I could be wrong, but I don't think I've ever seen an OTA of an OS version upgrade that did not wipe the phone, or a rooted substitute that didn't need one. Am I mistaken?
I believe that the OTA updates are set up to work around your current data and settings IF you are on the stock rom. If you are not, then I would think a full wipe will be necessary to avoid any possible issues.
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Deciding to unroot, and update..then unrevoke3 it back..won't work when you unroot get pushed back to when evo first came out and then have to do two updates to get back to where you were before you rooted with unrev3..then crossroads time..left you take update and wait..for who knows how long for exploit..take a right and root unrev.then your stuck in the same place as before..loose your apps, data, and patience.. lot of work for nothing...unless you have some kind of hacker divine intervention from God...
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I could be wrong, but I don't think I've ever seen an OTA of an OS version upgrade that did not wipe the phone, or a rooted substitute that didn't need one. Am I mistaken?
Didn't mean to contradict you, and you may be absolutely right and my memory may be failing me, but allow me to clarify:
In most instances, a factory data reset IS required. Or, the new ROM is designed to wipe your data to ensure a successful install, so you have no say in the matter. However, official OTA updates were designed to protect your data. After all, imagine the amount of complaints Sprint and/or HTC would get if someone accepts an OTA update and all their data is wiped out!!! Is there a warning associated with the OTA preparing the user for this wipe?
That said, the FroYo OTA caused a lot of problems, which ultimately got fixed with the user doing a factory data reset and rebuilding their data from scratch. I blame a poorly designed OTA for that. I thought I was able to update to FroYo and have my data preserved, but I could be remembering incorrectly. But I had huge battery drain, so ultimately, I wiped and rebuilt my data.
For sure, I was able to flash the rooted version of 2.2 build 3.29.x and 3.70.x without needing to do a wipe. and my data was perfectly intact. But to your point, this is a major version upgrade 2.2 --> 2.3. So same rules may not apply.
So... be prepared that you might need to ultimately wipe the phone and rebuild. But I would definitely try to flash the rooted ROM without wiping first to see if it works. As long as you did a NANDroid backup, you can flash without fear
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I believe that the OTA updates are set up to work around your current data and settings IF you are on the stock rom. If you are not, then I would think a full wipe will be necessary to avoid any possible issues.
This rings a bell. Going from rooted stock to updated rooted stock may preserve the data, since the new ROM expects a stock configuration. If you're running a custom ROM, you will have to wipe.
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This rings a bell. Going from rooted stock to updated rooted stock may preserve the data, since the new ROM expects a stock configuration. If you're running a custom ROM, you will have to wipe.
lol..didn't I already say that.
for those that asked...straight AOSP roms are not the only GB roms out there. As a matter of fact GingerAleV2 is one of the most complete gb and sense 2.1 with a tad of 3.0 roms out right now and what I use daily with no issues.
I would however hold off..as antsy as everyone is WAIT until these guys tweak what they have with the new kernel. I will most likely try the new radios when I leave and see what it does for signal/4g improvement....but other than that..calm down and wait haha
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Didn't mean to contradict you, and you may be absolutely right and my memory may be failing me, but allow me to clarify:
In most instances, a factory data reset IS required. Or, the new ROM is designed to wipe your data to ensure a successful install, so you have no say in the matter. However, official OTA updates were designed to protect your data. After all, imagine the amount of complaints Sprint and/or HTC would get if someone accepts an OTA update and all their data is wiped out!!! Is there a warning associated with the OTA preparing the user for this wipe?
That said, the FroYo OTA caused a lot of problems, which ultimately got fixed with the user doing a factory data reset and rebuilding their data from scratch. I blame a poorly designed OTA for that. I thought I was able to update to FroYo and have my data preserved, but I could be remembering incorrectly. But I had huge battery drain, so ultimately, I wiped and rebuilt my data.
For sure, I was able to flash the rooted version of 2.2 build 3.29.x and 3.70.x without needing to do a wipe. and my data was perfectly intact. But to your point, this is a major version upgrade 2.2 --> 2.3. So same rules may not apply.
So... be prepared that you might need to ultimately wipe the phone and rebuild. But I would definitely try to flash the rooted ROM without wiping first to see if it works. As long as you did a NANDroid backup, you can flash without fear
I'm speaking if you have urevoked3 and have not flashed anything..
if u root and then unroot..you go back to HTC sense Rom...2.2).you can recover frozen or deleted system..apps like blockbuster and etc..and v card contacts..market only saves purchased apps... backed up apps from astro..file expert etc..will only install third party or available ones on market..and tb..will not work in uprooted phone..so I was stating..at that point u need to recover what you can..either update OTA to 2.3..or root again on unrevoked3..And wait like we have been doing..if you accept new OTA 2.3 while rooted you are not bricked its a hassle to get back to before..if you unroot, and update..u need for another exploit..and who knows how soon there will be one click root with these...
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Updating the sticky thread. Thanks delta - TKO (not del taco)!
No problem, now if they would just bring out the 3D i can get back to working. I can't believe I still have a job because all I do all day is look at various forums trying to find anything new lol.
