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I've got friends asking me to root their phones, and they don't have evos!
Og Droids, thunderbolts, DroidX, IPhones! Wtf! I'm sure I missed one in there.
The one friend is a software engineer, and he's asking a highway construction worker to root his piece. That's like an oxymoron!
Haha same with me! I root friends' phones as well and it's weird cause I work with mentally disabled adults but they're more into computers. One of my friends actually builds computers and wasn't able to figure out the rooting...crazy stuff man! I've never tried building a computer but assume it's way more difficult than a simple root.
ok so i added this link<Collaboration><Dev><Ideas> HTC Evo 2.3.3 Gingerbread Root Collaboration. - xda-developers to the op, so others can follow. but please people do not comment there. it really disrupts the flow and very annoying to the devs. even if you are giving praise and all. just refrain from doing it at least until and exploit is found. i hate when i have to go through 5-10 pages of "good job" and "you guys are amazing" before i read any info that is of value.
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ok so i added this link<Collaboration><Dev><Ideas> HTC Evo 2.3.3 Gingerbread Root Collaboration. - xda-developers to the op, so others can follow. but please people do not comment there. it really disrupts the flow and very annoying to the devs. even if you are giving praise and all just refrain from doing it at least until and exploit is found. i hate when i have to go through 5-10 pages of "good job" and "you guys are amazing" before i read any info that is of value.
damn...never thought about that..im glad u said that about not posting to say thank u or anything as it aggravates the dev's...good point sorry for bein one of those people sometimes haha ;P
damn...never thought about that..im glad u said that about not posting to say thank u or anything as it aggravates the dev's...good point sorry for bein one of those people sometimes haha ;P
yeah no worries, you can do it here though if you like. lol
just not over there. info is coming and going very fast and those comments (though they mean well) just ruins the flow. i mean you can comment, but only if you have something to contribute.
see what i mean? have you read the last page or so of that thread? stupid comments from stupid people. i hope the thread is not slowing down. i hope they can just jump right in and more progress can be made.
It seems to me that the problem with rooting gingerbread sounds a lot like the problem that the droid eris guys had back in the day... Maybe there should be some reasearch into the exploit that was used for the Eris...
Well from the sound of things, the collaboration is just a waste of time, since the s-off hack has been discovered by the alpharevx team, it's just a matter of time before it's perfected and released to the public. I suppose it's possible that the collaboration thread could find another exploit, or stumble onto the same one, but I think what's done is done, and we're just waiting until it's ready to be released to the public.
It was a great idea, but it seems unnecessary now since the exploit found by the alpharevx team supposedly works across all current HTC bootloaders.
Well from the sound of things, the collaboration is just a waste of time, since the s-off hack has been discovered by the alpharevx team, it's just a matter of time before it's perfected and released to the public. I suppose it's possible that the collaboration thread could find another exploit, or stumble onto the same one, but I think what's done is done, and we're just waiting until it's ready to be released to the public.
It was a great idea, but it seems unnecessary now since the exploit found by the alpharevx team supposedly works across all current HTC bootloaders.
yeah that is what they are saying. i don't think that they have tested it out on an evo yet. as far as i'm aware of at least. hopefully, they have and they are close to a release soon. totally stoked though that he is joining the unrevoked team.
and yeah that thread kind of fizzled out fast. unless there was something there and that the few who contributed maybe be collaborating on the side. its just a bunch of useless posts now.
I'm most excited to root to get a custom kernel back. I'm sitting at 56% now since taking my phone off the charger at about 7 am this morning. I used to never be below 75% at lunchtime with Tiamat or SZ on CM7. I can't wait to have it back.
Although part of me wonders if Google+ is part of my battery drain issue.
Any news yet on whether the alpharevx teams exploit will work for the EVO?
yeah it is said that the exploit they have found for the sensation might be able to work across all bootloaders. they have not said anything about the evo as of yet. do not hold your breath on this one until there is confirmation that this is true. it is only speculative at this point, until it is tested on an evo.
not that i'm aware of. these devs like to keep things under wraps for fear of htc or sprint finding out and closing whatever exploit they may or may not have found. unless your in tight with one of these guys, you will have to wait and here about it when it is released to the public.
Any danger in accepting the latest PRL update (I got a prompt this morning)? I feel like we're gonna get news soon and I don't want to screw anything up.
he still aint posted the walkthrough or whatever for it yet tho has he? i think hes just sittin back laughin at the screen at all the people bitchn bout him not postin it yet lol
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Any danger in accepting the latest PRL update (I got a prompt this morning)? I feel like we're gonna get news soon and I don't want to screw anything up.
