the wired headset acts as the FM antenna. I just bought a pair of Eytomic HF2 which are highly praised. I don't like to use bluetooth for listening to music and much prefer high end cans. They retail for $179 but you can find them cheaper elsewhere. They also have the controls for pausing, FF and RW, but I don't think it'll work with Android. But what I was looking for was great headphone with mic, the multimedia button is gravy if works.
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HF2? What are those? I still need to get my hands on some ER-4s...

EDIT: Ah. They're ER-4s with handset controls built in? (I assume that they're ER-4s because of the size of the driver enclosure.)
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I need a wired headset with mic on this phone... will try the OEM blackberry, hopefully it works somewhat. or else i am lost =(
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Anyone checked these out? They say it is compatible with the Evo.

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You have it backwards. The real question is, is the Evo compatible with it. I've been trying to say, these features are a phone/hardware side issue, not with the headphones. People need to test the Evo with any set of headphones with controls.
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Anyone checked these out? They say it is compatible with the Evo.

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Doesn't mention any volume control which to me is more important then anything.
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Is this another one of those fixes that are in Froyo but not 2.1? Weird that Android sets have been out for a while now but no good wired headset solutions are available. While it may be necessary to add drivers or do something to the Android OS code, this just seems like a noticeable gap that should be closed by now. It's not a deal breaker, but it is tremendously annoying.
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I think a problem for manufacturers may be in the different platforms
that you can get android on. What will work on the evo may not
work on the moto droid even though they both have android os.
Much easier to develop for iPhone ipad and iPod, since hardware will
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I think a problem for manufacturers may be in the different platforms
that you can get android on. What will work on the evo may not
work on the moto droid even though they both have android os.
Much easier to develop for iPhone ipad and iPod, since hardware will
be compatible.
Is the audio/mic feature that well integrated that it can't be fixed with updates in Android? This is one of the things Google will have to solve if that's the case.
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I know with BB some apps work with wired controls like Pandora and some don't.
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bluetooth ftw! a2dp/avrcp wires are so 90's...
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I have a pair of Ultimate Ears 220v that worked well with my Palm Pre. On the EVO, they only play and pause, I can't double click for next track. A double click on the EVO redialed the last person I called.
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Sorry for my ignorance, but I am looking for a pair of headphones with a mic. When you guys say that they don't work with the Evo, does that mean that the controls (skip song, pick up call etc) don't work with the Evo, or that the microphone itself isn't going to work, even if i manually answer the call?

I was looking at the Bose headphone w/mic, but Bose support emailed me back and said that the Evo wasn't supported.
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To throw another into the mix...

I've been using a Plantronix 855 stereo BT that has worked great on the Hero, 1.5 & 2.1 both. No issues at all, and in 2.1 it recognizes it even if I've used my H710 in between. That's a thought!
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Anyone checked these out? They say it is compatible with the Evo.

OEM HTC Stereo Hands-Free Headset with Remote for HTC 36H00880-04M - HTC EVO 4G Accessories

I just bought these. Great price, and it has the features I need. I always hit the volume on the device itself anyway. Play/Pause and Skip is all I ever used on my iPhone, so these are perfect. Thanks was given.
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I just bought these. Great price, and it has the features I need. I always hit the volume on the device itself anyway. Play/Pause and Skip is all I ever used on my iPhone, so these are perfect. Thanks was given.
Can you listen to the FM radio with these head phones as well?
 
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Can you listen to the FM radio with these head phones as well?
Any wired headphone will work. Even any wire will work; if you were to connect the Evo to speakers with a simple 3.5mm to 3.5mm jack, the FM radio will work.
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Just to shed a small amount of light on this subject...

I have the apple "in-ear" headphones (earbuds) with remote and mic... left over from the days when I had an iphone (thanks to the EVO those days are over for good).

Amazon.com: Apple In-ear Headphones with Remote & Mic: Electronics

Anyway...

The remote and mic integrated on this headset surprisingly *sort-of* work on the EVO 4G!

Earbuds : Sound good... no contact problems (i know some of these multi-contact jacks work horrible with certain plugs)

Mic : Works great, just used it on a phone call and there were no complaints.

Remote : I only have experience with the Pandora app on android so far... but while listening to Pandora...

