Xtremedays

I am not sure that you would have to "root" it as you have security turned off already. You should be able to flash a custom recovery and then the rom of your choice. I may be wrong here but getting s-off is the primary job of rooting and you have that already.

libai8268

I looked through the forum and found out most of the people are talking about how rooted phone can get gingerbread update. Since my phone is unrooted stock rom with gingerbread, I was wondering if the "rooting for dummies" still works on my phone? Because according to the update time for the post and the rom it saids to support, it doesn't seem to be able to root my phone?
Thanks in advance

Xtremedays

If you accepted the OTA update then you likely have the new hboot which currently is not rootable. Power off your phone then hold volume down + power til the white bootloader screen appears. Top left will have a bunch of info. Look to see if it says hboot 2.16. If so, you will have to wait.

Triprock

Just wondering, where do I look to see s-off or s-on?

Karmadrome

Alrighty, I have a newbie question: I've got an Evo 4G running 2.2 and rooted using Unrevoked and I've got the latest CWM. Is there any way for me to upgrade to 2.3 without wiping out everything on my phone? I remember doing this for the 2.1 to 2.2 upgrade, but I haven't seen anything about it for the new one. Is anyone aware of a way to do this? Thanks in advance for any advice you might have.

ocnbrze

if you are currently on a rooted stock rom then i believe that you can just wipe dalvik cache and cache and flash the the latest ota. you can get the update in the rom/kernel sticky.you will not loose your data by doing that. just make sure to make a nandroid backup before doing it.

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Karmadrome

Worked like a champ-thank you so much.

ocnbrze

nice glad that worked for you.

Xtremedays

Power your phone off, wait 10 seconds, then hold volume down+power til the white bootloader screen comes up. In the top left corner will be some info including s-on or s-off. S-off(nand unlocked) means the phone is rooted. S-on(nand locked) means the phone is not rooted.

feposi4824

So my Evo 4G has never been rooted, and now that I updated I want to root it, I haven't found a way to root it yet, but has anyone have any success? And if the rooting method is not yet available, how long do you think it is going to take for it to become available?

RiverOfIce

I really dont mean to sound rude, but there is like 3 open threads on the first page alone. Plus a sticky at the very top of the this subforum that goes into blow by blow detail on why we can not root.

There is no way to currently root the htc evo 4g with gingerbread 2.3. There is no way. They might be able to hack it some time in the next month, but I would not hold my breath on that.

ocnbrze

welcome to the forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as of right now there is no new exploit for the current hboot (2.16). once there is one it will be posted here. just keep checking back here. you will know when we have root access.

by the way moving the thread.

scudder

I agree. I feel bad and want to help people who are confused or struggling or have questions and are new to this. Hell, I was new to root only a few months ago!! But the question "I have 2.3 and I am not rooted, can I root?" has been asked, IN THIS THREAD ALONE probably about a half dozen times!! They're in the right thread but NOTHING is read before the post!

I and MANY other people here are happy to help anyone but everyone...EVERYONE...young and old, new or not, MUST READ AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT in the thread before posting the same question over and over. I get email subscription updates on this thread and I check to see the SAME question asked and answered

Please, everyone and anyone, you've taken the time to post in the appropriate thread...now just READ A BIT before asking a question!

libai8268

In my humble opinion, one of the reasons why a lot of people are doing this is that the name of this thread doesn't really point out their problem. So we thought it's an irrelevant thread.

2.3 OTA Update w/ Rooted EVO vs Unrooted EVO with 2.3 wants to be rooted?!

Maybe it's just my bad English?! LOL

ocnbrze

thats a good point. i will go ahead and adjust the title.

Panchoevo

Does 2.3 stop all rooting ?

Have read some post that the new OS, 2.3 Gingerbread will forever stop rooting of the HTC Evo--will not be able to ever root again.

Is this true.

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Evo

No. It is impossible right now, but give the devs a little more time and it will work soon enough.

scudder

I can kinda see what you're saying, but even if the thread title was "Rep. Weiner Endorses Gingerbread 2.3 for Craigslist Picture Posts" people are STILL posting the same asked and answered question without reading anything.

