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Old January 12th, 2013, 10:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey lot,

I've recently rooted my phone, but it seems as a result (and I don't know if it's actually a direct cause, it's just happened after the root) that whenever I try and use the actual phone app to accept or make a phone call, it lags for about 30 seconds (screen goes black, but still see time bar). Weird thing, is that the calls do actually connect, because after the 30 seconds, either my voicemail has finished speaking, or I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone without even saying a word. None of my other apps seem to be affected.

Any advice? Can I "reimage" the phone, and try to root again?

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Hey lot,

I've recently rooted my phone, but it seems as a result (and I don't know if it's actually a direct cause, it's just happened after the root) that whenever I try and use the actual phone app to accept or make a phone call, it lags for about 30 seconds (screen goes black, but still see time bar). Weird thing, is that the calls do actually connect, because after the 30 seconds, either my voicemail has finished speaking, or I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone without even saying a word. None of my other apps seem to be affected.

Any advice? Can I "reimage" the phone, and try to root again?
what phone do you have? what recovery do you have? did you flash any roms?
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I'm fairly new to the game of this, so excuse my ignorance lol -- that being said, it wouldn't surprise me if I did something to affect it in this way.

I have a Galaxy S2 from Telus. I followed the instructions here so I guess I'm using Clockmod? And I didn't do anything further that I know of, so considering I don't know what "flashing any roms" means, I'm going to say no?

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ok so you have clockwork mod. before i go on let me make a disclaimer>>>>>>do not use rom manager(its an app in the play store). it is very buggy. i would do everything in recovery manually. never rely on an app to do what you can do manually.

ok now that is out of the way, i would try and wipe dalvik cache and cache in recovery. this usually fixes most small issues.
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ok so you have clockwork mod. before i go on let me make a disclaimer>>>>>>do not use rom manager(its an app in the play store). it is very buggy. i would do everything in recovery manually. never rely on an app to do what you can do manually.

ok now that is out of the way, i would try and wipe dalvik cache and cache in recovery. this usually fixes most small issues.
Does deleting the dalvik cache reset the phone to factory? I was following the instructions here. I just want to make sure before I go ahead with it.

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Where is dalvik cache? I cleared the "normal" cache, no luck.

Edit** I tried to clear is via Titanium backup, but I only currently have the free version. Is there a way otherwise?

Edit** I youtube a tutorial -- does deleting the dalvik cache reset the phone to factory? I was following the instructions here. I just want to make sure before I go ahead with it.

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in cwm i believe dalvik cache is found under advanced

with tb, i would only use it to back up and restore apps and data and maybe freeze a few things. i never rely on apps to do what recivery can do manually.

no dalvik cache will not do a factory restore. dalvik cache is only a place where temp files and data is stored.
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in cwm i believe dalvik cache is found under advanced

with tb, i would only use it to back up and restore apps and data and maybe freeze a few things. i never rely on apps to do what recivery can do manually.

no dalvik cache will not do a factory restore. dalvik cache is only a place where temp files and data is stored.
Frustratingly, it didn't solve my problem. I can access the app to dial (as I could before) but after I dial the number and hit send, the screen goes blank, and I can no longer access the keypad etc for about 20 seconds. Then it comes up, and everything functions as normal.

I made a crap video to show you (if it matters) what it's doing.

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Frustratingly, it didn't solve my problem. I can access the app to dial (as I could before) but after I dial the number and hit send, the screen goes blank, and I can no longer access the keypad etc for about 20 seconds. Then it comes up, and everything functions as normal.

I made a crap video to show you (if it matters) what it's doing.

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video is set to private....can't see it.
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video is set to private....can't see it.
Wow.. I'm on a roll apparently. Sorry, picked private instead of unlisted. It's open now..
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and this happened right after you rooted the phone? did you flash a rom? if so do you have a link?
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and this happened right after you rooted the phone? did you flash a rom? if so do you have a link?
Yep. I rooted on Dec 23rd, and I noticed it the next day, Dec 24. No, just stock, but I did install this one first though. It's the same "stock" rom for my Telus phone, but interestingly, one difference I noticed was that the rom on that link now allows me to turn off the shutter sound for the camera, but the one installed via Kies didn't (main reason I wanted to root anyway).

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what did you wipe when you flashed the rom? are you still on it?

edit: scratch that did you use odin? or recovery to flash the rom?

sorry i do not have your device, so.....
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what did you wipe when you flashed the rom? are you still on it?

edit: scratch that did you use odin? or recovery to flash the rom?

sorry i do not have your device, so.....
I used odin to flash.
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Was that before or after you rooted? If after, installing stock with Odin will unroot you.

If wiping the caches didn't fix your problem, have you tried a factory reset? Did you do a factory reset after you Odin'ed the stock rom? That's usually a necessity to clear up little bugs.
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If he flashed the rom that unrooted him, would he then have to follow this guide again to root, then stay on the stock, rooted rom or flash a rom in post # 3?
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If he flashed the rom that unrooted him, would he then have to follow this guide again to root, then stay on the stock, rooted rom or flash a rom in post # 3?
Telus Galaxy S2 (T989D) Ultimate Root and Optimization Guide with Steps

Yes, he would have to use that guide or this guide to reroot. As far as flashing roms, the S2X can flash any rom that my Tmo phone can like in Root Guide.
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Was that before or after you rooted? If after, installing stock with Odin will unroot you.

