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Old May 24th, 2012, 01:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I installed this little cracker last night.
If you like blinged up snazzy ROMs then this one is not for you!
This one is a pure stock based ROM. It is of course deodexed, so it gives you much more flexibility for tweaking. There are tweaks you can choose to install after flashing such as 15 toggles, ICS lockscreen, extended power menu, full screen caller id etc.

If you prefer the stock look (and I must admit I do) then I feel this one is for you.

Its a very classy, slick and polished ROM, as you would expect from a "stock" ROM. What's more, the developer (Sale) seems to know is stuff, and unlike a number of other "devs" is very helpful and listens to comments and suggestions.

The ROM comes in 2 flavours, namely Full and Lite.
Full is the full stock ROM with nothing added, nothing taken away.
Lite has a few of Sale's tweaks (in build.prop and init.d primarily) and has the following applications removed:

Removed apps (XXLSJ):
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GameHub_2.0_ICS_WVGA_ngmoco
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HelpHub
Kies
kieswifi
Kobo.apk
lcdtest_U1_EUR_OPEN
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MusicHub_31
OceanWeather
PlusOne
PolarisViewer
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ReadersHub
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SamsungAppsUNA3
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VideoHub
YahoonewsDaemon
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Sounds interesting. Would be good to hear some battery life comments once you've been on it a bit longer. I likes a good battery life
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been hopping between this and the vk rom recently. Both seem as smooth and quick as each other. The only two ics roms id really recommend so far after trying most of them.

Neat rom also works well with the vertumus ics theme
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I may have to try this, still on D4rom v10 as I still find it the best ROM about so far, but this does look interesting
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I'm using Hydrogen and am a big fan of stock. Might just give this a go.
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Why, oh why, oh why, do I listen to Hawker!

He pushed me into installing the NEAT ROM yesterday. He told me that as I liked a lot of the stock features of LPD, that I would like this ROM.

He told me that it was lean, mean and keen.

He told me that it was what I was looking for... it had good, clear, graphics. It wasn't overly fussy. The list goes on...

So, at Hawker's insistence, I did a Full Wipe from VK ROM and installed NEAT. I then went through the process of re-installing everything from scratch and sat back and looked at NEAT.

It was at that moment that I realised that, to all intents and purposes... I'd just bl**dy well installed the stock LPD ROM!!!

It was identical in every way. I then set about installing several of the mod's that come with the ROM, such as, the 15 toggle notification bar, green circle battery, CRT effect, lock screen, etc:

At the end of it, I had a modded LPD, stock ROM.

I could have saved myself a lot of time and trouble, if I'd just flashed those mod's to my existing stock LPD ROM.

So, that's what I did. I re-installed my stock LPD ROM and flashed the same mod's to it. No problem.

So, in short, if you have the LPD, stock, ROM already... just flash the mod's from this ROM.

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im using hydrogen, saw their thread on XDA is now closed as paradoxx and netchip had a fall out about donations, and hydro is no more. sad, was a pretty good rom. now on the lookout for a new ICS, will give Neat a flash later.
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im using hydrogen, saw their thread on XDA is now closed as paradoxx and netchip had a fall out about donations, and hydro is no more. sad, was a pretty good rom. now on the lookout for a new ICS, will give Neat a flash later.
Argh I hadn't seen that! Oh well I guess i'm officially on the hunt for a newie then so will have to actually stop being lazy and start trying a few!
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im using hydrogen, saw their thread on XDA is now closed as paradoxx and netchip had a fall out about donations, and hydro is no more. sad, was a pretty good rom. now on the lookout for a new ICS, will give Neat a flash later.
Give Dragon 2.7 (AOKP Build 37) a try. I installed it last night and find it to be a very sexy looking ROM. The Aroma installer allows you to pick and choose what you want to install. Comes with S Voice, S3 live wallpaper and many other cool apps. You can opt out of installing the things you don't want. BTW, it is a big download but worth it to me!
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Sale is now deodexing XWLPE (Slovakia)

