Ok so gingerbread starts rolling out for the evo on the 3rd(friday) if i try to update will it let me even though im rooted what will happen i honestly dont want to hear oh u can just get a rooted version i just want to kno what it will do
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the problem with doing an ota is that they usually will change the hboot and close the previous exploit to root. so if you were able to accept the ota you most likely will loose root. it may take awhile for the devs to come up with a new exploit to root. so during that time you will not have a rooted phone.
also what could happen is that since you have a custom recovery, you may not be able to accept an ota anyways. and the only way to accept it is to unroot and then accept the ota. but, then you will be unrooted with no ability to root again.
so it is up to you if you want to do that or not.
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don't do it! all they need to get the rooted version rnning smoothly is the new kernel so I would imagine by the end of the weekend there should be one.
there isn't really anything all that exciting being added..wait 3 or 4 days
I'm excited..I didn't see that they were doing this over the weekend.
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don't do it! all they need to get the rooted version rnning smoothly is the new kernel so I would imagine by the end of the weekend there should be one.
there isn't really anything all that exciting being added..wait 3 or 4 days
I'm excited..I didn't see that they were doing this over the weekend.
Learn something new everyday . So the new HTC kernel is the answer to get everything running as it should?
I just saw on engadget that the EVO is finally getting Gingerbread. I recently rooted my EVO and am a little new to this, so please bear with me. I'm currently using Fresh 3.5.0.1 as it's stable and everything works as it should (had too many problems with CM7). Is it best to wait for a rooted version of the OTA update to come out? What happens if I try to apply the OTA update? Do the Blockbuster and Nascar police break down my door and hold me down while they reinstall their crappy apps on my phone? Or does the OTA update not work properly on a rooted phone?
I just saw on engadget that the EVO is finally getting Gingerbread. I recently rooted my EVO and am a little new to this, so please bear with me. I'm currently using Fresh 3.5.0.1 as it's stable and everything works as it should (had too many problems with CM7). Is it best to wait for a rooted version of the OTA update to come out? What happens if I try to apply the OTA update? Do the Blockbuster and Nascar police break down my door and hold me down while they reinstall their crappy apps on my phone? Or does the OTA update not work properly on a rooted phone?
Thanks in advance.
Yes it's best to wait for the rooted version of the OTA update, in fact, we'll more than likely have the rooted version of the official update sooner than the release. As it stands, we have gingerbread ROM's already. If you accept the OTA, the least that will happen is you lose root. They can update the hboot version and you'll have to wait for another root exploit, and who knows how long that'll take.
Wait a few days, it'll be worth it.
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Do not accept an ota while rooted it will either unroot your phone and prohibit rooting again until we get a new exploit or it just plain won't work due to your custom recovery. We will have a rooted stock gb Rom to flash around the same time.
I suppose if you don't care you can unroot and accept it and wait for a new exploit but I'm not sure why you would...
I think I recall when Akazabam was around, that if you would try to accept an OTA with a custom recovery it could bjork your piece. Not sure if this is true.
I think I recall when Akazabam was around, that if you would try to accept an OTA with a custom recovery it could bjork your piece. Not sure if this is true.
It "can" happen...but no one really knows till it comes out and someone actually does it.
typically we have been able to help those that borked their phones but there is always the chance that the end result be a brick
And once the official GB from HTC/Sprint is released, the brightness issue with the Sense GB roms will be no longer with the release of the kernel source
So when the rooted Stock 2.3 ROM does come out, could someone please that information in this thread?
I'm sure there will be info somewhere, I believe the question will be is if the new GB rom released by HTC/Sprint will be Sense 2.1. But I still believe what the developer's are looking for is the kernel source from HTC, then things will move along
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the new kernel will fix the nova screens and hopefully the camcorder issues with all the sense 2.0/3.0 ports out right now, but unless the OTA includes some type of update to sense, specifically something that requires new drivers that work with our phones, then there will still be issues with things like Maps force closing I think
Ok, saw a lot of confusion and assumptions here and in the Evo main forums about how to get this update and how it affects both rooted and non-rooted users. Let me explain briefly:
If you're rooted, do NOT attempt to get this update via OTA or manually. Like EarlyMon said, at best, you will lose your root status. At worst, you probably know what's the worst case scenario.
What you need to do is wait for the announcement of the rooted version of this OTA. It's typically out within a day of the official OTA but sometimes it even beats out the OTA if the OTA was leaked in advance. Keep checking this "All Things Root" subforum for updates on this rooted stock ROM.
As for bootloader issues: irrelevant to everyone. Anyone rooted already has an unlocked bootloader. If you flash the rooted version of the OTA, your bootloader will remain unlocked. If you are NOT rooted, your bootloader is currently locked (but not unlockable). By going through the process of rooting your phone, you will unlock the bootloader.
