Hey Stane1983,
logcat of netflix doing nothin. no audio no video. timer runs funny. it looks almost like it loads right from my logcat, but it doesn't.
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Stane, im just trying to help both myself and the development. I do know what 3d chainfire and busybox stand for, so that was why i installed it 1st, to see the box's reaction. I will never blame anyone if my box becomes a paper weight. I will just buy a new one. I like playing with this box and i want more on your rom, even if my device is not the target of your development. Since grindinonyourm was able to install chainfire, i believe that my problems was to install busybox on same reboot, so i will try chainfire again now. I think that its a great software to test out our GPU capability.
Something i would like to point out, if you fresh install the rom and dont start superuser at least once, you cant use it, it says your not rooted, it happened everytime for me.
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As for netflix... im not even gonna get into testing. I have 5 android devices which i mess with them all, and their roms always have netflix problem... i gave up on that. Problem is like 99% not related to your rom, as netflix is indeed a very problematic app.
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Now im doing titanium backup after each app installed LOL.
I just installed 3d chainfire and it worked, i guess busybox is currently the only bricker. Does your ATV-108 have a GPU Mali-400 too? Im testing games now.
Stane, im just trying to help both myself and the development. I do know what 3d chainfire and busybox stand for, so that was why i installed it 1st, to see the box's reaction. I will never blame anyone if my box becomes a paper weight. I will just buy a new one. I like playing with this box and i want more on your rom, even if my device is not the target of your development. Since grindinonyourm was able to install chainfire, i believe that my problems was to install busybox on same reboot, so i will try chainfire again now. I think that its a great software to test out our GPU capability.
Something i would like to point out, if you fresh install the rom and dont start superuser at least once, you cant use it, it says your not rooted, it happened everytime for me.
Yes, you should start superuser at least once... That's ok
Now im doing titanium backup after each app installed LOL.
I just installed 3d chainfire and it worked, i guess busybox is currently the only bricker. Does your ATV-108 have a GPU Mali-400 too? Im testing games now.
As Stane mentioned... busybox from Market or any other source will not work correctly... Amlogic made custom/modified busybox that work on Amlogic platform.
Most likely issues you had with mouse pointer was because of busybox you downloaded from market (or any other source)... and that's why we were unable to reproduce that behaviour.
My suggestion (and Stane's too) is: do NOT change system files and do NOT install any app that compromises system stability/change system files etc... in short - avoid installing apps or modifing system that needs root access if you don't know what you're really doing.
Stane, im just trying to help both myself and the development. I do know what 3d chainfire and busybox stand for, so that was why i installed it 1st, to see the box's reaction. I will never blame anyone if my box becomes a paper weight. I will just buy a new one. I like playing with this box and i want more on your rom, even if my device is not the target of your development. Since grindinonyourm was able to install chainfire, i believe that my problems was to install busybox on same reboot, so i will try chainfire again now. I think that its a great software to test out our GPU capability.
Something i would like to point out, if you fresh install the rom and dont start superuser at least once, you cant use it, it says your not rooted, it happened everytime for me.
About superuser, I wrote about it in this thread before, I forgot to mention it as a note in every fw upgrade
So, Superuser needs to be started after fresh rom install to work Didn't pay much attention to it why is that needed but will investigate eventually
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Now im doing titanium backup after each app installed LOL.
I just installed 3d chainfire and it worked, i guess busybox is currently the only bricker. Does your ATV-108 have a GPU Mali-400 too? Im testing games now.
Yes, Mali-400 GPU is on both ATV-108 devices (c03ref and f16ref)
As for netflix... im not even gonna get into testing. I have 5 android devices which i mess with them all, and their roms always have netflix problem... i gave up on that. Problem is like 99% not related to your rom, as netflix is indeed a very problematic app.
Yeah, especially for ICS... It's visible even in logcat, netflix app is doing some hacks to display overlay on ICS...
and im not sure, but it looks like netflix uses the native player on amlogic platform, silverlight on windows platforms, flash on other platforms, maybe even voodo or magic on others. talk about fragmented.
these guys somehow have netflix and allot of other stuff working on geniatech...same proc as ours. worth looking into.
also, Stane1983, i must say, yer kernel runs top notch! quite quick. very nice. cant wait to get my ir remote control function back. i have no way of powering on without it. i use a program called screen off and lock. its nice for one button on screen sleep function. does little animation before power off too. i add an .ogg file to yer rom for the sound effect too. but without ir remote, i can never power back on. usb turns off in standby so keyboard wont wake device, only power cycle by unplugging and reboot brings it back.
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and im not sure, but it looks like netflix uses the native player on amlogic platform, silverlight on windows platforms, flash on other platforms, maybe even voodo or magic on others. talk about fragmented.
these guys somehow have netflix and allot of other stuff working on geniatech...same proc as ours. worth looking into.
also, Stane1983, i must say, yer kernel runs top notch! quite quick. very nice. cant wait to get my ir remote control function back. i have no way of powering on without it. i use a program called screen off and lock. its nice for one button on screen sleep function. does little animation before power off too. i add an .ogg file to yer rom for the sound effect too. but without ir remote, i can never power back on. usb turns off in standby so keyboard wont wake device, only power cycle by unplugging and reboot brings it back.
We have same situation with usb rf remote... it's on our todo list (high priority)
I installed the Chainfire 3d in the ATV and it works , so i installed a couple of games:
Reckless Racing --> It Rocks!
