until kouma gets walk-through for his apk for kouma kernel together folks can check this out. lots of people been having questions bout setup or haven't noticed that ctmod 3.68 doesn't include the newest version of koumamod.apk
this is just the way that I do it successfully for my setup and I have walked several people through this with no problems.
this means your phone will probably blow up following this tutorial so be prepared to blame yourself and Osama bin ladin.
this has not been reviewed by kouma.
kouma says you can just install as user app. like I said this is my method that works. also this makes it system app so won't be deleted if data wiped. and I like being difficult but this isn't difficult so it cancels itself out and becomes easy.
1. flash ctmod 3.68 (if you already up and running skip this step)
if you just flashed ROM click save on SSM or data w/e you want to get superuser permissions. reboot recovery wipe data/dalvik reboot. flash the formatter zip.boot.
2. in root file manager of choice mount system as r/w
3. navigate to /system/app and delete koumamod.apk
4. navigate to /sdcard/chrome/Downloads/ (or wherever that file you downloaded went)
copy and paste in /system/app
5. long click the apk and click permissions
change to
rw-r-r
should match every thing else in that folder
6. reboot recovery and wipe dalvik if on data/flash format dalvik zip for SSM users. boot
7. go to app drawer and click on motorcycle (koumamod... duh)
click save on /data if /data or SSM if SSM and accept SU.
8. if you want swap click swap tab. long click first long very bar. navigate to where you want swap file and click <current directory> at top
example:
I'm on SSM
I mkdir /data/swap
and long clicked bar...
clicked data
clicked swap
clicked current directory
choose 32mb
made priority 100
clicked save
9. optional... additional swap file. repeat steps in different location.
I put my second in /data/app cuz that's my huge ext partition. 100mb.
so when my 32mb file on internal partition with data is filled it overflows to big swapfile on class 10 partition with apps. remember click save after each file is made.
10. reboot
I've never had a problem doing this method but that's cuz my prevail is better than yours. if your phone break clearly your should've asked kouma
Ummm, you should be able to just install the newer version over the old without having to delete it.
Just put the newer version on your sdcard, turn on Unknown sources, browse to the apk with your file browser, pick the apk, select package installer if asked, click ok to replace application, click install.
should be as easy as that.
if for some reason it doesn't, it means that the signature on the apk has been changed, which shouldn't happen unless someone resigned it.
I should probably get around to making a user manual of sorts
earlier versions wouldn't install for me. with and without removing old one first. I just put in system app. few other people had problems too and I had them do this way. also if wipe data but wanna keep system you won't lose it. I'll make edit and say if install fail drag there. I'll leave this up as reference if anybody wanna follow. this just method I use and it works for me so that what I put
other than that everything look cool though? I was just trying to get temporary place for questions and guidance so blood thread don't become a koumamod faq. I guess no body reads OPs and assume
a. koumamod is made by blood (which it is)
b. ctmod or kernel give them updated apk (which they do)
bet you folks still won't read OPs and be confused haha
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other than that everything look cool though? I was just trying to get temporary place for questions and guidance so blood thread don't become a koumamod faq. I guess no body reads OPs and assume
a. koumamod is made by blood (which it is)
b. ctmod or kernel give them updated apk (which they do)
bet you folks still won't read OPs and be confused haha
funny, you would think that since my nick is in the name, you would know who made it.
CTmod is made by Bloodawn, which comes with koumamod.
Koumamod only works with koumakernel
Koumakernel works with stock based ext4 roms, like CTmod and HAR
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Ummm, you should be able to just install the newer version over the old without having to delete it.
Just put the newer version on your sdcard, turn on Unknown sources, browse to the apk with your file browser, pick the apk, select package installer if asked, click ok to replace application, click install.
should be as easy as that.
if for some reason it doesn't, it means that the signature on the apk has been changed, which shouldn't happen unless someone resigned it.
I should probably get around to making a user manual of sorts
I did resign the apk with the signature I use for system apps. I had to do it after adding some theme shit to manifest.
I didn't know people would try to install your updates to data, I just figured they would replace the old apk.
I did resign the apk with the signature I use for system apps. I had to do it after adding some theme shit to manifest.
I didn't know people would try to install your updates to data, I just figured they would replace the old apk.
Ahhh, That makes sense then.
Well, once upgraded once, the signatures will match from then on out, so it's not an issue either way, good to know what's going on though.
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i am using ssm and I followed your instructions and it worked perfectly thank you
awesome glad to hear that. when you type "mount" in terminal it show app on mmcblk0p2 and dalvik on mmcblk0p3? and "free" shows numbers other than
0 0 0
after swap?