We'll see if ocnbrze changing the title with your suggestion might help...I hope!

ocnbrze

that is not necessarily true. though htc was talking about encrypting their bootloaders, they changed their stance and will not be locking the bootloaders. so on that note the latest ota with a new hboot(bootloader) will most likely be not locked. it will take the devs sometime before they will find an exploit. so at the moment yes, you cannot root the latest ota. just keep checking back here on this forum. you will know when an exploit is found.

libai8268

I wish this will really help since people with experience on this forum are so willing to help noobs like me. I truly appreciate it! And I wanna thank ocnbrze for letting me know about the merge. Thanks again for your hard work

nuggetz

I'd like to stay rooted. Do I just download an image or do I unroot first, apply OTA and the get root again?

ocnbrze

if you unroot then accept the ota you will loose the ability to re-root. an exploit have not been found yet for the new hboot. you can just flash the rooted stock ota if you want the update. to be honest, it is not all that. there are some amzing roms coming out now that just blow this ota out of the water.

you can get the rooted ota on the rom/kernel sticky.

also please read this:Official Gingerbread (2.3) for rooted Evo 4G

nviviano

Is there a way to? I just swapped out my phone because my old one had a bad port. I updated to gingerbread like an idiot and now cant find a way to root. My old phone was rooted so everything is saved to a titanium backup file. I've done a lot of research and everyone says just wait for someone to it but its been almost two weeks so I'm starting to get nervous/impatient. Thanks for your help

ocnbrze

welcome to the forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moved and merged your thread.

Xtremedays

Unfortunately you will have to wait. They will find an exploit, but there is no telling how long it will be.

atomikmonkey

Lotta talk about what 'not' to do. Great info on how to do it the right way. ZERO info on what to do when you suffer from inability to delay gratification. :/

I have (had) a unrEVOked Sprint EVO, froyo 2.2. With out even thinking about it, I accepted the OTA update. When it failed, I thought, hmmm, I better check forums. After reading (yes, every post covering over 11 pages) though this thread, and not finding the answer to my question, I did some more digging and found a way to undo my boo boo:

Restore to Stock ROM (Unroot) for Sprint phones - xda-developers

Yea, I loose all my data, but I have backups of all of it. Regardless, this is VERY time consuming. Moral, think before you act. Next time I might actually check w/ you pro's before leaping into the unknown.

Cheers.

Xtremedays

So did you in fact unroot to fix it? If you still had s-off, it was likely recoverable without unrooting. What is your current hboot and are you still wanting to be rooted?

batness

THANK you guys for such informative, easy to follow posts. I finally got brave again and updated using the info in this thread. So far; working great. 4g in my area still not good, so can't tell how all that's going to work...but it appears fine.

Thanks again!

Jason D

I flashed to modded stock 4.24 ota (odexed) from 3.70 last night. Also flashed radio updates.

Aside from some icon changes, I'm seeing huge battery gains.
I wiped Cache and Divak and fixed permissions before and wiped diavak again after. the whole of last night hardly put a dent in my battery. It's been off the charger for 5hrs almost now, and I've been using FB etc, deleting with the file browser and browsing the SD card with wifi File Explorer (which did not work under 2.2) and the battery icon is still completely full. Seems to be slightly snappier and the radio updates seem to have made a big improvement in 3g and 4g as well as general signal reception here in Richmond, VA where I am visiting the folks.

All in all, super easy and worth the time.

For the record, though I have rooted my phone, I had never flashed anything. And I took yesterday to read all 10 pages of this thread before embarking on the task and making choices about stock or custom roms, and it made the difference, much as I am often tempted to just wing it. So thanks for all the experimentation and feedback. I may explore some custom roms from here, but generally all I care about is functionality, stability, battery and speed...in that order.

Cheers,
Jason

ocnbrze

welcome to the forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
glad you took the time to research before updating. i'm a bit surprised on your batter life. mine has been average at best. i would also recommend that you try some custom roms that are out there. these new sense roms are amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! especially the ones with sense 2.1 and 3.0. i would suggest you try mikg2.1 at least. it is not themed but has sense 2.1 and some sense 3.0 cooked in. try it out, just make sure to make a nandroid backup.

jediguitarist

Hi everyone. I’m a long time forum lurker and don’t post a whole lot since all my questions get answered by reading posts. I posted at XDA as well...

Two nights ago I was running CM7 nightly #110 and doing some routine maintenance and did a nandroid backup in Amon RA so I could flash Fresh 3.5.xxx. For whatever reason, it didn’t take so I restored the nandroid using Amon RA and flashed the latest Fresh 4.xxx. That didn’t seem to take so, I booted to AmonRa recovery and nandroid back to nightly #110.

I checked my bootloader and saw it was hboot .76 AND s-off so I updated to the latest hboot. When I checked it again, I noticed it said s-on. It had always said s-off until two days ago.

I still have superuser, can nandroid backup and restore with Amon RA, can flash other ROMS. Is my phone still rooted?

