[ROM] Viper 4G 2.0.0 and beyond - Page 3

SamuraiBigEd · October 5th, 2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by InTheRough

OK I have it installed, I'm just trying to find the process or service that could be running. Do you know what it could be?

Not sure, I didn't delve to deep, just closed running apps but was still having the drain. I am guessing it was stuck checking location or syncing with its server.

argedion · October 6th, 2012, 08:22 PM

today i did a full install of v2.0.2 that I gave a little bit of brain damage to. Custom Ringtones work and so far so does everything else.

EarlyMon · October 6th, 2012, 10:29 PM

Have you seen the other CleanRom? By newboy I think?

I'm pondering a little brain salad surgery between its apps and this base...

argedion · October 7th, 2012, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

Have you seen the other CleanRom? By newboy I think?

I'm pondering a little brain salad surgery between its apps and this base...

no i haven't. that sounds like a fun project. pm me and I'll join in on it with you we'll see what we can create from them. that is if you want the extra set of hands

CriticalCritic · October 7th, 2012, 12:19 PM

So I'm looking at the changelog on this version, and I don't see anything that really jumps out at me as making a big difference. I haven't Lazy Panda's yet, and it seems necessary for this ROM (since I have been reading that there are issues otherwise). So I don't care to take the time, jump through the hoops, and subject my phone to the risk (though minor), if there's nothing really wonderful in the upgrade.

Maybe I'm missing something.... Can anyone tell me what the big deal is with 2.0.2 over 1.0.0?

argedion · October 7th, 2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CriticalCritic

So I'm looking at the changelog on this version, and I don't see anything that really jumps out at me as making a big difference. I haven't Lazy Panda's yet, and it seems necessary for this ROM (since I have been reading that there are issues otherwise). So I don't care to take the time, jump through the hoops, and subject my phone to the risk (though minor), if there's nothing really wonderful in the upgrade.

Maybe I'm missing something.... Can anyone tell me what the big deal is with 2.0.2 over 1.0.0?

yes it a difference of 1.0.2

ckholladay21 · October 7th, 2012, 02:12 PM

I flashed viper 4G 2.0.1 from 1.0 after doing a full wipe. Upon the setup I noticed that my people app took forever to load. Any app that pulled info from people also loaded slow. Sms, email, etc.
I did an ota to viper 4G 2.0.2 hoping that would fix it. It did not, and I even tried doing a full flash of 2.0.2 using twrp. Still no luck... Any advice?

argedion · October 7th, 2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ckholladay21

I flashed viper 4G 2.0.1 from 1.0 after doing a full wipe. Upon the setup I noticed that my people app took forever to load. Any app that pulled info from people also loaded slow. Sms, email, etc.
I did an ota to viper 4G 2.0.2 hoping that would fix it. It did not, and I even tried doing a full flash of 2.0.2 using twrp. Still no luck... Any advice?

try to wipe dalvic and cache and see if that helps if not see if it does it with another ROM. If it doesn't then try to do a full wipe x 3 and then install 2.0.2 see if it does it then

EarlyMon · October 7th, 2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CriticalCritic

So I'm looking at the changelog on this version, and I don't see anything that really jumps out at me as making a big difference. I haven't Lazy Panda's yet, and it seems necessary for this ROM (since I have been reading that there are issues otherwise). So I don't care to take the time, jump through the hoops, and subject my phone to the risk (though minor), if there's nothing really wonderful in the upgrade.

Maybe I'm missing something.... Can anyone tell me what the big deal is with 2.0.2 over 1.0.0?

This rev is far more responsive and hands down better on multitasking.

S-off isn't required, just fastboot flash the stock kernel boot.img first to avoid bootloops from a kernel / rom mismatch.

Ditto on the new radios, you really need those here.

The only downside is that you lose your Apple linkify fix, as do all roms on the new base.

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Originally Posted by ckholladay21

I flashed viper 4G 2.0.1 from 1.0 after doing a full wipe. Upon the setup I noticed that my people app took forever to load. Any app that pulled info from people also loaded slow. Sms, email, etc.
I did an ota to viper 4G 2.0.2 hoping that would fix it. It did not, and I even tried doing a full flash of 2.0.2 using twrp. Still no luck... Any advice?

Go into app management and clear data from People and any apps that feed it for you such as Facebook and Twitter.

Then re-sync everything.

There's talk at XDA that the lag is caused by fragmentation in the sql database for that stuff.

SamuraiBigEd · October 7th, 2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

The only downside is that you lose your Apple linkify fix, as do all roms on the new base.

