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Old June 7th, 2010, 09:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok hypothetical situation


OOps I dropped my phone into the ocean while on a boat this summer


It is fried

What program should be used to "Fully" backup said EVO in order to just buy a new one and get it back running just like it was with all apps, AND data, SMS messages, etc before said incident

Since i have a mac i am thinking something similar to Time Machine


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I'm in the process of using MyBackupPro right now. Does apps and data, and backs up to sd card and online. Costs $4.95, and so far the only app I've purchased.
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hmm ill have to look into that


does anyone know if it matters what OS you have? Like i have a nexus one and evo

if i back up my evo can i nuke my nexus and "restore" it with the evo data to have identical apps / data?


i was reading about missing sync for android as i had it for my palm centro but its 40 bucks and i refuse to purchase it unless it does what i need it to do haha

the mybackuppro sounds promising though
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Well all your contacts and calendar and email should be synced with google, so you're good there. There are a few free programs to backup messages. AppBrain will backup apps, well not all the data with the apps, but it will at least let you know what apps you had installed. I have yet to find a program to backup settings.
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seems thats something android needs

1 program to backup EVERYTHING

not 3-4 doing different things lol


cuz when you break your phone you just want to get up and running asap not screw around with "which program did my sms" or "which program has my apps" and "oh i need to reinstall all my apps now?" "ugh"

and "what position were all my apps on home screen etc"

hmmm
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I'm in the process of using MyBackupPro right now. Does apps and data, and backs up to sd card and online. Costs $4.95, and so far the only app I've purchased.
what a cool little program. Have you used it before? Does it work well?
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I'm in the process of using MyBackupPro right now. Does apps and data, and backs up to sd card and online. Costs $4.95, and so far the only app I've purchased.
This is the best out there AFAIK. It also backs up your home screen customizations.
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Sounds like MyBackupPro is the only OTA backup app.. I would like something similar to the Palm backup program.. Very easy to use - backed up everything, including apps.
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I'd like to be able to back everything up my computer...
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MyBackup Pro like Titanium Backup requires ROOT in order to backup Apps. They need to state that on their app as Titanium does.
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OK I've done a bit of research in the last few days as I also came from Palm OS and loved my Resco backup software (Fully automated backup of everything in the phone, except bluetooth settings).

So.. facts as I've found them (Feel free to correct me and site source/app):
1) NOTHING will backup android today like the old Palm OS. That means even with the best backup software out there will require the user to do some re-engineering should they wipe/restore a phone.
2) Most of the better backups require ROOT access since many of the SYSTEM settings are protected. Root Grants that ability to backup the system settings. Contacts, App APKs (install files), and other basic data do not require root.
3) No app out there today can backup every apps settings!!! (This is my biggest concern). Some of them, like MyBackupPro have worked with developers to allow the backup software to get to the settings, but the vast majority of apps out there have no such partnership. Those that do often partner with one of the backup solutions and not all... so it's really not that useful just yet.

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"FAQ 4) Can MyBackup backup the data specific to my other applications?

We can not get the applications data because of security built into Android. But we have provided developers the ability to integrate with us and some are beginning to do this. If you would like any application to have the ability to be backed up by MyBackup Pro, you may want to contact the developers of such applications and have them contact us for instructions on how to integrate with us."
So what does this all mean... basically we are somewhat out of luck at the moment.

My personal preference currently is as follows:
1) Allow Gmail to backup Contacts normally as part of it's Sync
2) Use AppBrain to remember which apps I've installed to allow for easy replacement.
3) Use ASTROFile Manager to provide backup of the APKs to the SD card in case I cannot get to Appbrain for some reason (I don't like cloud backup solutions personally)

That's it... I figure for now, if I'm going to have to go in for each app and re-do settings, then it's really not much extra work to change phone settings.

I also contacted Resco software, the people who made RescoBackup for Palm, and they replied saying they were working on some Android Apps but had no release dates nor further information at this time. (*Crossing my fingers for an early Xmas gift*)

Anyway if anyone finds out any further info, please share it... and if you 'claim' that your backup works for app settings, please wipe your phone and restore it first, before posting without testing.. I've gone through a lot of headache buying/refunding apps based on peoples unfounded posts.
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what a cool little program. Have you used it before? Does it work well?
I tried out the restore and it got everything right on my scene customizations except one home screen widget. It marked the spot though so i just had to really it. It also picked back up my sms texts completely. With Froyo just around the corner, it was $5 worth spent! Beware though, the trial wouldn't function for some reason, and others have noted that in comments.