In the CTMod 3.6 zip file can I delete the KoumaMod.apk in system/app and put the newer Koumamod1_5.apk in place of it and then just close that zip up (if using 7-zip) and then just use that newer version of CTMod3.6 I just updated?
In the CTMod 3.6 zip file can I delete the KoumaMod.apk in system/app and put the newer Koumamod1_5.apk in place of it and then just close that zip up (if using 7-zip) and then just use that newer version of CTMod3.6 I just updated?
If you wanted to start fresh like that, yeah.
If you're already all dialed in the way you like, there's no real reason to wipe your phone just to update one app
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And why can't Blooddawn talk with Koumasaki to update ct mod 3.6 with the new apk so we don't have to reinstall everytime. Or make it setup that the internal apps use internal memory and any other apps installed after the installation of the Rom would automatically go to an alternative "internal" memory. And dalvik cache automatically moved with the script in the Rom.
I am only saying if you step back and look everyone has a different explanation of how to use Kouma mod, partitions, etc...
Please someone in black and white tell me how to use SSM (phone is faster than using "data" in the Kouma apk menu.) and still be able to have more internal memory. Also please explain the "Use swap for SSM check box that pops up after you install the new kouma apk.
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What is the point of swapping and SSM? I get the "data" option because I see the change in my internal memory.
But, when I follow the directions of RTLflat when I reboot my phone it says I have 15.4 Mb internal memory.
I want to use SSM but for my swap i want the internal memory increased.
I am confused.
you must be doing something wrong because after ssm if done right should have like 150 free. it also puts the delvik on sd instead of internal.
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And why can't Blooddawn talk with Koumasaki to update ct mod 3.6 with the new apk so we don't have to reinstall everytime. Or make it setup that the internal apps use internal memory and any other apps installed after the installation of the Rom would automatically go to an alternative "internal" memory. And dalvik cache automatically moved with the script in the Rom.
I am only saying if you step back and look everyone has a different explanation of how to use Kouma mod, partitions, etc...
Please someone in black and white tell me how to use SSM (phone is faster than using "data" in the Kouma apk menu.) and still be able to have more internal memory. Also please explain the "Use swap for SSM check box that pops up after you install the new kouma apk.
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i'm sorry about the swap, i don't use it so i don't really know much about it. as for the ssm you need to patition right for it to work. and it does put all apps on sd which is fooled to be internal. and delvick is on sd too.
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And why can't Blooddawn talk with Koumasaki to update ct mod 3.6 with the new apk so we don't have to reinstall everytime. Or make it setup that the internal apps use internal memory and any other apps installed after the installation of the Rom would automatically go to an alternative "internal" memory. And dalvik cache automatically moved with the script in the Rom.
I am only saying if you step back and look everyone has a different explanation of how to use Kouma mod, partitions, etc...
Please someone in black and white tell me how to use SSM (phone is faster than using "data" in the Kouma apk menu.) and still be able to have more internal memory. Also please explain the "Use swap for SSM check box that pops up after you install the new kouma apk.
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if you go to the sticky at top of page, the guide ctmod one, it explains how to partition sd card and set up by me in the last post.
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i am playing with matches,
earlier i selected the entire internal memory directory and tried the swap and its a no go. I don't understand what swap is completely and what am I swapping???
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if you go to the sticky at top of page, the guide ctmod one, it explains how to partition sd card and set up by me in the last post.
yes I am 100% familiar with the partitioning it's the Kouma apk settings and do dads that mess me up. I have been playing around for three days and I am ready to install all my apps again and just say f-it.
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yes I am 100% familiar with the partitioning it's the Kouma apk settings and do dads that mess me up. I have been playing around for three days and I am ready to install all my apps again and just say f-it.
When the moose knuckles are dry they're is no knucking!!!
ok yes if partitoned right, reflash ctmod and it defaults to ssm. you should see 150 mb free or so. if not then something is wrong, usually is the partitions. you need that right first before worrying about swap.
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ok yes if partitoned right, reflash ctmod and it defaults to ssm. you should see 150 mb free or so. if not then something is wrong, usually is the partitions. you need that right first before worrying about swap.
and just asking???? did you convert the swap that was partitioned to an ext 4???? not being a pest about partitioning but just asking??
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I am running windows xp and i think it does not recognize the adb run script.
I am following the directions to the "T" but that's a no go. Sounds to me like i am only able to extend my internal memory.
