bupolo

After tons of time and energy rooting and getting no benefit other than more space on my phone, everything, and I mean everything, else being worse on the phone, I really wish I'd never done this in the first place. So very, very, very frustrating. I use to really like this phone

Last edited by bupolo; March 10th, 2012 at 01:49 PM.

dustwun77

I hate you have had so much trouble, but your experience is hardly typical.

what exactly is going on, maybe we can get you straight yet.

geewhiz

? What's the problem?

What ROM are you using?

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You don't see that too often.....

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youdoofus

this is indeed odd... what issues are you experiencing? Your phone should be faster, more responsive and have a HELL of a better battery life not to mention the ability to remove the stupid a$$ bloatware that sprint thinks that evo users cant live without... talk to us goose!!

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bupolo

I'm currently using CM7 and was using Tiamat 3.3.8. 3.3.7 sucked for my phone (battery died in about half a day with minimal use).

3.3.8 was less responsive (I sometimes have to touch the screen twice so it understand I'm selecting something), everything lags, like loading apps and opening text messages. Doesn't connect to bluetooth easily, the GPS jumps all over the place, and Navigation lags. If I try to have navigation on and talk on the phone at the same time, I've got about 10 minutes, then the phone will FC.

The latest? The Recovery mysteriously switched back to some other type of recovery, so when I reinstalled Amon Ra, I can't do anything except load my one and only nandroid from 2 months ago, else it just goes into a bootloader loop (I try to restart and it send me to the bootloader everytime, can't get it to go to the phone).

The phone just sucks on CM7, and it wasn't much better on Mik3.0. I don't have the time to spend reinstalling everything every 3 days to try to find the match that works, I just want my phone to work the way it used to.

bupolo

And they were not bad downloads. I downloaded 3.3.8 and 4.0.6 twice trying to make sure it wasn't the download.

Trying to figure out how to send the phone back to its original state now, I've completely had enough with this rooting bullshit.

dustwun77

run with it Doofus.

bupolo

Was this for me?

dustwun77

No, I was hoping Youdoofus would carry the load and help you.

youdoofus

that is one weird set of issues man... as far as the nav goes, id stick to sense based roms to avoid having to tinker with the gps fix thats out there (which totally works btw) as to avoid having to spend too much time on it. The word on the street is that mik3.0 roms are super smooth, but im a cm7 guy. Im betting that its your caches that are jacked up and need to be mega wiped. If you go into recovery and do a factory reset(aw hell, do it twice for good measure) then install the rom again, im betting that itll instantly start working better. But the world of root and custom roms does require a it of hands on man. Thats not to say that you need to spend hours a day trolling the forum looking stuff up and all that, but once you start messing around with it and get double the battery life (as i did) then youll likely have an entirely different view on the subject. Anyways, if youre not at all interested in getting your hands dirty (digitally at least) id flash something from miks 3.0 lineup and a custom kernel or something along those lines after having done a factory reset and see where youre at then. Good luck man, and let us know if you have any other questions or need some walkthru type of help.

Last edited by youdoofus; February 12th, 2012 at 12:12 AM.

dustwun77

I don't know how to unroot, I would have to read the guide like you would.

i can't understand why your phone is having so much trouble.

My suspicion is that your phone isn't getting along with the kernels.

I have run mikg3.0 pretty much nonstop since it came out and only probs i have had were with custom kernels.

Think we need to take a breath, get this latest fixed, then get you on Mikg3.o on the stock kernel.

edit: there he is! caches, yes. step by step...

Last edited by dustwun77; February 11th, 2012 at 05:07 PM.

youdoofus

to quote Christopher Walken from Joe Dirt, "Im on it!!"

dustwun77

you GO boy!

youdoofus

and to go along with dustwun, it is VERY likely that your phone isnt too keen on the kernel selection. Each evo reacts differently to a kernel. I run cm7 and its flippin awesome. I put the first tiamat kernel released on it, it sucked butt. I put a different tiamat kernel on it, its awesome again. So, anyone telling you which kernel to run as an absolute best combo for every phone is leading you down the wrong path. We can tall you what our experiences are, and you can try em out, but theres no golden combo for every cm7/tiamat user out there. These things are like women holmes, some like beer and a football game, and her twin sister likes wine and cheese... Strange analogy, i know, but hopefully gets the point across

here, try this and try it with the stock kernel first

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argedion

First I see a very grave misconception here. I have seen this misconception quite a bit and that is "Rooting has destroyed my________" you can fill in the blank. I will try to explain this best I can Maybe Capt. will show up and further educate people on what exactely root is.