AlphaRev X - Make it your phone
anybody tried this public release on the evo 4g yet?
i mean is this the exploit that supposedly possible works accross all hboot versions?
AlphaRev X - Make it your phone
anybody tried this public release on the evo 4g yet?
i mean is this the exploit that supposedly possible works accross all hboot versions?
The Evo doesn't seem to be listed on the supported devices list. Not sure I would try this yet.
not that i'm aware of. i believe that the devs are close and that they are keep a lid on it until they know for sure. i could be wrong. you can always follow alpharex on his irc chat:freenode Web IRC (qwebirc). he is one of the devs that is working on breaking the exploit. i pop in and out every now and then to check. also you can follow him on twitter as well.
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HELP!! ME WANT ROOT!!! (htc Evo 4G)
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OK so i have an Evo 4G 2.3.3 and I would like to Root it. is there ANY WAY POSSIBLE, this can be done?? Can i Down grade my software, Undo my OTA update? ANYTHING??? any help would be great!!
OK so i have an Evo 4G 2.3.3 and I would like to Root it. is there ANY WAY POSSIBLE, this can be done?? Can i Down grade my software, Undo my OTA update? ANYTHING??? any help would be great!!
Does anyone know about any progress on a new root for gingerbreaders?!
hello again,
so i moved your thread into this one. i understand that you are axious to get your phone rooted, but please read the original post for this thread. it explains it all. also we will post when an exploit is found and we will have a sticky for how to root your phone. be patient, the devs are working on it.
ok guys and gals,
i just added to the op a few places to go if you want to follow along and see how the devs are doing. just do me a favor if you get any news of an exploit please post here on this thread and provide a link if you can.
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damn it! that is why you should not post on the dev side unless you have legit issues or problems with the rom. that is strictly for devs. i wish there was a way to restrict people from posting on threads like that. well it had promise hopefully something good came out of it. bummer
So basically that means we wont get any word from the devs on their progress until the root method finally comes out? That sucks. Oh well, what can you do i guess
So basically that means we wont get any word from the devs on their progress until the root method finally comes out? That sucks. Oh well, what can you do i guess
It's not like we were getting any real info anyway. I hope it's officially cracked soon.
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For those new to the conversation...the reason being that devs keep a tight mouth on the subject is that they don't want Sprint/HTC to know what's up.
People like ocnbrze and myself don't like seeing people post on the official dev chat threads because it takes up so much space.
Here on Android Forums, ocnbrze created this exact thread you are reading because people were doing exactly this!!...Millions of threads read, "Is a root out yet?" Over and over and over again with the same post. People like myself wanted a clear answer and not to cycle through pages and pages of comments of the same thing being asked..."when will the root come?" "is it ready?"
And thinking of the devs, they don't want people to be constantly asking them over and over and over again about their work. They are doing us a free service and don't want to be bothered or have countless amounts of people bugging them and "tapping" them, digitally, about their work. It kinda slows them down.
Guaranteed as Android Forums is one of the number one places on the net to be, you WILL know when a root is released and a step by step guide that has been used will be released for those of you looking for a root.
Please be patient and understand that these take time. As time goes on, Sprint/HTC have made it harder and harder for people to crack their official updates.
The best thing to do, if possible in the future, is to not update your phone to latest firmware/etc. if you can help it as you can see the problems that arise.
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thank you ndh777, well said. i agree that this is the best place to go to know when root is possible. just be glad that this site does not tolerate flaming like they do over on xda. we are so much nicer here. lol
also guys i tweeked the op to reflect what nhd77 said. and added additional info on who to follow.
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thank you ndh777, well said. i agree that this is the best place to go to know when root is possible. just be glad that this site does not tolerate flaming like they do over on xda. we are so much nicer here. lol
also guys i tweeked the op to reflect what nhd77 said. and added additional info on who to follow.
lol thanks. Just thought it needed to be said. That's one of the reasons I use AF more than XDA. I wouldn't be any other place.
Sorry for being a bit out of touch; been busy with mod stuff and Evo 3D rooting area. Thought I could clear some things up.