Maybe the spiders from Mars can do something about that.

nullspace · October 7th, 2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

Go into app management and clear data from People and any apps that feed it for you such as Facebook and Twitter.

Then re-sync everything.

There's talk at XDA that the lag is caused by fragmentation in the sql database for that stuff.

They were still wondering why not everybody seemed to be affected by it though. The one person posted that the lag went away after clearing the data then restoring it back, but the lag came back...or something along those lines.

Do you notice any difference after de-Sensing?

EarlyMon · October 7th, 2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nullspace

They were still wondering why not everybody seemed to be affected by it though. The one person posted that the lag went away after clearing the data then restoring it back, but the lag came back...or something along those lines.

Do you notice any difference after de-Sensing?

Ah, figures. I haven't been over there today or since that last tidbit.

No changes to my rom or the tests I wanted to do, stuff came up on the site, and poof went my time, so I am still stock with Nova on top.

argedion · October 7th, 2012, 07:13 PM

from my perspective desensed is really just derosie its nova laucher or apex your choice or if you prefer ssLauncher

yes i did

there are still a ton of htc apps in the "Desensed" version of the ROM.

EarlyMon · October 7th, 2012, 07:22 PM

Guess I didn't post this here -

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon at XDA

I'm thinking of trying out the Sense-free version of this, but not sure.

Before jumping in - will things like Mail and People be replaced by AOSP equivalents, or will I need to prepare and line up various common apps such as those for replacements?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Vinchenzop at XDA

This is from the build.prop of what gets removed. And no, not replaced by aosp...just these deleted, and the choice of nova or apex in senses place. As you can see, most of the actual apps are there, just not the sense based, associated widget.

I_print(">>> Removing HTC Sense");
delete("/system/app/Htc3DRichNotesWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcAutoRotateWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcBackgroundDataWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcCalendarWidgets.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcClockWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcContactWidgets.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcDataRoamingWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcDataStripWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcFMRadioWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcFriendStreamWidget_3D.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcMailWidgets.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcMsgWidgets.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcPhotoWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcPowerStripWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcProfilesWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcScreenBrightnessWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcScreenTimeoutWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcSettingWidgets.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcStoreWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcSyncWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcTrendsWidget_3D.apk");
delete("/system/app/HtcTwitterWidget_3D.apk");
delete("/system/app/HTC_Widget_Locations.apk");
delete("/system/app/HTC_Widget_Navigate.apk");
delete("/system/app/HTC_Widget_Trip.apk");
delete("/system/app/HTC_Widget_Watch_3D.apk");
delete("/system/app/MyTaskWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/Rosie.apk");
delete("/system/app/StockWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/WeatherWidget.apk");

spdkilz02 · October 7th, 2012, 07:39 PM

Does anyone on here use the Handcent app for texting? Mine seems to lag a lot when trying to open it up.

argedion · October 7th, 2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spdkilz02

Does anyone on here use the Handcent app for texting? Mine seems to lag a lot when trying to open it up.

try EM's suggestion its sounds like its a people thing do any other apps seem laggy that use People? Facebook for instance? or it uses them what ever

SamuraiBigEd · October 7th, 2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by spdkilz02

Does anyone on here use the Handcent app for texting? Mine seems to lag a lot when trying to open it up.

I quit using Handcent with my 3D, I was having the same and other problems then.

I think I did briefly load it on the ElTevo but still noticed the problems and that was stock unrooted.

argedion · October 7th, 2012, 08:27 PM

I had lots of lag problems with it back then been using Go SMS ever since.

spdkilz02 · October 7th, 2012, 10:40 PM

Ok I dumped the handcent app and installed the go sms app. That one seems to be a lot better.

EarlyMon · October 7th, 2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by spdkilz02

Ok I dumped the handcent app and installed the go sms app. That one seems to be a lot better.

Fwiw, if you go menu, settings, Basic tab, running mode, normal, you'll find it doesn't babble at you to use their other services.

I use the ICS theme and then instead of its wallpaper, just black. Looks pretty sharp to me.

ckholladay21 · October 8th, 2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by argedion

try to wipe dalvic and cache and see if that helps if not see if it does it with another ROM. If it doesn't then try to do a full wipe x 3 and then install 2.0.2 see if it does it then

I tried wiping cache and dalvic, but it didn't do anything. After a full wipe and re-flash of the ROM things seem to be working fine.

Thanks!

windsorclarenc · October 8th, 2012, 10:22 AM

I've found a great solution for many things is to do a dirty flash. Clear cache and dalvik cache then flash the ROM over itself. This way you don't have to back everything up just to stay on the same ROM.

nullspace · October 9th, 2012, 01:57 AM

Is the Sprint hotspot unlocked in this ROM?