One final point to note: as the Market knows what apps you've installed, I did not attempt app restore. Only Titanium can catch all settings, but you have to be rooted.
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One final point to note: as the Market knows what apps you've installed, I did not attempt app restore. Only Titanium can catch all settings, but you have to be rooted.
Hmm I hadn't seen Titanium before according to it's webpage and a tech review from January it looks like it might just be what I'm looking for:

The Most Essential App For Android – Titanium Backup | Tech N Life

Now the question is whether or not it'll work on the Evo via the "Unrevoked" root method.
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Hmm I hadn't seen Titanium before according to it's webpage and a tech review from January it looks like it might just be what I'm looking for:

The Most Essential App For Android Titanium Backup | Tech N Life

Now the question is whether or not it'll work on the Evo via the "Unrevoked" root method.
I tried "Unrevoked" the other night, along with the recommended WiFi tethering app. I then attempted to take a picture of something later on, and noticed my camera was broke, i.e. I'd click on it and the app would start to open and then immediately close. The only thing I had done prior was install the "Unrevoked", so check things out after you install it. No biggie though, as a factory reset cleaned it back up. The sweet thing about Android, versus WinMo which I just came from, is how quickly I can fully restore, even without a backup program. Sweet!
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I might have to check out mybackup pro, gotta say this is a feature I really miss from my iPhone. I could nuke it as many times as I wanted and just by syncing with iTunes everything was back as normal.
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ok, here's my question regarding my backup pro (and flashing) for those who have experience. i'm currently rooted using toast's method on the stock pre OTA SD fix update rom. i'd like to flash to the post OTA SD fix update stock rom (.6). . . if i just flashed to the .6 stock rom am i correct that i would lose all of my home screen settings (i believe i would since i'm flashing a rom)?

if my assumption is correct, what do you recommend as the best step by step upgrade procedure (apps/money not being an issue. . . just want the best way) in order to load the updated stock rom and then restore my personalized settings (power management, home screens layout, application data and the like).

is that possible?

thanks for the guidance!
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Hmm I hadn't seen Titanium before according to it's webpage and a tech review from January it looks like it might just be what I'm looking for:

The Most Essential App For Android Titanium Backup | Tech N Life

Now the question is whether or not it'll work on the Evo via the "Unrevoked" root method.

It works via Unrevoked root method.
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Coming from the BlackBerry world, I truly miss the backup functionailty it provided. It would create one file that I could easily use to restore. After restoring, everything looks as it was before. SMS, programs, even icon layout.
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It works via Unrevoked root method.
Nice, I tried it yesterday using the Free version of Titanium, and it does indeed 'seem' to back everything up.

So the million dollar question is.. who wants to wipe their phone and try a RESTORE and post the results
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So the million dollar question is.. who wants to wipe their phone and try a RESTORE and post the results
I'll try it. I'd rather find out now that it doesn't work than later

Not such a problem if it fails since I can get my contacts back anytime. I'm not that worried about apps yet...I dove right in and can do some things better this time around.

No time for it till maybe tonight, but when I get to it I will report back.
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I'll try it. I'd rather find out now that it doesn't work than later

Not such a problem if it fails since I can get my contacts back anytime. I'm not that worried about apps yet...I dove right in and can do some things better this time around.

No time for it till maybe tonight, but when I get to it I will report back.
Thanks for the offer! I've customized mine too much already (I should have tested it before I did).

One thing to keep in mind.. see if you can go install a few free apps that have settings that normally wouldn't be backed up, like say an RSS reader (I use Newroom Trial myself), perhaps even an alternate home theme.
If you're only running stock with no extra apps, we might not notice if app settings are really being restored (which is the kinda the point in my opinion

Thanks again, post yer results whenever your able.
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root and do a nandroid backup, then save the file to your pc.
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MyBackup Pro like Titanium Backup requires ROOT in order to backup Apps. They need to state that on their app as Titanium does.
So if i do NOT want to root my phone, will MyBackUp Pro back up my settings and apps?
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Don't forget that the Android Market allows a full refund within 24 hours of a purchase, if you find the app you bought doesn't work for you.
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I just rooted using toast's method, and I had done a full Titanium backup using the free app. After flashing new rom (went with the stock .6 rooted rom for now), I restored using Titanium. Since I had not paid, I was prompted as it installed each app, and after completing, my apps and settings were restored, but not my home screen (wait, keep reading). I started to configure my home screen, then did a reboot when I realized that the Navigation app was missing (I remembered that Maps installs that on reboot). After reboot, my home screens were back except for a couple widgets that showed errors. It might have missed some sync settings that I've since updated, but it was pretty complete. I'm getting the paid version now to avoid having to click on each app on restore. Lesson learned: reboot after restoring

Notes: I was upgrading from stock .6 to rooted stock .6, so I can't say that it would work as seamlessly if you were flashing a custom rom. I'll try that soon, but not today.
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I just rooted using toast's method, and I had done a full Titanium backup using the free app. After flashing new rom (went with the stock .6 rooted rom for now), I restored using Titanium. Since I had not paid, I was prompted as it installed each app, and after completing, my apps and settings were restored, but not my home screen (wait, keep reading). I started to configure my home screen, then did a reboot when I realized that the Navigation app was missing (I remembered that Maps installs that on reboot). After reboot, my home screens were back except for a couple widgets that showed errors. It might have missed some sync settings that I've since updated, but it was pretty complete. I'm getting the paid version now to avoid having to click on each app on restore. Lesson learned: reboot after restoring