No biggie you were helpful thanks, again bro.
you can use cwm to make partitions but will only be so big, make the one ext4 as big as lets you and then swap as big and rest to fat and then flash this Attachment 32670 to make swap to ext4 . the adb should work on xp and that will let you make partitions bigger.that will let you run the ssm the right way and partition sizes might be good for you, mine are 2 g and they are like 38% full with a lot of data stuff and now down to like 80 or90 apps
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you can use cwm to make partitions but will only be so big, make the one ext4 as big as lets you and then swap as big and rest to fat and then flash this Attachment 32670 to make swap to ext4 . the adb should work on xp and that will let you make partitions bigger.
im running 4gb card and the options are up to 4,096
i think 512 or 1,024...
and swap 256? then flash and i should be good huh?
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you can use cwm to make partitions but will only be so big, make the one ext4 as big as lets you and then swap as big and rest to fat and then flash this Attachment 32670 to make swap to ext4 . the adb should work on xp and that will let you make partitions bigger.that will let you run the ssm the right way and partition sizes might be good for you, mine are 2 g and they are like 38% full with a lot of data stuff and now down to like 80 or90 apps
I don't know why but when I right click holding shift nothing happens but a regular menu... hmmm
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you can use cwm to make partitions but will only be so big, make the one ext4 as big as lets you and then swap as big and rest to fat and then flash this Attachment 32670 to make swap to ext4 . the adb should work on xp and that will let you make partitions bigger.that will let you run the ssm the right way and partition sizes might be good for you, mine are 2 g and they are like 38% full with a lot of data stuff and now down to like 80 or90 apps
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yes and let me know how goes, then try rebooting after flash and then look at internal.
yeah but without the adb schpeal will it work?
NOPE i have 117mb after boot, i think i'm just going to suffer for now since my computer doesn't want to give me right click jobs
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before you said you had 15mb free, was that with apps and now 117 without???????
only asking because have never done it with small partitions???? might be right. how do you load yor apps??? and when load apps you will see a drop in mem but not much..
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before you said you had 15mb free, was that with apps and now 117 without???????
no no no, I said i had 15mb after I swapped 100mb in /data and swapped 100mb in data/app, if i could figure out how to swap free space into those areas i would have it made! Also when I swapped system/app 100mb and data/app 100mb the phone would not boot. I would have to hold power button for a hard reset then the settings in Kouma apk would undo themselves.
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no no no, I said i had 15mb after I swapped 100mb in /data and swapped 100mb in data/app, if i could figure out how to swap free space into those areas i would have it made! Also when I swapped system/app 100mb and data/app 100mb the phone would not boot. I would have to hold power button for a hard reset then the settings in Kouma apk would undo themselves.
I want to be a swappy prevailor!
well sorry i don't know much about the swap. and like i said i'm on ssm and have 80-90 apps that all use alot of data and i have 97 free. had 154 free when started and when use stuff it accumulates data to run and stores settings and stuff and thats why down to 97 but is still alot and running fast too without swap. so maybe someone with swap info can help. good luck!!!! also just to let you know the swap will not give more internal, it just puts stuff in swap to give more room to operate(i believe).
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oh ok i gotcha no prob i have 812mb internal now and i swapped dalvik cache manually but Kouma has it set to erase the settings upon boot if SSM is not checked, (i'm assuming)
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oh ok i gotcha no prob i have 812mb internal now and i swapped dalvik cache manually but Kouma has it set to erase the settings upon boot if SSM is not checked, (i'm assuming)
IT WORKED@!!!
how do i test if dalvik cache is truely swapped?
not really sure, but don't think the delvik cache gets swapped, i could be wrong though. in terminal you can check all that mem stuff, thats how i know.
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well sorry i don't know much about the swap. and like i said i'm on ssm and have 80-90 apps that all use alot of data and i have 97 free. had 154 free when started and when use stuff it accumulates data to run and stores settings and stuff and thats why down to 97 but is still alot and running fast too without swap. so maybe someone with swap info can help. good luck!!!! also just to let you know the swap will not give more internal, it just puts stuff in swap to give more room to operate(i believe).
In that case we need to figure out what is safe to swap and actually benefits for enhancement. Ya know?
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In that case we need to figure out what is safe to swap and actually benefits for enhancement. Ya know?
yes for sure. but still if i get what it does is move running services over to swap so there is more room in the ram to do more things(could be wrong). mine runs great and fast at surfing web and doing anything that i never played with the swap, like i said.
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yes for sure. but still if i get what it does is move running services over to swap so there is more room in the ram to do more things(could be wrong). mine runs great and fast at surfing web and doing anything that i never played with the swap, like i said.
