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Old October 24th, 2010, 11:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So we have long wondered if we can get rid of TouchWiz altogether. Maybe you already knew this but I didnt. So despite the fact that this linked thread below is like 6 weeks old apparently I missed it the whole time till today.
Replacing stock launcher - xda-developers
Bottom Line: Copy LP or ADW .apk file [com.fede.launcher.apk for LP] in data/app and paste in system/app. Then in system/app rename the TouchWiz30Launcher.apk to TouchWiz30Launcher.old. Reboot. Its literally a 35 second process in RE. Took longer to reboot and than to copy and paste this.
The most notable change to getting rid of TW is when you go to put a new shortcut in your LP dock, it usuallly take what 10-15 seconds for the app list to come up if you pick Apps right? Now its instant. Everything else seems as fast or faster than before. I for one am glad I made this move. I do recommend this to all using LP or ADW. If anyone still does not have RE [Root Explorer] its well worth $4 or whatever it costs thesedays, you cannot do this with Astro.

**Please note if you have the FaceBook Widget set to autosnyc you may encounter problems like Force Closing Issues**


Also on a semi-related note I have uninstalled AutoKiller as well and am seeing how I do without it. But thats another matter.

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I uninstalled AK yesterday after adrenalyne mentioned it on XDA. So far, it could be in my head, but I notice a little more lag in my web browser when scrolling. Same stuff that FC on me before still does (ive had one random FC of beautiful widgets and one in xscope while I had a bunch of tabs open). No true freezes of apps so far.
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Cool just removed TW! Thanks Saps!

This is what I specifically did:

-Copied com.fede.launcher.apk from data/app => system/app
-Moved TouchWiz30Launcher.apk from system/app to my SDcard
-FC Close loop happened, held power button, shut down
-Reboot
-Widgets were messed up, remade them and rebooted
-Reboot and done!

Edit and question:

Can you remove the other touchwiz stuff in /system/app? O_O
-TW calculator, calendar, calendar provider?
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Do you actually have LP.apk? I have com.fede.launcher.apk

Don't wanna mess this up
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com.fede.launcher.apk, didn't want to type the whole thing, haha
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Cool just removed TW! Thanks Saps!

This is what I specifically did:

-Copied LP.apk from data/app => system/app
-Moved TouchwizLauncher apk and odex from system/app to my SDcard
-FC Close loop happened, held power button, shut down
-Reboot
-Widgets were messed up, remade them and rebooted
-Reboot and done!

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Can you remove the other touchwiz stuff in /system/app? O_O
-TW calculator, calendar, calendar provider?
I renamed the TW.apk to .old but moving to SDCard is just as good. I also had to restart my BW. I think its faster and I rebooted a second time for a different reason and it seemed to boot faster the second time.
I dont know about the other stuff. I thought I was done with bloatware so Ive been out of that mode for a month. However, just this week I finally got rid of TW and 3GMobile HotSpot or whatever its called. Im still not sure I can get rid of Nuance VoiceCommands and something else I cant remember now.
But yeah good riddens to TW, even though I actually have nothing against it. Funny thing is since I removed AutoKiller I actually have even more ram free than when I had it on
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I renamed the TW.apk to .old but moving to SDCard is just as good. I also had to restart my BW. I think its faster and I rebooted a second time for a different reason and it seemed to boot faster the second time.
I dont know about the other stuff. I thought I was done with bloatware so Ive been out of that mode for a month. However, just this week I finally got rid of TW and 3GMobile HotSpot or whatever its called. Im still not sure I can get rid of Nuance VoiceCommands and something else I cant remember now.
But yeah good riddens to TW, even though I actually have nothing against it. Funny thing is since I removed AutoKiller I actually have even more ram free than when I had it on
If you're interested in speed and overall performance, try installing one of the ROMS (I took the plunge and installed jt's Super Clean). The phone is definitely snappier and you no longer have to deal with those odex files. (In this case, I just had to rename TWlauncher30.apk to .old and thats it). I just installed the ROM straight with Voodoo enabled and didn't even clear data or cache. The phone runs smoother than ever.
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Do you actually have LP.apk? I have com.fede.launcher.apk

Don't wanna mess this up
Yeah I am wondering the same thing. I can't seem to find LP.apk on mine.

