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Old June 4th, 2012, 12:49 PM   #51 (permalink)
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So after unlocking, just use 4EXT as a custom recovery.

Also, is the reason some roms say the kernel must be flashed separately related to S-off or would that be unnecessary with 4EXT?

Thanks guys for explaining the basics.
Yes, after installing Recovery Control (or Recovery Updater), it will ask if you are S-ON / Unlocked with HTC dev. You say yes and it will make it so you will not need to use fastboot except with some experimental ROMs. (Like the Sense 4.0 ROMs require fastboot)

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Downloading it now. We'll see what happens.

Alright downloaded and installed JDK and the full SDK. I see the folder in my files. But following the directions the Android SDK manager never opened like it said it would. The SDK manager also shows up in my start up menu but it doesn't open there either.

Beginning to take this as a sign that I am not supposed to root this phone.....
I have a guide on how to set up the Android SDK here: http://androidforums.com/evo-3d-all-things-root/494212-complete-newbies-guide-rooting-flashing-roms-kernels-using-fastboot-updated-3-17-a-2.html#post4131303

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That's what I followed for the full sdk but the sdk manager never opened after the install to do the rest and I can't get it to open now.
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Rooting 2 triumphs was a cakewalk compared to this.
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Something must be wrong with your computer if it can't load fastboot via mini-sdk and android SDK. Try a reboot and maybe even disabling your anti-virus/firewalls before your next attempt.

I have Comodo firewall and it tries to block fastboot all the time.
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@wigginst - What OS are you running?
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I've found its best to this with a Windows XP computer. For the newbies Windows 7 may pose some challenges.

by the way if you are running this on windows 7... make sure you open command prompt as an administrator. Right click and click run as administrator.
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Is it possible to undo the HTCdev unlock and root process. Im just trying to gauge if this will insta-kill any warranty claim.
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Is it possible to undo the HTCdev unlock and root process. Im just trying to gauge if this will insta-kill any warranty claim.
It will say "Re-Locked" at the top if you unlock and then lock, again. So the watermark will always be there.
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It will say "Re-Locked" at the top if you unlock and then lock, again. So the watermark will always be there.
Don't you just need a stock RUU?

http://www.pocketables.com/2011/08/how-to-bring-your-rooted-htc-evo-3d-back-to-an-unrooted-s-on-state-1.html
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That video pre-dates the HTC method. Also, in order to flash a RUU, you need to lock the device, first. I don't recall if flashing a RUU will revert it from Re-Locked to simply Locked, but I don't think it does.

And that RUU listed in the guide you linked is an older Sprint one. It won't flash on a 1.5x HBOOT, as you have to flash the same revision or a higher one unless you're S-OFF.
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Your RUU has to flash the version for your phone or it won't work. So to be able to flash on on the Evo V 4g, you would need that specific RUU (and I don't think it has been leaked yet).

I do believe it restores it to "Locked" on the bootloader though (at least I am pretty sure it did for my One S, and I would assume it would be the same for any device).
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Your RUU has to flash the version for your phone or it won't work. So to be able to flash on on the Evo V 4g, you would need that specific RUU (and I don't think it has been leaked yet).

I do believe it restores it to "Locked" on the bootloader though (at least I am pretty sure it did for my One S, and I would assume it would be the same for any device).
So basically, we need to wait for the RUU to leak to return to complete stock?

Or if we have S-off, could we use a sprint RUU and then turn S-on using
fastboot?
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Thank you. If I read this right I just need to install the RUU and then use fastboot to type commands listed and it's all over, correct?

I currently have hboot 1.5 with s-off through the method in this thread.
Yes. After you install the RUU and before you do the writesecureflag command, go into your bootloader and make sure that it shows:

*** LOCKED ***
SHOOTER XC SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.50.0000

If it looks like that, you're ready to do the fastboot command, which should change "S-OFF" to "S-ON'.

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At this point I have:

Downloaded and installed JDK and JRE
SDK Tools
The Recovery Image
The Full SDK

I have opened the command prompt with and without adminstrator.

I have disabled the virus software.

Have had the phone connected and not connected when trying. Even had it in bootloader mode once.

And I still get the fastboot error in the command prompt window. It switches to the sdk-tools fine but as soon as i type in fastboot I get the error.