Granite1 · October 9th, 2012, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nullspace

Is the Sprint hotspot unlocked in this ROM?

I believe so, yup just tested, it fired right up.

On another note:

I've seen quite a few random reboots, mostly at night while the phone is asleep. Notice when I get up, up time is only a few hours. Might have to back everything up and flash the full Rom outright.

I like the OTA option for the ROM, but it goes agensed my better judgement.

nullspace · October 9th, 2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Granite1

I believe so, yup just tested, it fired right up.

On another note:

I've seen quite a few random reboots, mostly at night while the phone is asleep. Notice when I get up, up time is only a few hours. Might have to back everything up and flash the full Rom outright.

I like the OTA option for the ROM, but it goes agensed my better judgement.

Hmm, why aren't people using the hotspot when they are having trouble getting wifi tethering working?

Granite1 · October 14th, 2012, 07:31 PM

I've been having a lot of randon little bugs and glitches. Stock kernel BTW. Only optional install was Google Now.

I performed the usual dalvik and cache partition wipes, I also fixed permissions. PRL and data profile updates before wiping anything, no dice.

I downloaded the full version of 2.0.2 and I dirty flashed it. Bad idea, I know better. LOL

I had a dead phone in 6 hours, and location for my weather was showing indiana all day. Random force closures, etc. I full wiped and reflashed, going to see how it behaves tomorrow.

nullspace · November 4th, 2012, 01:37 PM

So I know this should go in the kernel's forum, but the traffic there seems to be light. Hoping I might get some help here.

I'm s-off on viper4g 2.0.2 and flashed the Anthrax kernel. I wiped cache and dalvik before flashing. After flashing Facebook kept stopping on me. I tried clearing Facebook's cache/data and rebooting and that seemed to stop the FCs, but now Facebook calendar can't sync. Any ideas?

Oh, btw what exactly does fixing permissions do?

Thanks!

EarlyMon · November 4th, 2012, 01:52 PM

Here's your best explanation for fixing permissions -

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stericson.permissionfix

Viperboy has posted a few patch files and hints to combat various fc and multitasking issues, don't know if you want to check for those.

There are a number of FB / Sense complaints that go away by removing and re-entering your FB credentials.

nullspace · November 4th, 2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

Here's your best explanation for fixing permissions -

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stericson.permissionfix

Viperboy has posted a few patch files and hints to combat various fc and multitasking issues, don't know if you want to check for those.

There are a number of FB / Sense complaints that go away by removing and re-entering your FB credentials.

Thanks for the info.

Tried signing out and back in to FB, but it still said sync is currently experiencing problems. Tried updating FB with the same results. Any other ideas? At least I'm not getting fcs, but annoying I can't get syncing to work.

EarlyMon · November 4th, 2012, 03:01 PM

Maybe nandroid and try just stock Viper4G - if the problem goes away, could be a race condition or something in the kernel or the kernel/rom combo.

Sorry - that's all I got - try diagnostics first.

CriticalCritic · November 4th, 2012, 07:15 PM

Glad to see some people posting in here again. I just signed on to see what was going on, i.e. to see if everyone had abandoned ship and moved on to a different ROM. I still haven't upgraded to the new Viper4G just because of all the possible issues that I have been reading about on here.

Any idea when this stuff is supposed to be updated or what better ROMs are available right now (with the same or better customizability options)?

SamuraiBigEd · November 4th, 2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CriticalCritic

Glad to see some people posting in here again. I just signed on to see what was going on, i.e. to see if everyone had abandoned ship and moved on to a different ROM. I still haven't upgraded to the new Viper4G just because of all the possible issues that I have been reading about on here.

Any idea when this stuff is supposed to be updated or what better ROMs are available right now (with the same or better customizability options)?

I'm still using it and loving it!

nobegging · November 4th, 2012, 09:23 PM

It's been a really good rom for me (tried fresh, then used mean for several months). I love all the customization options for this rom, just waiting for racun to be stable, my wife wants it, she s-on hboot 1.19.

EarlyMon · November 4th, 2012, 09:28 PM

The updates in general are done, but they are testing memory management adjustments. Each iteration takes several days to test.

People with different configurations report various results over time, such as lag creeping in to dialer for example. There is no single set of symptoms but they think it's in the memory management. And viperboy has shared various pieces for people to try, so it's not all a closed doors thing.

This is looking interesting from what I have read -

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/598943-rom-svn-superlte-r145-8-5-12-xda-developers.html

SamuraiBigEd · November 5th, 2012, 07:57 AM

Any word on linkify yet EM? I poked around over at XDA but didn't see anything new.

