Just curious as to how often we should be clearing-wiping the Cache and Dalvik Cache? My wife tried to do it via the MikG system pages but it seemed to aggravate the phone more, more freezes, etc..So I went in the other way you explained to me sometime ago and cleaned out the 2 caches 3 to 4 times and things have calmed down quite a bit. Still looking through all the MikG system pages to find where we can set the scaling for the governor but at least we are having less issues.
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well as far as kernels go it is hard to recommend a kernel as all kernels will react differently on different phones. so what works for you might not work for me. try either the anthrax kernel or the freedom (more aggressive universal freedom kernel works for me). you can get the kernels here:ROMs and Kernels Download Page
as far as the hotspot is concerned, you do not have to do anything. just start using it.
I almost never go in and clear caches just to clear them out. Usually I clear them out because I'm flashing some kind of mod to the phone. But if I run the same thing for a week, I might do it once. And maybe not that often.
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Aloha Ocenbrze, Rxpert, MizzouBrent and folks,
Just curious as to how often we should be clearing-wiping the Cache and Dalvik Cache? My wife tried to do it via the MikG system pages but it seemed to aggravate the phone more, more freezes, etc..So I went in the other way you explained to me sometime ago and cleaned out the 2 caches 3 to 4 times and things have calmed down quite a bit. Still looking through all the MikG system pages to find where we can set the scaling for the governor but at least we are having less issues.
Mahalo!
mikg will not have the ability to scale the cpu or set governors. the only one that can do that is setcpu which is an app you can get from google play.
and i only wipe when i feel things are slowing down. and like mizzou said i usually flash something new every week which always require wiping the caches any ways.
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Thank you for explaining this. I did not realize that SetCPU is an app that one has to pay for. My wife and I were going crazy because with the CM7 system, we could get in and set the governor but could not find that with MikG.
We downloaded the ROM Toolbox Lite version as it is free and are now testing it out.
Also, interesting about not having to clear the caches just to clear them. Not sure what might have happened but since clearing them, things have been more stable. My wife I think set the governor to "Smartass" as well.
Thanks again to all of you.
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Or if you don't want to use SetCPU (since it's not free) there are any number of apps you can use to mess with CPU clock speed
ROM Toolbox
System Tuner
No Frills CPU
All of them are free, so try one of them out. I always use ROM Toolbox.
Smartass should work just fine. What kernel are you running right now? I would recommend the Mason G series version .15 RC3. You can download it from his blog. Be sure to get the G series and not the I series. G=gingerbread I=Ice Cream Sandwich
Aloha Mizzou-
You know, I do not remember what kernel is running, need to ask my wife that. With the ROM Toolbox Lite program, and setting the governor to Smartass, the phone went 2 days before freezing up in the morning when it first waking up! For us that is great but of course we want it not to freeze if possible. Will check up on that kernel question.
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Smartass should work just fine. What kernel are you running right now? I would recommend the Mason G series version .15 RC3. You can download it from his blog. Be sure to get the G series and not the I series. G=gingerbread I=Ice Cream Sandwich
I think if you're getting any freezes at all, then there is a problem. The only time i have seen any freezes on my phone were running early, early ICS builds (and I'm not even 100% sure this happened), I undervolted too much (which I don't think you are doing) or another time when I set my max to 384 MHz and turned on Wimax and Spotify, which basically brought my phone to its knees.
It has been awhile since you originally posted your issue, so can you clarify what you are running again? I read back through your posts and it sounds like MAYBE you are running CM 7.1 with Tiamat 3.3.7.
With this setup, you should honestly not be having any issues....from what I read, your recovery version is Amon RA 2.3 (good, the best recovery you can install), you wiped everything except your SD Card prior to flashing the ROM (also important) and you are still having issues. If I had to guess (and clearly, this is only a guess) your phone might not like the Tiamat 3.3.7 kernel that you are running. I would HIGHLY recommend the Mason G kernel version .15 RC3. Be sure to remember that prior to flashing a kernel in recovery, you MUST wipe both Cache and Dalvik Cache.
