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Old June 2nd, 2012, 09:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default [S-OFF] Juopunutbear S-OFF -Beta Release

Version 0.5 supports evo V

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I spoke to globatron and he said this should fully work on the VM Evo V. Enjoy guys


to undo the s-off:
Flash RUU here http://goo.im/devs/jmz/shootervm/RUU_Shooter_ICS_35_S_Sprint_WWE_VM_1.13.652.2_Radi o_1.06.00.0426_NV_1.53_144_release_262287_signed.e xe

Then run the command: fastboot oem writesecureflag 3
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so we can get s-off even though we have hboot 1.57? is that good? an explanation on hboot, s-off, s-on would be good for people who have never had an htc phone before, Thanks. ive been using android and am pretty adept at it but ive never had an HTC phone before. i read around and saw that supposedly hboot 1.4 is the best, is this true ?
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so we can get s-off even though we have hboot 1.57? is that good? an explanation on hboot, s-off, s-on would be good for people who have never had an htc phone before, Thanks. ive been using android and am pretty adept at it but ive never had an HTC phone before. i read around and saw that supposedly hboot 1.4 is the best, is this true ?
For a sprint evo 3d yes. Not for vm 3d. Hboot is basically the bios like you would have on your computer. S-off is having a 100% unlocked device doing anything you want to it. S-on but HTC unlocked means you can flash boot, system, and recovery partitions only. Everything else is locked. Full s-on means no recovery or custom anything. You might be able to root it but its easier just to HTC unllock to get root
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so we cant get custom recovery ? i was looking at 4ext recovery, its nice !
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also, so with your post we can get s-off?
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Just as a side note, I do not have this phone but I know HTC phones and the 3d. I currently have a sprint 3d. I am trying to get some funds together to be able to buy this phone though. Then I get to spend real time doing dev work and helping people here
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I was able to get s-off today. I had some troubles, but visited the chat room found at the bottom of unlimited.io's page. They were very helpful.
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so hboot is the same thing as the phone's kernel? Kk.
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so hboot is the same thing as the phone's kernel? Kk.
No. Hboot you can think of as the brains. No hboot absolutely no phone. Kernel is what interfaces the hardware with the os
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Can you flash kernels with S-on? I thought I heard the dude from htcevohacks.com say there's 3 ways you can do it.
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Can you flash kernels with S-on? I thought I heard the dude from htcevohacks.com say there's 3 ways you can do it.
What about ext4 touch recovery with smartflash.. I read you can flash roms with s-on.. is this possible?
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where do i download it? dont understand. ima HTC noob.
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which one on unlimited.io's page will work? CMDA evo 3d or GSM evo 3d?
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EVO 3D CDMA. When I did it everything went as instructed, but at the end the phone would only boot to a juopunutbear logo. Not sure if I did something wrong or it's normal. That is when I visited the chat room on the bottom of unlimited's site and they had me run a bunch of commands to get it going. I should have copied the conversation and pasted it here! If you end up going through the same situation perhaps you could paste it over here for others to use.
It factory reset my phone and wiped my sd card, but I was prepared for that to happen.
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if you get s-off can you reget s-on if u wanted to return it back to stock
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if you get s-off can you reget s-on if u wanted to return it back to stock
yes...in the process of posting instructions on returning to stock
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Please help. I am having the same issue as Admack. I have tried to Factory reset using the TWRP fastboot, but I keep getting the juopunutbear logo. *Starting to panic* I know I am missing something here, probably simple. Rooted with little problem, this S-off is kicking my butt. Thanks.
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Please help. I am having the same issue as Admack. I have tried to Factory reset using the TWRP fastboot, but I keep getting the juopunutbear logo. *Starting to panic* I know I am missing something here, probably simple. Rooted with little problem, this S-off is kicking my butt. Thanks.
Have you gotten the sunshine message when doing the s-off method
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Not sure what that is so I will say no. When doing the wire trick, it starts counting. I have gotten to 44/45, then it stops.
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Please help. I am having the same issue as Admack. I have tried to Factory reset using the TWRP fastboot, but I keep getting the juopunutbear logo. *Starting to panic* I know I am missing something here, probably simple. Rooted with little problem, this S-off is kicking my butt. Thanks.
Google your problem.. your not bricked.. you just need a command
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Or go to the chat room. Try and save the needed commands so you can share them here.
I shouldn't have bothered with s-off. Using 4ext recovery you can flash kernels on phones with s-on.
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Not sure what that is so I will say no. When doing the wire trick, it starts counting. I have gotten to 44/45, then it stops.
you didn't get your timing right...close out of it and reopen it and try again. you might have to do this multiple times before you get it right
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Thanks guys. I will try the above advice. One other (hopefully minor) issue. I originally swapped sd cards before I started this process. When I was getting the "arrow screen" only, I put my original back in to try to recover from TWRP. That didn't work so I tried the wire trick again, still not successful,*praying*, but it wiped the sd card. will this pose any major issues, assuming I am successful with the s-off?
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Good news and bad news. Good... got the timing correct and now have s-off. Bad is I am still at the "arrow screen". Any tips would be appreciated. I am still researching xda, google, etc. but will check back frequently.
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Good news and bad news. Good... got the timing correct and now have s-off. Bad is I am still at the "arrow screen". Any tips would be appreciated. I am still researching xda, google, etc. but will check back frequently.
So your stuck on the juopunutbear screen.. this his how fix. Open command prompt and where ever you extracted the file.. for me it was in my c directory..use command controlbear.exe -r
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Thanks, duel, but no luck. I tried that on the arrow screen and in fastboot. No luck. In command prompt it says device returned to normal, should be in normal boot mode.
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The good news is that it's fixable. I was at that same point. It's just a matter of finding the right adb/fastboot commands. There was probably 10 or so commands I had to run to get it booting. I think the user in the chat room that helped me was "hyuh" or something like that.

