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Old November 22nd, 2012, 12:56 AM   #1101 (permalink)
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thanks again, ironass. does this mean, that the signal bars in the notification area are unreliable? My data connectivity drops even when all 5 signal bars are available. I will download this app right away. I am currently running DDLP8 modem (India Specific), the links to which you had very kindly provided (Modem+RIL).
I find that you get a more accurate and longer term readout with Network Signal Info as it can monitor the signal for longer and hopefully show when it drops out. Load a data heavy page and then switch to NSI and see if the signal fails.

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Old November 22nd, 2012, 01:18 AM   #1102 (permalink)
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Ok ironass, I just opened the Google page on stock browser and the signal did indeed fluctuate. It went from -89dbm to -97dbm while the page was loading. I am on 2G network (EDGE, I think). What does this mean??? :P
I noticed that you ignored my second question entirely.... Point taken...
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 01:22 AM   #1103 (permalink)
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Ok ironass, I just opened the Google page on stock browser and the signal did indeed fluctuate. It went from -89dbm to -97dbm while the page was loading. I am on 2G network (EDGE, I think). What does this mean??? :P
I noticed that you ignored my second question entirely.... Point taken...
As this has strayed totally off topic, I will post a reply in, "Modems - Dummies Guide".
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 01:33 AM   #1104 (permalink)
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Sale, will the 4.2 mods be compatible with your JB Lite rom? Coz, the stock samsung icons are really terrible... Ancient, in fact
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Will wait for NeatRomLite before Flashing. :-)
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 03:50 AM   #1106 (permalink)
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Just downloading the full fat version.

I noticed on LPY Lite that theres a shortcut to get the torch on. When the the screen is active (but locked) you just need to press the home button. I'd noticed this before, but thought it was a bug as couldnt work out why it was happening. But now I've figured it out I'm blown away, seriously
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Finally got around to giving salesale a donation... I'm like a kid with a new toy with every new release of the ROM...

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Old November 22nd, 2012, 05:32 AM   #1108 (permalink)
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Hmmmm, since it's 6:32AM on Forum Time and 7:30PM here in the Philippines, I guess I'll see XXLSJ NeatRomLite tomorrow midnight here in PH (GMT +8)
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Ironass, Hawker and everyone else who flashed the full version, how is the scrolling and smoothness and the battery life? Do you guys notice any difference between Neatrom ICS and Neatrom JB? Please be kind enough to elaborate.
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I just tried to install this & get a message E:can't open /emmc/XXLSJ_NeatROM_Full.zip(bad)
Installation aborted

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EDIT: My initial download was the 1st link, but I also paused it part way through. I've downloaded it again, using the bottom link and its installing.

There was a difference of about 60mb between the files also. Im pressuming this is due to me pausing the download.
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I noticed that you ignored my second question entirely.... Point taken...
Oh!... the second question that you added after I posted my reply... GMT+1 hour.

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Ironass, Hawker and everyone else who flashed the full version, how is the scrolling and smoothness and the battery life? Do you guys notice any difference between Neatrom ICS and Neatrom JB? Please be kind enough to elaborate.
I thought we elaborated in these posts...

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Because I have not flashed a Jelly Bean ROM until now, I'm noticing a whole host of new app's and features, such as ChatON, S Planner, etc: Not to mention the new TouchWiz launcher and widgets.

As most of you will already know, I'm a big fan of the clear, clean, crisp, stock, look and NEAT ROM XXLSJ keeps this. Very easy to read at a glance, with or without reading glasses.

Scrolling and menus are quick and smooth on this ROM. No hint of judder or lag for me. It remains to be seen what the battery life on the PhilZ_3.5 kernel, that the ROM comes bundled with, fares in battery tests as it is roughly a stock kernel with no manipulation. As far as I am aware, neither Siyah or Dorimanx are compatible with this ROM, or stock JB, and so it is a case of Hobsons Choice at the moment. However, the PhilZ kernel at least contains the, "brick bug", fix.

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Firstly I want to say that compared to GB->ICS, the leap from ICS->JB is HUGE as far as what it has to offer to the user. I don't know if technically the jump is huge (it may well be even bigger) but to you the user, JB is a whole new ball game.