Finally, if you are thinking of rooting your phone in the near future, do not accept this OTA. There is no known root exploit for this ROM since it is new (AFAIK. I could be wrong), so you can't root from 2.3 yet. Root your phone while it's on 2.2 (or 2.1) because the exploits for these versions are tried and true. Then simply flash the rooted version of the 2.3 update.
NOTE: I deleted some posts in this thread in anticipation that a lot of people are going to be seeking info here. Nothing personal; just trying to stay organized. Let's keep things on topic and keep the speculation (new Sense, e.g.) to a minimum, please.
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Ok, saw a lot of confusion and assumptions here and in the Evo main forums about how to get this update and how it affects both rooted and non-rooted users. Let me explain briefly:
If you're rooted, do NOT attempt to get this update via OTA or manually. Like EarlyMon said, at best, you will lose your root status. At worst, you probably know what's the worst case scenario.
What you need to do is wait for the announcement of the rooted version of this OTA. It's typically out within a day of the official OTA but sometimes it even beats out the OTA if the OTA was leaked in advance. Keep checking this "All Things Root" subforum for updates on this rooted stock ROM.
As for bootloader issues: irrelevant to everyone. Anyone rooted already has an unlocked bootloader. If you flash the rooted version of the OTA, your bootloader will remain unlocked. If you are NOT rooted, your bootloader is currently locked (but not unlockable). By going through the process of rooting your phone, you will unlock the bootloader.
Finally, if you are thinking of rooting your phone in the near future, do not accept this OTA. There is no known root exploit for this ROM since it is new (AFAIK. I could be wrong), so you can't root from 2.3 yet. Root your phone while it's on 2.2 (or 2.1) because the exploits for these versions are tried and true. Then simply flash the rooted version of the 2.3 update.
NOTE: I deleted some posts in this thread in anticipation that a lot of people are going to be seeking info here. Nothing personal; just trying to stay organized. Let's keep things on topic and keep the speculation (new Sense, e.g.) to a minimum, please.
Thank you for clearing things up. I'm new to Android and rooting of Android, so this was a big help to my understanding.
Ok, saw a lot of confusion and assumptions here and in the Evo main forums about how to get this update and how it affects both rooted and non-rooted users. Let me explain briefly:
If you're rooted, do NOT attempt to get this update via OTA or manually. Like EarlyMon said, at best, you will lose your root status. At worst, you probably know what's the worst case scenario.
What you need to do is wait for the announcement of the rooted version of this OTA. It's typically out within a day of the official OTA but sometimes it even beats out the OTA. Keep checking this "All Things Root" subforum for updates on this rooted stock ROM.
As for bootloader issues: irrelevant to everyone. Anyone rooted already has an unlocked bootloader. If you flash the rooted version of the OTA, your bootloader will remain unlocked. If you are NOT rooted, your bootloader is currently locked (but not unlockable). By going through the process of rooting your phone, you will unlock the bootloader.
Finally, if you are thinking of rooting your phone in the near future, do not accept this OTA. There is no known root exploit for this ROM since it is new (AFAIK. I could be wrong), so you can't root from 2.3 yet. Root your phone while it's on 2.2 (or 2.1) because the exploits for these versions are tried and true. Then simply flash the rooted version of the 2.3 update.
NOTE: I deleted some posts in this thread in anticipation that a lot of people are going to be seeking info here. Nothing personal; just trying to stay organized. Let's keep things on topic and keep the speculation (new Sense, e.g.) to a minimum, please.
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Before I say this, I apologize in advance to whomever I'm about to offend, it is not intentional: That said, this happens every time an OTA is around the corner. No matter how many warnings go out, however emphatic and polite, someone gets impatient, takes the OTA, then comes here pleading for help. Just before Froyo dropped, a rooted version of the official ROM (not a test) was actually out *before* Sprint released it, and some folks *still* took the OTA. It took weeks to get find a new exploit and bail them out. So please, please be patient. The devs rock, we'll have it within a day or two, if not hours, and sometimes, even sooner.
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Before I say this, I apologize in advance to whomever I'm about to offend, it is not intentional: That said, this happens every time an OTA is around the corner. No matter how many warnings go out, however emphatic and polite, someone gets impatient, takes the OTA, then comes here pleading for help. Just before Froyo dropped, a rooted version of the official ROM (not a test) was actually out *before* Sprint released it, and some folks *still* took the OTA. It took weeks to get find a new exploit and bail them out. So please, please be patient. The devs rock, we'll have it within a day or two, if not hours, and sometimes, even sooner.
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if i use visionary temp root to be rooted, when i reboot my phone and its no longer rooted...am i able to update and then temp root again??
if i use visionary temp root to be rooted, when i reboot my phone and its no longer rooted...am i able to update and then temp root again??
No. Root methods are hboot and build specific, once the OTA drops you'll have to wait until another root exploit becomes available whether it's temp or permanent.