I would suspect a new release in the next day or so.
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Give Dragon 2.7 (AOKP Build 37) a try. I installed it last night and find it to be a very sexy looking ROM. The Aroma installer allows you to pick and choose what you want to install. Comes with S Voice, S3 live wallpaper and many other cool apps. You can opt out of installing the things you don't want. BTW, it is a big download but worth it to me!
the aroma installer is lush, first saw it on d4 rom (i think), would be nice if checkrom used summat like this on their next release.

i had installed a previous version of dragon (and tried the new 2.7), doesn't appear to add anything that other AOKP roms are giving, apart from a folder full of "bolt ons". its basically a clone of resurrection/d4, but still a decent rom non the less. the last version of hydrogen had some nice new tweaks, and a new vers was imminent, but its support is sadly discontinued.

only other AOKP rom which gives summat different is paranoidandroid, which is d4 with tabletUI and on the fly DPI changing. its a nifty concept, and i got it to work pretty well, but changing DPI is about as good a fart in a spacesuit for me (stock 240 or bust), as my lamps aren't what they used to be (see my avatar for proof)
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Looks like new version of Neat is up
It is in fact LPF, with LPX modem
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OK... in spite of my earlier post, I flashed this version + mod's very quickly last night before going out.

As I mentioned, it is basically the deodexed version of the stock mod. In this case, the very latest, to-date, LPF.

Since Samsung do not deign to release changelogs it is difficult to see any major changes over and above LPD.

I took photos and videos last night and they seem fine... very good in fact.

No freezes or FC's. Is very fluid using it in conjunction with Siyah 3.2.6. The included modem, LPX, is as good as LPS and LPW.

Hard for me to say on battery life as I gave it a good thrashing last night, even flashing the LPF ROM and mod's on battery.

The 15 toggle, configurable, scrollable Notification bar toggle looks good and works well.

Other mod's are CRT, (Cathode Ray Tube), opening and closing screen effect that will be familiar to CheckROM users. The No increasing ring tone. SMS/MMS removed from call log mod. ICS lockscreen mod. Large caller image for calls. There's also a spell checker mod wot I 'aven't tryd yet.
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Firmware: I9100XWLPF (4.0.3) - 2.1

Firmware: I9100XXLPW (4.0.3) - 2.2

Can someone tell me which of these has the better battery life. I'm hearing arguments for both sides. ROM looks good, nice and simple, might give it a go!
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Firmware: I9100XWLPF (4.0.3) - 2.1

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Can someone tell me which of these has the better battery life. I'm hearing arguments for both sides. ROM looks good, nice and simple, might give it a go!
I doubt if anyone's had both those ROM's on there phone long enough to be able to give you an answer. I only had LPF on Saturday and LPW was out yesterday I believe. LPF is nearly three weeks newer than LPW... if that helps!
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I've downloaded both but I think i'll give 2.1 a lash. Didn't realise that LPW was so new, the lettering confuses the hell out of me!
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Having a problem with cwm. My install "zip from internal sd card" option is missing! Result is the same if I reboot the phone into cwm or use the app itself. Trying to install the 15 toggles and a battery style...
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EDIT: I JUST DISCOVERED THE INTERNAL SD OPTION IS IN THE "INSTALL ZIP FROM SD CARD". Feel silly now
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how come after i installed this rom my root doenst exist anymore? it says ur phone does not have any root access. any idea guys? ty
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how come after i installed this rom my root doenst exist anymore? it says ur phone does not have any root access. any idea guys? ty
It happens sometimes when flashing ROM's. Just re-root again.
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how come after i installed this rom my root doenst exist anymore? it says ur phone does not have any root access. any idea guys? ty
have you tried opening superuser? Sometimes opening it once then allows the apps to see the root access
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Been on this for a couple of hours now & loving it. Came from VK and this seems a whole load smoother & more responsive.
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I'm still loving D4, although I know that's going to go to the wall sooner or later. How does this compare?
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Has anyone tried ICS Domination on this bad boy. Seems quite popular, over 1.5 million views on xda (apparently)!
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So.. um.. forgive me but what is the fascination with this rom? Isn't it just a stock rom but rooted?
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Yup its pretty much a 100% stock ROM.
The benefit is the dev is very helpful and informative, so give you a little more scope for tweaking. Most mods should also work on an odexed stock ROM, but no doubt some will not.
If you like stock ROMs (and a surprising number of people do) this ROM just gives you a little more flexibility
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Has anyone tried ICS Domination on this bad boy. Seems quite popular, over 1.5 million views on xda (apparently)!
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So.. um.. forgive me but what is the fascination with this rom? Isn't it just a stock rom but rooted?
Essentially it is but its also deodexed which i think means you can add more support for themes and seperate mods.
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Yea it works fine.
Is it possible to use domination and the jaykay framework with this rom? I downloaded the jaykay deluxe app yesterday, pretty impressive I have to say.
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Is it possible to use domination and the jaykay framework with this rom? I downloaded the jaykay deluxe app yesterday, pretty impressive I have to say.
not entirely sure but i think i read someone else say they werent compatible with each other at the moment
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I think you're right skimminstones. If I remember correctly, you cannot install the Domination theme over any mod's whatsoever.