I greatly appreciate everyones help and suggestions but this seems to be getting nowhere slowly.....Apparently not enough of an android ninja to pull this off.
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Where did you install the full sdk?
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Full SDK installed to Android folder within program file (x86)
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Well, you need to make sure you are in that directory (in cmd.exe) in order to do the fastboot command.
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So C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools is where the fastboot.exe is? Did you cd to the correct place?
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What are the odds that the RUU will leak for the EVO V? I pretty much know Ill root it the second I activate it (waiting till the end of the billing cycle 6/11). But god forbid something were to happen to it I would love the ability to reset the things back to default for warranty purposes.
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What are the odds that the RUU will leak for the EVO V? I pretty much know Ill root it the second I activate it (waiting till the end of the billing cycle 6/11). But god forbid something were to happen to it I would love the ability to reset the things back to default for warranty purposes.
There are ruu leaks out already. I just need someone to post their software version. If the leaks aren't the shipped version I can get the shipped version
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There are ruu leaks out already. I just need someone to post their software version. If the leaks aren't the shipped version I can get the shipped version
Here is from my evo v 4g...
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Thanks for the great guide! Followed it and it all went down just like you said. One thing was different, flashing the rom was very fast for me, seconds actually... it was so fast, the first time I didn't even see what happened, it rebooted and I assumed it f'd up. Did it again and it was just as fast but saw that the messages looked ok, sure enough it was rooted.
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thanks for the great guide. It worked for me. I have one feedback. I can't find in it where it actually says to flash the superuser zip. I haven't put a new rom on it yet. It took me flashing the superuser zip three times to actually get root. Otherwise everything went great.
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Here is from my evo v 4g...
The leak is same software version but has rc2 appended to it. Do you happen to be rooted?
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The leak is same software version but has rc2 appended to it. Do you happen to be rooted?
my phone is right out of the box yesterday...... still haven't rooted, unlocked, or s-off...... it got a prl update that's it.....

EDIT: i remember when the MT forums were this fresh....
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thanks for the great guide. It worked for me. I have one feedback. I can't find in it where it actually says to flash the superuser zip. I haven't put a new rom on it yet. It took me flashing the superuser zip three times to actually get root. Otherwise everything went great.
Thanks for the compliment and feedback!

I did mention where to flash the SU patch. Step 7:

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But you may have missed it because I left that part a little vague. When I wrote this guide for the Evo 3D, full-fledged ROMs were common and most people said "I downloaded this ROM, how do I install it?" So I wrote this guide to accommodate that. Sorry for any confusion.

Glad that you figured it out, though
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HTCdev - Unlock Bootloader seems to be broken today.......

EDIT: the "Begin Unlock Bootloader" Button seems to be malfunctioning..... (over 3 browsers, and several different computers)

Working Now!........10:57 EST
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Congrats to those who managed to get theirs rooted! I went back and deleted the files and started over again from the beginning, trying to go EXACTLY as the guide said and still get the same fastboot error from SDK tools. Tried with the min-sdk again. Tried reinstalling the full SDK but it won't let me get into the SDK manager after installing to even finish that setup. SDK manager.exe flashes really quickly and the disappears. I also tried to cd to the full sdk folder and it does not even find that directory.
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ROOTED!!!,.... after prerequisite jdk software installs...., It Takes about 20 Mins including nandroid backup, (choose zips & install zips being 2 different tasks makes things a little confusing, not used to the multi zip flash system)....... Also to wigginst^^ make sure you have Microsoft visual c++ 2005 and 2010 updated; also .net framework. If you are running win 7 this seems to be required in a lot of circumstances for running java related things.

EDIT: Thank You jerofld! This guide was quite easy to follow, coming from vanilla androids, the HTC sense seemed a bit daunting, but your walk through made it easy as pie to get rooted....

EDIT:...Now to try and deodex this stock setup for themes.....
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Punkmaxx: downloading those now. Hopefully that will help.

Have updated everything. Still getting the fastboot error.

Punk maxx: What JDK software did you download and install? Maybe I got the wrong thing? Grasping at straws now...
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Im uploading the shipped RUU now. I will have a link for you shortly OP....
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Im uploading the shipped RUU now. I will have a link for you shortly OP....
I would appreciate it

I can then copy over my RUU flashing guide to help those who get confused with that. HBOOT 1.5x throws a monkey wrench into the process vs older HTC devices' bootloaders.
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I can then copy over my RUU flashing guide to help those who get confused with that. HBOOT 1.5x throws a monkey wrench into the process vs older HTC devices' bootloaders.
How so?