Ok The Jist of it:
Rooting your phone is really just a fancy way of saying "I've turned Securitys OFF" This means that you have told the hardware to turn off the security that would normally prevent you from being able to change the "Boot, System" Partitions. Unlocking Nand allows you to flash to said system. (hope I got this the right way) Nand is where you can backup, flash, and restore. Having the Partitions Securites off does nothing to your phones ROM or Kernel or Radio's

If your having Problems then they are 1. Rom related or 2. Kernel related problems. These can be caused by several different factors.
1. Improper Wipe of the System before Flashing the ROM. - This is on of the most common problems that I see with Systems. The person did not properly wipe. Sometimes its not the persons fault they have downloaded and flashed Clockwork Mod recovery. This recovery is Known for improper wipes. That is Why Amon RA is Highly Recomended here. Amon Ra 2.3 it just works.
2.Not Properly wiping cach/dalvic before flashing a new Kernel.
3. Bad downloads
4. Bad Transfers (From Computer to Phone)
5. Cause sometimes in life shit happens

The only other thing that will cause problems is an actual hardware failure which again has nothing to do with rooting the phone.

If a Rom is not working as expected first thing one should do is ASK
As Youdoofus has stated Rooting means getting your hands dirty. If you do not wish to go through the hassel then AOSP is not really for you. You are better off with a Sense ROM. MIKG seems to be the prefered. However even with Sense ROMs sometimes you have to get your hands dirty. I hope I was able to solve some confusion as to common misconceptions and basic trouble shooting.

Our Resident RXpert has also written a very useful trouble shooting guide. You can Link to it from my sig and can also link to it from the Rooting Guide. Also In my Sig (Not for 2.18)

If one has problems with something they should ask for help. I am more than confident that anyproblem short of the bootloop of death can be fixed. I'm not so sure that the "Bootloop of Death" can't be fixed however we have yet to find a way and it has only affected a small amount of users.

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argedion

Talk about throwing someone under the bus

MizzouBrent

In response to the OP. Never fear. I have the solution to all that ails you. You can thank me later. Here is a post I made in another thread. Read, read, read. This will fix everything you're having trouble with. I guarantee it.

VERY IMPORTANT - Kernels take time to settle. You will not see the effects of a custom kernel on your battery life for at least two days.

Here is how to solve all your problems.

1) and this is a 100% must. Get Amon RA 2.3. Link is in my signature. If you're messing around with Clockwork you're asking for trouble. Amon RA 2.3 works every time, 100% of the time. It is a flawless recovery and you should be running it on your Evo if you aren't already.

1a) Make sure you're not using ROM Manager and you do all the below steps while in recovery. ROM Manager has been proven to be buggy. Stay away.

2) Every time you flash a rom, you need to wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache and wipe dalvik cache. One time only. Like I said, with Amon RA, it works the first time. No need to wipe anything multiple times.

3) For good measure, download Calkulin's format all zip file and flash this too
http://db.tt/emsg8Z8P

4) Now you're ready to flash a rom. Did you check the md5 to ensure it's a good download? If not, be sure to do that as well.

5) Now flash your rom, flash your gapps and flash your kernel (if you want...the kernel is optional)

6) Reboot. Restoring anything with Titanium? Only restore user apps (green colored text). Do NOT restore any system data (red colored text).

This should solve all of your problems. And yes, I suggest Deck 1.3d over any build of CM7. It's flawless, everything works. Yes, Deck 1.3d is technically a beta, but ask anyone over in the XDA thread (or me) and we are all pretty much in agreement that it's superior to the "stable" build. Trust me on this one. The link for that is in my sig too, just scroll down to the download links and you should be able to find it in there. If you have any trouble, I can shoot you the direct link.

