Device(s): Samsung Galaxy Note II ,
HTC EVO V 4g (Rooted S-OFF CM10.1)(Retired)
iPad 4 32G
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so we can get s-off even though we have hboot 1.57? is that good? an explanation on hboot, s-off, s-on would be good for people who have never had an htc phone before, Thanks. ive been using android and am pretty adept at it but ive never had an HTC phone before. i read around and saw that supposedly hboot 1.4 is the best, is this true ?
so we can get s-off even though we have hboot 1.57? is that good? an explanation on hboot, s-off, s-on would be good for people who have never had an htc phone before, Thanks. ive been using android and am pretty adept at it but ive never had an HTC phone before. i read around and saw that supposedly hboot 1.4 is the best, is this true ?
For a sprint evo 3d yes. Not for vm 3d. Hboot is basically the bios like you would have on your computer. S-off is having a 100% unlocked device doing anything you want to it. S-on but HTC unlocked means you can flash boot, system, and recovery partitions only. Everything else is locked. Full s-on means no recovery or custom anything. You might be able to root it but its easier just to HTC unllock to get root
Just as a side note, I do not have this phone but I know HTC phones and the 3d. I currently have a sprint 3d. I am trying to get some funds together to be able to buy this phone though. Then I get to spend real time doing dev work and helping people here
EVO 3D CDMA. When I did it everything went as instructed, but at the end the phone would only boot to a juopunutbear logo. Not sure if I did something wrong or it's normal. That is when I visited the chat room on the bottom of unlimited's site and they had me run a bunch of commands to get it going. I should have copied the conversation and pasted it here! If you end up going through the same situation perhaps you could paste it over here for others to use.
It factory reset my phone and wiped my sd card, but I was prepared for that to happen.
Please help. I am having the same issue as Admack. I have tried to Factory reset using the TWRP fastboot, but I keep getting the juopunutbear logo. *Starting to panic* I know I am missing something here, probably simple. Rooted with little problem, this S-off is kicking my butt. Thanks.
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Please help. I am having the same issue as Admack. I have tried to Factory reset using the TWRP fastboot, but I keep getting the juopunutbear logo. *Starting to panic* I know I am missing something here, probably simple. Rooted with little problem, this S-off is kicking my butt. Thanks.
Have you gotten the sunshine message when doing the s-off method
Please help. I am having the same issue as Admack. I have tried to Factory reset using the TWRP fastboot, but I keep getting the juopunutbear logo. *Starting to panic* I know I am missing something here, probably simple. Rooted with little problem, this S-off is kicking my butt. Thanks.
Google your problem.. your not bricked.. you just need a command
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Or go to the chat room. Try and save the needed commands so you can share them here.
I shouldn't have bothered with s-off. Using 4ext recovery you can flash kernels on phones with s-on.
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Thanks guys. I will try the above advice. One other (hopefully minor) issue. I originally swapped sd cards before I started this process. When I was getting the "arrow screen" only, I put my original back in to try to recover from TWRP. That didn't work so I tried the wire trick again, still not successful,*praying*, but it wiped the sd card. will this pose any major issues, assuming I am successful with the s-off?
Good news and bad news. Good... got the timing correct and now have s-off. Bad is I am still at the "arrow screen". Any tips would be appreciated. I am still researching xda, google, etc. but will check back frequently.
Good news and bad news. Good... got the timing correct and now have s-off. Bad is I am still at the "arrow screen". Any tips would be appreciated. I am still researching xda, google, etc. but will check back frequently.
So your stuck on the juopunutbear screen.. this his how fix. Open command prompt and where ever you extracted the file.. for me it was in my c directory..use command controlbear.exe -r
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Thanks, duel, but no luck. I tried that on the arrow screen and in fastboot. No luck. In command prompt it says device returned to normal, should be in normal boot mode.
The good news is that it's fixable. I was at that same point. It's just a matter of finding the right adb/fastboot commands. There was probably 10 or so commands I had to run to get it booting. I think the user in the chat room that helped me was "hyuh" or something like that.