EarlyMon · November 5th, 2012, 09:49 AM

Supposed to be coming in the next update. That's all I've heard.

suprmallet · November 5th, 2012, 10:13 AM

I use it as my daily driver with nary a hitch. Still would like the lightning speed of CM10, though.

EarlyMon · November 9th, 2012, 01:31 PM

So, I asked viperboy and Vinchenzop, and Vin said that not everyone would want #Fapple so instead of putting it in an ota, he worked it out with...

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Originally Posted by steal25

#Fapple version 6 is up in the OP along with a zip compatible with viper4g ported by Vinchenzop. Enjoy!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1947686

Downloading mine now.

EarlyMon · November 9th, 2012, 10:53 PM

The HTC Mail app still isn't right - they're checking into it.

SamuraiBigEd · November 10th, 2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

The HTC Mail app still isn't right - they're checking into it.

What is the issue, mine seems to work fine.

EarlyMon · November 10th, 2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SamuraiBigEd

What is the issue, mine seems to work fine.

Here's a picture of the problem -

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33911144

EarlyMon · November 11th, 2012, 03:28 AM

I grabbed the Mail from the ViperX 2.6 (international) and it appears to work correctly!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33961098&postcount=117

SamuraiBigEd · November 11th, 2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

I grabbed the Mail from the ViperX 2.6 (international) and it appears to work correctly!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33961098&postcount=117

When doing this do I allow it to overwrite the existing mail.api?

EarlyMon · November 11th, 2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SamuraiBigEd

When doing this do I allow it to overwrite the existing mail.api?

O.o

Is that a swipo? Did you mean Mail.apk?

I froze mine by renaming it to Mail.apk.bak - because I hate doing nandroids when I don't have to rely on them.

Because of the name change, I had no overwrite conflict.

After all - I think I tested it all, but if I didn't, that way you can blow away the new one, rename Mail.apk.bak to just Mail.apk, clears both caches and reboot and Bob's your uncle.

SamuraiBigEd · November 11th, 2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

O.o

Is that a swipo? Did you mean Mail.apk?

I froze mine by renaming it to Mail.apk.bak - because I hate doing nandroids when I don't have to rely on them.

Because of the name change, I had no overwrite conflict.

After all - I think I tested it all, but if I didn't, that way you can blow away the new one, rename Mail.apk.bak to just Mail.apk, clears both caches and reboot and Bob's your uncle.

Yep, fat-fingered the keyboard. Thanks!

EarlyMon · November 12th, 2012, 10:36 AM

Ok, this replaces their Roboto Slim and just improved readability for me by about a zillion percent.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34014006

SamuraiBigEd · November 12th, 2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

Ok, this replaces their Roboto Slim and just improved readability for me by about a zillion percent.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34014006

You are, as always, Da' Man!

EarlyMon · November 12th, 2012, 03:42 PM

Looks pretty good now, doesn't it?

My eyes have been thanking me all day!

SamuraiBigEd · November 12th, 2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

Looks pretty good now, doesn't it?

My eyes have been thanking me all day!

It's nice not having to pull the readers out when I look at my screen!

EarlyMon · November 12th, 2012, 08:09 PM

Let's see if I can go 3 for 3

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon at XDA

On multitasking -

http://www.jeffmixon.com/examining-build-prop-tweaks-for-android-ics-a-comprehensive-guide-part-1/

I note that we're running the ICS defaults for vm.heapsize and growth limit, appropriate for a phone with 1 GB of ram.

But we have less than a gig, as I recall, the S4 is mapping ram for i/o ports and also for the gpu.

In any case, we're all used to seeing 680 MB of ram, far less than a 3vo.

So now, I've changed my /system/build.prop like so -

# For ICS project, default 32m/48m
# 128/64 originally below
dalvik.vm.heapsize=96m
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=40m

And I am seeing two things -

One, ram now reports as 770 MB.

Two, my phone is screaming fast.

This is all very preliminary. Try at your own risk, make a nandroid backup first.

I would like to hear from anyone with lag issues willing to try this.

I'll be trying everything I can think of to stress test and will report back.

PS - tip of the topper to Wes and his report about having to kill Chrome. When I think of browsers, I think about core leaks and garbage collection, that's what gave me the idea.

I figured we had less than 70% of 1 GB ram, so a sloppy approximation of that on 64 gave me 40, and that article said the next should be double or more, so 96 sounded fair enough to me. That's how I chose my numbers, if anyone cares.

Viperboy commented that he was getting ready to post similarly and encourages people to try this.