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i cant wait for the devs to tear the OTA apart and create some mean looking roms. the devs for kings, koni, and mikfroyo are awesome and i cannot wait for them to release there goodies to us.
I just recently rooted and am just curious and could be completely wrong... Doesn't Unrevoked Forever solve the not being able to get an OTA problem since you would remain rooted even if you accept an OTA update? If this is true, has anyone tried it and does it actually work? I was thinking about getting UNrevoked Forever just for this reason...
I just recently rooted and am just curious and could be completely wrong... Doesn't Unrevoked Forever solve the not being able to get an OTA problem since you would remain rooted even if you accept an OTA update? If this is true, has anyone tried it and does it actually work? I was thinking about getting UNrevoked Forever just for this reason...
If you run unrevoked, please do NOT accept the OTA. It is possible to bjork your phone up. The OTA uses the stock recovery to install, so when you run unrevoked it loads a custom recovery, thus making the OTA install not possible. Theres a slim chance something might start to install and really fubar things. I do nt recommend accepting the OTA.
I do recommend running unrevoked though. Best decision you can make. IMO
I just recently rooted and am just curious and could be completely wrong... Doesn't Unrevoked Forever solve the not being able to get an OTA problem since you would remain rooted even if you accept an OTA update? If this is true, has anyone tried it and does it actually work? I was thinking about getting UNrevoked Forever just for this reason...
If you are rooted with unrevoked 3.x then I believe it already flashed unrevoked forever. That said, accepting the OTA can screw up your current setup and make your phone unbootable til fixed. You will likely not lose root but no guarantees. Best thing to do is wait the few days(if that) for the rooted versions to come out and flash those.
I just recently rooted and am just curious and could be completely wrong... Doesn't Unrevoked Forever solve the not being able to get an OTA problem since you would remain rooted even if you accept an OTA update? If this is true, has anyone tried it and does it actually work? I was thinking about getting UNrevoked Forever just for this reason...
That was the claim when Unrevoked Forever first came out. But rooting is a cat and mouse game, and sometimes the cat wins, at least for awhile (ie, newer Moto phones are still a pain; you can get a ROM on them but still can't touch the kernel).
Bottom line: I don't have actual stats and facts to support this, but with the help of this forum and XDA, I've rooted several phones for myself and others. Going back to a few Heros, an Eris, an OG Droid, two or three Incs, a couple of Vibrants, and more than a few Evos, in researching various phone specific forums and threads for tips and procedures, I can't think of a single anecdotal instance of someone taking an OTA on a rooted phone without losing root, or worse. I'm pretty certain I've never read a post that said or implied, "Hey guess what! I took the OTA, my phone is still rooted, and better than ever." Most of the time, the devs bail them out, eventually. But why should they even have to? To be blunt, it's a simple concept. If you've rooted your phone, you've already demonstrated that you can follow a series of simple, methodical steps. Just add one more step:
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Step [last]. If you enjoy and value the added advantages, abilities, and freedoms to enhance and customize your phone to your own needs and preferences, then from here on in, never accept an OTA. Instead, just wait for the rooted version and all the variants that will inevitably arrive shortly thereafter (if not before).
Maybe (hopefully) that will change with HTC revisiting their bootloader policy. For now, if you take an OTA, don't get mad at Sprint or HTC for killing your root. By accepting an OTA, you are most likely throwing your root away, or possibly worse consequences, and have no one to blame but yourself.
Where should we UnrEVOked users be looking for the not-OTA update? I did the FroYo manual update also, so I'm not a total fool, just partial.
I like stock HTC Sense (heresy, I know), so I would prefer to stay with the official builds with a little root thrown in for spice.
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They will post them on XDA and likely the links will be posted here too when they are finished rooting them and ready for flashing. Keep looking here and XDA.
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So..For those who are Rooted and installed the official gingerbread update today, did any issues arise? did it break the root( which most likely it will)
For those who are Rooted and have not downloaded the update, will you be downloading it?
Last but not least, what should us Rooted users do? await an offical rooted version of gingerbread or dive into the OTA update and reroot later down the line?
So..For those who are Rooted and installed the official gingerbread update today, did any issues arise? did it break the root( which most likely it will)
For those who are Rooted and have not downloaded the update, will you be downloading it?
Last but not least, what should us Rooted users do? await an offical rooted version of gingerbread or dive into the OTA update and reroot later down the line?
Rooted users should NOT take the OTA. It may not even try to update as the stock recovery has been replaced with a custom recovery with the unrevoked process. A rooted version will be out in a few days for those that want the stock rom. Many are already running versions of 2.3. If you unroot to take the update, there is not telling how long it will be before an exploit for the latest update is found so you may be running stock for a bit before that happens. It is best IMO to wait for the rooted versions to come out.