I don't know if this means that you could flash the JKay framework over Domination afterwards though... I would be very careful about it.
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I'll try and find out more on this regarding why they are incompatible, this is still kind of new to me. ICS is finally starting to fulfill the hype!
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Here you go sflannery07... you can have your cake and eat it!

JKay framework comes installed with the latest Domination theme, here.

"Requirements:
- U need rom without any themes or mods install
- Don't flash it even over my CWM packages
- Make a backup just in case before flashing
- Uninstall JKAY deluxe settings app (latest version will be installed with theme)
- If u have any other mods (like phone with no inc. record.full pic), remove it
- Remove all mods
- If u have older version of JKAY app, please uninstall
- Patience, installation is just little bit longer
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Just make sure that you know if your ICS ROM is odexed or deodexed.
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Here you go sflannery07... you can have your cake and eat it!

JKay framework comes installed with the latest Domination theme, here.

"Requirements:
- U need rom without any themes or mods install
- Don't flash it even over my CWM packages
- Make a backup just in case before flashing
- Uninstall JKAY deluxe settings app (latest version will be installed with theme)
- If u have any other mods (like phone with no inc. record.full pic), remove it
- Remove all mods
- If u have older version of JKAY app, please uninstall
- Patience, installation is just little bit longer"

Just make sure that you know if your ICS ROM is odexed or deodexed.
And eat I shall ! Because I already have the jaykay framework installed will this affect the installation? I can uninstall the deluxe app but do I need to remove the jaykay stuff??
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And eat I shall ! Because I already have the jaykay framework installed will this affect the installation? I can uninstall the deluxe app but do I need to remove the jaykay stuff??
Judging by the two lines of instruction underneath the one I highlighted, yes!

I guess you could use the JKay restore .zip for that though.
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I'll try and find out more on this regarding why they are incompatible, this is still kind of new to me. ICS is finally starting to fulfill the hype!
Basically there are 2 types of "themes"

The safest and most flexible is a "morpher". This will take your bits and bobs, and morph it into the current .apk files on your device. The theme is usually in a sub-folder in the flashable zip, and within this folder is a FOLDER that represents the .apk application's file name. All changes in there are morphed over the current .apk file(s)

The second "theme" is not so much a theme, but a replacement of the application(s) themselves. Therefore, any mods to affected apps will be blitzed by the "theme" files. These zips just perform a package extract of the system folder, and within there are the .apk files themselves. After "themeing" such a zip, you may be lucky and be able to flash your specific mods over on top, but this will depend on if your mods are .apk files or morphs. You might get away with it if your mods are morphs, but if your mods are the apk files, then you will lose your original themed apps. Depending on the extent of the themed files, you may not even be able to reboot after attempting your mods.
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Judging by the two lines of instruction underneath the one I highlighted, yes!

I guess you could use the JKay restore .zip for that though.