Notes: I was upgrading from stock .6 to rooted stock .6, so I can't say that it would work as seamlessly if you were flashing a custom rom. I'll try that soon, but not today.
I've read that widgets will not show up if there is a newer update that wasn't installed and backed up prior to the restore. An example is the Qik app. Some on another forum report that this widget did not show up on restore. Come to find out, Quik has been updated since the EVO release, which caused the widget to be missing. A simple update of the app should bring the widget back.
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I might have to check out mybackup pro, gotta say this is a feature I really miss from my iPhone. I could nuke it as many times as I wanted and just by syncing with iTunes everything was back as normal.
Something I just noticed on MyBackup Pro, and that is options for backing up system type settings if you have rooted the phone. So it appears that this app will fully function like the Titanium app will. If you are not rooted the options requiring root are just greyed out.
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So if i do NOT want to root my phone, will MyBackUp Pro back up my settings and apps?
I am looking at my options on MyBackup Pro without root right now, and the two options I get are to back up Apps and Data. It won't do any system level settings unless you are rooted, then it has these additional options.
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I just rooted using toast's method, and I had done a full Titanium backup using the free app. After flashing new rom (went with the stock .6 rooted rom for now), I restored using Titanium. Since I had not paid, I was prompted as it installed each app, and after completing, my apps and settings were restored, but not my home screen (wait, keep reading). I started to configure my home screen, then did a reboot when I realized that the Navigation app was missing (I remembered that Maps installs that on reboot). After reboot, my home screens were back except for a couple widgets that showed errors. It might have missed some sync settings that I've since updated, but it was pretty complete. I'm getting the paid version now to avoid having to click on each app on restore. Lesson learned: reboot after restoring

Notes: I was upgrading from stock .6 to rooted stock .6, so I can't say that it would work as seamlessly if you were flashing a custom rom. I'll try that soon, but not today.
I've done it from stock to a rooted ROM. It does save all the pages / widgets after rebooting post restore IF you're using the stock launcher.

I haven't been able to find a way to get it to save my LauncherPro pages / settings. Has anyone been able to do this?
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ive restored twice with MyBackup Pro and it would not restore homescreens well at all. I've even seen it restore the clock to be half on one screen and half on the other, and trying to remove it would force close Sense. I don't even bother now with backing up settings with it. Disappointing.
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I use CallTrack and SMS Backup to log calls and texts to my gmail account. What I would like now is an app to sync and backup my photos and videos OTA daily automatically. sprite Backup seems like it can do tjis and it uses DropBox as a storage medium.
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I'll try it. I'd rather find out now that it doesn't work than later

Not such a problem if it fails since I can get my contacts back anytime. I'm not that worried about apps yet...I dove right in and can do some things better this time around.

No time for it till maybe tonight, but when I get to it I will report back.

Been way too busy to remember this until now. It's a bit off the table since the OTA jacked my phone a little. I am actually trying to figure out what to do...I may go full root and play with some ROMs now that the source came out for real from HTC and the experts will have easier work ahead of them.

Long story short, no good for me for now.
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There was another thread entitled "How to Fix Froyo" which, in discussing the need for a Factory Reset/Wipe of the phone, explains the process and backup apps to use to get back up and running.

NOTE: as stated above already (and I have GONE THROUGH the full Factory/Reset per the link's instructions) there does NOT seem to be an app that backups up all applications and ALL SETTINGS. There ARE options to back up AND RESTORE most if not ALL of your OS SETTINGS but NOT all 3rd party settings...FAR FROM IT!! It just is what it is.

The link to How to Fix Froyo is:

http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-evo-4g/141369-how-fix-froyo.html

I also, in that thread, discuss and list the pros and cons of MyBackup Pro vs. Sprite backup, including links and information to EXACTLY what is backed up and restore-able (SMS, OS settings, 3rd party apps, 3rd party settings, etc). If you'd like to see that portion of the above thread, visit here:

http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-evo-4g/141369-how-fix-froyo-2.html#post1325939

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What I do is use google for my contacts, calendars, email. I use mybackup pro for data and apps. And to be extra safe, I just copy my entire SDcard to my desktop and archive it.
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mybackup didn't convince me it was worth paying for.

it backed up txt messages ok, backed up call history but didn't attatch the caller info(all call history said unknown) and backed up apps just as well as free apps that do the same.

it's attempt at backing up settings, backgrounds etc was a joke. i ended up hard resetting again and starting from scratch
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Old August 12th, 2010, 11:00 AM   #36 (permalink)
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mybackup didn't convince me it was worth paying for.

it backed up txt messages ok, backed up call history but didn't attatch the caller info(all call history said unknown) and backed up apps just as well as free apps that do the same.

it's attempt at backing up settings, backgrounds etc was a joke. i ended up hard resetting again and starting from scratch
Interesting...I had GOOD experience with the phone/OS settings (3rd party apps is a DIFFERENT issue..but I knew that going into this).

Seems that the only FULL FULL backup is that Titanium for root users :-/
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