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Old May 14th, 2010, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Since I am terrible with PaintShop/Gimp and all the image editing nonsense I had a buddy from work slap up a render of one. It looks great. I have the 3M Carbon Fiber Vinyl and as soon as I get the Evo I will put it together to make a beautiful device even nicer. It is not the flat CF it is the textured kind.


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looks sharp, I like
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this looks cool. how would you apply something like that to the back, though? please educate
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Heat and an exacto knife, its really simple, a guy on precentral.net did it with his Pre. I saw it and bought some, and decided to wait to apply it on my EVO in June. The 4"x8" sample is $8 with free shipping on this website 3M Di-NOC Carbon Fiber Vinyl : Carbon Fiber Gear
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Heat and an exacto knife, its really simple, a guy on precentral.net did it with his Pre. I saw it and bought some, and decided to wait to apply it on my EVO in June. The 4"x8" sample is $8 with free shipping on this website 3M Di-NOC Carbon Fiber Vinyl : Carbon Fiber Gear
oh sweet!
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How would you do the speaker holes, thumb tack?
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Just found the PreCentral.net thread

Custom Carbon battery door - PreCentral Forums

Looks like a super sweet and simple mod idea. Thanks a ton!

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Interesting... 3M has a number of different materials that you can use:

3M US: Graphic Solutions: DI-NOC? Architectural Finishes: Product Gallery
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Why not get it custom molded out of CF? LOL

On a serious note, great idea, I hope you won't mind if I borrow your idea.
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Why not get it custom molded out of CF? LOL

On a serious note, great idea, I hope you won't mind if I borrow your idea.
Actually, I'd be careful about using real CF. My friend who has an iPhone got an authentic CF back cover and when he has it on, the CF (for whatever reason) messes with his signal. As soon as he takes it off, the signal is fine. It's really strange.
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Really?! LOL Damn carbon...
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I want a back made from a Faraday cage, would that work?
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Yeah, I'm completely serious. He even showed me and we kept scratching our heads wondering why the hell it would block any signal.

He ended up buying the plastic carbon fiber looking case and it worked fine. As nice as his dry-carbon case looked (especially cuz it was authentic), it was really a strange phenomena to see it f' up a cell signal.

To go further, we were even taking into consideration cars that have lots of carbon fiber, including the frame (e.g. Mitsu EVO, Mclaren SLR, etc...) and wondering how that wouldn't mess up signal if a little case could.
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the idea is open source I'll post real pics in june.
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For $8, I'm going to order the sample sheet for myself and attempt to do this. A few of my friends do Carbon Fiber overlaying for car parts as a business/career and make good money out of it.

I personally have never tried it, but I guess this is a good thing to give it a try on.
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Looks pretty sharp!
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Looks great. Neat idea.
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CF looks hot - i doubt anyone would mass produce a dry-CF replacement for the back but vinyl can work/look as good if done right.
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CF looks hot - i doubt anyone would mass produce a dry-CF replacement for the back but vinyl can work/look as good if done right.
I may try to get an extra back cover for the phone at some point and see if I can wrap it. I'll post results if I try it out.
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Maybe look into hydro dipping if you want something truely different. Carbon fiber look, skulls, currency, pretty cool stuff. This guy does a lot of automotive stuff on another site that I belong to. The only downfall is your without the back of the case for awhile. If the battery door can be purchased reasonably, I think I'm going to go for it with a skull pattern.

These can also be layered and different base colors used. So you can have the skulls on a blue background or whatever. In the one pic you can see he did flames over the carbon print. If you live in the right areas, you maybe able to find someone that does this stuff locally.









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Wow that looks really cool.
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OK...I ordered it. When I can buy an extra back, I'm going to try this too. CF on the back and maybe a Phantom Skinz on the front is a cool way to protect the new investment!
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That looks great! Thanks for posting about this 3M stuff!
I can think of a lot of things I might want to slap some 3M carbon fiber on! lol
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Since I am terrible with PaintShop/Gimp and all the image editing nonsense I had a buddy from work slap up a render of one. It looks great. I have the 3M Carbon Fiber Vinyl and as soon as I get the Evo I will put it together to make a beautiful device even nicer. It is not the flat CF it is the textured kind.
So would you make more and sell them? I'd be interested in buying it.
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So would you make more and sell them? I'd be interested in buying it.
Its apparently super easy to do, I will do one and work out the kinks and then try and make a simple walkthrough guide/video to make it easier for everyone looking to do the same.

I dont think I can honestly charge people and make a profit on putting a "sticker" on the back of a phone. I dont think I will have the time to handle tons of requests for them either.
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That's a great idea, and just use an Invisible Shield or something to cut the shape of it. Smartt.
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That's a great idea, and just use an Invisible Shield or something to cut the shape of it. Smartt.
You don't even need to do that.

Watch this how-to video. It shows them doing an install on a light switch plate. Doing the back of a cell phone will be very similar, but just require extra trimming on the edges.

YouTube - Guide for installing 3M carbon fiber DI-NOC on a lightswitch plate from CarbonFiberFilm.com

Seriously, this isn't rocket-science. You can do it yourself with an razor blade and hair dryer.
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That would be awesome, thanks for the info. Great idea!!
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You don't even need to do that.

Watch this how-to video. It shows them doing an install on a light switch plate. Doing the back of a cell phone will be very similar, but just require extra trimming on the edges.