My bad . Forgot about the jaykay restore zip, many thanks ironass. Forgive my noobness!
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Neat lpg is now up.
Now do i flash or wait for jkay to catch up?
Decisions decisions!
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Oooh! Saw the changelog, glad the deepsleep has been improved. Jkay won't be too far behind I'm sure. Let us know if you flash!!
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Hi Guys. I am currently on GB 2.3.6 Orange UK rooted. Can I flash this rom from the zip file in CWM or do I have to use Odin. My problem is that my pc has started to spontaneously reboot and I am worried it will do it mid flash.
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Just do a full wipe then a cwm flash.
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Thanks for your reply Hawker. Will a full wipe not remove the zip file?. Sorry Im a bit new to this.
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Thanks for your reply Hawker. Will a full wipe not remove the zip file?. Sorry Im a bit new to this.
full wipe (data, cache + dalvik) in CWM will only wipe your gingerbread system files and not files on your internal/external card (ie. the rom zip you are gonna flash)

plus! it won't do any harm to make a nandroid backup with CWM first in case summat goes wrong with flashing the new rom.
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Thanks Simes6600 Ill try it when I get home.
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What is termed a full wipe is a factory reset and format of /system. These can be performed in cwm recovery. Neither will touch your internal/external sd card.
Just remember you would have to set up your phone from scratch when running your new rom for the first time.
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Thanks Hawker. Im looking forward to using this rom. You seem to like it. Do I just wipe all the options in cwm?
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Just do a full wipe then a cwm flash.
Same question goes for me Hawker. Now I am using Checkrom Revo HD v6 and want to move to this ROM. Some say I should go to a Stock ROM via Odin before flashing this one to avoid file structure problems, etc.

At xdaDevelopers I don't see someone saying I should do that.

So Can I move from Checkrom v6 (GB) directly to this ICS ROM via Recovery? I should do a full wipe? What about USB Storage. Should I also delete that? If so How?

Thank you very much. I appreciate your valuable help!
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I like Neat very much. Its basically a stock ROM (which I've always liked) but being deodexed gives it a bit more flexibility for tweaking. Big attraction to me is the developer, who seems to know his onions and is very helpful indeed. Probably the most helpful developer I've seen on XDA alongside Gokhan.

I didnt experience any problems moving directly from GB to ICS. All I did was a full wipe, then flash the ROM via CWM. Do a factory reset and format of /system, or if you want to do a more thorough job, run GS2ROMNuke

However, I've known a few who have experienced problems with their ICS custom ROM, and found that flashing a stock firmware base through Odin, and then wiping and re-flashing the custom ROM seemed to cure problems.

Personally, I would just full wipe, flash Neat then see how it goes.
If you get problems, then try flashin stock followed by Neat.
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I like Neat very much. Its basically a stock ROM (which I've always liked) but being deodexed gives it a bit more flexibility for tweaking. Big attraction to me is the developer, who seems to know his onions and is very helpful indeed. Probably the most helpful developer I've seen on XDA alongside Gokhan.

I didnt experience any problems moving directly from GB to ICS. All I did was a full wipe, then flash the ROM via CWM. Do a factory reset and format of /system, or if you want to do a more thorough job, run GS2ROMNuke

However, I've known a few who have experienced problems with their ICS custom ROM, and found that flashing a stock firmware base through Odin, and then wiping and re-flashing the custom ROM seemed to cure problems.

Personally, I would just full wipe, flash Neat then see how it goes.
If you get problems, then try flashin stock followed by Neat.
I finally did. Nice rom. Full wipe and format data, system and cache. Then applying zip from internal SD.
Not sure if this is a factory reset.
Up to now it works fine. I would like to know what you do to improve battery life.
Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
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Thanks for your advice Hawker. Did a full wipe & flashed this last night. Couple of glitches but loving this rom.
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I think I have finally achieved ICS nirvana with this rom. Running LPG I have less than 1% per hour batter drain overnight in a not great signal area

Will move to the Lite version when Sale releases it

Not sure about the LPX modem though. Phone signal is up and down like a rollercoaster and wifi often doesn't reconnect after sleep
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how do you install this rom from the xda forum, do i need to install the full zip and the mirror? or just only choose one of them? ty
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