If wiping the caches didn't fix your problem, have you tried a factory reset? Did you do a factory reset after you Odin'ed the stock rom? That's usually a necessity to clear up little bugs.
I flashed prior to root. I had a feeling that a reset would be necessary unless someone could potentially fix this one. Anyway, for reset would I just use "Factory data reset" via settings? I'm guessing at that point, I will need to follow different directions to root again (Mikestony?)

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I flashed prior to root. I had a feeling that a reset would be necessary unless someone could potentially fix this one. Anyway, for reset would I just use "Factory data reset" via settings? I'm guessing at that point, I will need to follow different directions to root again (Mikestony?)

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If you rooted after you odin'ed the stock rom, you should still be rooted. An easy way to check is use Root Checker. If I remember right, its ok to factory reset from the reset option in the phone. On some phones if you're rooted, that can cause problems. To be on the safe side, go to recovery and wipe data/factory reset there and also format cache partition.

If you need to root again, you would do it the same way you did before.
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If you rooted after you odin'ed the stock rom, you should still be rooted. An easy way to check is use Root Checker. If I remember right, its ok to factory reset from the reset option in the phone. On some phones if you're rooted, that can cause problems. To be on the safe side, go to recovery and wipe data/factory reset there and also format cache partition.

If you need to root again, you would do it the same way you did before.
Thanks. I definitely know I'm rooted, as I can use rooted apps, but I'll cross my fingers and hope that the wipe will fix the issue and we'll go from there. I'll keep you posted.
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Well, isn't that a bitch. The factory reset didn't fix the problem. It still lags. Any ideas now? :P

**edit - actually, it seems after the reset via recovery, the phone is still rooted! And, maybe it's just me, but usually when you factory reset something, doesn't it revert back to the software version that came with the phone? After the reset, I'm still running 4.0.3 instead of Gingerbread. I don't get it...
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Well darn.

Try this. Download GooManager from the Play Store. After you install it, open it and tap your menu key. Select Install OpenRecoveryScript. Sometimes its hard to tell its doing anything. Give it a minute and it will install TWRP recovery. Reboot your phone and try a call again. See if that fixed the lag.

Also, go to recovery and do a backup with TWRP. TWRP and CWM don't read each other's recoveries.
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Well darn.

Try this. Download GooManager from the Play Store. After you install it, open it and tap your menu key. Select Install OpenRecoveryScript. Sometimes its hard to tell its doing anything. Give it a minute and it will install TWRP recovery. Reboot your phone and try a call again. See if that fixed the lag.

Also, go to recovery and do a backup with TWRP. TWRP and CWM don't read each other's recoveries.
It claimed no recovery's were available for my device?

OK, is there a way to unroot the phone, and restore it as it was prior? Because with this thing rooted, it's missing apps that I removed via Titanium Backup. I have some sort of feeling I messed it up by deleting something I shouldn't have....
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It claimed no recovery's were available for my device?

OK, is there a way to unroot the phone, and restore it as it was prior? Because with this thing rooted, it's missing apps that I removed via Titanium Backup. I have some sort of feeling I messed it up by deleting something I shouldn't have....

Ok, here's TWRP recovery. You just flash it in CWM recovery and reboot. If you're using an older CWM recovery, its possible it could cause some lag. Unlikely it would do it with just the phone but I'm not certain. You may have deleted some system app you need by mistake.

If you want to unroot, you would flash the stock rom with Odin like you did before. That will unroot you and also give you a stock recovery.
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Ok, here's TWRP recovery. You just flash it in CWM recovery and reboot. If you're using an older CWM recovery, its possible it could cause some lag. Unlikely it would do it with just the phone but I'm not certain. You may have deleted some system app you need by mistake.

If you want to unroot, you would flash the stock rom with Odin like you did before. That will unroot you and also give you a stock recovery.
Still lagging after TWRP. I'll try and flash the stock again. :/
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Alright! Flashing stock rom fixed the lag! NOW... should I try rooting again.....
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In my opinion, yes. Now you know what fixed it, if it happens again.
But why it happened, I don't know.
And perhaps try a different rom

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Yes, I would root.

Instead of installing the older CWM recovery with Odin, download this TWRP file and use Odin to install it like you would CWM. Then flash the superuser file and confirm you have root. Then go back to TWRP and do a backup.
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Knowing what fixes it is great, but I thought I deleted everything that was bloatware on the phone, so I guess I'll have to do some trial and error.

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I'm back

So, I tried to root the phone again, and CWM said the phone was rooted in recovery, but I don't have access. :s
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So, I tried to root the phone again, and CWM said the phone was rooted in recovery, but I don't have access. :s
So you used Odin to install cwm, then you flashed the superuser file? But an app says you don't have root?
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*touches nose* Exactly. What's up with that?
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Try flashing superuser again. Sometimes you have to go back and do it again.