Found this:
If you are stuck at Juopunutbear screen
a) if you can go to bootloader.. Then connect the phone to pc.. From fastboot (device should read fastboot usb)
Go to controlbear folder (from where you ran controlbear originally!!!!!!!!!!!) in pc..
Open command window there
(hold shift + right click->open command window here)
Once you got the window.. Type this
"ControlBear.exe -f" without quotes (Or "ControlBear -f" depending on your pc configuration)
This should reset your phone to a working state.
If successful and if your SD card is boogered up like mine was you'll need to do this (I remember running these commands)
Thanks Admack. I am working again, but a lot more gray hair this morning. What does the busybox commands do? I formatted my sd card, but lost half the capacity. It is operational and I have my ROM.zip there. I want to be very careful proceeding forward after the harrowing experience from yesterday. Seriously, I think I lost a couple of years on the back end as a result.
Did the same to me several times. The timing is essential. When I finally got it, the process lasted seconds. Just keep trying to follow the timing instructions, eventually you'll get it.
I don't have money lol but then again not sure how much it costs
Edit: I'd definitely pay only three dollars but I don't even have that in my account atm
Where can I find the 4ext touch recovery online for our phone?
Last edited by Snake X; June 9th, 2012 at 09:36 PM.
I don't have money lol but then again not sure how much it costs
Edit: I'd definitely pay only three dollars but I don't even have that in my account atm
Where can I find the 4ext touch recovery online for our phone?
I found it on xda .. they have a free and paid app.. or Google it.. not to hard to find
If you have ext4 touch recovery there is no advantage..
Not exactly true. While 4ext makes the advantage minimal, there is still a few advantages to S-OFF.
1) Some Evo 3D ROMs don't flash properly, even with 4EXT's Smartflash enabled. The boot.img needs to be flashed manually or you have ot enter 4EXT through fastboot.
2) When it comes time to update your firmware and radios, it is a royal pain to do it if you're S-ON. It requires you to either flash a stock ROM, relock the bootloader, take the OTA, then re-root from square 1. The alternative being to relock the bootloader, flash the RUU, and start from square 1. If you're S-OFF, you just name the new file "PG86IMG.zip", stick it in your SD card, and reboot into the bootloader. I have a RUU flashing guide (you can find it linked in the All Things Root guide sticky) that shows the process.
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Not exactly true. While 4ext makes the advantage minimal, there is still a few advantages to S-OFF.
1) Some Evo 3D ROMs don't flash properly, even with 4EXT's Smartflash enabled. The boot.img needs to be flashed manually or you have ot enter 4EXT through fastboot.
2) When it comes time to update your firmware and radios, it is a royal pain to do it if you're S-ON. It requires you to either flash a stock ROM, relock the bootloader, take the OTA, then re-root from square 1. The alternative being to relock the bootloader, flash the RUU, and start from square 1. If you're S-OFF, you just name the new file "PG86IMG.zip", stick it in your SD card, and reboot into the bootloader. I have a RUU flashing guide (you can find it linked in the All Things Root guide sticky) that shows the process.
Thanks for the clarification.
Now I feel like I made the right choice with s-off..
Im assuming this is a software update file but im not sure where you would get it from
The file doesn't exist, yet. I'm talking in the future when/if/when HTC/VM updates the phone with new firmware/radios, a RUU will be released into the wild and the phone devs will extract the radios and such files out of it into flashable zip files for S-OFF people. At least, I'd hope they would. You would then download this file (when it comes into existence) and flash it to update your phone without unrooting and taking OTAs.
S-OFF > S-ON in that regard. S-ON will not allow unsigned radio files to be flashed. Which HTC only has the key to sign files properly, and they only output the RUU.
So I was successful with S-Off. Are we supposed to install JuopuntBear modified hboot?
its personal choice. s-off as is lets you flash kernels from recovery. installing the modified hboot allows you to do many low level things. So unless you are going to be repartitioning your phone or flashing radios or stuff like that i don't see a reason to
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