I bought the Evo for my personal use. However, I was looking at an FAQ this morning on my company's IT site on supporting Android devices thinking it might be a possibility. Currently personally funded Blackberry, iPhone and Windows mobile devices are supported for connection to our Microsoft Exchange email services.
I noticed the following in an FAQ in regards to Android support, is this true? I thought the Evo supports ActiveSync?
Question:
How can I access my corporate email on my Android device?
Answer:
At the moment, XYZ does not support Android due to its lack of ActiveSync support (access to Microsoft Exchange email). When/If this option becomes available, updates will be posted through the Mobile Device website.
Question:
When will Android be an option for users?
Answer:
XYZ has decided that we will not support the Android for corporate email at this time. If/When Android supports ActiveSync we will re-evaluate.
Question:
How about if I have a personally funded Android phone?
Answer:
Presently, corporate email access is not available for any Android devices due to its lack of ActiveSync support (access to Microsoft Exchange email).
I use my Evo, which has ActiveSync built right in. Not sure which version of Android is the first one with activesync, but 2.1 definitely does have it, and the company policy seems to be based on outdated information. I have also set up activesync on Droids and Moments, so it works as far back as 2.0. This is email, contacts, and calendar sync.
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I use my Evo, which has ActiveSync built right in. Not sure which version of Android is the first one with activesync, but 2.1 definitely does have it, and the company policy seems to be based on outdated information. I have also set up activesync on Droids and Moments, so it works as far back as 2.0. This is email, contacts, and calendar sync.
Thanks. I thought it might be outdated.
If anyone can help me draft a reply to my IT departmental in terms of Android's support of Exchange and ActiveSync (when it started supporting it and it's level of support) I'd appreciate it. Not sure if there are other technical details I need to include or not.
We are on Exchange Server 2003 and it works great with my EVO - and the EVO was way easier to setup than my old iPhone. I use calendar, mail, contacts, etc with absolutely no problems.
Actually, we are in the process of replacing some users BB's with Android phones so we don't have to pay the additional $20 BES fee. We would never think about this is if weren't for ActiveSync.
Well, yes, Activesync works on Android .. have it going on my EVO also. But its not a very good Activesync client. On my iPhone, if I deleted an email from the phone, it was deleted from Exchange/Outlook, and vice-versa. Reading one on my EVO marked it read in Exchange/Outlook. That does not happen with the default Activesync client on my EVO. And I tried another email client with better Exchange Activesync support, but then it only did one email account, Exchange, not yahoo or gmail or hotmail, etc.
Deleting works perfectly fine on my Evo. I just tested it. As soon as I deleted them message, it synced it to my desktop. The read notices have worked since it was set up.
I can also accept calendar invites, something someone said didn't work with ActiveSync in some other thread.
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I can delete too! I don't know how this stuff is setup but I can access my MS Exchange account on my Evo with no problem. I think it is the same settings are the eyePhone. I would try those and see if it works.
I have a commercial Exchange 2007 account with IT Solutions Now and I'm currently using Touchdown on my EVO as it supports more features than the native ActiveSync enabled email app. When I had my Samsung Moment, it came preloaded with Moxier Mail ActiveSync client.
I find that they are about equal, but Touchdown is slightly less expensive ($20 as opposed to $25). The only issue I have with either client is that they are not as tightly integrated with the Android address book as the Native app is.
just have them re-evaluate the android OS. should not be a need to draft anything. and have you just entered your credentials (along with server and domain info) in the android handset to test?
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Thanks. I thought it might be outdated.
If anyone can help me draft a reply to my IT departmental in terms of Android's support of Exchange and ActiveSync (when it started supporting it and it's level of support) I'd appreciate it. Not sure if there are other technical details I need to include or not.
Well, yes, Activesync works on Android .. have it going on my EVO also. But its not a very good Activesync client. On my iPhone, if I deleted an email from the phone, it was deleted from Exchange/Outlook, and vice-versa. Reading one on my EVO marked it read in Exchange/Outlook. That does not happen with the default Activesync client on my EVO. And I tried another email client with better Exchange Activesync support, but then it only did one email account, Exchange, not yahoo or gmail or hotmail, etc.
Just about all of this is incorrect. The Evo supports all of these functions out of the box and in fact, every Android device does that I've come into contact with (Moto Droid, Droid X, Samsung Moment, Evo, etc.). I am the IT Manager for my office and my emails do reconcile (to borrow the term from BlackBerry) and also updates read items. It even shows up in Outlook that you "replied to an email" if you did so on your Evo.