Once you do that, reboot your phone. In ROM Toolbox, I would leave your minimum at 245 MHZ, your Max at 998 MHz and your governor at Wheatley.
You should not have any freezes. I would like to get this figured out for you. If you still have issues, I would like for you to try out a different ROM altogether. We can cross that bridge when we come to it.
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Like Rxpert83 mentioned you folks helped me to flash my wife's phone with MikG (the newest version) and I flashed Anthrax kernel as well.
I found out from my wife that the "Smartass" setting I thought we changed too, was not and still using the Interactive governor setting. So, my wife changed it to Smartass today. Using the Rom Toolbox Lite app. Rxpert also told me about another app like SetCPU but free. I may try this other app out as well.
So, now we are watching to see especially in the morning when my wife gets the phone on her way to work if it freezes or not upon waking up. Other than this one thing, right now the phone is working very well for her.
I may still want to try another kernel but again, with the smartass setting in place will see if that helps out.
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I think if you're getting any freezes at all, then there is a problem. The only time i have seen any freezes on my phone were running early, early ICS builds (and I'm not even 100% sure this happened), I undervolted too much (which I don't think you are doing) or another time when I set my max to 384 MHz and turned on Wimax and Spotify, which basically brought my phone to its knees.
It has been awhile since you originally posted your issue, so can you clarify what you are running again? I read back through your posts and it sounds like MAYBE you are running CM 7.1 with Tiamat 3.3.7.
With this setup, you should honestly not be having any issues....from what I read, your recovery version is Amon RA 2.3 (good, the best recovery you can install), you wiped everything except your SD Card prior to flashing the ROM (also important) and you are still having issues. If I had to guess (and clearly, this is only a guess) your phone might not like the Tiamat 3.3.7 kernel that you are running. I would HIGHLY recommend the Mason G kernel version .15 RC3. Be sure to remember that prior to flashing a kernel in recovery, you MUST wipe both Cache and Dalvik Cache.
Once you do that, reboot your phone. In ROM Toolbox, I would leave your minimum at 245 MHZ, your Max at 998 MHz and your governor at Wheatley.
You should not have any freezes. I would like to get this figured out for you. If you still have issues, I would like for you to try out a different ROM altogether. We can cross that bridge when we come to it.
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Aloha MizzouBrent!
Like Rxpert83 mentioned you folks helped me to flash my wife's phone with MikG (the newest version) and I flashed Anthrax kernel as well
I found out from my wife that the "Smartass" setting I thought we changed too, was not and still using the Interactive governor setting. So, my wife changed it to Smartass today. Using the Rom Toolbox Lite app. Rxpert also told me about another app like SetCPU but free. I may try this other app out as well.
So, now we are watching to see especially in the morning when my wife gets the phone on her way to work if it freezes or not upon waking up. Other than this one thing, right now the phone is working very well for her.
I may still want to try another kernel but again, with the smartass setting in place will see if that helps out.
Mahalo!
The application I linked you via pm WAS the free version of setcpu. I wanted you to experience both setcpu and rom toolbox before making a decision on one or the other.
I am also very interested in this freezing. It shouldn't be happening with a sense rom but is quite common with aosp Roms if it's what I think it is.I may need to recommend new setcpu settingsfor you
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Well, the phone still seems to freeze. We have not had the time to really deal with it, usually it freezes in the morning when it is coming out of hibernation. And a couple of times if my wife leaves the phone for a while it will reboot.
So, I wanted to ask how to remove safely the rom toolbox app so that I can flash the free setcpu version that Rxpert sent me? I forgot if one needs to back everything up, wipe caches? Thank you as always, she loves this phone and wants to keep working with it so as to find the right combo for everything to work.
Mahalo!
PS: have not yet partitioned the memory card and so all the apps are not yet on a card. I remember you saying that if you bring the apps over you can save a lot of memory usage. So, not sure if this is interfering with her phone right now with the freezing screen.
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The application I linked you via pm WAS the free version of setcpu. I wanted you to experience both setcpu and rom toolbox before making a decision on one or the other.