Rooted with simpleroot last July.
GB 2.3.4
Using Amon Ra 2.3
On CM7 nightly 112
All radios/wimax/etc. up to date

I don’t think I forgot anything…
Thanks in advance

ocnbrze

first off welcome to the forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sort of
you should not really mess around with hboot if you can help it. it could seriously create issues. that is weird that you have s-on now. what is your current hboot? you may have to run unrevoked to get you back to s-off.

jediguitarist

Thanks ocnbrz My current hboot is 2.10.0001

Unrevoked sounds like the easiest way to get s-off. I originally used simpleroot, but that shouldn't make a difference if I try to "re-root" using unrevoked.

Edited just in case this is important:
Supersonic EVT2-3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-2.10.0001
MICROP -041F
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-2.15.00.05.02
OCT. 15 2010.12:07:00

HBOOT
<VOL UP> to preview item
<VOL DOWN> to next item
<POWER> to select item

FASTBOOT
RECOVERY
CLEAR STORAGE
SIMLOCK
HBOOT USB

Last edited by jediguitarist; June 26th, 2011 at 01:12 PM. Reason: clarification

ocnbrze

yep that is what i would try to get s-off again. looks like you are good to go.

jediguitarist

Unrevoked forever worked perfect. At first there was an error but I flashed an older radio, then reflashed unrevoked and got s-off again. All is good...again

ocnbrze

nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

psysenz

Hi novox77
so is this true?
I am still on the 2.2 with the rootable bootloader, I never accepted the update. I had been waiting for the gingerbread update before i rooted, thinking that I would gain some things not built up in the roms yet.

but what you are saying is that I can root my 2.2 and then when there is a stable rom for 2.3 i can just get the gingerbread update that way. by flashing over to that.

or is there any reason to take the OTA, and then wait for the stable 2.3 rom to come out.? will i be gaining or losing anything either way?

thanks
psysenz

psysenz

In other words, I am wondering if I would be missing anything if I don't start from the 2.3 OTA.

Xtremedays

We have the rooted OTA available to flash so that you do not lose root or the ability to. Are you currently rooted? If so, you can go here: [ROM][STOCK] 4.24.651.1 - Odexed & De-Odexed - xda-developers and download the Odex version. It is the stock OTA but rooted. Flash that and you will have the latest software but retain root. We also have the new radios that are flashable if you want to update those as well.

edit: No you won't be missing anything if you do it manually other than an updated hboot that at this point breaks root. There are some custom roms based on the OTA but that have Sense 2.1 and 3.0 which were not included in the original 2.3 OTA.

Last edited by Xtremedays; July 2nd, 2011 at 09:04 AM.

psysenz

No I have never rooted before. only had my evo for 6 months. Have much to learn. so does this rom have all the radios, 4g working and everthing?
I don't even know difference between Odexed & DE-Odexed yet.

cool thanks for the quick answer. it will probably be a few weeks before i get it rooted. I just thought i had to wait for the official OTA before rooting for some reason. lol.

Xtremedays

The stock rooted rom that I linked you to is the exact same as the OTA except it is only the rom(no radios), does not include an hboot update(which would break your ability to root), and has superuser and busybox installed(required to run root apps). Odex is basically smaller and faster but not able to be themed easily. Deodex is a little larger and slightly slower but can be easily themed.

If you have hboot 2.10 or lower you are still good to go. They will root the new hboot(2.16) but it may be a while before they are able to so it is best to not update your hboot. I would read through the Rooting for Dummies guide stickied at the top of the forum. It is very informative and tells you step by step how to get your phone rooted. I would not however follow the part about using Rom Manager as it has been known to be buggy and cause issues. Instead, we can walk you through doing those steps manually. Most of us suggest doing it that way anyway so that you are comfortable when(and it will happen) something goes wrong and your phone won't completely boot up.

psysenz

cool thanks,

I am still at hboot 2.10. I will start reading up some more. not shure which rom I want to start with. CM7 with new kernal, or stock, or what, Kings whatever its called. hehe.

last question. its seems there is something iv'e been reading about here called nandroid. it seems i can use that to load more than one rom and switch back and forth. is that what nandroid does? that sounds cool.

Xtremedays

A nandroid is similar to a restore point in Windows. It takes a snapshot of your phone exactly like it is at that point and you can use it to restore your phone in case something goes wrong or you do not like the changes you made. Nandroids are you friend. Once you get rooted, make it a habit to make a nandroid backup before you make any changes. You can delete or move the backups to your pc for safe keeping. You will just want to keep a couple on your sdcard just in case. We can get more into that when you get rooted.

psysenz

awesome!

thanks

Xtremedays

You're welcome. Let us know when you are ready and if you have any questions. We are here to help.

batness

This is more useful than some of the threads specifically dedicated to this. :P I had bookmarked the "rooting for dummies" thread, and couldn't find how to upload the new OTA; it just mentions what odex vs deOdex is (wish the bottom part of it said "flashing ota/radios" not just radios). THANK YOU!