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Old February 11th, 2009, 04:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How to block ads? (AdMob, etc)

Is there any quick and easy method to block ads on the G1?

An application or hosts file?

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Old February 11th, 2009, 05:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you want free software, I would not even ask.

I appreciate the effort to NOT charge for every app.
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Is there any quick and easy method to block ads on the G1?

An application or hosts file?
what ads, like in the browser?
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Old February 12th, 2009, 10:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think the OP means in quite a few games and apps you will see ads by AdMob as a way to monetize the game. They are usually unobtrusive.

BTW - I do have a suggestion for the original poster, write to the dev tell them you want to pay them for your own personal copy, ad-free. I bet some devs will consider it.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 01:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah specifically I was looking for a way to block AdMob, but also to block the ads on websites I visit like I currently do with AdBlock in Firefox.

I'm not really here to discuss the "ethics" of ad-blocking. It's the developers' right to serve me ads, it's my right to block them, it's their right to find ways to prevent me from blocking them.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 01:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well if you don't want to hear others opinions, and you are only here to get advice. Try electrical tape if you have a black G1 and athletic tape if you have a white one.

That's a sure fire to block the ads.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 01:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow, no need to be bitter.

If the post title was "what does everyone think the ethical implications of blocking ads on the internet are" then I would expect opinions on the matter.

Instead I was asking how to block ads. If this very concept offends you I apologize. I'm sure you hate DVRs too.
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There's good points from both sides of the fence, let's not get carried away

As a developer, I can understand devs not wanting people to block the ads - for some free applications, that's one of a few ways to monetize, and with the market opening for paid applications (actually open, that is) I can see the ad pushing applications starting to die down anyways, ...

Now, on the other side of the fence, Android is built on linux, and like every linux distro there should be something akin to hosts.allow and hosts.deny, by adding the server(s) to the hosts.deny equivalent, you would more than likely be able to block the ads.
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Be careful what you ask for then. I encourage you to research your topic and ask questions, but having digressions from the main topic is what messageboards and forums have supported from the start.

Discussing the merits of ad blocking in a platform's infancy is damaging to the developers who are willing to risk it to release applications at no charge. I didn't prevent you from finding a solution, but just initially mentioned the harm in it so that others who might read this forum in the future would be aware that there is a damaging side they might not have realized.

Intelligent discourse is appreciated.

BTW - to digress, I think the DVR's ability to time shift my viewing instead of appointment television is very valuable. I don't mind "on-demand" with ads as I get to watch a show on my timetable, not the networks. Skipping ads is what it is. It's like "not clicking" on web ads.
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Android is built on linux, and like every linux distro there should be something akin to hosts.allow and hosts.deny, by adding the server(s) to the hosts.deny equivalent, you would more than likely be able to block the ads
Thank you, exactly. I have a hosts file I use for my browser on a PC, is there an easy way to implement it on the G1?

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Discussing the merits of ad blocking in a platform's infancy is damaging to the developers who are willing to risk it to release applications at no charge.
It is not my responsibility to find ways for developers to monetize their applications. As devolio said advertising is "one of a few ways to monetize". You could argue that me not making cash donations to developers who offer free software out of the goodness of my heart is damaging to the developers also.

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Skipping ads is what it is.
How is not viewing a TV ad any different than not viewing an Internet ad? Why isn't this "damaging" to the TV station that broadcast their program for free? Sounds like a bit of cognitive dissonance on your end.
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It is not my responsibility to find ways for developers to monetize their applications. As devolio said advertising is "one of a few ways to monetize". You could argue that me not making cash donations to developers who offer free software out of the goodness of my heart is damaging to the developers also.



How is not viewing a TV ad any different than not viewing an Internet ad? Why isn't this "damaging" to the TV station that broadcast their program for free? Sounds like a bit of cognitive dissonance on your end.
Having multiple ways to generate revenue for a developer is a great situation. I am pretty tight with my purchase decisions, so an ad supported model doesn't mean I will actually click the ad. The fact that on-demand offers tv shows with ads and I don't skip them is not proof of how I behave on the internet nor dissonance of any type.

Imagine a world with no bias news, no slanted ads -- price of goods might be a lot less right? But we might only have 1 automobile choice and just a few tv stations or websites. Do you prefer microsoft who charges for everything and has much less ads in their software or google who is all about advertising to their eyeballs? I mean you have a g1....talk about cognitive dissonance.
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good point, in some respects a website may not be able to afford to exist if it didn't run a few ads here and there. That's what keeps ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX all completely free television. So go ahead, block away, but don't be too surprised when suddenly everything that was free due to advertising support now comes with a pricetag.

Unblocked ads, or having to pay to visit every website and paying for every bit of software, I'll take the ads.
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The fact that on-demand offers tv shows with ads and I don't skip them is not proof of how I behave on the internet nor dissonance of any type.
No, you are missing the point entirely, I don't even know where you came up with that. You said before:

Skipping ads is what it is. It's like "not clicking" on web ads.

But it's not, not watching an ad on TV is the same thing as not viewing an ad on the internet. You are saying they are somehow different.

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Imagine a world with no bias news, no slanted ads -- price of goods might be a lot less right? But we might only have 1 automobile choice and just a few tv stations or websites.
Lol are you saying that without advertisements there would be no market competition? So if all of a sudden there were no more ads monopolies would suddenly spring up everywhere? Do you even understand capitalism?

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Do you prefer microsoft who charges for everything and has much less ads in their software or google who is all about advertising to their eyeballs? I mean you have a g1....talk about cognitive dissonance.
I block all Google AdWords. Somehow they haven't gone broke yet.

It's a moot point by now because I have gotten the answers for blocking AdMob and browser ads I need off a forum that's not full of broke and bitter developers, but thanks for the moral diatribe anyway.

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Unblocked ads, or having to pay to visit every website and paying for every bit of software, I'll take the ads.
You are a sheep.
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And you obviously don't run a website or develop software. No reason to get your panties in a bunch because you don't agree.

PSS - Where's your apps?
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You are a sheep.
Wow, someone who knows zero about me called me a name. I am wounded.
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..broke and bitter developers..

PS Yz is a boring ripoff.
You've resorted to insulting the one person here who was actually (arguably) trying to help you? The one developer, whom you're openly trying to make monetizing difficult on?

I don't even know what to say to that...

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You are a sheep.
No more so than anyone else man, yourself included.

Come on Purp.. You had to expect some amount of turbulence asking a question like that. If this is an accurate indication of how you plan on contributing to the community in the future - I don't believe I'd mind if you stayed at said "other forum".

I'm going to close this thread because you found what you wanted, everyone has said their points, and because at this point this thread is going nowhere.

...and frankly so I don't feel like I need to keep checking here for some response to me which will almost certainly serve no real purpose other than to flame.
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