I am also very interested in this freezing. It shouldn't be happening with a sense rom but is quite common with aosp Roms if it's what I think it is.I may need to recommend new setcpu settingsfor you
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In your travels here did you happen to get Titanium backup and Titanium Pro? They can be used to freeze apps to see if it will hurt anything and uninstall them if they don't. It can also be used to batch restore a number of apps after restoring roms and such.
Might be able to just go into menu/apps/settings and cruise over to it and uninstall it from there, as well
As long as you have been on that rom, probably wouldn't hurt to wipe your cache and Dalvik cache.
If you have a lot of stuff you treasure, you might ought to get that tb and make backups and even nand before you do, to be ultra safe that you don't lose anything in doing so!
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Aloha Rxpert83, BrentM, Ocnbrze and so forth,
Well, the phone still seems to freeze. We have not had the time to really deal with it, usually it freezes in the morning when it is coming out of hibernation. And a couple of times if my wife leaves the phone for a while it will reboot.
So, I wanted to ask how to remove safely the rom toolbox app so that I can flash the free setcpu version that Rxpert sent me? I forgot if one needs to back everything up, wipe caches? Thank you as always, she loves this phone and wants to keep working with it so as to find the right combo for everything to work.
Mahalo!
PS: have not yet partitioned the memory card and so all the apps are not yet on a card. I remember you saying that if you bring the apps over you can save a lot of memory usage. So, not sure if this is interfering with her phone right now with the freezing screen.
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In order to install the setCPU version that I sent you all you need to do is uninstall ROM toolbox and place that setCPU apk file on the SD card. Then you just use an app like ES file explorer on the phone to navigate to the app on your SD card and select it. It will ask you to install and you are good to go. You dont flash anything from recovery to wiping or backing up arent really needed. You can wipe caches in recovery as some maintenance though if you want to.
Then you run it, grant it superuser permissions, and I'd suggest setting it to 1113max and 245 min. I think we have you on a custom kernel as well and I would switch the governor to smartass
If that app solves your problems I'd suggest purchasing it from the market to get the latest updates and features (as well as supporting the dev who made it possible to try the free version).
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Aloha Folks-
My wife just said that there was quite an update that just tool place on her phone for the ROM toolbox app. Wonder if the update has patches/fixes that help with the system, and can alleviate the freezes? Just a thought.
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Aloha Rxpert83, BrentM, Ocnbrze and so forth,
Well, the phone still seems to freeze. We have not had the time to really deal with it, usually it freezes in the morning when it is coming out of hibernation. And a couple of times if my wife leaves the phone for a while it will reboot.
So, I wanted to ask how to remove safely the rom toolbox app so that I can flash the free setcpu version that Rxpert sent me? I forgot if one needs to back everything up, wipe caches? Thank you as always, she loves this phone and wants to keep working with it so as to find the right combo for everything to work.
Mahalo!
PS: have not yet partitioned the memory card and so all the apps are not yet on a card. I remember you saying that if you bring the apps over you can save a lot of memory usage. So, not sure if this is interfering with her phone right now with the freezing screen.
If you're still using MikG, i would recommend using the interactiveX governor and do not use any screen on/screen off profiles. Set the min at 384, max at 998.
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For some reason, on sense roms, I have to raise the min to 384 but aosp, 245 works perfect
Just another example of how every phones different. My EVO had no issues down at 128 on MikG or Tommy's Classic but couldn't go that low on AOSP without the screen wakeup issues.
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For some reason, on sense roms, I have to raise the min to 384 but aosp, 245 works perfect
Same here. I have it set to 384 for Energy ROM but 245 was what I had it set for Decks
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If you're still using MikG, i would recommend using the interactiveX governor and do not use any screen on/screen off profiles. Set the min at 384, max at 998.
I agree except I set the minimum at 245
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Aloha Folks!
back for more punishment! Part of this is my fault though as I did not follow through on everything. So, my wife's phone is freezing up a lot now and she cannot get the app to work for the free wifi. I heard there are some new ones out there as well, curious as to what you think.