With the exception of one or two minor niggles (detailed later) the ROM itself up to now has been flawless. Its very slick and smooth, boots up very quickly compared to ICS. I did not expect for one minute that this leaked pre-release would be as good as this. I'm already convinced it will now become my daily runner over XWLPY. Battery is still of course an unknown quantity but I'm not too bothered at this stage.

With Sale's init.d and build.prop tweaks, I expect XXLSJ Lite to be slightly better again.
See also the screenshots from those two posts, illustrating the differences in more detail.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 07:44 AM   #1112 (permalink)
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This is truly a case of Hobson's choice then. While I have nothing against the stock look, I love the Dorimanx or Siyah kernel because of the ease with which battery life can increase with proper use. But I will install the Neatrom Lite nonetheless. Thanks Ironass. GMT +1 hour huh? Clear as mud to me, mate
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how is the scrolling and smoothness and the battery life?
The first two are fine, but the last will take a couple of days to evaluate seeing as it's a completely new ROM/kernel combo.
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Thanks Ironass. GMT +1 hour huh? Clear as mud to me, mate
Select on phone... World Clock > Add, "Belgrade/Serbia", now you can compare your time with sale's!
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Ok, its 15.05 in Belgrade and 19.35 in India. I think I will be able to flash Neatrom Lite first thing tomorrow morning. Last day with Jellybam rom (CM10, AOKP based.) I have been flashing almost 1 rom a day for the last so many weeks. I think Sale's rom might just become my daily driver(I have had none, until now) Ironass, seeing as you have been on Neatrom for the last four months, any advice on how to settle down (this has nothing to do with relationships or marriage )
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After I've finished updating, am I able to do a titanium restore to get everything back to before, or isn't a fresh start between ICS and JB?
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You can back restore your user apps but NOT the system apps from titanium backup.
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When neat jb lite comes out, I am planning to "start again" with my phone, I.e. delete as much stuff from my internal and external card... how would I go about doing this and what can't I remove?

Many thanks for any help....
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Do a full wipe before installing the rom. Delete old nandroid backups but keep one of your present rom. Delete user apps which you don't need. i assume you will need yur old photos, videos etc, so dont remove them. You wont be needing the system apps from your old rom so dont bother restoring them from titanium backup. You can also freeze apps from Neatrom Lite, which you dont need. Thats all I can think of, mate
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Thanks for the reply, my photos and videos etc are set up to dropbox to my pc when I take them so they can go. And my music airsyncs when I get home anyways. Over the last 18 months I have got so much junk on here I don't use and I need to get my phone ready for my holiday... hoping to fill it with games and useful stuff for the flight...
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Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but i have encountered some problems, since I flashed last night.

1. Screen does not respond when pressing unlock button. I have to wait a few secs for the touch to be active.

2. Google Now hates my voice, everytime I try and make light conversation she craches, silly bint

Is this because this version of firmware is still under testing?


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Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but i have encountered some problems, since I flashed last night.

1. Screen does not respond when pressing unlock button. I have to wait a few secs for the touch to be active.

2. Google Now hates my voice, everytime I try and make light conversation she craches, silly bint

Is this because this version of firmware is still under testing?


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Silly bint is what I call Sygic's "Emma" when she directs me sometimes ! The wife hates me doing that as she finds the word "bint" very offensive !

Anyway back on topic, It could be because the firmware is still under testing although it is an official firmware. Did you (and I'm not trying to "teach my grandmother to suck eggs," so to type) do the usual wipes before flashing ?
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Right, time is mine Done CWM back up, done Titanium back up, done EFS Back up, all relevant folders copied to PC. I think a complete purge is needed if not necessary before flashing so I'm copying all my phones media (both internal and external SD) and doing a full clean up. I'm going to flash onto a pristine scrubbed clean SGSII. Of course I'll still be here til midnight copying back and restoring but I'll know any issues are not due to any ICS related debris left on my phone. A belt and braces approach I know, but if I have any issues I know I can report back in this thread and they're JB issues and nothing else.
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Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but i have encountered some problems, since I flashed last night.

1. Screen does not respond when pressing unlock button. I have to wait a few secs for the touch to be active.

2. Google Now hates my voice, everytime I try and make light conversation she craches, silly bint

Is this because this version of firmware is still under testing?


