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Old June 12th, 2011, 08:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Battlefield 3 Limited Edition: Physical Warfare Pack Available Exclusively For Pre-Order

Because EA and DICE have decided to be greedy and ruin this promising game, I will be boycotting purchasing it until this is changed. Offering early access, giving the weapons early or special skins for weapons I am fine with. But making the weapons/items EXCLUSIVE to only pre-order games is crossing the line. The unlocks have to be made available to everyone eventually.

This is an example of content rape. Sacrifice content for stupid stupid marketing campaign to raise a couple more bucks. This is not acceptable!!!!!!

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It's an LMG and a shotgun. I doubt either will be even that good. They're not giving a laser beam cannon that instantly kills the entire team in one shot.

And what is this exactly? A DLC pack, or simply if you pre-order and you get a bonus two guns extra?

If it's a DLC, then meh tons of games do exclusive extras you have to pay for.

If it's a preorder, then there's no big deal at all. It won't earn them an extra buck. People who were going to buy the game anyways still would've, they'll just pre-order it now instead of picking it up a few days after it comes out. Either way they'll still pay the $60 for the game, just a matter of sooner or later.
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It's an LMG and a shotgun. I doubt either will be even that good. They're not giving a laser beam cannon that instantly kills the entire team in one shot.

And what is this exactly? A DLC pack, or simply if you pre-order and you get a bonus two guns extra?

If it's a DLC, then meh tons of games do exclusive extras you have to pay for.

If it's a preorder, then there's no big deal at all. It won't earn them an extra buck. People who were going to buy the game anyways still would've, they'll just pre-order it now instead of picking it up a few days after it comes out. Either way they'll still pay the $60 for the game, just a matter of sooner or later.
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Me thinks nobody actually read the article or comments.

  • 1 Exclusive weapon
  • 1 Early access weapon
  • 1 Exclusive weapon mod
  • 1 Exclusive ammo type

If you pre-order the more expensive Limited edition BF3, all these wonderful items can be yours. Never to be seen or used by me who just pays for the normal version of the game.

I am all for limited editions of games. Halo Reach was a prime example. They did it the right way.

DLC's are one thing. Stripping game content then selling it to us is another. Personally, I just can not support that.

Funny enough, EA has now disabled comments in the thread posted in the OP after being BLASTED by the gaming community.
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  • 1 Exclusive weapon
  • 1 Early access weapon
  • 1 Exclusive weapon mod
  • 1 Exclusive ammo type

If you pre-order the more expensive Limited edition BF3, all these wonderful items can be yours. Never to be seen or used by me who just pays for the normal version of the game.

I am all for limited editions of games. Halo Reach was a prime example. They did it the right way.

DLC's are one thing. Stripping game content then selling it to us is another. Personally, I just can not support that.

Funny enough, EA has now disabled comments in the thread posted in the OP after being BLASTED by the gaming community.
I still don't care lol. It's not going to make or break me purchasing the game just because a few ppl get an extra gun/ammo type/etc..

It's still going to be the best shooter available and a likely GoTY candidate.
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Me thinks nobody actually read the article or comments.

  • 1 Exclusive weapon
  • 1 Early access weapon
  • 1 Exclusive weapon mod
  • 1 Exclusive ammo type

If you pre-order the more expensive Limited edition BF3, all these wonderful items can be yours. Never to be seen or used by me who just pays for the normal version of the game.

I am all for limited editions of games. Halo Reach was a prime example. They did it the right way.

DLC's are one thing. Stripping game content then selling it to us is another. Personally, I just can not support that.

Funny enough, EA has now disabled comments in the thread posted in the OP after being BLASTED by the gaming community.
I think you mis-understood. It says "Players can storm the battlefield armed with powerful weapons and items only available in the Physical Warfare Pack". It says nothing about it not being available to anybody playing the normal version of the game. The way I read it is, if you buy the limited edition, you get the warfare pack for free. I'm almost 100% sure that the Physical warfare pack will be available as DLC for everybody at some point in time.

I could be wrong but as it has been mentioned, I don't think it's a big deal.
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Yeah, not really anything to worry about IMO. I pre-ordered the limited edition the day the announcement was made, not because I get DAO flachette ammo, but because this game is going to be amazing. And I wanted to make sure I get the back to karkand pack. Strike at Karkand is going to be awesome on Frostbite 2!
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I have all this pre-ordered direct from EA. It costs a little bit more but Battlefield games have always been of an exceptional standard that deserves my money and time.

Besides I'm a sniper and don't give a toss about a mounted light machine gun.