Ok, com.fede.launcher.apk is the same as lp.apk. All working.
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sweet move OP. I may give it a try.
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Do you actually have LP.apk? I have com.fede.launcher.apk

Don't wanna mess this up
yes that is the correct apk, also tw is touchwizlauncher30.apk

worked great for me, just renamed touchwizlauncher30.apk to touchwizlauncher30.apk.old then reboot (did have to reload widgets).

-after having this applied for 10 minutes, I am getting an FC from process.acore regularly.
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Yeah I am wondering the same thing. I can't seem to find LP.apk on mine.

Ok, com.fede.launcher.apk is the same as lp.apk. All working.
Yeah sorry I suppose I should have been more detailed and precise in my wording in the OP.
One day in this is definitely a smoother operation. Im not kidding the quickness of replacing the dock apps from app list is worth it alone. Before it would take like 15 seconds for that list to pop up and now its automatic.

**Please note** even though I/we copy and paste from data/app once pasted in system/app it no longer resides in data/app. Why is that significant? When updates to LP come out you cannot update since the file/folder is not in data/app so you will have to manually DL a new apk and then re-paste in system/app. Its a bit of extra work but worth it from my standpoint
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Saps, I think in your clarification of the instructions you messed up a bit? You left out TWlauncher.. and you rename com.fede.launcher.apk to .old? Why? I did no such thing.
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How do you remove 3GMobile Hotspot? What file do I need to rename?
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Saps, I think in your clarification of the instructions you messed up a bit? You left out TWlauncher.. and you rename com.fede.launcher.apk to .old? Why? I did no such thing.
Hmm his directions were fine last time. Anyhow, you're supposed to rename the TW launcher to .old or move it somewhere else all together.
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I tried this, but didn't see any noticeable speed increase or lag decrease. Undone.
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its mobileAP.apk
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Nice find saps, I may have to do this. I do despise the lag you describe when accessing apps for making shortcuts although mine improved a bit when I applied Dirrk's kernel.
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I tried this, but didn't see any noticeable speed increase or lag decrease. Undone.
What did you do and how did you undo it? Step-by-step please?

I'm mostly curious if this is easy to undo without making the phone angry.
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If you want to undo it, just do the reverse directions.
Move/Rename back the TWLauncher files, delete the com.fede.launcher.apk in system/app => reboot and you'e done.
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Saps, I think in your clarification of the instructions you messed up a bit? You left out TWlauncher.. and you rename com.fede.launcher.apk to .old? Why? I did no such thing.
Wow yeah I sure did changed it to the right ones. Thanks buddy I hope I didnt screw anyone up
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Yeah I kissed good riddens to mobile hotspot. So yeah either rename in RE or Freeze in TBPro, there's a few ways to tackle it. Some remove and store in sdcard as well.
Just so we're clear in the link above they list Nuance Voice Commands as well as one you can get rid of. However, further down the page I think the poster retracts that comment. Worst case, rename it in RE if you get problems revert back to proper name. I might try this one myself as Nuance uses 11mb for no good reason
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Yeah I kissed good riddens to mobile hotspot. So yeah either rename in RE or Freeze in TBPro, there's a few ways to tackle it. Some remove and store in sdcard as well.
Just so we're clear in the link above they list Nuance Voice Commands as well as one you can get rid of. However, further down the page I think the poster retracts that comment. Worst case, rename it in RE if you get problems revert back to proper name. I might try this one myself as Nuance uses 11mb for no good reason
Are you referring to VsuiteApp.apk? I remember moving this one and it caused FC. But after a fast reboot, my phone was running fine. If you're not referring to Vsuiteapp, then forget this
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So we have long wondered if we can get rid of TouchWiz altogether. Maybe you already knew this but I didnt. So despite the fact that this linked thread below is like 6 weeks old apparently I missed it the whole time till today.
Replacing stock launcher - xda-developers
Bottom Line: Copy LP or ADW .apk file [com.fede.launcher.apk for LP] in data/app and paste in system/app. Then in system/app rename the TouchWiz30Launcher.apk to TouchWiz30Launcher.old. Reboot. Its literally a 35 second process in RE. Took longer to reboot and than to copy and paste this.
The most notable change to getting rid of TW is when you go to put a new shortcut in your LP dock, it usuallly take what 10-15 seconds for the app list to come up if you pick Apps right? Now its instant. Everything else seems as fast or faster than before. I for one am glad I made this move. I do recommend this to all using LP or ADW. If anyone still does not have RE [Root Explorer] its well worth $4 or whatever it costs thesedays, you cannot do this with Astro.