YouTube - Guide for installing 3M carbon fiber DI-NOC on a lightswitch plate from CarbonFiberFilm.com

Seriously, this isn't rocket-science. You can do it yourself with an razor blade and hair dryer.
I might wait a little 'bit, but for those of you that want to try it right away, it's only $8 (free shipping) to have a 4X8 sample sent to you. That's a perfect size for the battery cover. I may wait a little, just to get an "extra" battery cover to experiment on.
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I want this finish on mine...

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Well I just ordered 2 sample sheets, one graphite and one black. I'll tackle this project later this week, depending on when everything shows up. Will try and document it step by step, but seriously, watch the lightplate demo... it's seriously stupid easy!
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Well I just ordered 2 sample sheets, one graphite and one black. I'll tackle this project later this week, depending on when everything shows up. Will try and document it step by step, but seriously, watch the lightplate demo... it's seriously stupid easy!
Oh, yeah. I've done vinyl cf wrapping before on car stuff. I just want an extra cover, in case something goes wrong with the phone and I need to have it replaced.
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I just want an extra cover, in case something goes wrong with the phone and I need to have it replaced.
Good luck. I called HTC about getting one, and it doesn't look like they sell them. We'll have to wait for an aftermarket one (if one ever comes at all).
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Good luck. I called HTC about getting one, and it doesn't look like they sell them. We'll have to wait for an aftermarket one (if one ever comes at all).
After a month or two, Sprint will possibly have backups. I've gone to the Sprint store and gotten backup covers in the past because the clips broke off or something to that extent. Got 7 different ones for my mogul. 3 different ones for my Touch Pro.
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After a month or two, Sprint will possibly have backups. I've gone to the Sprint store and gotten backup covers in the past because the clips broke off or something to that extent. Got 7 different ones for my mogul. 3 different ones for my Touch Pro.
Nice. Good news. I was worried after a couple people posted that they thought the covers were pretty thin...
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Well I just ordered 2 sample sheets, one graphite and one black. I'll tackle this project later this week, depending on when everything shows up. Will try and document it step by step, but seriously, watch the lightplate demo... it's seriously stupid easy!
Looking forward to seeing how it comes out. Seems like the speaker holes may present a bit of a challenge.
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Looking forward to seeing how it comes out. Seems like the speaker holes may present a bit of a challenge.
Once the backing sticker is on, I'll use a safety pin or a pointy dental tool to "pop" those holes.
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Looking forward to seeing how it comes out. Seems like the speaker holes may present a bit of a challenge.
Shouldn't be. On the light switch video, you can see that they have to poke through the vinyl for the screw holes. Shouldn't be too difficult to do with the speaker holes. Worst case, you can always cut a circle out for the speaker.
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I love the cf look and that light switch demo looks relatively simple. A major thing to consider, however, is that they were able to wrap the excess film around the edges. Then, the simple act of mounting the plate effectively prevents the film from lifting. On our EVOs, I suspect we son't be able to wrap the film like that. The cut edge will be exposed and may, over time, lift and accumulate dust and lint. I could be wrong, but I don't see it staying attached and clean-looking for very long. The simple act of handling the phone and slipping it in and out of your pocket (if you're a pocket guy like me, that is) will be the ultimate test.

Don't get me wrong, I'll probably end up trying this myself with some vinyl scraps I have laying around, but I won't buy any cf stock until I have a better idea of how well it holds up. BTW, most sign shops will gladly give you scraps if you want to do the same. That's how I got my stash.

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I love the cf look and that light switch demo looks relatively simple. A major thing to consider, however, is that they were able to wrap the excess film around the edges. Then, the simple act of mounting the plate effectively prevents the film from lifting. On our EVOs, I suspect we son't be able to wrap the film like that. The cut edge will be exposed and may, over time, lift and accumulate dust and lint. I could be wrong, but I don't see it staying attached and clean-looking for very long. The simple act of handling the phone and slipping it in and out of your pocket (if you're a pocket guy like me, that is) will be the ultimate test.

Don't get me wrong, I'll probably end up trying this myself with some vinyl scraps I have laying around, but I won't buy any cf stock until I have a better idea of how well it holds up. BTW, most sign shops will gladly give you scraps if you want to do the same. That's how I got my stash.

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Yup, and I wholy agree that that is a legitimate concern.

Remember that the guy who originally did it on his Pre, also had to trim like we will. As far as I know, he has not had any issues, so I don't see why we necessarily will.
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I just ordered my sample. This will look cool on the back. It's a 4X8 inch sheet. Plenty for a one time shot at getting it on correctly.
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This seems to look pretty good as far as customization for uniqueness

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I'd much rather have a polished steel backing.
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I don't think peeling will be much of an issue. People are using this on car hoods, roofs, and trunks. If it will stay on while driving, washing and such, I'm sure it will hold up on a phone. Also consider, screen protectors. They stay on while holding up to the same use with just static cling, or mild adhesive.
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It's a 3M product. It'll stick.
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I ordered mine yesterday. They say to use low heat to form it around corners. Ill have to use a razor knife for the cutouts...carefully. I think it'll look good. Well see.

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Found Di-Noc on ebay pretty cheap, and some with free shipping.
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Once we all get our stuff, we'll have to post up pics in this thread.
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I just wish I had my EVO, Ive had the Di-Noc for about 2 weeks, just waiting for next friday to come. It cant come soon enough.
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