Found this:

If you are stuck at Juopunutbear screen

a) if you can go to bootloader.. Then connect the phone to pc.. From fastboot (device should read fastboot usb)

Go to controlbear folder (from where you ran controlbear originally!!!!!!!!!!!) in pc..
Open command window there
(hold shift + right click->open command window here)

Once you got the window.. Type this
"ControlBear.exe -f" without quotes (Or "ControlBear -f" depending on your pc configuration)
This should reset your phone to a working state.



If successful and if your SD card is boogered up like mine was you'll need to do this (I remember running these commands)

  1. Install busybox
  2. adb shell busybox fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk1
  3. type o
  4. type w
  5. adb shell busybox fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk1
  6. type n
  7. select primary, then 1
  8. chose default sizes
  9. type w
  10. adb shell busybox mkfs.vfat /dev/block/mmcblk1p1




See also : http://unlimited.io/troubleshooting/
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Thanks Admack. I am working again, but a lot more gray hair this morning. What does the busybox commands do? I formatted my sd card, but lost half the capacity. It is operational and I have my ROM.zip there. I want to be very careful proceeding forward after the harrowing experience from yesterday. Seriously, I think I lost a couple of years on the back end as a result.
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rooted phone and unlocked bootloader but couldn't s-off.. it said "couldn't find beer.. is bar closed? press enter to exit" or somethin like that
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You have to keep trying.. its going to take multiple times but It will work

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oh ok.. well can someone tell me first what the advantages are to having s-off? what can I not do now that I will be able to if I do s-off?
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Did the same to me several times. The timing is essential. When I finally got it, the process lasted seconds. Just keep trying to follow the timing instructions, eventually you'll get it.
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oh ok.. well can someone tell me first what the advantages are to having s-off? what can I not do now that I will be able to if I do s-off?
If you have ext4 touch recovery there is no advantage..
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I don't have money lol but then again not sure how much it costs

Edit: I'd definitely pay only three dollars but I don't even have that in my account atm
Where can I find the 4ext touch recovery online for our phone?
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I don't have money lol but then again not sure how much it costs

Edit: I'd definitely pay only three dollars but I don't even have that in my account atm
Where can I find the 4ext touch recovery online for our phone?
I found it on xda .. they have a free and paid app.. or Google it.. not to hard to find
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I can install the touch recovery from the paid app on the play market right? (just makin sure)

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is there an easier way to do S-Off?
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If you have ext4 touch recovery there is no advantage..
Not exactly true. While 4ext makes the advantage minimal, there is still a few advantages to S-OFF.

1) Some Evo 3D ROMs don't flash properly, even with 4EXT's Smartflash enabled. The boot.img needs to be flashed manually or you have ot enter 4EXT through fastboot.

2) When it comes time to update your firmware and radios, it is a royal pain to do it if you're S-ON. It requires you to either flash a stock ROM, relock the bootloader, take the OTA, then re-root from square 1. The alternative being to relock the bootloader, flash the RUU, and start from square 1. If you're S-OFF, you just name the new file "PG86IMG.zip", stick it in your SD card, and reboot into the bootloader. I have a RUU flashing guide (you can find it linked in the All Things Root guide sticky) that shows the process.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:29 PM   #41 (permalink)
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as for this 'new file' where would you get it from?
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as for this 'new file' where would you get it from?
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If you're S-OFF, you just name the new file "PG86IMG.zip", stick it in your SD card, and reboot into the bootloader.
Im assuming this is a software update file but im not sure where you would get it from
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Not exactly true. While 4ext makes the advantage minimal, there is still a few advantages to S-OFF.

1) Some Evo 3D ROMs don't flash properly, even with 4EXT's Smartflash enabled. The boot.img needs to be flashed manually or you have ot enter 4EXT through fastboot.

2) When it comes time to update your firmware and radios, it is a royal pain to do it if you're S-ON. It requires you to either flash a stock ROM, relock the bootloader, take the OTA, then re-root from square 1. The alternative being to relock the bootloader, flash the RUU, and start from square 1. If you're S-OFF, you just name the new file "PG86IMG.zip", stick it in your SD card, and reboot into the bootloader. I have a RUU flashing guide (you can find it linked in the All Things Root guide sticky) that shows the process.
Thanks for the clarification.
Now I feel like I made the right choice with s-off..
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Im assuming this is a software update file but im not sure where you would get it from
The file doesn't exist, yet. I'm talking in the future when/if/when HTC/VM updates the phone with new firmware/radios, a RUU will be released into the wild and the phone devs will extract the radios and such files out of it into flashable zip files for S-OFF people. At least, I'd hope they would. You would then download this file (when it comes into existence) and flash it to update your phone without unrooting and taking OTAs.

S-OFF > S-ON in that regard. S-ON will not allow unsigned radio files to be flashed. Which HTC only has the key to sign files properly, and they only output the RUU.
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couldnt I just update via settings -> system updates?
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so now that i have unlocked bootloader..flasher recovery..flashed root..is it okay to start the proceedure for s-off?
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So I was successful with S-Off. Are we supposed to install JuopuntBear modified hboot?
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So I was successful with S-Off. Are we supposed to install JuopuntBear modified hboot?
its personal choice. s-off as is lets you flash kernels from recovery. installing the modified hboot allows you to do many low level things. So unless you are going to be repartitioning your phone or flashing radios or stuff like that i don't see a reason to
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so now that i have unlocked bootloader..flasher recovery..flashed root..is it okay to start the proceedure for s-off?
root and htc unlock are the only requirements for the s-off procedure so yup...
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