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Silly bint is what I call Sygic's "Emma" when she directs me sometimes ! The wife hates me doing that as she finds the word "bint" very offensive !
Most bints do!
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Right, time is mine Done CWM back up, done Titanium back up, done EFS Back up, all relevant folders copied to PC. I think a complete purge is needed if not necessary before flashing so I'm copying all my phones media (both internal and external SD) and doing a full clean up. I'm going to flash onto a pristine scrubbed clean SGSII. Of course I'll still be here til midnight copying back and restoring but I'll know any issues are not due to any ICS related debris left on my phone. A belt and braces approach I know, but if I have any issues I know I can report back in this thread and they're JB issues and nothing else.
Bravo dynomot!

A man after my own heart. After flashing XXLSJ over NEAT LPY, for testing purposes, I have spent today doing a, "clean", install as you have described and for the very reasons you mention.
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I believe that the lock screen issue is well known with all the other variations ( well, the first release non rooted and the simplistic release)

I know I've encountered it with both simplistic and neat, I just feel it's a minor issue and it doesn't happen each time.

although this is a stock Samsung Rom, it's not actually official, and I think there may be another unofficial leak before any proper release!
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The thanks are all due you, Sale. I'd sworn never to let TouchWiz darken my home screen again, but I'm actually quite liking what Samsung have done with 4.1.2.
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Most bints do!

I know, why do you think I call "Emma" a "stupid bint" when the missus is in the car ? . BTW from Llandudno to Barry she'd hunt you down and purposely scratch your SGSII if she thought you were calling her a bint. She really hates that word, it's worse than any other insult in her eyes and seeing how she rolls her eyes when I'm reading or posting here and mutters "geek" under her breath, believe me, your SGSII would suffer.
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I know, why do you think I call "Emma" a "stupid bint" when the missus is in the car ? . BTW from Llandudno to Barry she'd hunt you down and purposely scratch your SGSII if she thought you were calling her a bint. She really hates that word, it's worse than any other insult in her eyes and seeing how she rolls her eyes when I'm reading or posting here and mutters "geek" under her breath, believe me, your SGSII would suffer.
I thought it was a welsh thing
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lite came through on the email half an hour ago... looks well better than full Rom ( little mods in it such as 4way reboot etc...) downloading as I type :-)

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Does anybody know if Dorimanx Kernel supports the latest NeatRom XXLSJ ?

If not What is the next best Kernal that works with this Rom ?
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Does anybody know if Dorimanx Kernel supports the latest NeatRom XXLSJ ?
It doesn't.

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If not What is the next best Kernal that works with this Rom ?
Afaik Samsung haven't released the kernel source yet, and until they do custom kernels aren't possible. Right now I think the 'best' option is the one Sasa includes, PhilZ_3.5.
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PhilZ is now on 3.62 by the way.
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Afaik Samsung haven't released the kernel source yet, and until they do custom kernels aren't possible. Right now I think the 'best' option is the one Sasa includes, PhilZ_3.5.
Philz has just released 3.62 with more improvements mate ...he's posted as link in sales xda thread if you're interested
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Philz has just released 3.62 with more improvements mate ...he's posted as link in sales xda thread if you're interested
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Well well, looks like another late-night full-wipe-and-reinstall session.....
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Any news on Android 5............. Lol jk take a rest Uncle.

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Hello friends,
Has Neatrom Lite JB released yet? I dont see any links on XDA

Anyone? Sale, has neatrom lite been uploaded??
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Donors first i guess patience is the key mate....
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Ok Guys, you know what's coming...


>>>>>> JB NeatROM Lite <<<<<<



XXLSJ NeatROM Lite v4.0

Hello Guys

If you like my work, please consider a small donation to help me continue developing


EVERY DONATION IS MUCH APPRECIATED, NO MATTER THE AMOUNT




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Firmware: I9100XXLSJ (4.1.2)
Build date: Tue Nov 6
Modem: XXLS6
CSC: XXLS1
Change List: 462349