Now there is a valid reason why many IT departments do not allow Android devices and that is due to lack of security features, such as Remote Wipe and Security Policies. There are a few applications that do support these features, however (namely, Touchdown) and apparently FroYo will support these features natively.
I do not enforce security policies on devices that connect to my Exchange server, but that is because they are user-owned and not provided by the firm.
Really? Would love to know how that works. Been using the default email client with Activesync for 3 or 4 weeks now. Message do NOT get marked as read in Exchange when read on the EVO, nor deleted. I see no settings for that in the default email client, and the IT department has not made any changes to the Exchange server because I AM the IT department for my firm -- and this currently works for the 23 iphones connecting to our Exchange server.
I am in the IT department for my company. We are running Exchange 2007 SP1 and activesync (although not company endorsed) works fine on my EVO. Worked fine on my Eris I had temporarily as well. All reconciliations work, although may be delayed (5-10 minutes) but that could also because we use cached mode for Outlook.
Exchange 2003 here, rather than 2007. Would love it if this worked better. If someone has the solution, please let me know. Also, the Activesync client does not give me access to all the names in Exchange's global address list, only those contacts which are in contacts. A real drag when I want to send an email to one of the distribution lists in the global address list (and yes, the iPhone activesync client can see the global address list).
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I'm using a Small Business Server 2008 w/Exchange 2007 built-in at home and I have no problem syncing, marking messages as read or deleting using the default client on my EVO and no changes to Exchange. And most of the time, I get messages on my EVO before Outlook 2010 (Cached Mode).
Exchange 2003 here, rather than 2007. Would love it if this worked better. If someone has the solution, please let me know. Also, the Activesync client does not give me access to all the names in Exchange's global address list, only those contacts which are in contacts. A real drag when I want to send an email to one of the distribution lists in the global address list (and yes, the iPhone activesync client can see the global address list).
I wish I could answer your questions. I have Exchange 2007, SP2 and when I had Exchange 2003, I didn't have any Android devices connected to it.
In addition, are you sure that the iPhone can access your GAL? Because I'm pretty sure the ones I my network cannot. On my Windows Mobile phones you have to physically search for their names and you cannot do it on any of the BlackBerry's--and I even have a BlackBerry Server. I don't think it works on any of the iPhones connected to my server either, but I'll double check next time I get one in my hands.
One thing I do know is that when the iPhone first started supporting ActiveSync, it was not able to report the "you replied to this message on xxx" back to your Exchange mailbox, I can't say for sure if that is still the case or not.
We're using Exchange 2003 SP2 and everything works fine. There was some issues with 2.0 but 2.1 is fine. Deletes in either direction works, read/reply show up, blah. We didn't do anything special just standard setup.
just have them re-evaluate the android OS. should not be a need to draft anything. and have you just entered your credentials (along with server and domain info) in the android handset to test?
I'll ask them to re-evaluate Android.
I have not entered my credentials, figured it would not work as Android is not supported by my IT department. However maybe I could test it. Can you point me to where in Outlook running on my PC I could find the credentials, server, domain info and I could test to see if it works? Sorry, not sure what information I need from Outlook and where to find it.
using Exchange 2003 SP2 on the hero and now on the evo.
exchange works BEAUTIFULLY as it did/does on my touch pro2. messages reconcile, calendar, global company address book works.. everything works just like the desktop. in fact the evo picks up the email a few seconds before the computer acknowledges.
im at a crackberry heavy company with win mo second and android OS in the rear and all is working just peachy.
it sounds like your IT department does not have your account setup for complete access to their EAS... which is a issue with YOUR IT company and not the Android OS in general...
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Exchange 2003 here, rather than 2007. Would love it if this worked better. If someone has the solution, please let me know. Also, the Activesync client does not give me access to all the names in Exchange's global address list, only those contacts which are in contacts. A real drag when I want to send an email to one of the distribution lists in the global address list (and yes, the iPhone activesync client can see the global address list).
do you have an website address to see/read your company mail? if so that website address is probably your server address. the domain could be anything.
just ask someone who has a windows mobile device what the server and domain entries are.. then just add your username and password to the mix and select SSL security. you also may need a certificate pushed to your device to comply with your company's policies....
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I'll ask them to re-evaluate Android.
I have not entered my credentials, figured it would not work as Android is not supported by my IT department. However maybe I could test it. Can you point me to where in Outlook running on my PC I could find the credentials, server, domain info and I could test to see if it works? Sorry, not sure what information I need from Outlook and where to find it.
