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Old December 22nd, 2010, 08:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Cant get a Evo because your are not eligible for a Upgrade? Here is a solution for you!

I went to sprint today to see if I could get my wife a Evo but she wasn't eligible for a upgrade. He knew that I was trying to find a cheaper way to get the EVO without having to pay full price for it so he recommended to add a new line so I could get the 150 off the phone and cancel it at the 29th day! Once he cancels it, the evo would be transfered to her old number. Im planning to give her the EVO on Friday and letting her know that all calls made out of that phone will have a new number temporary. Im going to call customer service so that all calls made to her number will be forward to her new phone intill I cancel the new line.

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I saw this today as well:

Trade in your old cell phone and get an EVO 4G for $99 at The Shack | BGR | Boy Genius Report
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So they don't take the phone back if you cancel the line in that 30 day period? They don't even blacklist the esn? If this plan works without a hiccup please update. I would love to use this loophole in the future.
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So they don't take the phone back if you cancel the line in that 30 day period? They don't even blacklist the esn? If this plan works without a hiccup please update. I would love to use this loophole in the future.
They will not take the phone back and blacklist the esn! I spoke to the tech (the guy behind the glass) just to make sure this plan works! They only share this loophole to there friends so I consider myself lucky!
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Edit - Before you read the whole thing, where I broke it down Barney style for you...
I found the exact agreement.

http://www.sprint.com/landings/returns/

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If you cancel service within 30 days of activation, you are required to return your device and will no longer be eligible for any associated mail-in rebates.

If you do not return your device within 30 days of deactivation, you will be charged an Early Termination Fee of up to $200.
I highly don't recommend you do what he told you. You will get burned. You should print it all out, take it in and question him, then ask for his supervisor. If it really is a Sprint store like you said it was, maybe the sup can pull some strings. Make sure you use the words, misinformed, needs training, should not lie like that, was promised... and blah blah... Remember, you are very upset.

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Instead of body work, I think your brain needs work. Sprint is smarter than that.

You have 30 days to return and cancel the line risk free. Fine print...
Signing a new 2 year contract is what makes you eligible for the $150 off the price of the phone. Now... The way he was trying to get you was, if you cancel in the first 30 days... the phone must be returned to the dealer. It must go back to where you got it from.
If the phone is not returned, you will see a $200 etf.

Why do you think Wirefly and those other internet 3rd parties have double cancellation fees. Then you get 6 months to pay the etf to Sprint and any hidden fees from where you got it from.

So if you do what you were advised to do by some idiot Rep. You are just as stupid as he is...

You will end up paying the price of the phone in store. Which is usually $199.99 - $299.99, then after $200 etf + any fees from where you got it from and will not be eligible for any rebates.

Depending on how the store operates... it could be a affiliate market or directly through Sprint. Either way, they're not going to give you a phone and take a loss like that. They are going to get paid no matter what. You don't realize the fact, that Sprint / the dealer takes a small hit on the phone to gain your service. Because the end pay off / reoccurring bill put money in their pockets. For a dealer the initial sign up pays a commission chunk... this charge back period lasts up to 6 months. If you keep the phone less than 180 days, you'll see a etf + charge back fee at most places. Businesses are there to make money, not teach you how to scam a company and lose money themselves.

If you return the phone, then the 30 day risk free trial applies and it gets zeroed out. So doing it that way, you end up paying more than what the phone is to buy outright. Either buy the phone for $449.99 or buy one on eBay for $380ish... or try Craigslist.

Trying to cheat the system will get you nowhere this time.

You say they only tell friend's and consider yourself lucky? You never thought of this before on your own? What's the difference between the first day and the 29th day? Nothing. Why would he sell you a phone? One last thing, of course the phone does not get blacklisted... Why? Because in the end, you will pay for it, you pay for about half in the store or that amount is put on the bill... Then you pay the rest in the form of a etf. If not paid in 6 months, that shows up as a nice charge off / balance on your credit report. Cool story bro!

1. Rep sells you a phone.
2. Commission is applied to Rep's numbers...
3. You cancel...
4. Rep gets charged back that commision.
5. Rep gained nothing and you got stuck with a etf.
6. You fail.

I was lucky and got mine for $149.99 through retention / Account Services. But that's another story...
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^^^What he said. And besides the ETF fees, when you return or cancel within 30 days, you lose the mail in rebate.
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^^^What he said. And besides the ETF fees, when you return or cancel within 30 days, you lose the mail in rebate.
Haha, that's also in my canceling service and trying to screw Sprint Bible. Lol.
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Yikes that Buy back for Evo 4G is very rude.....135.00 but yet give like 270 for iPhone 4, way to support a foreign product more than your own....
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careful...last time a sprint rep suggested this to me it kinda sorta worked....

the good...i got an early upgrade by adding a line of service

the bad...i was told you can't cancel the new line's #, as the contract is tied to that number. so after 8 years with the same number I was stuck with a new phone number that turns out..is long distance for just about everyone in the dfw area. i did cancel the other phone and number...but it sucked
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I recommend getting a Google Voice phone #, make that your primary # you tell your friends, family, etc... That way in the future you can get a new line and never have to worry about giving them a new phone # each time.
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A friend of mine was able to upgrade before eligibility at the local radioshack. They had two lines, primary was eligible. Second would be eligible around June or July. They upgraded both phones while trading in their old ones so they both got $100 off. Primary paid $99 + tax, second paid $175 + tax. I was there when they got their phones & was surprised cause I thought he had to pay full price for the second line. But radioshack peeps were saying since he wasnt eligible for the upgrade, he will only get $75 off instead of $150. Didnt really make sense to me. $150 off + $100 for trade in + $99 out the pocket = $349. But arent Evos worth $499?
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There is no one this would work unless something illegal is happening. Sprint is smarter than this otherwise EVERYONE would have the newest phone every time it comes out.
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just buy a used one on Craigs List....There are plenty of them out there.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 12:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I recommend getting a Google Voice phone #, make that your primary # you tell your friends, family, etc... That way in the future you can get a new line and never have to worry about giving them a new phone # each time.
excellent idea for "today"

in my case the above happened 4 years ago

I don't think anyone really understands what it is the reps are offering to do. (including the OP)