Kernel: XXLSJ-PhilZ_3.5


Available languages in Rom: Catala, Cestina, Dansk, Deutsch, English (Australia), English (United Kingdom), English (United States), Espanol, Estonian, Euskara, Francais, Galego, Hrvatski, Icelandic, Irish, Italiano, Kazakh, Latviesu, Lietuviu, Macedonian, Magyar, Nederlands, Norsk bokmal, Polski, Portugues, Romana, Slovencina, Slovenscina, Suomi, Svenska, Turkce, Uzbek, Greek, Bulgarian, Russian, Ukrainian, Serbian, Korean

Fully Deodexed
Zipaligned
Rooted
BusyBox
SuperSU
EFS auto backup
NO WIPE
Disabled boot sounds
Init.d support



JB Font
Black Status Bar
13 Toggles in Status Bar (Thanks to my friend Mirko ddd)
Multiwindow - Fully Worked (Big Thanks for master_droid)
Toggle for Multiwindow in Settings
Toggle for Multiwindow in Status Bar
Smart Stay
Toggle for Smart Stay In Status Bar
Increase Contacts adding for the message (1000 contacts instead of 10 contacts)
No Auto Converting messages to MMS
Disabled Home Button Lag
Enabled Camera Sound Menu
No Call Ring Delay
4 Way Reboot
4 Icons On Lockscreen
Enabled All Languages For Samsung Keyboard
Faster GPS Lock
Enabled Sensor Aiding For Fast GPS Lock
Enabled Media Widgets
Skip Song
Ripple Lockscreen
Toggle For Ripple Lockscreen In Settings
Enabled More Contacts (990)
Enabled Scrolling Cache
Flash Player
Large Apn List
Removed Bloatware (49 Apps)
Init.d Support
Init.d Tweaks
Build.prop Tweaks

Updated YouTube to v4.1.47
Updated Google Maps to v6.14.1
Updated Google Search to v2.1.12
Updated Google+ to v3.2.2
Updated Google Play Store v3.10.9...
and many more...
I probably forgot something

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XXLSJ NeatRom Lite v4.0
XXLSJ NeatRom Lite v4.0 Mirror 1
XXLSJ NeatRom Lite v4.0 Mirror 2 Thanks to siberian tiger
XXLSJ NeatRom Lite v4.0 Mirror 3 Thanks to ApriliaM3
MD5 Sum: 12e9fe73d8604d500ad72f81d3ab09b5 XXLSJ_NeatROM_Lite_v4.0.zip


XXLSJ Removed Apps
4ecc16f370881bd6223fee2165b33323 XXLSJ_RemovedApps.zip

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BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP...

I strongly recommend NANDROID backup first


Installation without wipe:

-Download and place zip on internal sdcard
-Go to recovery
-Wipe cache
-Advanced
-Wipe dalvik cache
-Install Rom




Installation with Full wipe:

-Download and place zip on internal sdcard
-Go to recovery
-Wipe data
-Wipe cache
-Wipe dalvik cache
-Mounts and storage
-Format system
-Install Rom
-First boot takes about 5-10 mins, so don't panic
-Reboot device

All the other mods will be available as soon, through Aroma Installer. I'm working on it

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Thanks Sale! Downloading Now!!!
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No SMS Mod? Ok. :-( Loljk. Downloading. >
Not reading well, SMS Mod is there! XD
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I've been on the full fat version for nearly 24 hours now & loving it. I also have the, intermittent, lock screen problem - but I can live for this in the short term as the ROM is super smooth.

The only other issue I've had is an app locking up. The only way to get out of the app was to turn the screen off until android dumped the app.

Since I've unplugged this morning, 1h 51m, my kernel wake lock is a hefty 1h 14m with the main culprits being wlan_wake, wlan_rx_wake, l2_hsic and multipdp all over 5 minutes each.

Overall this is a very impressive ROM, considering its the 1st release of it makes it even more impressive!!!
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Can I format my internal storage before flashing jb neat Rom... currently on 3.6 neat Rom. I want to have as little on my phone when I have the new Rom on it...

I have formatted my external sd card already just have barely any space internally...
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 05:37 AM   #1148 (permalink)
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One question.
How to remove Haptic Feedback/Vibration on TouchWiz?
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Settings > Sound > System, Haptic Feedback

You'll have to double check some apps that use it also. I had to turn it off on swiftkey separately.
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Another thing I noticed about the ROM was the size of the text for a notification, which is quite large.

Is there any way to change this? I've changed the system font size to small, but this doesn't change the notification font size.
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