Also on a semi-related note I have uninstalled AutoKiller as well and am seeing how I do without it. But thats another matter.
For what its worth, Touchwiz isn't too bad, but i just never liked the fact that you can't put the Google Search widget while using Touchwiz (you have to use Launcher Pro for that), but I found a post can't seem to find it, but it mentioned the installer for Touchwiz from the Vibrant, which had google search. I used root explorer (great program by the way) and replaced touchwiz with that of the Vibrant, and it works great, plus you can have the Google Search widget on one of your screens, its way better now!
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For what its worth, Touchwiz isn't too bad, but i just never liked the fact that you can't put the Google Search widget while using Touchwiz (you have to use Launcher Pro for that), but I found a post can't seem to find it, but it mentioned the installer for Touchwiz from the Vibrant, which had google search. I used root explorer (great program by the way) and replaced touchwiz with that of the Vibrant, and it works great, plus you can have the Google Search widget on one of your screens, its way better now!
yeah touchwiz isnt THAT awful really, but when you use a 3rd party launcher thats so much quicker and more feature-filled than you learn to resent it. IMO sense is the only "good" oem skin and even then the lack of resizable widgets irks me.

i await the day (and i may be waiting forever ) when samsung/htc releases a vanilla android phone that doesnt have a major internal error passed off as a failsafe (g2) or a screwy file system (samsung).
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Saps, I think you should also mention in the OP that this is NOT for those who use automatic FB sync. Removing TW will cause "acore" FCs (which can get pretty annoying) because TouchWiz is integral to FB sync.
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Saps, I think you should also mention in the OP that this is NOT for those who use automatic FB sync. Removing TW will cause "acore" FCs (which can get pretty annoying) because TouchWiz is integral to FB sync.
I will add it in. I dont FB at all ever, I dont even have an account. I know Im part of that 2.3% of the earth not on FB. I'll amend the OP though, thanks for the tip
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Can you explain what you mean by Facebook Sync?

I use Facebook to sync contact status and pictures, as well as I have the android app fetching updates every 30 minutes. But since removing TouchWiz and replacing it with Launcher Pro - I have not had force close issues. Are you talking about something else?
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Can you explain what you mean by Facebook Sync?

I use Facebook to sync contact status and pictures, as well as I have the android app fetching updates every 30 minutes. But since removing TouchWiz and replacing it with Launcher Pro - I have not had force close issues. Are you talking about something else?
Yeah, that is what I'm talking about. I guess for some reason it affects some but not others? Since turning my auto-sync off I have had no more acore FC's.
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Yeah, that is what I'm talking about. I guess for some reason it affects some but not others? Since turning my auto-sync off I have had no more acore FC's.
Would it happen constantly or just when the SNS sync process kicked off?

I just realized my SNS is only set to once a day. My Facebook for Android app itself is what is set to 30 minutes, but I don't think it does any of the integrated contact-type stuff.
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I tried this, but didn't see any noticeable speed increase or lag decrease. Undone.
I think the problem is with LP. the dev for LP made his own method to read in apps when you long press. He said it would open faster if you had lots of app, but to tell the truth I think it sucks its no faster and is choppy as hell when first opened. I wish he would change it back myself. I've noticed improvement in opening the widgets list though (something he didn't change)
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I think the problem is with LP. the dev for LP made his own method to read in apps when you long press. He said it would open faster if you had lots of app, but to tell the truth I think it sucks its no faster and is choppy as hell when first opened. I wish he would change it back myself. I've noticed improvement in opening the widgets list though (something he didn't change)
the lp is rewriting the entire code for lp currently and at some point soon hopefully we should a whole new lp based on 2.2 instead of 2.0, so i think the few issues that exist with lp should be gone by then
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the lp is rewriting the entire code for lp currently and at some point soon hopefully we should a whole new lp based on 2.2 instead of 2.0, so i think the few issues that exist with lp should be gone by then
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Yeah I saw that a while back. Wonder how long it takes to do something like that? I love LPP but that app menu thing is one thing he messed up IMO. Maybe it works better don't know.
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Thanks for posting this..More ram is always better. I can definitely notice that small boost of lockscreen speed.