Which guide are you using?

Also, I would recommend using the TWRP recovery if you're thinking about flashing ROM's. The newer jelly bean ROM's sometimes don't work well with the older version of CWM and you can get a boot loop after flashing.
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Try flashing superuser again. Sometimes you have to go back and do it again.

Which guide are you using?

Also, I would recommend using the TWRP recovery if you're thinking about flashing ROM's. The newer jelly bean ROM's sometimes don't work well with the older version of CWM and you can get a boot loop after flashing.
I'm using this guide. I don't understand -- I've done it a few times now, the root is just not clicking. Superuser appears, but no access.
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OK, I think that is an old superuser file that may not work with ICS. Try the superuser file in this guide.
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Damn dude you're good. Worked like a charm.
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OK, so it's back. I reviewed all apps through the provided link above prior to deleting them (to ensure I wasn't removing an imperative component.) It worked for a couple days, but today, it started to lag again.

After rooting, I did install a couple apps, I wonder if they caused it. AdAway and Beats Audio Installer.

Frustrating that it does this after I customize the phone again lol
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After rooting, I did install a couple apps, I wonder if they caused it. AdAway and Beats Audio Installer.
The only way to know for sure is uninstall them. I haven't tried Beats but I've never had a problem with AdAway.

If that doesn't fix it, maybe its something you are deleting. What link are you using to delete the bloat?
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The only way to know for sure is uninstall them. I haven't tried Beats but I've never had a problem with AdAway.

If that doesn't fix it, maybe its something you are deleting. What link are you using to delete the bloat?
I don't know if Beats can be uninstalled like the other apps, but I could be wrong. It is, however the only common link between the issue. I used a different ad-removal app prior. As for the link, I used the ones you suggested in your tutorial.

I'd give you the full list of bloatware I removed, but I didn't bother to back them up, given they were safe the remove. They included the usual's though, Email, Buddies Now, Telus House, AcuWeather, Kies Air, Mini Diary, Music Hub, Readers Hub, Samsung Apps, Social Hub, and a couple others I believe.
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Did you make a nandroid after you rooted? Before you installed apps?
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I read through the Beats Audio threa a little. It looks like someone made a flashable zip file to be able to uninstall it. Dev-Host - RemoveBeatsAudio.zip - The Ultimate Free File Hosting / File Sharing Service
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I read through the Beats Audio threa a little. It looks like someone made a flashable zip file to be able to uninstall it. Dev-Host - RemoveBeatsAudio.zip - The Ultimate Free File Hosting / File Sharing Service
Gr... I seem to have deleted everything on my SD card, I guess including my backups. What an idiot

I'm assuming I throw that zip onto the SD card, and install it via Recovery?
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Gr... I seem to have deleted everything on my SD card, I guess including my backups. What an idiot

I'm assuming I throw that zip onto the SD card, and install it via Recovery?
correct. a flashable .zip is flashed thru recovery. make sure to do a nandroid backup before flashing it just in case.
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correct. a flashable .zip is flashed thru recovery. make sure to do a nandroid backup before flashing it just in case.
I don't know if I'd have the patience of being a software tester lol - there are so many possibilities here. Removing it hasn't worked. I don't know if one of the rooted apps is causing it or if a "normal" app has caused it in combination of rooting. hmmmmm I guess it's back to flashing the stock again
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I don't know if I'd have the patience of being a software tester lol - there are so many possibilities here. Removing it hasn't worked. I don't know if one of the rooted apps is causing it or if a "normal" app has caused it in combination of rooting. hmmmmm I guess it's back to flashing the stock again
If you flash the stock, don't forget a nandroid after rooting. I would recommend using TWRP instead of the older CWM if you're still using it.

Also, bloat you're deleting. You might try using Titanium to freeze an app first to make sure it isn't causing the lag you're getting.
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If you flash the stock, don't forget a nandroid after rooting. I would recommend using TWRP instead of the older CWM if you're still using it.

Also, bloat you're deleting. You might try using Titanium to freeze an app first to make sure it isn't causing the lag you're getting.
I'll give TWRP a shot, but (as sad as it sounds) I don't have the $7ish bucks at the moment to buy the Pro version yet
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Pro version of what? TWRP recovery is free. Or if you prefer, there may be a zip of a newer CWM you could flash over the older version.
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i think he is talking about TB, titanium backup pro key

and i like twrp on my phone(evo 4g lte). its a great recovery.
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Pro version of what? TWRP recovery is free. Or if you prefer, there may be a zip of a newer CWM you could flash over the older version.
Sorry, pro version of TiBu. What's the benefit of using these other versions, though?
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Sorry, pro version of TiBu. What's the benefit of using these other versions, though?
Ahh .. ok I gotcha.

The newer recoveries work better. The older CWM has a chance of causing bootloops with the newer JB roms.
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Ahh .. ok I gotcha.

The newer recoveries work better. The older CWM has a chance of causing bootloops with the newer JB roms.
I'm running version 5.0.2.6 on my S2. What's the newest version?
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