Now, one thing I did not do and I think it needs to be done is putting Rxpert83's setCPU on this phone. I think you said your version is free, correct?
I am trying to understand the process for installing and uninstalling the setCPU and Room Toolbox because I thought I would have to be in another mode to flash-install the setCPU program but from Rxperts directions it sounds like using an App Es File Explorer that would locate the downloaded setCPU program and install it for me? Do I need to clear our the caches or anything else before I begin? So, look forward to the right procedure for cleaning this up and installing the new setCPU, then what settings you would use? And if there is anything else that may need to be addressed like the Kernel we are using, etc.. We currently have MikG on the phone.
Thank you folks as always for your help.
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In order to install the setCPU version that I sent you all you need to do is uninstall ROM toolbox and place that setCPU apk file on the SD card. Then you just use an app like ES file explorer on the phone to navigate to the app on your SD card and select it. It will ask you to install and you are good to go. You dont flash anything from recovery to wiping or backing up arent really needed. You can wipe caches in recovery as some maintenance though if you want to.
Then you run it, grant it superuser permissions, and I'd suggest setting it to 1113max and 245 min. I think we have you on a custom kernel as well and I would switch the governor to smartass
If that app solves your problems I'd suggest purchasing it from the market to get the latest updates and features (as well as supporting the dev who made it possible to try the free version).
Aloha Folks!
back for more punishment! Part of this is my fault though as I did not follow through on everything. So, my wife's phone is freezing up a lot now and she cannot get the app to work for the free wifi. I heard there are some new ones out there as well, curious as to what you think.
Have you tried to wipe cache and dalvik? Sometimes that clears up alot of wonky-ness
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Now, one thing I did not do and I think it needs to be done is putting Rxpert83's setCPU on this phone. I think you said your version is free, correct?
I am trying to understand the process for installing and uninstalling the setCPU and Room Toolbox because I thought I would have to be in another mode to flash-install the setCPU program but from Rxperts directions it sounds like using an App Es File Explorer that would locate the downloaded setCPU program and install it for me? Do I need to clear our the caches or anything else before I begin? So, look forward to the right procedure for cleaning this up and installing the new setCPU, then what settings you would use? And if there is anything else that may need to be addressed like the Kernel we are using, etc.. We currently have MikG on the phone.
Thank you folks as always for your help.
Mahalo!
Just curious, question for you and Rxpert, why not just use Rom Toolbox to make your kernel adjustments instead of SetCpu?
What kernel are you on?
Hello Mikestony- I was thinking about wiping the cache and dalvik cache first. If we do this, do we need to boot in that other mode and wipe these caches from that, I think you call it Hard booting? Or can you wipe those caches when the phone is on and in normal use mode?
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Hello Mikestony- I was thinking about wiping the cache and dalvik cache first. If we do this, do we need to boot in that other mode and wipe these caches from that, I think you call it Hard booting? Or can you wipe those caches when the phone is on and in normal use mode?
Mahalo!
I was briefly reading back thru your older posts there, sorry for the late reply.
You need to boot into recovery to wipe cache and dalvik. That's the best way to do it...there are apps that can do it for you, but, eh, recovery is the best way in my opinion
Are you still on the MikG3.11 rom?
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Aloha Mike-
I think MikG3.11 is the version still on her phone. She likes things easy and out of the box as the other folks mentioned months ago. So, they suggested MikG3. Feel free to let me know what you think, thoughts and advice for a ROM that is out of the box, ready to go.
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I was briefly reading back thru your older posts there, sorry for the late reply.
You need to boot into recovery to wipe cache and dalvik. That's the best way to do it...there are apps that can do it for you, but, eh, recovery is the best way in my opinion
Are you still on the MikG3.11 rom?
Aloha Mike-
I think MikG3.11 is the version still on her phone. She likes things easy and out of the box as the other folks mentioned months ago. So, they suggested MikG3. Feel free to let me know what you think, thoughts and advice for a ROM that is out of the box, ready to go.
Mahalo!
That was my first rom after rooting my phone! It was awesome and I had it so customized, it was hard to make the switch to my current rom Decks Reloaded.
