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Old March 8th, 2011, 09:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Theres a few Tablets/Pads that will available with Android 3 Honeycomb, and my main question is: ~Are there plans to make "Apps for Android" or other development tools for applications and multimedia creations available on tablets that run Android Honeycomb?~

I'm looking for a Tablet that students could use not only to read school manuals and watch lectures/presentations/documentaries, but also to create multimedia content such as a touch enabled magazine, multimedia applications, or web sites, so a tablet thats also a tool to create its own content. The iPad has many qualities but theres no indication the SDK will be able to run on the device for which it creates apps(iPad) and was wondering is there were alternatives to a windows based tablet (since windows OS can run many development and multimedia creation environment, though maybe not open/free nor cheap for students or all that easy to use)

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Many Android app developers are looking to develop their apps for tablets. Existing Android apps will, for the most part, run on Android tablets... they simply won't be optimized for that platform.
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Many, many apps not "designed for" tablets work fine. My e-Readers work fine. My news readers do. The Google Apps do. Many launchers have settings to tweak to work better on tablets. Games are hit or miss.

I'm not really sure where the "Only 100 tablet apps" comes from. Just because something isn't written for a specific device/OS combo doesn't mean there are not apps for it.
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100 apps that only run on tablets...
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100 apps that only run on tablets...
Well, then that's just a silly argument then to use. Why would anyone write an app that can only run on a tablet? That's like writing an app that can only run on an nVidia graphics card...
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Well, then that's just a silly argument then to use. Why would anyone write an app that can only run on a tablet? That's like writing an app that can only run on an nVidia graphics card...
Some apps require a lot of screen real estate in order for it to be fully utilized (ie desktop publishing, full feature photoshop). In those cases, you may only want to create an app for tablet. I suppose you can create a phone version for those applications, but it will be very limited and it might not be worth the effort to create.
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Well, then that's just a silly argument then to use. Why would anyone write an app that can only run on a tablet? That's like writing an app that can only run on an nVidia graphics card...

???

look at the form factors....size.
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Some apps require a lot of screen real estate in order for it to be fully utilized (ie desktop publishing, full feature photoshop). In those cases, you may only want to create an app for tablet. I suppose you can create a phone version for those applications, but it will be very limited and it might not be worth the effort to create.
A good programmer always relies on "graceful fallback", and never "It wont work".

Not enough real estate? Fall back to a minimal UI.

But in reality, who would try to do full-feature photoshop on a tablet? Or, even desktop publishing? Tablets are largely media consumption and not content creation apps.

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look at the form factors....size.
And? Anyone ever thought we'd browse the web on a 3.2" screen? Again, graceful fall-back.
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the more you program into your phone ... to adapt for all situations.. the bigger the app gets.

I want quality .. not redundant large programing.

it is better to create an app for a tablet .. and one for a phone.
that might make each more fictional for each situation.
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the more you program into your phone ... to adapt for all situations.. the bigger the app gets.

I want quality .. not redundant large programing.

it is better to create an app for a tablet .. and one for a phone.
that might make each more fictional for each situation.
Eh, I guess I can see that... Two apps. But, as a developer (Or a person trying to make money by selling apps), I'd want to make sure I get to as many hands as I can. And, I would do that by making two UI's (Not really all that much extra coding), or as you suggest, make two apps.
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A good programmer always relies on "graceful fallback", and never "It wont work".
I don't think I'm sticking my neck out by saying that a large number of Android apps are not written by good programmers.
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I don't think I'm sticking my neck out by saying that a large number of Android apps are not written by good programmers.
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Eh, I guess I can see that... Two apps. But, as a developer (Or a person trying to make money by selling apps), I'd want to make sure I get to as many hands as I can. And, I would do that by making two UI's (Not really all that much extra coding), or as you suggest, make two apps.
to take your concern... about sales...

2 apps .. more sales.. ( sucks but true)
you have a phone and a tablet... you love app "x" and need it on both.

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thanks for the response, however I think my question was misunderstood

Can you create apps from or on an Android 3 tablet. Can a student that gets an Android 3 Tablet write code in SDK and create apps for the very tablet he's using? (or would he need a notebook for the SDK to be used, in which case the notebook could not be replaced and would remain the device of choice to both design and use multimedia content)

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A good programmer always relies on "graceful fallback", and never "It wont work".

Not enough real estate? Fall back to a minimal UI.

But in reality, who would try to do full-feature photoshop on a tablet? Or, even desktop publishing? Tablets are largely media consumption and not content creation apps.
I agree, if the app can be used equally well (in different ways of course) on a phone and on a tablet, then it would make sense to code for both. What I'm saying is, there may be some applications that just won't work well or it defeats the purpose of the app when it is on a phone.

You might scoff at the idea now, but tablets may be the future to content creation. Also there are niche apps that are made for certain professions that may only be used on tablet (like apps for doctor or engineer) .

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Can you imagine imovie or garageband on a phone? Sure, you can dumb down the UI and severely limit the functionalities for a phone, but then the app it's not really imovie or garageband anymore, it will be just a basic video or music editor.
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I agree, if the app can be used equally well (in different ways of course) on a phone and on a tablet, then it would make sense to code for both. What I'm saying is, there may be some applications that just won't work well or it defeats the purpose of the app when it is on a phone.
Yeah, I get your point now.

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You might scoff at the idea now, but tablets may be the future to content creation. Also there are niche apps that are made for certain professions that may only be used on tablet (like apps for doctor or engineer) .

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Can you imagine imovie or garageband on a phone? Sure, you can dumb down the UI and severely limit the functionalities for a phone, but then the app it's not really imovie or garageband anymore, it will be just a basic video or music editor.
I get the niche market idea (X ray imaging, etc). But using it for content creation? No, I could never do serious work (In content creation) on a 10" display. I'll hazard that's about as big as tablet will get. Any bigger, and they are now LCD televisions lol
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thanks for the response, however I think my question was misunderstood

Can you create apps from or on an Android 3 tablet. Can a student that gets an Android 3 Tablet write code in SDK and create apps for the very tablet he's using? (or would he need a notebook for the SDK to be used, in which case the notebook could not be replaced and would remain the device of choice to both design and use multimedia content)

hope its more clear

thanks again
You could do app design on a tablet. It would be painful. And slow.

Development requires a full dev studio (Eclipse, etc). On the tablets (Currently) you would need to use a text editor to do the coding work.

Doable, but painful. Until someone ports Eclipse, or builds a dev studio for Android.
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You could do a lot more on a tablet...if it had a stylus.
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You could do a lot more on a tablet...if it had a stylus.
Capacitive stylus are already availbale. I don't know how accurate they are thouogh.
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