I'm speaking if you have urevoked3 and have not flashed anything..
if u root and then unroot..you go back to HTC sense Rom...2.2).you can recover frozen or deleted system..apps like blockbuster and etc..and v card contacts..market only saves purchased apps... backed up apps from astro..file expert etc..will only install third party or available ones on market..and tb..will not work in uprooted phone..so I was stating..at that point u need to recover what you can..either update OTA to 2.3..or root again on unrevoked3..And wait like we have been doing..if you accept new OTA 2.3 while rooted you are not bricked its a hassle to get back to before..if you unroot, and update..u need for another exploit..and who knows how soon there will be one click root with these...
this is now irrelevant..the stock rooted rom was posted just minutes ago.
in this case you mention (stock rom, rooted)
NANDROID BACKUP, wipe dalvik, wip cache, flash the rom posted above in that link
There is now NO reason to unroot, update and root other than for someone to test to see if root can be gained afterwards
Last edited by Mr. Ed; June 3rd, 2011 at 01:01 PM.
Do a NANDroid backup of your current ROM before flashing the new rooted OTA ROM!!!
For quick reference in case you don't know how, or forgot how:
1) Power off phone. wait for it to completely shut off and then wait 15 more seconds.
2) hold down power + vol-down buttons together until the white HBOOT screen appears
3) choose "Recovery"
Phone now boots into recovery. Some people will have clockworkmod recovery. Others will have RA recovery. Use the menus to find backup options.
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Updating the sticky thread. Thanks delta - TKO (not del taco)!
Can someone walk a novice through the steps here? Like, exactly what files to download, where to put them, and what to do with them? Many many many thanks in advance (my nandroid backup is going as we speak).
Can someone walk a novice through the steps here? Like, exactly what files to download, where to put them, and what to do with them? Many many many thanks in advance (my nandroid backup is going as we speak).
Was just thinking the same thing lol
If there is some place that already has the step by step of flashing a ROM, could some one post the link?
Can someone walk a novice through the steps here? Like, exactly what files to download, where to put them, and what to do with them? Many many many thanks in advance (my nandroid backup is going as we speak).
Choose whether you want the odexed or deodexed version. If you don't know, choose odexed.
Download the file and stick it on your SD card wherever you like. I like to put it right at the root (top) level.
Boot into recovery. Do your NANDroid backup. when it's done, find the option to flash .zip file. Navigate to where you saved the file and select it. Press OK to confirm the flash. That's it.
The recovery image will be your one-stop shop for NANDroiding, flashing ROMs, as well as wiping your data/cache/dalvik cache. It's all in the menus.
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Can someone walk a novice through the steps here? Like, exactly what files to download, where to put them, and what to do with them? Many many many thanks in advance (my nandroid backup is going as we speak).
Go to this thread: [ROM][STOCK] --- Version 4.22.651.2 --- odexed & deodexed --- - xda-developers
Download whichever one you prefer (Odex is more like out of box Sprint)
Copy to the root of your SD card
[Suggest] Back up apps
Boot into recovery
Make a nandroid, return
(*Note: The following steps are from Amon_RA, CWM is similar)
Select Wipe
[Suggest] Wipe all/Factory reset
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik
Return
Select Flash zip from sdcard
Select Choose zip from sdcard
Select the ROM you copied
It will now give you a chance to back out. If you have the correct file selected, hit power.
Select Reboot system now
First reboot may take longer than usual.
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after i flash and im good and restore my stuff...do i update profile aND PRL?
You shouldn't have to, but it wouldn't hurt anything. Your phone is still provisioned. If you've done a PRL recently, you're probably good. If not, go ahead.
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after i flash and im good and restore my stuff...do i update profile aND PRL?
If you decide on updating, update PRL first then Profile to optimize 3G speeds.
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Should I also down load radio and all that or is the flash Rom okay?
I'd stick with the directions listed. I came from a stock rooted 2.2, and only used the odexed zip linked to earlier in the instructions. I did that and it's still rebooting, but things seem to look okay so far.
i did everything finnish reboot but all looks the same how do i know if it has the GB the android version is 2.3.3 am i good to go
You should be good to go. There were no major changes that I have seen from froyo 2.2. The new radio and prl might make some changes but other than that it is not much different.
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what is the difference between odexed & deodexed?
Does anyone know if someone is working on releasing 2.3 with Sense 3.0 for EVO?
Odex is the way files are stored in a Sprint ROM. They boot faster, but they cannot be modified. Deodexing allows devs to modify the apps.
There are some over at xda. Check the Evo 4g development forum. Sorry, I'm on the go using my phone right now, don't have easy access to a postable link.
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i just flashed the new rom.. posted here.. and it went around everything.. did a wipe davlik and cache.. took a while to boot up.. but all my settings and stuff are still the same.. sweet..
So, if its this easy to flash a rom, can someone explain what a Kernal does.. i see some people have asop and some weird kernal.. what does that do.. do you flash it like you would a rom?
Anyone out there have a fully fuctional 2.3 rom, without all the sprint bloatware?
i just flashed the new rom.. posted here.. and it went around everything.. did a wipe davlik and cache.. took a while to boot up.. but all my settings and stuff are still the same.. sweet..