Don't bother asking them to re-evaluate android. Just create a list of info your Evo is requiring to set up an exchange activesync and ask your IT dept to provide it. Then just enter it into your phone and you will be all set:
Email address: this should be your work email address
Server address: something like mail.yourcompany.com but not always
Domain: find out from IT
username/password: typically your domain login credentials, or whatever you use to check your mail.
SSL required? yes or no. try both.
If you're resourceful, you might be able to guess the correct values.
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using Exchange 2003 SP2 on the hero and now on the evo.
exchange works BEAUTIFULLY as it did/does on my touch pro2. messages reconcile, calendar, global company address book works.. everything works just like the desktop. in fact the evo picks up the email a few seconds before the computer acknowledges.
im at a crackberry heavy company with win mo second and android OS in the rear and all is working just peachy.
it sounds like your IT department does not have your account setup for complete access to their EAS... which is a issue with YOUR IT company and not the Android OS in general...
NOT helpful. Does not explain why there is full integration to the dreaded iphones but with absolutely no changes made to the Exchange environment, not full integration to Android. If Android Exchange Activesync requires something other than what the iPhone requires at the Exchange end, I'd like to know it. Anyone? Bueller, Bueller?
Now there is a valid reason why many IT departments do not allow Android devices and that is due to lack of security features, such as Remote Wipe and Security Policies.
Exchange 2007 will do a remote wipe to an EVO with an enforced security policy (I tested that) but doesn't support recovery password for it.
The native Exchange ActiveSync on the EVO is not nearly as complete as my Windows Mobile 6 phone was, but it's adequate for me.
If I'm not mistaken, 2.1 does not support EAS security policies (password lock and remote wipe). However, these features are supported on the EVO because HTC added it as part of Sense (that's what I read somewhere). When I got my EVO on launch day, I resigned myself to not being able to connect to work until 2.2 - the verbiage from the op's corporate communication is virtually word for word as ours (wonder if we work for the same company!), but within a day or two of release, the EVO was cleared as an approved device. I do not believe any other non-HTC Android phones have been at our company due to the security policies not being supported.
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im pointing out to you sir/ ma'am that EAS the evo i use is on works just fine. full integration. i had it on the hero and now its on the evo.
Exchange is exchange... your IT sets up what ever policies they want to. they could just not allow android handsets on their network. have you spoken to them? we dont know what your IT policies/riles are on this forum, your IT dept. does. i have not read this entire thread ill admit but have you spoken to them? what was their official response to you using Android on their server??
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NOT helpful. Does not explain why there is full integration to the dreaded iphones but with absolutely no changes made to the Exchange environment, not full integration to Android. If Android Exchange Activesync requires something other than what the iPhone requires at the Exchange end, I'd like to know it. Anyone? Bueller, Bueller?
Well, yes, Activesync works on Android .. have it going on my EVO also. But its not a very good Activesync client. On my iPhone, if I deleted an email from the phone, it was deleted from Exchange/Outlook, and vice-versa. Reading one on my EVO marked it read in Exchange/Outlook. That does not happen with the default Activesync client on my EVO. And I tried another email client with better Exchange Activesync support, but then it only did one email account, Exchange, not yahoo or gmail or hotmail, etc.
do you mind telling us which other email client you tried out?
Exchange works on the EVO but it's buggy as hell.
It's forever randomly not syncing. You'll get a little sync circle with an exclimation point next to it in the notifications.
Yesterday I had an EVO that showed the exchange calendar but when you went to put a new appt in the calendar the exchange calendar wasn't an option.
Had to remove/readd the account.
Never had any of these problems with the pre.
That said just steal the exchange settings from someone elses's phone. It either works or it doesn't.
Worst case get the OWA url and used the web based version.
do you have an website address to see/read your company mail? if so that website address is probably your server address. the domain could be anything.
just ask someone who has a windows mobile device what the server and domain entries are.. then just add your username and password to the mix and select SSL security. you also may need a certificate pushed to your device to comply with your company's policies....
I was able to determine what I needed for server address, domain, username, etc. to try and add an Exchange ActiveSync account based on mobile phone instructions for supported devices. But after entering it I received an error about not having permission. Which is what I expected as authorization to use a personal phone to access Outlook needs to be requested and set up for any mobile phone user in my company. Specifically:
"Your Microsoft Exchange Server account does not have permission to synchronize with your current settings. Contact your Exchange Server administrator".
And since they currently don't support Android, I am out of luck until they do unfortunately.
And since they currently don't support Android, I am out of luck until they do unfortunately.
Well, not supporting Android is not the same thing as not allowing Android. If you have your phone all configured, and you just need them to throw a switch, they might do it. If your config doesn't work, then you're on your own. They won't support it.
