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Old May 24th, 2010, 07:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I came across these two lenses you can attach to your evo (or other smart phone).


HTC Evo 4G Magnet Mount Conversion Lens, FREE Shipping, HTC Evo 4G PHONE Magnet Mount Conversion Lens


HTC Evo 4G Fish Eye Lens FE-50, FREE Shipping, HTC Evo 4G PHONE Fish Eye Lens FE-50

I might have to pick up that macro lens. If it works out, the fish eye looks fun!

$20 isn't really that much to drop for something like this.

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I have the fisheye for my Harinezumi camera. You have to be pretty careful sticking on the metal ring, so it doesn't get in the way of the lens
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didnt know these lenses existed for phones.. thx.. picking up both..
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i will like to hear details before buying. hopefully some of you can chime in before i hit the buy button
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It is a quite well made lens. It works by sticking a thin metal washer type ring round the lens of the camera, to which the lens attaches to the ring by a magnet. You get some great effects with these lenses but like I said above, you have to make sure the sticky metal ring does not get in the way of the lens or you will get a massive vignetting effect
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I'll hold out on purchasing till I see other people test them out on their EVO's and see the quality of the pictures.
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I'll hold out on purchasing till I see other people test them out on their EVO's and see the quality of the pictures.
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$20 for a fisheye lens is a heck of a deal
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I'm very interested in the macro lens. Can't wait to see how it works out for y'all so I can decide if I want one.
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Very interesting if anyone is willing too see how well they work please post back and let rest of us know.
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Interesting - does anyone think that the metal ring that is attached to the camera might be the solution for the flush camera lens?
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Naw....the ring is small....like 3/8ths small.
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Does the metal ring actually have to be glued on? Is it all magnetic? Don't want to be going all Arts and Crafts on my new Evo!
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You don't actually want to think of it as a macro lens... the "macro" simply means that it's able to focus on an object at fairly close distances -- it's primary purpose is that of a wide angle, actually "zooming out" what you would normally see to fit more into the frame.

Macro lenses are often prime or zoom lenses to allow photographers to get closer to their subject.
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once the other lens gets in stock im buying! if no one else posts on it.. i sure will... diidnt know this existed... pretty cool... although i do wonder how the barrel of the lens will effect the led flash! i also wonder if the lenses are fast or slow.... wont know until i try...
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i also wonder if the lenses are fast or slow.... wont know until i try...
Fast or slow? They are a piece of glass that you attach to a cellphone camera, so they are as fast as the speed of light...

And to be honest if I saw someone using one of these things I would probably laugh myself to death, it's a cellphone guys not a DSLR. Buy yourself a cheap used point and shoot if you want decent photos, would be much better than an EVO. But to each their own.
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Fast or slow? They are a piece of glass that you attach to a cellphone camera, so they are as fast as the speed of light...

And to be honest if I saw someone using one of these things I would probably laugh myself to death, it's a cellphone guys not a DSLR. Buy yourself a cheap used point and shoot if you want decent photos, would be much better than an EVO. But to each their own.
Fast/Slow are photography terms. Fast lenses let in a lot of light, and allow for a shorter exposure, slow lenses are the opposite.
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Fast/Slow are photography terms. Fast lenses let in a lot of light, and allow for a shorter exposure, slow lenses are the opposite.
My mistake for some reason I was thinking about focusing and shutter lag, reading way too many EVO reviews...
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I am considering the macro for taking pics when I would NOT like to carry my evo and a camera, but need a macro shot or something. I randomly have a need for it, so this would help me out if it is actually a good lens.
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Very good find. I'll add it to the "All Forum Links" thread.

I'll be getting one myself. It will sure make the EVO more unique. I can see my friends now. What the hell is that. That my friends is the Home Land Security camera. lol

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Does the metal ring actually have to be glued on? Is it all magnetic? Don't want to be going all Arts and Crafts on my new Evo!


The metal ring is quite tacky on one side. No glue involved...and mine, at least, came with an extra ring
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Fast/Slow are photography terms. Fast lenses let in a lot of light, and allow for a shorter exposure, slow lenses are the opposite.

I do believe that these nothing more than a piece of plastic and a piece of glass, no moving parts.
So that would not apply.
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If you check out the other stuff offered at the store - this website seems to me to be the "monoprice.com" of cel phone accessories - how can they sell the stuff at those prices?
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For the fisheye you could just use the FX Camera app rather than spending $20 to accomplish the same thing.
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im old school and prefer in camera techniques as opposed to software.. plus, as TS said.. it makes the evo a little more unique..

thanks to the poster who stated what i meant about the lenses.. i have a pretty good digital still camera that i carry with me as well...


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anyone explain what value there is to these lenses?
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anyone explain what value there is to these lenses?
They give you different effects for your pictures, without using software to acheive them.
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Hmm, I'd also be interested in someone doing a small review or impressions on this when they get it
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Here is another alternative

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i also wonder if the lenses are fast or slow.... wont know until i try...
Fast or slow would only apply to a lens that had its aperture built into it -- in this case, the aperture (I'm assuming) is fixed in the EVO. Regardless, it's contained within the phone, so your shutter speed is controlled by the ISO the phone selects and the amount of available light.

These are more teleconverters than actual lenses for an SLR.
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anyone explain what value there is to these lenses?
The wide angle will take what your camera sees and magnify it by .67. That is, instead of zooming in, it's actually going to zoom you out by about 1/3 -- essentially, it'll allow you to be closer to a scene and take in more of it without having to back up.