Remember Crysis 2 gave you 5 levels from the get go if you pre ordered. Unfortunately this was overshadowed by the fact it was a mediocre game.
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i hope youre not a COD Black Ops player... u can play all the past zombie boards (if u previously purchased them) with a preordered disk. or something like that.
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Anyone that says they are a FPS fan and prefers CoD over Battlefield, really isn't that much of a FPS fan.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 09:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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bam! see what i did there?
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Is putting five dollars down ahead of time that big of a hassle? I mean, you'll need to spend that money on the game eventually.
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Half of the guns I've hardly even used in BC2 for anything more than a bronze star simply to finish that "achievement"

there will be nothing game breaking about anything they are offering in the pre-order, I think bc2 got the shotgun right from the start, and maybe something else.. can't remember, and it was a non-issue
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Is putting five dollars down ahead of time that big of a hassle? I mean, you'll need to spend that money on the game eventually.
Ya at least it is just for preorder, NCAA football makes you actually pay for some new features. lol
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You are already getting the back to karkand pack just for buying the game, which is a free map pack. Something COD will never do. Also the fact that the guns they are giving away are not deal breakers. Probably the worst lmg in the game along with a crappy shotgun. I also think you misinterpret the "exclusive" part. They are exclusive to those two retailers stated in the UK. Nothing has been said about US pre-order bonuses and dice would also not give away something that cannot be unlocked later in the game. Overreaction by the OP. Wait for the US bonuses to be announced to see what they will be giving away and be happy you get four of the greatest maps of all time just for buying the game.
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It ain't that bad. WHen the first expansion pack came out for BF2, everyone who bought it could use the weapons in normal BF2. I just asked a friend to sign onto my account with the expansion and get me one weapon. Infact, all weapons were unlocked. Huge glitch to my advantage. Something tells me that there will be a bug sometime or later that will allow everyone to use it.
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Now that is FANTASTIC, sign me up baby. Ive been holding out on pre order to see what everyones preorder specials will be. Muzzle flash suppressor, that is wonderfull indeed.
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Battlefield 3 Limited Edition: Physical Warfare Pack Available Exclusively For Pre-Order

Because EA and DICE have decided to be greedy and ruin this promising game, I will be boycotting purchasing it until this is changed. Offering early access, giving the weapons early or special skins for weapons I am fine with. But making the weapons/items EXCLUSIVE to only pre-order games is crossing the line. The unlocks have to be made available to everyone eventually.

This is an example of content rape. Sacrifice content for stupid stupid marketing campaign to raise a couple more bucks. This is not acceptable!!!!!!

G f'ing G
At our GameStops, you can usually get the pre-order stuff even if you didn't pre-order the game. I assume that's not on every game and here's my assumption:
On some of the games I got like 2 days-2 weeks after launch, I picked up the game without ever pre-ordering it. On the package it said all that mumbo jumbo about what to expect if you pre-ordered the game...well inside, it still had the stuff in it!

I assume that this is because they didn't sell all of their pre-order copies they ordered. So naturally it came back on us.

But really, this isn't something to get worked up about. Actually, pre-ordering isn't bad at all! It's actually better, even though I don't do it and loathe when they ask me if I'd like to pre-order, as you can set $5 down on the game, come back next paycheck, and put more money down, do over again instead of shelling out an entire $80 on the same day. And if you don't mind that, you can pay that $80 all before launch and still get it!

I only pre-ordered one game and that was the recent and canceled True Crime. GameStop was really cool and told me I could get my cash back or use it for store credit. Naturally, I just took my cash back.
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$80 for what game?
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$80 for what game?
I was using an example for say if you wanted to get the ultimate special edition pack...you know, like the ones that have the extra figurines and extra stuff...isn't the pack that OP was talking about a deluxe version that typically costs more?
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Thats nothing. MW3 is apparenlty going to charge a monthly fee for playing. It'll still be free multiplayer but if your not paying how much is going to be stripped out of the free version.

CoD should have the boycott
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Thats nothing. MW3 is apparenlty going to charge a monthly fee for playing. It'll still be free multiplayer but if your not paying how much is going to be stripped out of the free version.

CoD should have the boycott


Source? Xbox players are gonna love that
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Thats nothing. MW3 is apparenlty going to charge a monthly fee for playing. It'll still be free multiplayer but if your not paying how much is going to be stripped out of the free version.

CoD should have the boycott
Yeah...I'd like to see that source too...CoD is popular, but I seriously doubt they would start charging as that would drive away people from their popular product. If anything, they may do something like Homefront and charge people by giving them a card and only being able to play for a certain amount of time. Both ideas are pretty crap and I hope they don't adopt either. I traded some guy on Craigslist my Homefront copy for his Brink copy and felt bad that he'd have to pay to play online since I used it which really sucks and shouldn't be allowed especially when people, like us on Xbox, are already paying a monthly/yearly/etc. fee to get online on top of our internet service fees.
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I traded some guy on Craigslist my Homefront copy for his Brink copy and felt bad that he'd have to pay to play online since I used it which really sucksfees.
hehe , I bet he thought you were getting the raw end of the deal there
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Battlefield 3 Limited Edition: Physical Warfare Pack Available Exclusively For Pre-Order

Because EA and DICE have decided to be greedy and ruin this promising game, I will be boycotting purchasing it until this is changed. Offering early access, giving the weapons early or special skins for weapons I am fine with. But making the weapons/items EXCLUSIVE to only pre-order games is crossing the line. The unlocks have to be made available to everyone eventually.

This is an example of content rape. Sacrifice content for stupid stupid marketing campaign to raise a couple more bucks. This is not acceptable!!!!!!