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dustwun77

We couldn't BOTH catch the ball,

MizzouBrent

I would bet $1,000 fake dollars that the OP is using clockworkmod. Ugh. Amon RA is the only recovery an Evo owner needs. 2.3 is my version of choice. Here is the link if you can't see my signature.

Here is the link to the thread on XDA
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Download the PC36IMG.zip file and put it in your sd root. That means to put it in the top level of your SD, so don't put it in any folders. Then turn off your phone. Once it's powered down, hold vol-down and power until the white screen comes on. When it asks if you want to update, select yes. It will install, then ask if you want to reboot. Select no. Then go into recovery like you normally would.

MizzouBrent

Ok one more. Stick with the stock kernel on your rom to start. It's not a great kernel but it gets the job done. Once you determine that you like everything, make a nandroid backup and then flash Tiamat 3.3.7 (Aka the LEE kernel, because it kicks ass). It works extremely well for most everyone.

bupolo

I am using Amon Ra and do the 3 wipes + 2 Superwipes.

Thanks for all the input, it's been a very frustrating experience.

MizzouBrent

Ok, well that's probably overkill but it's not hurting anything. Did you restore any apps or anything with Titanium/Mybackuppro or anything like that after you flashed? It's possible that your phone just doesn't like Tiamat for some reason. I would just flash with the stock kernel that is included with the ROM.

dustwun77

sounds like it, and I hate it for you.

Slug

Hi!

I spotted the OP, started reading and realised that I had to say "thanks" for such awesome support. This is what AF is all about - you guys rock!

Good luck, bupolo. With folk like this on your side though, I don't think you'll need it.

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Rxpert83

Everyone here has offered some great advice and theres nothing really left to add to it.

Root didn't mess up your phone, your phone just doesnt like your ROM/kernel combo.

For proof, flash the stock ROM.


Never noticed that was there, 'Preciate it man.

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Haha! It was the stock rom and problems associated with it, that led me to root in the 1st place! All the issues I've had with root (I bricked my 1st evo by flashing radios, and not reading fully), and I still would never go back to stock!!

Good luck man! Personally...I find cm7 to b quite glitchy... if you really wanna go back to stock.... maybe try a froyo stock rom.... at least on the stock froyo, everything worked well.....

mikem0269

If you realy want the phone the way it was I would just flash back to the latest OTA rooted rom with the stock kernel. I must say that this was the first OTA my daughters evo got (not rooted) that realy did fix everything including battery. She is getting 8 to 10 additonal hours of heavy use totaling like 16 hours on 1 charge. Do this but stay s off and rooted so you can run the rooted apps. S on or s off is going to have no effect on anything except what you can do with the phone. Just my 2c.

airfaron23

Also make sure if you are using an AOSP rom like Deck 1.3d or CM7 to only use an AOSP kernel like Tiamat or Salvage Zen. If your using a Sense rom like MikG or Tommeytomatoes Classic, use a Sense kernel like Chopsuey 9.2.7 or Freedom.

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NaterTots

Since you mentioned you went to CM7, if you made a Titanium Backup of all the apps and data if you try to just restore all the HTC sense widgets won't play nice with CM7.

You want to make sure you only restore market apps for the most part not system apps as they don't get along with all different systems.

Hope you get it resolved. MikG3.0, Tommy Tomatoe or the new OTA Rooted rom are all very stable and run well.

If you want lightweight then try NoLimits06's rom. It has most things that aren't needed removed. It's fast, light and has great battery life.

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youdoofus

Holy sh!t!!! this post brought the attention of a couple of mods?!? Slug, you bear the name of my favorite rapper, but man... i havent seen you post on a E4G post in quite some time(if ever b4)... nice to see you 'round holmes btw, yes the E4G is still a bad ass machine and is still kickin ___ and not givin a crap about the names LoL

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bupolo

Thanks everyone that posted, I needed some time to calm down. I just loaded a nandroid I had from awhile ago and have been dealing with lag/reboots/etc waiting to have some time to flash a different ROM.

I think I'm going to stick with Mik3. I use my latitude/navigation/gps on a daily basis and don't want to have to be trying to tweek it constantly to get it to work with the GPS fix.

