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Old April 26th, 2011, 08:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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For the past 2 years Nintendo sales and profits have been falling whilst Xbox and Playstation remain steady.
but Nintendo still charges rediculous pricess unlike
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but Nintendo still charges rediculous pricess unlike
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I don't think I understand this comment, or perhaps it wa sarcasm (which I obviously missed). How is Nintendo charging ridiculous prices but not Sony and MS?
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I don't think I understand this comment, or perhaps it wa sarcasm (which I obviously missed). How is Nintendo charging ridiculous prices but not Sony and MS?
over here, a PS3 (w/ decent game) is available for €~50 more than a Wii ... same for XBox

Wii has crap Processors, OS, online, crap memory etc
PS3 has great online (I know, I know), 160GB 2.5" SATA HDD, Blu-Ray, Good OS etc
XBox has excellent online (paid), ok OS, mediocre memory etc
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Nintendo lost a valuable customer

Look up "Project Cafe".
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Look up "Project Cafe".
Interesting ... but I have a 16 month old PS3 that I intend to keep for 44 more... the Wii 2 will be barely more powerful, and will fail on the OS side judging by history

The 3DS was a big disappointment, the screen Res, processor, OS... and overpriced as usual

I hope they make something I want to buy
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I feel Nintendo has turned from superb games (NES,SNES,N64) to innovation. Motion controls for the Wii and 3D for the 3DS. And again for this "Wii 2". A touch screen on the controller? Another gaming gimmick. This sounds nerdy, but any true gamer just wants a solid console, normal controller, and good games and we're happy. We don't need this nonsense Nintendo is throwing at us.

A majority of Wii games I feel are only fun if you have friends over. There's a few like Galaxy that are fun on your own and such, but most are party games.

The Wii 2 may be more powerful than the current XBox and Playstation. However, the Wii 2 will initiate the next generation. I'm almost positive the new XBox (720?) and Playstation 4 will stomp the Wii 2 into the ground hardware wise just as the Wii 1 vs 360 and PS3.
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Interesting ... but I have a 16 month old PS3 that I intend to keep for 44 more... the Wii 2 will be barely more powerful, and will fail on the OS side judging by history

The 3DS was a big disappointment, the screen Res, processor, OS... and overpriced as usual

I hope they make something I want to buy
Not sure where you're getting barely more powerful than a PS3. Everything I've read has said "significantly more powerful".

Regardless, Zelda in 1080p is reason enough for me to buy whatever the Big N names the system.
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Not sure where you're getting barely more powerful than a PS3. Everything I've read has said "significantly more powerful".
Its at least as powerful as a 360 - which is less powerful than a PS3

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Regardless, Zelda in 1080p is reason enough for me to buy whatever the Big N names the system.
The exclusive titles is the big thing they have going for them
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Its at least as powerful as a 360 - which is less powerful than a PS3
Once again, I'm not sure where you're reading that. Here's the information I have:
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We know a great deal about Nintendo's hardware plans for Wii 2. The publisher is teaming with AMD for its graphics processor, developing a chip featuring a custom version of the R700 architecture. Cafe's CPU will be coming from IBM, this time a custom-built, triple-core IBM PowerPC chip.

Not sure what any of that means? All you really need to know is that Nintendo's new system will be more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. (We've been told "significantly" more powerful, though it's impossible to determine that at this point.) Project Cafe will be capable of supporting 1080p HD display as well as stereoscopic 3D, though we don't know if Nintendo plans to aggressively push 3D for its home console. (We're thinking it won't.)
Everything We Know About Wii 2 - Wii Feature at IGN

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This we can most definitely agree on.

We'll learn more at E3.
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Old April 28th, 2011, 05:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Are we bearing witness to the birth of PS3 and 360 FanBoys? It's a miricle, I tell you.
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I feel Nintendo has turned from superb games (NES,SNES,N64) to innovation. Motion controls for the Wii and 3D for the 3DS. And again for this "Wii 2". A touch screen on the controller? Another gaming gimmick. This sounds nerdy, but any true gamer just wants a solid console, normal controller, and good games and we're happy. We don't need this nonsense Nintendo is throwing at us.

A majority of Wii games I feel are only fun if you have friends over. There's a few like Galaxy that are fun on your own and such, but most are party games.

The Wii 2 may be more powerful than the current XBox and Playstation. However, the Wii 2 will initiate the next generation. I'm almost positive the new XBox (720?) and Playstation 4 will stomp the Wii 2 into the ground hardware wise just as the Wii 1 vs 360 and PS3.

While I agree with everything you said, I feel like I am a true gamer and I absolutely loved the VMU on the Dreamcast. Selecting my plays in NFL2K on the dl was great. I always hope something like that will make a reappearance, but I highly doubt Nintendo will get it right or have the right games.
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Are we bearing witness to the birth of PS3 and 360 FanBoys? It's a miricle, I tell you.
lol you should check other forums
btw I don't like PSp, and sometimes recommend XBox

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Once again, I'm not sure where you're reading that. Here's the information I have:

Everything We Know About Wii 2 - Wii Feature at IGN



This we can most definitely agree on.

We'll learn more at E3.
well maybe I'm reading wrong
Still my PS3 can output 720P HD - and its 05 tech
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well maybe I'm reading wrong
Still my PS3 can output 720P HD - and its 05 tech
All gaming consoles prior to the current gen ones only output standard def. So does that mean that the dreamcast wasn't more powerful than the NES since both outputs were standard def? Back in the 90s I could have said the video output was 70's or 80's tech, right?