G f'ing G
I agree, it doesn't matter what the content is, it isn't right. I didnt know george foreman was preorder only with fight night champion, I've been playing since original knockout kings, and feel screwed, I bought it launch day. My 60 dollars cost the same as your pre-order 60 dollars. Those of you that dont agree is what is wrong with this country. Plain and simple. I dont care if its just a hat on the game character, its principle. fascist america sucks dick.
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hehe , I bet he thought you were getting the raw end of the deal there
IDK, both games were pretty awful. I'd prefer Brink over Homefront though, that was the biggest pile of shit I've wasted money on.


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I agree, it doesn't matter what the content is, it isn't right. I didnt know george foreman was preorder only with fight night champion, I've been playing since original knockout kings, and feel screwed, I bought it launch day. My 60 dollars cost the same as your pre-order 60 dollars. Those of you that dont agree is what is wrong with this country. Plain and simple. I dont care if its just a hat on the game character, its principle. fascist america sucks dick.
Rewarding people for supporting the company before the game out is making you rage? You know, as far as retail stores go, it helps get the right amount shipped to you on launch day + extras for non pre-orders. If I know I want a game, I pre-order it so I can pre-load or make sure I get it day one. If I get a little extra for doing so, I take it as a thank you for believing in us here is a token of our appreciation.
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IDK, both games were pretty awful. I'd prefer Brink over Homefront though, that was the biggest pile of shit I've wasted money on.
lol yeah, that's true. Well Brink isn't too bad, Homefront was just awful. The controls and graphics pissed me off the most and I bet it was due to so much hype and this being the final result. Also it being so much like CoD pissed me off too cause I hate games that just copy another for the sole purpose of making money and when they don't do anything different in terms of being better.
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E3 2011: Call of Duty's Elite Subscription Plan - Xbox 360 Preview at IGN

Here is the link, Pay for MW3 online exclusive bits.
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Here is the link, Pay for MW3 online exclusive bits.

Pay for something that is already avalible (and not just some gun)
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I have preorder the game and am glad to be getting the bonus content.

I also am an alpha tester on the game and I have to tell that it is amazing. That have mad great leaps in ever category. I don't know how much I can say, but don't boycott what could be the best FPS of all time.

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I have preorder the game and am glad to be getting the bonus content.

I also am an alpha tester on the game and I have to tell that it is amazing. That have mad great leaps in ever category. I don't know how much I can say, but don't boycott what could be the best FPS of all time.

just my thoughts.
Deffo not,

Will be pre-ordering as soon as I get paid. Was a CoD man but bored of them.
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I pre-ordered about a month ago and can't wait.
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I have preorder the game and am glad to be getting the bonus content.

I also am an alpha tester on the game and I have to tell that it is amazing. That have mad great leaps in ever category. I don't know how much I can say, but don't boycott what could be the best FPS of all time.

just my thoughts.

I disagree with that they have made great leaps in every category, and until i see the 64 man conquest, I can't say it'll be better than bf2 ... but it is pretty damn good

i like the map for the most part that we played, but the MOH mechanics suck
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I never really understood the whole boycott thing.. Especially with something like a video game.. I mean i know people who don't buy sports games because of the player they stick on the cover.. It just makes your the idiot without a great game in the end....
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you guys see the lens flare on snipers for BF3?

YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i heard there is a fix in the making........ God i hope so. it looks like theyre wearing miners hats!
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YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i heard there is a fix in the making........ God i hope so. it looks like theyre wearing miners hats!
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Battlefield 3 for PC will require Origin - News at GameSpot

Unlike some games, which you don't HAVE to get Steam for or other clients, for BF3 you WILL have to get Origin.
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And here's where my intense love of DICE comes into direct conflict with my hatred of EA. DICE is making an epic awesome game but EA is messing it up with stupid stuff like this. PC games are already nearly a memory and EA's BS isn't helping.
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Awesome, now I'll have Origin just for BF3 and Steam for everything else. Thanks for being so greedy EA that you couldn't suffer that small cut Valve took on Steam, even though you have a monopoly on Sport games and are way bigger than Valve.

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Still going to be an awesome game.
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Just found out this is NOT getting local multiplayer option, meaing if me and my boy want to play together I'll have to get 2 copies?? May have to get MW3??
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Awesome, now I'll have Origin just for BF3 and Steam for everything else. Thanks for being so greedy EA that you couldn't suffer that small cut Valve took on Steam, even though you have a monopoly on Sport games and are way bigger than Valve.

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Well EA/Dice is claiming that Steam makes it difficult to update the game which is why they are going Origin only, besides the fact that the game will not have an in game server browser or menu.

BF3 will launch from a web page, as they are trying to turn the game into a social experience, which I find stupid, because COD kiddies like to DDOS BF stuff.
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Last I heard, the Physical Warfare pack will be FREE for everyone at some point. People who pre-order the game will get it early, everyone else will have to wait a couple months to get it. However DICE wants it to be FREE.


DICE has NEVER wanted their DLC to cost money, they dont believe it should. Its EA that sometimes changes that idea. However, the last I heard, the Physical Warfare pack will be free for everyone, just pre-orders get it early.


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http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/713749/battlefield-3-physical-warfare-dlc-pack-free-for-everyone/
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