Did Mik3 come out with an updated version of his ROM today/yesterday? If so, is this the download link: MikG v3.0 [12/17/2011] How do I confirm that the download was good? Does he have the newest update for download yet? If so, where do I get that?

I'm just going to wipe everything, factory reset and start over. Just load Mik3 and GAPPS and not mess with a kernel for awhile.

dustwun77

Hey there!

No prob, glad you came back. I haven't heard that the update is out yet. might be out as we speak though.

One thing, you will not need to flash Gapps with Mikg3.0.

I think that is the version of 3.0 that I am running now. Are you going to dl it with your pc and then transfer it to the phone? I think you could check the Md5 of the file and compare it with what you dl, I have had very few bad dl's though.

Let me know if you want to do that checking, I will try to help you figure it out. should be good though.

Good luck, read up on what the guys said, Like MB's directions, and remember not to restore any system apps with TB!

bupolo

Thank you!

Yes, I would be downloading from my computer and then transferring to my cell phone. What do I have to do to check it?

If i wanted to keep up with when the new Mik3 comes out, where should I be

NaterTots

There will be a thread for it in this forum. Many here are waiting for it.

Or stalk the MikMik forums. But if it goes to one it will be mentioned within 10 minutes at the other I'm sure.

dustwun77

I had a simple app to do it with at one point but never had a prob so I misplaced and forgot it.

Check out this link though. http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/138831-verify-your-files-md5-checksums.html

Some filemanagers do it too, I have read, can't remember which one though.

edit: duh, Astro does it...

edit 2: Here is what the md5 was reported to be at the thread, 2nd post. 0e5ff2ef1adcd8167c87b8aac2950415

Last edited by dustwun77; February 28th, 2012 at 04:54 PM.

argedion

First of all thats why we are here to help. We exist here for that sole purpose.

MikG seems to be the favorite and the most stable from what I've heard. I'm an underdog at heart so never do the popular things I'm just wired differently thats all

DO NOT FLASH GAPPS WITH MIKG Gaps is only needed for AOSP ROMS not for Sense ROM's. Gapps is already included in those. Flashing Gapps may not do any harm but then again if could really screw things up especially if there are version conflicts

Never feel like your asking a dumb question either. We here feel the only dumb question is one that is never asked. If you are not sure of something ask we will provide you with an ANSWER not a "didn't you do a search" seriously we are here to help you not condemn you.

MizzouBrent

Per mikmik just a but ago...

sorry for the delay guys... i had to have a few things tested before release...
it is now 730pm over here...
i should have the release out for u guys in 2 version... 1 will full wipe your stuff, the other wont (but must come from mikg and not another rom).

i will have the change log up in an hour or 2 and the d/l links up by midnight (probably before but i dont want u guys to expect it before then).

mikekelso421

please consider this..this is coming from a LONG TIME CM7 USER!!!

so,I AM HARD CORE CyanogenMod..have always been...i found sense roms to be TERRIBLE ON MY BATTERY.CM7/Tiamat combo always my choice,thanks to OcnBreeze...BUT,i recently flashed the latest OTA 4.67 with chopsuey kernel/stock kernel..and let me just say,this ROM replace my phone rom (boot manager 8+ ROMs on sd card)...this ROM is BEST BATTERY LIFE ive had with ANY other sense roms..everything works PERFECTLY as if you never tampered with it. gps,mms,no lag,720p,just EVERYTHING works..(add quicksettings mod to give it that sense 2.1 feel and convienience..also 4-in-1 reboot for added convienience)

if you want to have your phone back to how it was,this is my suggestion..i PROMISE you wont be sorry.hope this helps!and sorry bout your luck..loko at the brightside,you didnt brick a phone like SOME people is this community (me)lol so your doing good so far..patience will pay off,WE PROMISE!

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bupolo

Thanks for the info! Is the OTA 4.67 a ROM I can flash? If so, where can I get it? For those who have installed the new Mik version, how do they like it?

NaterTots

The new MikG 3.1, which has a thread, is based on the new OTA 4.67.
It has what looks to me as the same tweaks and options as MikG 3.0 haD . It's just based on the newest software version 4.67.