HD is the current standard, and aside from 3D HD there isn't really anything on the horizon. The PS3 and XBOX may have had it at launch, but there still isn't really anything better, so of course we aren't going to see the next nintendo console trump them in those regards.
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All gaming consoles prior to the current gen ones only output standard def. So does that mean that the dreamcast wasn't more powerful than the NES since both outputs were standard def? Back in the 90s I could have said the video output was 70's or 80's tech, right?

HD is the current standard, and aside from 3D HD there isn't really anything on the horizon. The PS3 and XBOX may have had it at launch, but there still isn't really anything better, so of course we aren't going to see the next nintendo console trump them in those regards.
[I meant to say 720P 3D, limited by the cable]
Not in output sure, but in power
The question is if Nintendo will release a console unfit for its generations games again
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I think it more comes down to game loyalty. Nintendo has Mario, Metroid, Zelda. Many people will buy for those reasons. Where as Xbox has halo, and Gears and there are many people that will buy future systems just to play those games. Then you have the PS3 a very powerful system but many people bought it because it could play blu-ray disks and people said might as well get it because I will have to buy a blu-ray player sooner or later and cheaper (during the time) to buy the PS3 than a different game system and blu-ray player separate.

Many of your games are multi console so So really buying the best system isnt the point. I bought my 360 because of gears and halo. I could of bought a PS3 but why when the other games like mass effect and fallout are made for other systems as well. So I had no need for the PS3.

so for many its becoming more about a specific game than about a specific system. Sure they can put all the bells and whistles on a system but like Nintendo what sells their systems? Mario and Zelda.
 
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^Thats how I did when the Sega consoles and Nintendo console were the only systems around. Madden on Sega consoles played and looked alot better than on Nintendo's back then. Tecmo Bowl didnt come to Sega consoles until years later.

For some like me it was about a specific game way back then.

I have a Wii mainly for the exclusives. There are a few surprise gems I didnt expect. (one was some shadow game, cant remember the name)

With the PS3 and the 360 having motion controls now, the Wii's main claim to fame isnt gonna be so magical now. They need to compete on the same level as far as graphics now. Microsoft one upped them with the Kinect. I'm surprised Sony didnt do this first, they had the Eye Toy for the PS3. And it makes you wonder why they are doing motion controllers anyway.
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I could of bought a PS3 but why when the other games like mass effect and fallout are made for other systems as well. So I had no need for the PS3.
Little Big Planet!

But I largely agree with you. I enjoy having the 260 in the bedroom and the PS3 in the living room. I can stream to either TV, watch Netflix, and if there is that odd game that is console exclusive, well, I don't have to miss out on that either.

I will say it is quite ridiculous to be required to pay for XBOX live to use the Netflix service though...
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E3 2011: Playing the Wii U - Wii News at IGN

The next generation Nintendo console. If you thought Nintendo overcharged already, just look at that controller and wait to get your wallets robbed. That controller is probably going to cost more than the damned console does.
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Christ that's ugly

PlayStation Vita + PS3 = Wii U
Hopefully
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^^I wasnt feeling the Wii U big ass controller until I saw a clip of ways it can be used.

I am more intrigued now...

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Little Big Planet!

But I largely agree with you. I enjoy having the 260 in the bedroom and the PS3 in the living room. I can stream to either TV, watch Netflix, and if there is that odd game that is console exclusive, well, I don't have to miss out on that either.

I will say it is quite ridiculous to be required to pay for XBOX live to use the Netflix service though...
+1 for Little Big Planet...lol
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I got LBG yesterday
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I just wish they'd (Nintendo) give us a "regular" controller as well. At what point was it decided that a classic style controller isn't good enough? The reason I bought a Wii was because the controller was unique. The reason I don't play the Wii is because said controller doesn't very well lend itself to non party games.
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You can use a classic controller or GameCube controller
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Depends on the game. Most Wii games don't support that.
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Really? Here most of the Wii games are half the price of the Xbox of PS3 games.
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Really? Here most of the Wii games are half the price of the Xbox of PS3 games.
Most are barely cheaper here. More dev work put into PS3/360 games then Wii ones in general. And I was talking about consoles
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Most are barely cheaper here. More dev work put into PS3/360 games then Wii ones in general. And I was talking about consoles
That's a tough comparisson to make. More work (all over the board) generally goes into making a movie as well. Selling a single movie for $60 would be a hard sell, though. Items don;t necessarily sell based on the amount of work that goes into them. They sell based on what people will actually pay for them. If Nintendo can put less resources into a product that man view to be just as good (and for a while they did, perhaps not so much now), we tend to call them a successful business.

PS why did you change your name?
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That's a tough comparisson to make. More work (all over the board) generally goes into making a movie as well. Selling a single movie for $60 would be a hard sell, though. Items don;t necessarily sell based on the amount of work that goes into them. They sell based on what people will actually pay for them. If Nintendo can put less resources into a product that man view to be just as good (and for a while they did, perhaps not so much now), we tend to call them a successful business.

PS why did you change your name?
That a fair point. Actually now that you say that a good game should get more sales in the first place. Same goes for movies I guess.
Well they were successful for a time with their strategy, and got a big cash pile out of it. They arent providing essential goods/services either so I´m not saying the government should step in
Still I´d say they were charging a fair bit more then the product is worth

Oh i changed it cos I never liked the ninty bit
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Really? Here most of the Wii games are half the price of the Xbox of PS3 games.
Except for their first party stuff that remains at top price years after they come out. Mario Kart comes to mind. That game is still running for $50, even the versions without the wheel. Their third party stuff is cheap, but nobody wants that crap anyway.
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Well you've said it in one. Crap :-) Nintendo's games are good quality and they charge what people will pay for them!

A bit like Apple I suppose, but Apple are growing and Nintendo are not.
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