I just read the flash for dummies, so someone verify I have this correct?
I am rooted and never flashed a ROM
I should install Rom Manager.
Then Downloaded the OTA Rooted imaged for 2.3 once posted to my SD card.
Then choose "INSTALL ROM FROM SD CARD"
I want to make sure I choose: BACK UP EXISTING ROM & WIPE DATA AND CACHE
Rom Manager should do the rest, correct?
Do I need to worry about Kernals or Radios?
Also, to stay as close to stock, do I want Odexed or DeOdexed?
Yeah, I am running a Unrevoked Rooted Evo 4G with the stock sense Rom (although I am running LauncherPro and GOLauncher Home apps and themese). I havent removed any Sprint software.
I tried the OTA Gingerbread update this morning and it downloads it and asks to install and it reboots, goes to the "unpacking screen" and then gives me the Android with the White Triangle and Exclamation mark.
For those of us that are rooted, do not try to apply the OTA. Just wait for a rooted version of the ROM to appear at XDA or from within ROM Manager (if you use it.), otherwise, you run the risk of borking your install and bricking your phone.
If you hit the warning screen during the OTA install, press the menu key and then the recovery window should appear. You can reboot from there without having to pull the battery.
Yeah, I am running a Unrevoked Rooted Evo 4G with the stock sense Rom (although I am running LauncherPro and GOLauncher Home apps and themese). I havent removed any Sprint software.
I tried the OTA Gingerbread update this morning and it downloads it and asks to install and it reboots, goes to the "unpacking screen" and then gives me the Android with the White Triangle and Exclamation mark.
I have to do a battery pull to boot back up.
Chris
So in the end, did the OTA take? I'm assuming you lost root because it sounds like you don't have a custom recovery any more.
So in the end, did the OTA take? I'm assuming you lost root because it sounds like you don't have a custom recovery any more.
I had the same thing happen to me. Since we are using a custom recovery and rooted with unrevoked forever, the signature validation fails because the stock recovery is missing AND the security is off. There is a chance, that if you un-root, you can get the install to start, but it will brick your phone because the Stock recovery is missing.
I'M ROOTED WITH UNREVOKED 3.. FORCE POPPED THE KERNEL AND HBOOT ..NOW I'M ROOTED WITH NEW UPDATE!!! Found sure fire way to stay rooted and receive OTA updates...whooooot...
I just read the flash for dummies, so someone verify I have this correct?
I am rooted and never flashed a ROM
I should install Rom Manager.
Then Downloaded the OTA Rooted imaged for 2.3 once posted to my SD card.
Then choose "INSTALL ROM FROM SD CARD"
I want to make sure I choose: BACK UP EXISTING ROM & WIPE DATA AND CACHE
Rom Manager should do the rest, correct?
Do I need to worry about Kernals or Radios?
Also, to stay as close to stock, do I want Odexed or DeOdexed?
Thank you so much!
My suggestion would be to NOT use Rom Manager. It is buggy and has been known to cause problems. I would start doing everything manually through recovery. It will get you comfortable with it and if you ever have an issue with your phone not booting, you will know your way around to get it fixed and running again. Kernels will come with the rom and not sure yet if there is a radio update or not. If so, it will need to be flashed separately.
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I'M ROOTED WITH UNREVOKED 3.. FORCE POPPED THE KERNEL AND HBOOT ..NOW I'M ROOTED WITH NEW UPDATE!!! Found sure fire way to stay rooted and receive OTA updates...whooooot...
What is your new hboot version? do you still have s-off? are you still able to use root only apps?
HTC EVO Gingerbread update has begun rolling out today and some of the users are lucky to get it over OTA. But some of them who are eagerly waiting here is the official Gingerbread update Rom dump.Ready to download,nothing has touched,fresh and clean.
Don't try it just had to wipe and reboot.. so much for taking advice..people are just mean..if if gonna message someone..don't lie..you could of messed me up..and if I posted what was sent to me..I'm sure others too..keep it honest and accurate.
Don't try it just had to wipe and reboot.. so much for taking advice..people are just mean..if if gonna message someone..don't lie..you could of messed me up..and if I posted what was sent to me..I'm sure others too..keep it honest and accurate.
That was the reason I asked. I didn't see anything on XDA yet about a rooted version so I assumed it was stock. Posters need to vet what they are putting up or unknowing rooters will try this stuff and screw up their phones.
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To start off, I'm Unrevoked forever on my stock Evo 4g.
I understand that I need to wait for a rooted update.
My question is, when this update comes out, what form will it be in? Update.zip? If so, when I run it, will it wipe my apps and data? I have a titanium backup, but I'd just rather not have anything missing (apps, texts and such). Is this even possible?
It worked for 15 mins..then got the black with red triangle..had to take battery and wipe and reboot and root again..gotta love people taking advantage of someone's excitement..
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