Go Back   Android Forums > Android Phones > HTC EVO 4G > EVO 4G - All Things Root
EVO 4G - All Things Root Rooting, ROMS, Overclocking, etc.

Get excited for the Samsung Galaxy S5! Find everything you need and discuss it in our Galaxy S5 Forum!

test: Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old December 22nd, 2010, 12:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
New Member
Thread Author (OP)
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Angry Why does OTA update 3.70 keep failing?

I have an HTC EVO 4G That i rooted using the unrevoked method. When I try to update the htc software to the 3.70 FOTA update, it downloads and begins to install but after the reboot and beginning of the install it gives me an exclamation point inside a triangle next to the android guy and does nothing else even after waiting hours. Thinking this was root related i restored my phone to defaults (wiped it out) in recovery mode and tried the update again with the same results. Is this a root related issue and how can i make the update work?

Banging head on wall! is offline  
Reply With Quote
sponsored links
Old December 22nd, 2010, 12:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Near Los Angeles
Posts: 4,418
 
Device(s): Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 101
Thanked 1,386 Times in 1,050 Posts
Default

1) Never accept an OTA update while rooted
1) Never accept an OTA update while rooted
1) Never accept an OTA update while rooted
2) It's a good thing it's not working. If it did, you'd lose root and have a hell of a time getting things to work correctly again.
3) Wiping data in recovery does not unroot your device. All it does is take whatever rom you are running (or stock) back to stock with all data wiped out. It does not remove root.
4) You *can* install the OTA update if you follow the correct procedure to unroot first, but this is a bad idea if you want to keep root. Rerooting with the new 2.10 hboot is not easy.

If you want everything you need out of the new OTA, flash a rooted version of it as you would any other rom. Here are a couple you can flash:

[ROM] RUU SuperSonic EvO 3.70.651.1 OTA - Stock - Sense - Deodexed & Odexed Version - xda-developers
♠♠♠[SteelROM RevI.2]♠♠♠ UPDATED 12/19 v3.70.651.1 │Rooted│ DeOdexed - xda-developers

You also need to update your radios, etc. found here:

[ Radios ][ 12-17 ] All EVO Radio, WiMAX, PRI, NV & HBoot versions - xda-developers

If you aren't sure how to do this, follow the instructions found here:

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies-extras.html

Always make a nandroid backup before doing any of the above. Keep in mind that this will not update your hboot as the OTA would have. There is never a good reason to update hboot, and will be more of a pain to deal with than anything else.
akazabam is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2010, 01:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
wrapkgb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: LOS ANGELES, CA
Posts: 924
 
Device(s): HTC EVO
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 53
Thanked 242 Times in 198 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by akazabam View Post
1) Never accept an OTA update while rooted
1) Never accept an OTA update while rooted
1) Never accept an OTA update while rooted
1a, 1b and 1c are my personal favorites...
__________________
Rooted | CyanogenMod 7 RC0
If I've helped don't be shy... Press the thanks button
wrapkgb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2010, 02:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 46
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 4
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Default

Ok.. I have to chime in here.

I keep hearing the whole "never accept OTA" talk over and over again. I completely accept the fact that it will make you lose root. Is that the ONLY reason you shouldn't accept the OTA?

I have have been using unrevoked since version 1 and have accepted EVERY single OTA since Launch. Yes I lost root, but I have NEVER had to do a full install or my apps (from backups or otherwise) or resynced by contacts or anything like that. I just had to deal with waiting for unrevoked to catch up.

And yes, I will only use unrevoked. I have flashed roms in the past, but hate having to deal with the "Flash your radios, flash a kernal...etc" bs. It simply isn't worth it to me. I appreciate others are willing to put up with what I consider to be a hassle.

I root for two reason... Remove bloatware and Wifi Tether. Unrevoked gives me all that and I don't have to Wipe my phone. In fact, I have NEVER had to wipe my phone since I first got it (with the exception of flashing custom roms, but did a nandroid backup of my unrevoked os). And would hate to have to do it by having to flash a rom just to get root.

So I accept the OTA knowing I will loose root, but the unrevoked team is so damn good that I rarely have to wait more than a month. Totally worth it to me.

To the original poster, If you are willing to loose root for a bit, I would be more than happy to walk you through the steps to upgrade to the latest OTA and you won't have to wipe your phone.