That is typically what "not supporting" means. If they simply don't allow Android, they should change their wording.
Well, not supporting Android is not the same thing as not allowing Android. If you have your phone all configured, and you just need them to throw a switch, they might do it. If your config doesn't work, then you're on your own. They won't support it.
That is typically what "not supporting" means. If they simply don't allow Android, they should change their wording.
Won't support it or allow it until it is officially evaluated and approved. We need to formally request and receive access permission for access and at the moment based on their last evaluation of Android they aren't supporting/allowing it.
Really? Would love to know how that works. Been using the default email client with Activesync for 3 or 4 weeks now. Message do NOT get marked as read in Exchange when read on the EVO, nor deleted. I see no settings for that in the default email client, and the IT department has not made any changes to the Exchange server because I AM the IT department for my firm -- and this currently works for the 23 iphones connecting to our Exchange server.
If you have a secret, please let me know.
I don't know the secret, but I do know that the htc mail client on my Evo syncs the inbox just fine with Exchange, including marking mails read and allowing me to delete anywhere and reflecting that deletion. There are a few caveats:
If you read or delete a mail on your desktop, or on the Evo, that won't automatically trigger an update. The other client will be updated when you manually open it, or when a new email message comes in and triggers an update.
And it doesn't automatically sync folders other than the inbox. It will sync subfolders when you open them, however.
As someone mentioned, if your company supports OWA you can access your email through the browser. At least I can.
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The big issue for me is the difference between the company directory and local directory. On my business phone (win 6.5) I can select from either directory even for Text messages. With Droid I can't select from the company directory for Text messages.
Exchange will not sync unless I open the email client to force a sync. Settings are set to as items arrive. The calendar will not sync at all now too. I deleted the account and reinstalled and still having the same exchange problem. Using Exchange 2007. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!
Question:
How about if I have a personally funded Android phone?
Answer:
Presently, corporate email access is not available for any Android devices due to its lack of ActiveSync support (access to Microsoft Exchange email).
Really? I have had my personal Android phone(HTC Incredible) since May and have had it syncing with my company exchange server since the day I got it.
Syncing with Exchange 2003 SP2.
Try putting a mail. in front of your email address instead of the www and see if it comes up asking for log in credentials.
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The big issue for me is the difference between the company directory and local directory. On my business phone (win 6.5) I can select from either directory even for Text messages. With Droid I can't select from the company directory for Text messages.
Anyone have suggestions?
The built in Active Sync client does not support GAL (global address list). There are 3rd party apps like Touchdown that will allow you to access the GAL, but I believe it's a cached version.
You could always copy the contact from the GAL to your Outlook contacts with a right click, and that info will sync over automatically.
I have the same problem on my Motorola Droid with 2.2. It happens on Cyanogenmod 6 RC 2, Ultimate Droid 6.0.0 and the leaked version of the FRG22 from google/verizon.
I can connect to my exchange just fine and receive email if I set it to check every x minutes. But if I set it to push, my emails never show up.
I am running exchange 2003 with ssl disabled.
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Double-check your Sync settings:
Home -> Menu -> Settings -> Accounts & sync
Make sure Background data and Auto-sync are checked, the sync icon for Exchange ActiveSync is green. Tape on Exchange ActiveSync and make sure Sync calendar is checked (duke).
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exchange 2003 SP2. on my evo and hero before it i was and am still able to get global contact lists... on my touch pro 2 and pro1 i was also able to get global lists...
I messed around for an hour and got the Native ActiveSync working with my Exchange 2003 Server. Next I want to get the SSL enabled.
It took some reading and some trial and error. But seems to be working fine.
I can erase junk and its off the server just fine. Not using the Contacts or Calendar just yet. This is with the updated 2.2 software in my phone.
Since my company is small I am the IT guy. Its a matter of getting the
Exchange set up on the server to accept mobil devices. Then getting the RIGHT settings in the EVO. Mine worked when I did NOT enter the Domain
Name. Otherwise it failed. Incorrect Pasword or User Name.
The built in Active Sync client does not support GAL (global address list).
I wish they would update the Exchange Active Sync client. I hate to even use the word "iPhone," but the iPhone did this better. I could see all of the GAL on the iPhone, and wish my EVO did it better. Even the view of the folders was better. Loving Android, but hoping an updated EAS client comes out.
I checked all of the settings and everything is checked/correct. I could get my push email on android 2.1 with no problems, but it appears that 2.2 has a bug that needs fixed.