Or there are a few other 4.67 Roms posted here. The Nitrous one

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/509660-rom-2-3-5-4-67-__nitrous-1-3-3-accelerate-your-evo-twin-turbo.html

the NoLimit06 Rom.
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/493098-rom-nolimit06s-ota-4-67-slim-tweaked-v1-2-0-02-08-12-a.html

Diablo 67's new 4.67 Rom
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/498973-rom-red-line-v-1-0-1-custom-4-67-651-3-update-02-14-12-a.html
and a bunch of others.

If you want something that looks totally stock but has some options with the ability to delete the apps you don't want there is the new Optimized OTA 4.67.

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/502642-rom-4-67-rooted-optimized-sharing-means-caring.html
Also a thread here for that.

Just wanted to add the newest 4.67 to be thrown into the ring. Looks very nice.

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/510072-team-revolations-rev-rom-v-1-0-a.html


Naters

Last edited by NaterTots; March 4th, 2012 at 11:51 AM. Reason: Links

mikekelso421

yea,its on xda.brad posted it. Its very very stable and it has some flashable mods in another thread by Tommy tomato.

bupolo

Ok, so I flashed Mik3.1. This is how I did it:
1. I downloaded the Mik3.1 file and ran the Vudu Script MD5 checker to make sure the download was good. I moved it to the SD card and checked it again.
2. I did a nandroid backup.
3. I moved the nandroids, dtapps2ds-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed, PC36IMG (do I still need this if I already have Amon Ra installed?), ZZZVR_SUPERWIPE, and MikG-v3.1-signed to my computer.
3. I partitioned my SD card again so that I could have 2048 for internal storage rather than 1028. I upgraded ext2 to ext3. I did not move everything from my SD card because I've already pulled off pictures and I want a nice clean new everything.
4. I did "Wipe ALL userdata/factory reset"
5. I wiped cache/dalvic cache/data/sdext 3 times.
6. I put newest nandroid, dtapps2ds-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed, PC36IMG, ZZZVR_SUPERWIPE, and MikG-v3.1 - signed back onto the SD card.
7. I flashed superwipe.
8. I flashed MikG-v.3.1
9. I rebooted.

Did I miss anything?

dustwun77

Looks good to me.

regarding dtapps2ds-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed, I understand that is for DarkTremors, a2sd. You should find that you do not need to flash that with this rom as it is already supported.

as for the PC36IMG file, you will want to rename it if you keep it on your card to keep the phone from finding it when you boot.

bupolo

Thank you!! If I don't need to use Dark Tremors, what do I need to do to reinstall apps to ext3, or is that all done automatically?

Also, this is the first time I've reloaded a new ROM and it didn't freeze on the first reboot on both the white HTC boot screen and ROM boot screen. So far so good I guess.

dustwun77

Right, when you install the apps they will be put onto your sd ext automatically with this rom.

dustwun77

Now then, the only way I know to 'see' that the apps are on the sd ext is with Titanium Backup (pro)

When I open the app, at the bottom, there are 4 lines that show how memory is being utilized,

Systom Rom:
Internal:
SD card:
SD card (a2sd): Mostly empty but being used.

Green bars show the usage. The phone, in settings, will report various things, but I understand it might be inaccurate. A2sd supposedly 'fools' the phone. It creates a symbolic link in the phone to the app on the sd card and the phone seems to actually think it is still on the phone.

bupolo

Using Titanium backup I'm seeing

Systom Rom: 367 MB (17.2 MB free)
Internal: 446 MB (383 MB free)
SD card: 13.9 GB (13.6 GB free)
SD card (a2sd): 1.91 gb (1.79 GB Free)

Look right? I've only got a few apps beyond what Mik3.1 came with now installed

dustwun77

Yes! looks great to me.

Be a good idea to make a nandroid at this point too.

edit: Oh, and did you see how I spelled system?

Last edited by dustwun77; March 8th, 2012 at 04:29 PM.

CapThrowback

Nice. Quick question for you - any chance you'd think about changing the title of the thread? I know you were very disgruntled and frustrated at the time of posting, but I hope we've been able to make you feel better about being rooted .

I wouldn't want anyone to miss out on the thrill and freedom of rooting because they just looked at the title of the thread without reviewing its content. Just a thought .

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