I ran the anthrax kernel, then switched to ca1ne's kernel, then back to anthrax.
I think I ran the interactive-x governer with, um, can't remember the scheduler----deadline? noop? heh, it's been a while. I never really over/underclocked...Just 998 max, 245 min.
You should check out the list made by Ocnbrze here: {The List} Utilities/Apps/Roms/Kernels for the OG EVO
Chock full of roms/kernels etc...see the staff picks for suggested roms!
He did a fantastic job on it and continues to update it.
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Aloha Mike-
Thanks for all the resources, we will look at them and see if we can get the MikG to settle down. I know many here are using IC and JB Roms and such. She wants ease of use and reliability. Mahalo!
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That was my first rom after rooting my phone! It was awesome and I had it so customized, it was hard to make the switch to my current rom Decks Reloaded.
I ran the anthrax kernel, then switched to ca1ne's kernel, then back to anthrax.
I think I ran the interactive-x governer with, um, can't remember the scheduler----deadline? noop? heh, it's been a while. I never really over/underclocked...Just 998 max, 245 min.
You should check out the list made by Ocnbrze here: {The List} Utilities/Apps/Roms/Kernels for the OG EVO
Chock full of roms/kernels etc...see the staff picks for suggested roms!
He did a fantastic job on it and continues to update it.
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Aloha Rxpert83-
Good point and why my wife likes Mik G. So I will try to clean out the caches first. And I will try to get that free version of setCPU that mentioned months ago on her phone.
Just curious are there other Sprint based Rom's out there using the new IC or JB platforms? Are they stable?
Thanks as always.
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Mik g is based on the sprint rom, so it will look very similar to it. However, it has a lot of neat bells and whistles added.
One great thing about the sprint based ROMs ....everything works right "out of the box"
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Aloha Rxpert83-
Good point and why my wife likes Mik G. So I will try to clean out the caches first. And I will try to get that free version of setCPU that mentioned months ago on her phone.
Just curious are there other Sprint based Rom's out there using the new IC or JB platforms? Are they stable?
Thanks as always.
Mahalo!
no. all of the ICS and JB roms are aosp. which means they do not have HTC's sense overlay added to it. so a lot of things will be broken or not working. some are good but they will all have not front facing camera or 4g working. read the op if you want to try them.
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Aloha Rxpert83-
Good point and why my wife likes Mik G. So I will try to clean out the caches first. And I will try to get that free version of setCPU that mentioned months ago on her phone.
Just curious are there other Sprint based Rom's out there using the new IC or JB platforms? Are they stable?
After looking through a few jb roms over at xda, this seems to be the most progressed. Says camera works, mms is spotty here and there. Didn't see anything about 4g is borked? I'm sure it is. If I had a 4g rather than a 3d, it's definitely flash able material
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yeah i'm old school and like setcpu. i do not like apps that are one stop apps like rom toolbox. setcpu works for me and i do not see a reason to change it.
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After looking through a few jb roms over at xda, this seems to be the most progressed. Says camera works, mms is spotty here and there. Didn't see anything about 4g is borked? I'm sure it is. If I had a 4g rather than a 3d, it's definitely flash able material
I doubt they'd get 4g working on jb without it also working on ICS. Jb is a pretty small incremental update when you compare it to the GB-ICS upgrade.
Who knows though, I can't flash it either
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Imo Wimax isn't that big of a thing. Most people have wifi in their home anyway. Not to mention I've only been in a Wimax area once since having my 3d. Such a disappointment. 1.5mb down.... Pathetic almost what I get in 3g
I can live without Wimax... So bring on the jb goodies
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Heh, wait until you get a load of LTE. Routinely 10mbps down and I've had some times where I get over 30 mbps down. Blows my home wifi out of the water.
The wife's phone is freezing up a lot, then rebooting. Now during this period we had a family member pass away and we were away from the home, so I just did not have time to work on her phone.