The built in Active Sync client does not support GAL (global address list). There are 3rd party apps like Touchdown that will allow you to access the GAL, but I believe it's a cached version.
You could always copy the contact from the GAL to your Outlook contacts with a right click, and that info will sync over automatically.
Hmm ... I'd beg to differ here ... I've actually got access to my corporate GAL ... Ah! But not through this native e-mail client - Through the contacts ... Interesting ... Hadn't noticed that ... I stand partially corrected ... :-(
This Activesync client is hinky (to use a technical word). No matter how many people post helpful things like "almost all of this is wrong," it is still happening.
I can read an Exchange email on my EVO while at my desk looking at Outlook, and the mail in Outlook is NEVER marked read. I can exit the mail on the EVO and go back in (settings say to update upon open) and still the email in Exchange is not marked read. If I finally get annoyed and hit "Menu, Refresh" THEN the email in Outlook gets marked as read.
The same thing does not happen if I delete. I can delete an email on the EVO and see it disappear from Outlook almost instantaneously. And what is up with no support for HTML email? Before the Froyo update I could find a setting for it, but the setting was grayed out and unselectable. Now I cannot find a setting for it at all.
I swear I am gonna have to bite the bullet and pay for Touchdown to get better Exchange support.
I posted this in another thread, but will add it here. Having issues with the Exchange Activesync also. I get email, but if I read the email, the email is not marked read in Outlook even if I wait hours. When I go back into the mail on the EVO, even though the settings say to refresh on open, the email is STILL not marked read in Outlook. If I force a refresh, the email is marked read immediately.
Same is not true, at least on my EVO, with deleting email. I delete an email on the EVO, it disappears from Outlook instantly.
Touchdown is a great app especially if you need HTML. i only get in house email and its all text so HTML is not a biggie for me.
i had the hero back in october and purchased touchdown then. it was a great app however it kept the hero awake all the time. i am sure it has made some major changes since then..
but to reiterate, all functions of Async work just fine on the evo i use. what i do on the evo is mirrored on the desktop and vice versa. global list, calendars... the entire kitchen sink...
one thing i DID do was once i did froyo, i did a factory reset and reinstalled my email clients... perhaps some of you who have done the froyo update should try this?
Despite claims that Android 2.1 does support Exchange/Activesync, I am unable to connect to my organization's Exchange server (Exchange 2010). I am unable to use iPhone 3G due to lack of hardware encryption (3GS supposedly would remedy for that). At any rate, I thus looked into Samsung's Galaxy Spica i5700 Android phone. There are some tight security restrictions at my organization. I am still unable to connect. I came across this post, which probably explains the problems, although I cannot be sure...
While Touchdown works, I find the user interface unacceptable and it is not well integrated into the Android user experience overall.
July 13, 2010
Android in business? Don't be fooled
The newest Android OS's claims over Exchange support obscure a key fact: It's not really there
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As Google and its carriers begin to make the Android 2.2 OS (aka Froyo) available to the slew of devices from Motorola, HTC, LG, and so on, one repeatedly trumpeted claim is that it has better Microsoft Exchange support, making it usable in many businesses that heretofore would have blocked it.
This support, Android fan boys say, mean that Google's mobile OS is finally ready to take on the iPhone and even BlackBerry in the corporate world.
No such luck.
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The sad truth is that Android 2.2, like its predecessors, supports only unsecured Exchange accounts, which pretty much rules out any business accounts. Froyo does add some nice features for users of unsecured Exchange, namely autodiscovery of Exchange settings and new APIs that let software developers create Android mobile management tools. But when you try to connect to a secured Exchange account, you get the message, "This server requires security features your phone does not support." It's better than the blank screen in previous versions of the Android OS, but you're still unable to use the phone for corporate email.
Now the devil in the details is that Froyo does support some Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) security policies, so you could relax your security permissions at the Exchange server -- but that risks not conforming to regulations or security standards your business established for presumably good reason. If you're able to lower your standards, the easiest way to let Android devices onto Exchange is to enable the "allow nonprovisioned devices" policy -- which really means "allow noncompliant devices," and not just Android ones.
Or you could spend $20 to get NitroDesk's TouchDown email client, which does support EAS policies. There's a free trial version so you can test it. The TouchDown client works, though it's separate from the rest of your email and doesn't let you navigate through your mail folders; you can see all messages or just inbox messages, but you can move messages into your folders.
(If you use IBM's Lotus Notes, TouchDown also works with version 8.5.1 of that email server, using the Notes Traveler capabilities. IBM promises to release a native Lotus Notes client for Android OS 2.x some time this year.)
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