Are you using CTmod's stock launcher? xperia i believe?
I use lightning its weird because it uses 3 apps but they are all under 1mb and is like one giant desktop. Its spliffy
well sorry i don't know much about the swap. and like i said i'm on ssm and have 80-90 apps that all use alot of data and i have 97 free. had 154 free when started and when use stuff it accumulates data to run and stores settings and stuff and thats why down to 97 but is still alot and running fast too without swap. so maybe someone with swap info can help. good luck!!!! also just to let you know the swap will not give more internal, it just puts stuff in swap to give more room to operate(i believe).
What it does is put app on mmcblk0p3 and dalvik on mmcblk0p2
Regular ssm is opposite
That was my feature request cuz then my data apps would remain when wiping and dalvik could be wiped by formatting sd-ext in cwm. I recommend doing regular. He probably should have said switch not swap
It got nothing to do with swap
And get partitions info lite from market. Easiest way to check if u set up right and u can post screen shot if u need help
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I was asking for help a little while back and was finnaly able to return to it again. After I set everything up and installed a few apps I ran the commands in terminal emulator to check my setup.
I have a 16GB SDCard, ran SSM (11836MB-fat32/2048MB-ext2/2048MB-swap)
Did the whole setup thing as I posted here-->[Kernel][GB] KoumaKernel 2.5
-and only used a 1 swap file setup
Is this the way it should be below?:
# mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (ro,noatime)
tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,noatime,mode=755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noatime,mode=600)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noatime)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noatime)
none on /acct type cgroup (rw,relatime,cpuacct)
tmpfs on /mnt/asec type tmpfs (rw,noatime,mode=755,gid=1000)
tmpfs on /mnt/obb type tmpfs (rw,noatime,mode=755,gid=1000)
/dev/stl14 on /cache type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,data =ordered,noauto_da_alloc)
/dev/stl12 on /system type ext4 (ro,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,data=ordered,noau to_da_alloc)
none on /dev/cpuctl type cgroup (rw,relatime,cpu)
/dev/stl13 on /data type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,data =ordered,noauto_da_alloc)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 on /data/app type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,data =ordered,noauto_da_alloc)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 on /data/dalvik-cache type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,data =ordered,noauto_da_alloc)
/dev/block/vold/179:1 on /mnt/sdcard type vfat (rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000, gid=1015,fmask=0702,dmask=0702,allow_utime=0020,co depage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/block/vold/179:1 on /mnt/secure/asec type vfat (rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000, gid=1015,fmask=0702,dmask=0702,allow_utime=0020,co depage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /mnt/sdcard/.android_secure type tmpfs (ro,relatime,size=0k,mode=000)
Ssm-
--data/app √
--data/dalvik √
Swap file
--data/swap √
as long as you intended to use one partition on card for apps & the other for dalvik cache and put swap on /data (internal memory)... Then yes your doing it right
Thanks, but, .... to tell you the truth I don't know what I intended to do. Does swap work better on internal or an external partition? (class 4 sd) (I actually thought my swap was on external)
And, in your opinion, what is the best setup method to use if you plan on installing around 100 apps and want the phone to be fast and responsive and just all around good?
It seems to be ok the way it is now, some lagging here and there, but if I turn off startup things after boot in the autostart app, it makes a huge difference.
I know everyone has a different opinion about it, but what is the best setup?
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Thanks, but, .... to tell you the truth I don't know what I intended to do. Does swap work better on internal or an external partition? (class 4 sd) (I actually thought my swap was on external)
And, in your opinion, what is the best setup method to use if you plan on installing around 100 apps and want the phone to be fast and responsive and just all around good?
It seems to be ok the way it is now, some lagging here and there, but if I turn off startup things after boot in the autostart app, it makes a huge difference.
I know everyone has a different opinion about it, but what is the best setup?
You have /data
-internal memory
-all your settings, texts, and random user data goes here
Ssm takes the folder /data/app and links it to the sdext. So when you open /data/app you are viewing the partition on the sdcard mounted to the /data/app folder.
Same for /data/dalvik.
So if you put the swap file anywhere in the data partition other than /data/app or /data/dalvik-cache, then it is on the internal memory. Yours is /data/swap/swapfile. You could make it data/app/swap/swapfile or data/dalvik-cache/swap/swapfile. But if it works as is, i see no problem leaving it there. with a class 4, it's not a terrible idea. Might be worse off, thought iirc kouma had a cheap slow card and his works fine with swap on the card, so..... Idk. But that's the great thing about koumamod... You set up your Android to how you like, if it fails, change it
Rinse and repeat as needed.