Couple of things, the phone uses the following:
Kernel: Anthrax-CDMA-Sense 2.6.38.6
ROM Toolbox
So, I thought I would give this one more try before she gives up and says to me, just get me a new phone through Sprint and don't do anything to it.
Everyone here seems to like SetCPU. Earlier in the discussion there was a free version mentioned and the regular one for a fee. Well, I thought I should finally try SetCPU and wanted to ask you if this is the correct one:
It says it is $1.99. If this is the one, I am willing to try it.
So, what would be the correct procedure to get in on and running? Meaning do I first have to un-install ROM Toolbox or can SetCPU just be installed and take over? Does one need to wipe certain folders (Cache/Delvik Cache) and which ones?
Also, should we be trying a new kernel?
I also have to ready up again as to how to properly download files onto the card and from there flash it onto the system. I just want to do it as cleanly as possible so as to limit any glitches and/or problems.
Again, thank you all during this process. I hope I can stabilize this phone because I know it is a good phone that can do so much.
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yeah i'm old school and like setcpu. i do not like apps that are one stop apps like rom toolbox. setcpu works for me and i do not see a reason to change it.
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Hello daaboss!
If you like to use SetCpu there is no need to remove RomToolbox...just uncheck the "set at boot" box if it is checked.
I read back a little and her phone is on MikG with Anthrax Kernel?
I assume you have cleared cache and dalvik cache in recovery?
And if you want to run SetCpu, you need not wipe anything prior to installing the apk.
Have you tried a different kernel? Or a different rom?
What are you current governor and scheduler settings in ROM Toolbox?
And...Melekalikimaka to you too! (I assumed that means Merry Christmas)
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I have not purchased SetCPU yet, I hope the link I posted above is for the correct program, I am thinking $1.99 is worth it if it helps to stabilize her phone, especially from freezing up her her, then rebooting on its own.
I am curious about other Kernels besides the one she currently has, Anthrax.
I will have to check her phone to see what settings her governor and other items are set to.
Also, for ROM, what ones would you recommend?
Thanks again and yes, Melekalikimaka means Merry Christmas! Mahalo!
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Originally Posted by Mikestony
Hello daaboss!
If you like to use SetCpu there is no need to remove RomToolbox...just uncheck the "set at boot" box if it is checked.
I read back a little and her phone is on MikG with Anthrax Kernel?
I assume you have cleared cache and dalvik cache in recovery?
And if you want to run SetCpu, you need not wipe anything prior to installing the apk.
Have you tried a different kernel? Or a different rom?
What are you current governor and scheduler settings in ROM Toolbox?
And...Melekalikimaka to you too! (I assumed that means Merry Christmas)
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Good to see you again!
Mikg is a very stable Rom, but not all phones are equal, and some don't like certain roms or kernels. I know my dads phone rebooted sometimes on mikg as well.
We will look at the kernel first, because that's going to be the easiest to change.
Let us know what settings the kernel is using, such as the min, max, governor, and we can get back to you with suggestions or a new kernel to try
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Ok looking at Rom Toolbox Lite under CPU settings the Max is at 998MHz and the Min is at 245MHz.
The Governor is interactiveX and I/O Scheduler is bfq
And you know that we are using Anthrax as a kernel.
So, again, when we have a chance today, I hope to purchase the SetCPU but if you think with Rom Toolbox Lite we can reset the settings as well as to consider or work with the current kernel to stabilize things, that is great.
Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks again.
mahalo
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Originally Posted by Rxpert83
Good to see you again!
Mikg is a very stable Rom, but not all phones are equal, and some don't like certain roms or kernels. I know my dads phone rebooted sometimes on mikg as well.
We will look at the kernel first, because that's going to be the easiest to change.
Let us know what settings the kernel is using, such as the min, max, governor, and we can get back to you with suggestions or a new kernel to try
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well your settings seems to be ok. nothing that i see that makes your phone unstable as it is. have you tried what mikey suggest? wiping dalvik cache and cache. wiping them usually fixes most small issues.
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Is there a Ondemand governer with Anthrax? I dont remember. Along with deadline for scheduler?
Try different ones and see if her phone acts differently..
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