So, if its this easy to flash a rom, can someone explain what a Kernal does.. i see some people have asop and some weird kernal.. what does that do.. do you flash it like you would a rom?
Anyone out there have a fully fuctional 2.3 rom, without all the sprint bloatware?
Glad your settings are intact! Awesome!
Let's keep this thread on the topic of GB. I believe your question deserves it's own thread.
Mods, what do you think?
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i just flashed the new rom.. posted here.. and it went around everything.. did a wipe davlik and cache.. took a while to boot up.. but all my settings and stuff are still the same.. sweet..
So, if its this easy to flash a rom, can someone explain what a Kernal does.. i see some people have asop and some weird kernal.. what does that do.. do you flash it like you would a rom?
Anyone out there have a fully fuctional 2.3 rom, without all the sprint bloatware?
Just get titanium backup and freeze it..don't delete..stops that shit from running and disappears on app drawer..
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i just flashed the new rom.. posted here.. and it went around everything.. did a wipe davlik and cache.. took a while to boot up.. but all my settings and stuff are still the same.. sweet..
So, if its this easy to flash a rom, can someone explain what a Kernal does.. i see some people have asop and some weird kernal.. what does that do.. do you flash it like you would a rom?
Anyone out there have a fully fuctional 2.3 rom, without all the sprint bloatware?
Titanium backup..freeze, back up those shitty apps, and forget about em..
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So I flashed the new odexed rom (and did a cache and dalvik wipe before and after the flash) and it's booted up (new 3G icon was the first thing I noticed).
However, the phone seems a bit sluggish, and when I look at the stats in SystemPanel, something looks to be constantly maxing out the processor at 100%. Any thoughts?
So I flashed the new odexed rom (and did a cache and dalvik wipe before and after the flash) and it's booted up (new 3G icon was the first thing I noticed).
However, the phone seems a bit sluggish, and when I look at the stats in SystemPanel, something looks to be constantly maxing out the processor at 100%. Any thoughts?
System Panel reports live updates of CPU usage by app/component... so it should say what's pegging the CPU... GO into SystemPanel, tap the pie graphs up top. Click the History tab at the bottom. Switch it from Plot to Top Apps. IT should list things in order of most CPU usage for the date range specified. If you just flashed, you might want to wait another hour or so, so it has more history to go by.
So..For those who are Rooted and installed the official gingerbread update today, did any issues arise? did it break the root( which most likely it will)
For those who are Rooted and have not downloaded the update, will you be downloading it?
Last but not least, what should us Rooted users do? await an offical rooted version of gingerbread or dive into the OTA update and reroot later down the line?
I just rooted my Sprint Evo 4g with Unrevoked for the first time about a week ago. Like a dummy, I tried to install the OTA updated this morning without coming here first. As it was trying to install I got the triangle with exclamation point warning. I pulled to battery to re-boot and everything seems to be fine. Obviously the update didn't install, but I don't appear to have lost root status since wi fi tether is still working like a charm.
System Panel reports live updates of CPU usage by app/component... so it should say what's pegging the CPU... GO into SystemPanel, tap the pie graphs up top. Click the History tab at the bottom. Switch it from Plot to Top Apps. IT should list things in order of most CPU usage for the date range specified. If you just flashed, you might want to wait another hour or so, so it has more history to go by.
Yeah nothing I see on the active apps is maxing out the processor; I'll try checking the history after a little bit like you mentioned.
I just rooted my Sprint Evo 4g with Unrevoked for the first time about a week ago. Like a dummy, I tried to install the OTA updated this morning without coming here first. As it was trying to install I got the triangle with exclamation point warning. I pulled to battery to re-boot and everything seems to be fine. Obviously the update didn't install, but I don't appear to have lost root status since wi fi tether is still working like a charm.
As a precaution, I would check to make sure I still had s-off and hboot 2.10 or lower along with being able to get to recovery. If those are good, then you should be fine.
I just rooted my Sprint Evo 4g with Unrevoked for the first time about a week ago. Like a dummy, I tried to install the OTA updated this morning without coming here first. As it was trying to install I got the triangle with exclamation point warning. I pulled to battery to re-boot and everything seems to be fine. Obviously the update didn't install, but I don't appear to have lost root status since wi fi tether is still working like a charm.
Would be interesting to know if HTC has modified their OTAs to abort if the existing firmware isn't stock. The problems this used to cause was their justification for starting to encrypt their bootloaders. Maybe this new way is the best of both worlds.... Just a hypothesis.
Would be interesting to know if HTC has modified their OTAs to abort if the existing firmware isn't stock. The problems this used to cause was their justification for starting to encrypt their bootloaders. Maybe this new way is the best of both worlds.... Just a hypothesis.
I think we had one in this thread: How do you unroot from the unrevoked method? that it updated his hboot but failed to flash the rom without the stock recovery. At least that is what it seems like from the info he gave us.
As a precaution, I would check to make sure I still had s-off and hboot 2.10 or lower along with being able to get to recovery. If those are good, then you should be fine.
Thanks for the reply. How would I go about checking those 2 things?
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