You have a non-upgrade line
Add a line thus receiving upgrade
Cancel the non-upgrade line once that contract is up

As I mentioned above...you can't do an esn swap to the other phone number and cancel the new number because the contract is tied to that new phone number. The sales reps don't understand this nor do they care.

In the end you are paying the same regardless of how you do it. You will be carrying two lines individually or on a family plan for a month or more until you cancel the "non upgradeable" line when that contract is up OR just pay for the phone and move on.
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excellent idea for "today"


In the end you are paying the same regardless of how you do it. You will be carrying two lines individually or on a family plan for a month or more until you cancel the "non upgradeable" line when that contract is up OR just pay for the phone and move on.
Absolutely agree,

I think for most people it's an easier pill to swallow paying $10-$20 more for a few months vice paying whatever the full price will be for the phone they feel they must have now.

For me I almost went Palm Pre because it was the best phone Sprint had at that time. Then Android came out and I then I must have either the Hero or Moment, leaned towards the Moment because of the keyboard. When ready to get the Moment was told not eligible for the full discount. during my wait the EVO was announced. Let me tell I'm sure glad I waited, else I'd still be stuck with a Moment or Pre
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Absolutely agree,

I think for most people it's an easier pill to swallow paying $10-$20 more for a few months vice paying whatever the full price will be for the phone they feel they must have now.
except that now it's $50-60 more a month, plus the $10 premium data fee

I actually looked into adding a line for my son this Christmas...they no longer have (or know about) the $5 add a line that they did 4-5 years ago. The least expensive plan they had was the family plan for $129...plus $10 for each premium data phone

he's 9...he doesn't need a phone that bad lol. he just wanted the thing for games anyway. I will get him a nook color and root it lol
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LOL this provided a good laugh for today... some people just don't have full comprehension of the basics...
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I got hooked up the other day by dialing *2.... I Was eligable for an upgrade back in june as a premier customer under their 1 year upgrades.... However in december i was switched to another account and had not taken my upgrade yet. Anyways to make a long story shorter, i wasnt eligable for an upgrade anymore so i called complaining about how i wanted an iphone and i was going to cancel my line if they didnt give me an upgrade.... Well what do you know, account services charged me a 55$ early upgrade fee... And then Credited 129$ (My monthly charge) back onto my account... So i made out with about 80$ towards my new evo i got yesterday....
Thanks to whoever that lady was who did not want me to get an iphone (fake bluff anyways)
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A corporate rep needs to handle the request but you can "buy" an upgrade. They calculate a prorated amount based on your eligibility date.

Just did this for my wife who was jealous I was getting the evo
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Yup, thats how I got mine. I found an old sprint phone from about 6 years ago brough it to radioshack all that they wanted to see is the screen lite up for 3 seconds. Not bad 99.99 for Evo.......I was told new phones are comming out next month with 2.2GHZ processors........BTW I was told any phone from ATT, Tmoile, Verizon or preapid. ANY PHONE.......
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I have a radical idea. If you're not eligible for an upgrade and can't afford to pay full retail, DON'T GET THE EVO. Sometimes the answer is just plain NO.
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Hi rambo. Glad to see another BB convert...lol
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I have a radical idea. If you're not eligible for an upgrade and can't afford to pay full retail, DON'T GET THE EVO. Sometimes the answer is just plain NO.
I think it is less about affording and more about not paying more than you have to. Just my opinion.
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Sooo... Let me get this straight. You are not eligible for upgrade, because you have recently purchased another device vs the one you want NOW. And you willingly signed a legal CONTRACT stating you were happy with the device you have now, for the next 22 month/1 year depending on if you are Premire or not. <read, have a good billing history, as in, you PAY YOUR BILL ON TIME> And now you try to cheat the system? Hmmm..

So, company X.. I just purchased your latest and greatest X product, at a heavily discounted rate, and signed a contract for X years, which will take you over X time period to recover your subscriber aquisition cost for me to become a profitible customer. Now I want to purchase product X from you, at an added discounted rate, and cancel during the trial period. I get to keep this product, right?

Wake up man/woman. I mean, really????????
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If the guy can get away with doing it more power to him. We all have/will try to get over. If there is some sort of loophole that will get him what he wants (legally) than go for it.
If there is someone who hasn't tried to find one (loophole) for something in their life they're lying.
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Wireless carriers aren't stupid. But, they rely heavily on the stupidity of the consumer. If it sounds too good to be true, is usually is. As for the person who said they're coming out with a 2.2GhZ processors next month, link please.

I haven't purchased my EVO yet but I appreciate threads like these where I can find the best deal on a new EVO.
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What I did....
Activated a new line of service.
Purchased the Evo for $150...
A few days later, moved the Evo to my previous number, Hero from that number
to new line...
Before the 30 day customer sat. window was up. cancelled the new line. turned
in my old hero attatched to that line now...
Now I love my Evo....


"A Sprint store Sales rep advised me of this method..."
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