Though it took me 30 minutes to figure out that I didn't actually have to rename the launcher pro file to the same as the touchwiz file, and you literally did mean just copy it to system\apps.
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I have just renamed the Daily Brief app aka InfoAlarm via Root Manager (awesome app) and so far so good the screen was slow to respond but after a few seconds it was back to normal. Is it possible or safe to move renamed apps (.old) to SD card under Root Manager. Thanks
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I have just renamed the Daily Brief app aka InfoAlarm via Root Manager (awesome app) and so far so good the screen was slow to respond but after a few seconds it was back to normal. Is it possible or safe to move renamed apps (.old) to SD card under Root Manager. Thanks
Yeah you can move stuff to your sdcard if you renamed it. Many do. Of course you can move back when needed and re-name back
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I am sorry for the silly question but is it better to rename or remove to the SD card? once i am inside root manger under apps i long pressed on my renamed app and press move which gives me the option to paste. Is there steps i must follow? By the way i am on 1.2GHZ LV and the battery life is outstanding, its quite snappy too. thanks
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I am sorry for the silly question but is it better to rename or remove to the SD card? once i am inside root manger under apps i long pressed on my renamed app and press move which gives me the option to paste. Is there steps i must follow? By the way i am on 1.2GHZ LV and the battery life is outstanding, its quite snappy too. thanks
IMO, if you are going to put something on the SDCard you dont have to rename it per se since its not on the phone to conflict. If you wanna leave it right where it belongs than of course you must rename, but you dont have to remove. Admittedly, you take up a bit of extra space this way but its nothing significant or bad.
Sounds like you got it in terms of renaming and/or moving. Good to go
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This is probably one of the single best improvements I have made to my SF....thanks saps!

IMO this should be a sticky...besides the overall user experience being snappier. my widgets run smoother, and disabling TW has revealed a major flaw taht has made my device annoying:

When I had an evo (for a month---sprint service wasnt as good as VZW) I would constantly use the search button to look up contacts and apps. It was quick and easy. I noticed that on the SF, sometimes the search button was not responsive...but a simple tap of the home button would "refresh" something and indeed there was a quick blink on the screen, and then the search button was usable (albeit with slight lag, unlike the evo )

In any event, I always thought it was a LP issue, but after disabling TW, its obvious it was a TW issue...after disabling TW, the search button works EVERY time, and there's no need to hit the home button to "refresh" anything.

In the end it really is unbelievable how an international company can let something like this be, while a sole developer can create something that is better.
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glad you like it burn1010, I agree that this move makes a world of tangible difference
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ok so Im very happy with this mod, but I am getting the acore fc when my facebook account tries to sync w my contacts...I have it set to once a day.

For now I think I will manually update which still produces a fc, but the fb sync says it has been updated even with a fc---Its fine since I use the sync really to just have more info within my already existing contact entries, plus have the e-mail addresses and phone numbers of those fb friends who I dont have as contacts.
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ok so Im very happy with this mod, but I am getting the acore fc when my facebook account tries to sync w my contacts...I have it set to once a day.

For now I think I will manually update which still produces a fc, but the fb sync says it has been updated even with a fc---Its fine since I use the sync really to just have more info within my already existing contact entries, plus have the e-mail addresses and phone numbers of those fb friends who I dont have as contacts.
Yes that is the one fault of the procedure is you lose auto FB sync. I dont FB at all so no big whoop for me. If you do just do it manually. Small price to pay IMO for the net result
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Yes that is the one fault of the procedure is you lose auto FB sync. I dont FB at all so no big whoop for me. If you do just do it manually. Small price to pay IMO for the net result
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Ok got crazy question, so I guess that deserves a crazy answer right. I have done nothing to try to get rid of tw to start with, and files still show up somewhat. But when I go to home switcher no tw. And I kept getting fc's even after fixing permissions multiple times. then took of facebook sync and the fc's are gone. Any ideas?
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I know someones gotta have some idea ^ at least an off the wall one
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i cant give you an answer other than, at some point maybe you froze/renamed/deleted and dont recall?
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i cant give you an answer other than, at some point maybe you froze/renamed/deleted and dont recall?
I didnt even think to look in tb thanks for the idea, I looked and its crossed out. But I know that I didnt do it maybe at some point one of the roms that I have d/l maybe?

But anyways now I know why and finally got to the bottom of the FC issue. Thanks for opening my brain nit.
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Just FYI to those using or considering this mod - removing Touchwiz breaks the airplane toggle in the notification bar for me.

EDIT - I should say it still works, but inconsistently, and acore FCes when it doesn't work.
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Just FYI to those using or considering this mod - removing Touchwiz breaks the airplane toggle in the notification bar for me.
doesnt for me

are you on dj05? airplane mode has been weird for many at times with certain setups
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