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The user has to relock before applying the RUU and then unlock again by using the unlock_code.bin.
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Any chance we can get the stock rom de-odexed and rooted? That would be a great post for most everybody to work with and revert to in case of any problems.
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Yup. Give me 24 hours and I will post it
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also kind of side question. Is it safe to remove google + and google video player on stock rom?
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At what point in the process does everything get erased & reset? Is it when we do the data reset/dalvic wipe/cache wipe or is it some point before that?

The reason I ask is because my wife got her Evo V on the 3rd of June and has proceeded to load everything and then some on there. She also has it all set-up how she wants it. Of course she did all this before I could do anything with it.

I know it says in the OP that this process erases & resets everything so, my question is, when I install the recovery and do the back-up, will that back-up save all of her settings & stuff so that I can restore it after I root it and install a ROM?

If I can't get it back to how she has it now, I doubt she'll let me touch the thing!
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At what point in the process does everything get erased & reset? Is it when we do the data reset/dalvic wipe/cache wipe or is it some point before that?

The reason I ask is because my wife got her Evo V on the 3rd of June and has proceeded to load everything and then some on there. She also has it all set-up how she wants it. Of course she did all this before I could do anything with it.

I know it says in the OP that this process erases & resets everything so, my question is, when I install the recovery and do the back-up, will that back-up save all of her settings & stuff so that I can restore it after I root it and install a ROM?

If I can't get it back to how she has it now, I doubt she'll let me touch the thing!
When you unlock the bootloader it resets everything.

So before you can make a backup.
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There is a temp root available for the Evo 3D HBOOT 1.50, but I've never tried it (I never had 1.5) and it's untested for the Evo V with HBOOT 1.57. If you want to experiment, I can find and link the procedure, but I think it'd just be easier overall if you make a manual backup with ES File Explorer and sync to Google than to try to temp root for Titanium

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also kind of side question. Is it safe to remove google + and google video player on stock rom?
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There is a temp root available for the Evo 3D HBOOT 1.50, but I've never tried it (I never had 1.5) and it's untested for the Evo V with HBOOT 1.57. If you want to experiment, I can find and link the procedure, but I think it'd just be easier overall if you make a manual backup with ES File Explorer and sync to Google than to try to temp root for Titanium



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Is the temp root for ics though. That is the important part really.
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You shouldn't need the entire SDK. You should just need the Mini-SDK. Try opening your start menu (I'm assuming you're using Windows) typing cmd, then right clicking on it and clicking run as administrator. Then navigate to the mini-sdk, or wherever you have adb.exe, and just type adb reboot, just to get your phone to reboot. (To see if it's working)
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When you unlock the bootloader it resets everything.

So before you can make a backup.
That's what I was afraid of. Thanks agentc13.
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I can't seem to find the apk to delete google+ and messenger. Any ideas?
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Just install Root Uninstaller, the free version. That's what I used.
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Could someone possibly make a idiot-Proof Video installation of this process. i am a much better learner when i can visually see whats happening. it's more hands on. thanks lol. im Just trying to root. here . MT was so simple. HTC idk where the hell i am.
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ok need quick help im ready t flash a rom but when i got to recovery and put beging flashing zip part all it says it added /sdcard/*name of rom*.zip nothing else after that and it doesnt do anything
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OK, this is a total noob question but I've never owned an HTC phone before so all this stuff is new to me.

If I use HTC unlock, there's no reason I can't make my phone s-off in the future if i want to right? HTC unlock doesn't interfere with s-off, in other words?
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ok need quick help im ready t flash a rom but when i got to recovery and put beging flashing zip part all it says it added /sdcard/*name of rom*.zip nothing else after that and it doesnt do anything
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OK, this is a total noob question but I've never owned an HTC phone before so all this stuff is new to me.

If I use HTC unlock, there's no reason I can't make my phone s-off in the future if i want to right? HTC unlock doesn't interfere with s-off, in other words?
Right now the only s-off procedure available requires you to be HTC unlocked and rooted anyways
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