The fisheye is definitely more of an effect lens. Fisheye, by definition, allows to to see close to a 180 field of view in front of you at the expense of an extreme circular distortion pattern in the photograph -- it's very popular for shooting extreme sports (snowboarding, skateboarding, etc).

I did a similar mod on my FlipHD Ultra that required me supergluing the adapter ring to the body of the camera.

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Super Macro Your Cellphone Camera With A DVD Lens | DIYPhotography.net

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How large is this ring? Will it be a problem with a silicon case on the phone, like the one from Seidio?
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No, but you know... the vignetting certainly has a distinct artistic quality to it. Nice find.
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I do believe that these nothing more than a piece of plastic and a piece of glass, no moving parts.
So that would not apply.
Yes, it still applies.

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Fast or slow would only apply to a lens that had its aperture built into it -- in this case, the aperture (I'm assuming) is fixed in the EVO. Regardless, it's contained within the phone, so your shutter speed is controlled by the ISO the phone selects and the amount of available light.

These are more teleconverters than actual lenses for an SLR.
That's untrue. The quality of the optics has a lot to do with light transmission as well. Good glass will require a shorter exposure time than poor glass.
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How large is this ring? Will it be a problem with a silicon case on the phone, like the one from Seidio?


I don't think so. The thickness of the ring is about 1/16 of an inch
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That's untrue. The quality of the optics has a lot to do with light transmission as well. Good glass will require a shorter exposure time than poor glass.
No, the quality of the glass has very little to do with the transmission of the light... if the glass is clear, light will transmit at the same frequency and intensity.

I have an $1800 Canon 70-200 f/2.8L lens, a $1300 Canon 24-50 f/2.8L lens and a $100 Canon 50 f/1.8 lens and, at the same aperture, shutter speed and ISO on the same scene will all create photographs at the same level of brightness.

On top of that, I slap on a $20 clear filter, just for protection which -- even though it's a very cheap piece of glass -- has absolutely no effect on the level of light allowed to fall onto the sensor.

Now, if you have a very dirty lens, or you start slapping on NGD filters or polarizers, then yeah -- that's what they're designed to do. But if the glass is clear, it's going to have a negligible effect.
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I hope you can still use the flash with the fish-eye as well as the macro-lens. If the you guys reviewed it with great success, I'll probably get one of these too.
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Have this same lens. Cannot be beat for the price! It's ridiculously good.
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Have this same lens. Cannot be beat for the price! It's ridiculously good.
I'd be happier if the autofocus was a little faster, but it's still my "goto" portraiture lens when I want an insane depth of field. It was my first lens.

Nowadays I'll keep the 24-70 on my 50D unless I really need the compression of my long glass.
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Nice find. However, everything on the site says HTC EVO 4G. How much of that is a businessman jumping on the HTC Evo bandwagon to sell more stuff rather than the item made specifically for the Evo?
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No, the quality of the glass has very little to do with the transmission of the light... if the glass is clear, light will transmit at the same frequency and intensity.

I have an $1800 Canon 70-200 f/2.8L lens, a $1300 Canon 24-50 f/2.8L lens and a $100 Canon 50 f/1.8 lens and, at the same aperture, shutter speed and ISO on the same scene will all create photographs at the same level of brightness.

On top of that, I slap on a $20 clear filter, just for protection which -- even though it's a very cheap piece of glass -- has absolutely no effect on the level of light allowed to fall onto the sensor.

Now, if you have a very dirty lens, or you start slapping on NGD filters or polarizers, then yeah -- that's what they're designed to do. But if the glass is clear, it's going to have a negligible effect.
I disagree, but to each their own.

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Have this same lens. Cannot be beat for the price! It's ridiculously good.
Unfortunately the autofocus motor on mine shits the bed after about 18 months, every time. I use it a lot though, and at the price I really can't complain when I replace it.
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I disagree, but to each their own.
Feel free to run your own tests -- slap it on a tripod and take three photos with three lenses of varying quality or pricepoint. The histogram should show no change.

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Unfortunately the autofocus motor on mine shits the bed after about 18 months, every time. I use it a lot though, and at the price I really can't complain when I replace it.
I've been lucky with my lens copies so far, but I've been tempted to pick up the 50 f/1.4L at some point... I just can't justify the cost of the f/1.2 version, though, at least, not until after I order my 5D Mk3, heh.
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lenses still absorb light. be it plastic or glass.. they refract light and absorb it. aperture is another matter altogether and beyond the scope of this conversation.. your knowledge is much appreciated for others to read...


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I know a few people here said they ordered the lenses.

Has anyone received them yet? If so, has anyone an opinion of these lenses?
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Old May 26th, 2010, 02:18 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I would like to see a picture of the back of the lens (where it would be in contact with the evo)

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i cant believe this is offered , haha
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Can a current EVO owner confirm or deny the existence of a macro setting inside the camera options? The fish eye lense would be fun, but I swore I heard something about a macro option in the camera menu.
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i would like to see a picture of the magnetic ring that you need to attach on the camera. i wonder if this prevents the glass from being touched on any kind of surface?
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Could a Mod please move this to the accessories thread?

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Can a current EVO owner confirm or deny the existence of a macro setting inside the camera options? The fish eye lense would be fun, but I swore I heard something about a macro option in the camera menu.
There is no macro option but the camera can take very good close-ups in certain situations. Here is an example: IMAG0024 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Sometimes you can hear the lens (or whatever) making a zooming sound when it's trying and failing to focus in dim light or when the subject doesn't have enough detail. But as you can see in the image, it is possible to take nice macros.
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