:-)
adrianq is offline  
Last edited by adrianq; December 22nd, 2010 at 02:49 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to adrianq For This Useful Post:
hankbear (December 22nd, 2010)
Old December 22nd, 2010, 08:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
bzxzlg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: The ATL
Posts: 23
 
Device(s): EVO, Razr MAXX
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

I'm rooted on the OTA ... To get it done, I had to:
1) put the original recover on
2) OTA (actually a couple of times since I also back-rev'd the OS)
3) flash a custom recovery
4) flash root
bzxzlg is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to bzxzlg For This Useful Post:
hankbear (December 22nd, 2010)
Old December 22nd, 2010, 08:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 29
 
Device(s): HTC EVO 4G
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 42
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by adrianq View Post
Ok.. I have to chime in here.

I keep hearing the whole "never accept OTA" talk over and over again. I completely accept the fact that it will make you lose root. Is that the ONLY reason you shouldn't accept the OTA?

I have have been using unrevoked since version 1 and have accepted EVERY single OTA since Launch. Yes I lost root, but I have NEVER had to do a full install or my apps (from backups or otherwise) or resynced by contacts or anything like that. I just had to deal with waiting for unrevoked to catch up.

And yes, I will only use unrevoked. I have flashed roms in the past, but hate having to deal with the "Flash your radios, flash a kernal...etc" bs. It simply isn't worth it to me. I appreciate others are willing to put up with what I consider to be a hassle.

I root for two reason... Remove bloatware and Wifi Tether. Unrevoked gives me all that and I don't have to Wipe my phone. In fact, I have NEVER had to wipe my phone since I first got it (with the exception of flashing custom roms, but did a nandroid backup of my unrevoked os). And would hate to have to do it by having to flash a rom just to get root.

So I accept the OTA knowing I will loose root, but the unrevoked team is so damn good that I rarely have to wait more than a month. Totally worth it to me.

To the original poster, If you are willing to loose root for a bit, I would be more than happy to walk you through the steps to upgrade to the latest OTA and you won't have to wipe your phone.

:-)
I agree with all the above, although I've had to wipe my phone once to get root, given the instructions I had to root 2.2 after getting there using the leaked version.

The trick is to make sure you have a stock recovery and all the Sprint apps are installed (that last got me for a bit). If you have s-off (which you should if you've done unrevoked forever), then, once the OTA is loaded, you can flash a custom recovery and then flash the superuser app, like the next post by bzxzlg says.

I have lots of history, saved web site passwords, etc. that I don't want to lose. So, being able to do the OTA update without a wipe of my data was the best choice for me. I think the phone is running better with it, too.
hankbear is offline  
Last edited by hankbear; December 22nd, 2010 at 08:38 AM. Reason: cleanup
Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2010, 11:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
wake69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,808
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Verizon

Thanks: 98
Thanked 516 Times in 399 Posts
Default

if you use the stock rooted roms and install from recovery you ONLY have to wipe cache and dalvik cache, YOU WILL KEEP ROOT AND ALL DATA, the wait time for the release of unrevoked is getting longer and longer and there is ALWAYS a chance all paths to root will be locked, so its your choice but not difficult to update without otas
__________________
Phone: HTC One M8
Root Method: Not Yet
wake69 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2010, 11:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Near Los Angeles
Posts: 4,418
 
Device(s): Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 101
Thanked 1,386 Times in 1,050 Posts
Default

You guys are right in that it is possible. That doesn't change the fact that it's a very bad idea. You put your phone in a weird state by upgrading to an hboot that was most likely created to avoid root. In the case of 2.10 (and I think 2.02), you can't even use the same recovery images. Not only that, but once you get to hboot 2.02 or 2.10, you can never downgrade your hboot, which didn't used to be the case. There is never a good reason to accept an OTA if you want root. Period. Flashing a custom rooted rom, then the radios is much easier. I can't tell you what to do, so do whatever you like, but if any of you ever end up with a brick or a half-rooted phone, don't blame me. Trust me, a majority of people who have been rooting their phones for a lot longer than me will agree.
akazabam is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old December 23rd, 2010, 10:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

What's the trick to restoring a functional phone (rooted or otherwise) after the 3.70 OTA on an unrevoked-rooted EVO?

It seems more than a few people with rooted EVOs have taken the OTA (by mistake or otherwise) and are now stuck.
phase is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old December 23rd, 2010, 10:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 131
 
Device(s): HTC Evo 4G
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 10
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Ok my 2 cents on OTA and how I've dealt with it in the past:

1) Check xda if a hack exists for the OTA
1a) Yes: Run OTA, re-root if needed
1b) No: Hold off rooting

Simple.

The only issue now is getting it to install...
__________________
Hardware: HTC Evo 4G HW 0003
GrandMasterBirt is offline  
Reply With Quote
sponsored links
Reply
Tags
3.7, error, evo, exclamation point, fota, ota, root, unrevoked


Go Back   Android Forums > Android Phones > HTC EVO 4G > EVO 4G - All Things Root
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:32 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.