1-Click on the center button pauses/resumes playback.

2 or more Clicks on the center button tries to skip to the next track but it results in Pandora exiting and the phone dials your last dialed phone number.

Holding the center button launches the voice dial application.

The volume up/down buttons do nothing.

So... more functionality than I thought would be there. Just glad the earbuds/mic work good. I was going to buy a new set for this phone... but I might actually keep using these earbuds (just wish they were black, I hate apple-white).
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I am a Professional Wrench, While working on cars I would prefer to leave my EVO on my tool box (to keep it safe from damage & clean), I am trying to find out if there is a 802.11g Wireless option (or other) that would allow me to wander more than the 30 foot limit of Bluetooth while my EVO is SYNCed with my employers router and being able to listen to the Sirius / XM App or Music stored on the EVO and still be able to answer calls & Place Voice activated calls...

Any recomendations?
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i have the klipsch s4i earbuds. I didn't buy them for my evo but bought them bc they're an awesome pair of earbuds and the store didn't have the s4. The volume buttons don't work but the answer button does have some limited functionality. It can answer, end, and dial out the most recent call. Sound-wise they sound great for the money. Better in many ways then my shure earbuds.

Forgot to mention the answer button will also work as a play/pause button for music.
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I've tried 7 headphones with mic controls at different price levels raging from $20. to $110.. The issue with mic controls not working to full capacity has to do with the software and not the headphone type. The HTC Hero as well other Androids have the same problem. Case in point, I came across an app for the HTC hero that fixes this issue just for HTC Hero. The developer blames HTC for not addressing this. So hopefully it'll be a matter of time before someone develops an app for the EVO.

In the mean time the only control that works is turning the music on/off on any of the one's I've tried. BTW, among the headphones with mic that I tried were a pair from Apple made for the iphone at $79. dollars. They had the worst quaility sound.

The one's I found to be the best for me, are the Sony MDR-EX38ip. They're made for the Iphone and sold at Radio Shack but in my opinion they deliver superior sound quality at $39.99. They're recommended by Radio Shack employees as best for the EVO and they're hard to come by because they sell out quickly here in the NYC area. I use them with "MIXZING", an app from the Android market. Mixzing has it's bugs but it has an equalizer which allows you to control the sound of your music. There's a free and a paid version. I'm using the free and it's buggy but they've making updates and improvements. Not perfect yet but did work for me without a problem on a rooted rom, OMJ version from XDA developers. Not advocating rooting since it can leave you hanging and no where to turn for immediate help if something goes wrong. It also voids your warranty. This is my first response post so, please be kind.
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i went bluetooth route and got plantronics backbeat 903 for $50 at Frys, they now have the 906 model for about $15 more i think. THey are good but the over the ear style, not cool looking but do the job and you can use them with nearly all the features u mentioned, they keep a good charge and do the job for me. im not a huge music listener though
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These came w/ my nexus one and work fine. Fit and sound leave something to be desired tho. I'm thinking since these work, and also work on MANY other phones including BB's and iPhones, that any headphones that work w/ iPhones and BB's will work more or less functionally w/ an Android phone. Does that rationale work, or is my reasoning flawed?

I'm seriously looking at the UE SuperFi 5vi. Just as long as the mic works I'm good, but the button would be a plus.
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These came w/ my nexus one and work fine. Fit and sound leave something to be desired tho. I'm thinking since these work, and also work on MANY other phones including BB's and iPhones, that any headphones that work w/ iPhones and BB's will work more or less functionally w/ an Android phone. Does that rationale work, or is my reasoning flawed?

I'm seriously looking at the UE SuperFi 5vi. Just as long as the mic works I'm good, but the button would be a plus.
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If we're talking about regular TRRS 3.5mm jacks, there's no such thing as a manufacturer specific headphone from a hardware standpoint. It's a software dependant solution. The mic/center button grounds a signal momentarily and it's dependent on the iPhone, Palm, or Android device to pick that up and interpret the signal correspondingly -- to pause music, pick up a phone call, etc.
As my earlier post notes -- if the software on the phone supports it, then the headphones are irrelevant, they are universal.

I have the UE SuperFi 5vi as well and they work great.
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