1) HTC changed some stuff regarding their hardware which makes rooting quite the different beast than before. A lot of you have latched on to the fact that AlphaRevX has an S-OFF exploit for Sensation and Evo 3D. But unfortunately, their exploit is likely specific to the NEW security hardware in HTC phones, which doesn't apply to the Evo 4G. So as of right now, I would not get your hopes up that the AlphaRevX exploit can be tweaked to work for the Evo 4G. It seems to be very specific to the new eMMC memory, which is not used on Evo 4G.
2) The AlphaRevX exploit is an S-OFF exploit, not a root exploit. It's unclear whether you need superuser to execute the exploit. A little bit of drama developed: agrabren (a dev) found a temp root exploit for E3D, called Fre3vo. It was temporary in that you lost it on a reboot. agrabren shared that exploit with AlphaRevX, who turned around and said something to the effect of, "thanks for sharing, but we have S-OFF already, so we don't need Fre3vo." It was kind of a surprise to all that this group already had an S-OFF proof of concept for two weeks. It's unclear whether they also found a root exploit (independently of agrabren's Fre3vo) to help them achieve S-OFF, or if they found a direct way to set that security flag without needing superuser on the filesystem.
3) agrabren is currently trying to temp root a bunch of devices, including the Evo 4G. His exploit was in a kernel that is written for qualcomm processors. If his Fre3vo exploit can be modified for Evo 4G, that might be enough foot in the door to get S-OFF. IMO, this is currently our best bet for fully rooting Evo 4G. I recommend people interested to follow agrabren's twitter feed: https://twitter.com/#!/agrabren
4) If a root exploit is hard to find, that is a good thing for Android. It means the ROM is very secure. Remember, root devs exploit the phones for the greater good. Not everyone is of that mind set. Some will exploit the phone for malicious intent. If a phone is easily exploited, that's a very bad thing. So the fact that gingerbread has been a tough nut to crack means that previous holes have been patched, and overall the ROM is more robust and secure. Unfortunately it means that it will take longer to find an exploit. And one always has to be prepared that root will never be achieved again; therefore for those of you already rooted, always cherish rooted status and never give it away lightly.
5) there are multiple ways to skin a cat. Evo 4G was originally rooted with OS-level exploits. agrabren's exploit attacks the kernel code. There could be an exploit in the new HBOOT which could give S-OFF before superuser. Once S-OFF is achieved, you can flash a recovery image. From there, you can flash any custom ROM to obtain superuser. Evo 4G just needs more manpower to hunt for an exploit.
6) Finally, there will come a time for any phone where the number of developers willing to support it drops to a point where no more rooting progress will be made. We all need to accept this. I don't think the Evo 4G is there yet, but it could be soon. Not trying to be pessimistic, but I think it's something we should all think about, especially when you are considering your next phone purchase. If HTC is true to its word, perhaps in the future, bootloader security will be relaxed or removed for good, and all of this becomes a lot less relevant.
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So basically if we can root this version, don't change it again..just work with it and use it in rooted state.
$400 phones now have a shelf life of one year. That's just sad that people have to buy the latest and greatest every year. What a complete waste of money. How someone can go from worshiping their phone and raving about it, to buying a brand new one in 365 days is beyond me.
$400 phones now have a shelf life of one year. That's just sad that people have to buy the latest and greatest every year. What a complete waste of money. How someone can go from worshiping their phone and raving about it, to buying a brand new one in 365 days is beyond me.
It's all part of the plan my friend, it's all part of the plan.
Yep it's part of the plan. Phone addicted people keep buying into it. It is sad..people need to step back and think how much they blow on nonsense. A Cell phone should give someone 2-4 years of quality service at the pricepoint they are at.
That's sad news but all we can do is way till a root is available, So for everyone out there i just want to say you gotta be patient and you gotta remeber the devz are reguler people like us doing all this for us in there spare time, you cant be mad at them only greatful for ANY news they give us. Also is there a way we can donate to them? a few bux here and there will build up and it will help them out!! Thanks!
When Sprint announced their first ever 4G handset at CTIA in March 2010, they dropped a bombshell on the mobile world. The HTC Evo 4G is a device that introduces a lot of firsts when compared to other North American handsets. This is the first Andr... Read More
sorry for bein one of those people sometimes haha ;P
lol 
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but all we can do is way till a root is available, So for everyone out there i just want to say you gotta be patient and you gotta remeber the devz are reguler people like us doing all this for us in there spare time, you cant be mad at them only greatful for ANY news they give us. Also is there a way we can donate to them? a few bux here and there will build up and it will help them out!! Thanks!