Reckless Getaway --> It Rocks!
Machinarium --> It's a shame, but the APK is for Galaxy Note, so the screen is vertical. Anyone know if exists any software to reverse the screen?
FIFA 12 --> Not Works!
Real Footbal 2012 --> Not Works
But... my real surprise was when i plugged in my wireless Xbox Joystick! It was recognized by the ATV and i was able to command my ATV remote!!! Try It.
I installed the Chainfire 3d in the ATV and it works , so i installed a couple of games:
Reckless Racing --> It Rocks!
Reckless Getaway --> It Rocks!
Machinarium --> It's a shame, but the APK is for Galaxy Note, so the screen is vertical. Anyone know if exists any software to reverse the screen?
FIFA 12 --> Not Works!
Real Footbal 2012 --> Not Works
But... my real surprise was when i plugged in my wireless Xbox Joystick! It was recognized by the ATV and i was able to command my ATV remote!!! Try It.
I will update my post when I install more games
Sorry for my English. I'm from Argentina!
Yes, I added support for xbox gamepads to kernel, as suggested on this thread
dont follow the instructions that come with SDTOOL too closely. this can be confusing. do what the pdf say only replace the files it has listed with the ones for stanes firmware and don't put them in a folder called 'UpdateKit', just drop them on the root of the sd card. but follow the pdf for everything else. format to fat32, use card to burn uboot to sd card, eject, reinsert, copy firmware files to root of sd card and put sd card in ATV, then push reset button and plug in power. hold reset for 3 light blinks then let go and watch update.
do it again....first time overwrites a new bootloader onto device so that recovery mode will even work, second time will run update properly because you now have good bootloader...do the whole update process again. and maybe try a smaller sd card. no sdhc.
UPDATE: machinarium plays great...i installed chainfire3d, we will see if i need it for some games...i also installed the 3 plugins it needs for other graphics chips..
you need to put firmware files on sd card root and reboot with sd card inserted and hold down reset button while plugging in. it will then update automatically. please read through this thread and get familiar.
1. You forgot to add permissions. Tunein Radio app still not displayed in PlayStore.
2. SPB TV app - The picture is not synchronized with sound. Something with codecs.
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Originally Posted by LeftyVz
As Stane mentioned... busybox from Market or any other source will not work correctly... Amlogic made custom/modified busybox that work on Amlogic platform.
Most likely issues you had with mouse pointer was because of busybox you downloaded from market (or any other source)... and that's why we were unable to reproduce that behaviour.
My suggestion (and Stane's too) is: do NOT change system files and do NOT install any app that compromises system stability/change system files etc... in short - avoid installing apps or modifing system that needs root access if you don't know what you're really doing.
I dont think you are correct about the cursor replacement problem. Although i did have the problem when i updated busybox, me and grindinonyourm had this problem several times while installing or using non root aplications such as browser and stuff. Also, busybox gave me the cursor problems but also bricked the device to black screen and on all the other times i had the cursor problem, i was able to use the system without any problems.
Other than that, im glad we are all testing 3d chainfire. I do want to find out a way to get the remote working, probably after you move the remote.conf out of the kernel. my system is working fine now and im gonna test XBOX controllers and other USB gamepads.
@leoandroid what do you mean about the xbox wireless controller? you mean the USB windows adapter to get the xbox controller running on windows?
Stane, if there are any BT dongle chipset that should work, let me know... i wanna try to test pairing with audio and ps3 and wii controller.
Another question, about the ATV. I have sound and video while in HDMI and have Video while in video component cable. For some reason i have no sound, im not sure if its because i cant change the volume or if its the kernel not compatible with my box. Do you guys have sound while not connected using HDMI?
I dont think you are correct about the cursor replacement problem. Although i did have the problem when i updated busybox, me and grindinonyourm had this problem several times while installing or using non root aplications such as browser and stuff. Also, busybox gave me the cursor problems but also bricked the device to black screen and on all the other times i had the cursor problem, i was able to use the system without any problems.
Other than that, im glad we are all testing 3d chainfire. I do want to find out a way to get the remote working, probably after you move the remote.conf out of the kernel. my system is working fine now and im gonna test XBOX controllers and other USB gamepads.
@leoandroid what do you mean about the xbox wireless controller? you mean the USB windows adapter to get the xbox controller running on windows?
Stane, if there are any BT dongle chipset that should work, let me know... i wanna try to test pairing with audio and ps3 and wii controller.
Another question, about the ATV. I have sound and video while in HDMI and have Video while in video component cable. For some reason i have no sound, im not sure if its because i cant change the volume or if its the kernel not compatible with my box. Do you guys have sound while not connected using HDMI?
About BT, none of BT drivers are included in current kernel build, will add it for testing purposes and see how it goes...
About not having audio on component out, don't know what to say except that cable could be the problem. With my ATV-108 c03ref came low quality cable and I experience video signal problems. Will test with another cable and get back to you...
On the other hand, there are couple drivers available to build with kernel (depends on audio system). ATV-108 uses built-in M1 reference board audio dsp and that's the only audio driver installed with fw. But if you have audio on HDMI, you should have it on component output....
@stane,
when will be ready for download your new firmware for f16ref board and which fix and update will be included? A/v out issue and iPazz Port or remote switch standby/on/off are solved?
Thanks in advance.
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About BT, none of BT drivers are included in current kernel build, will add it for testing purposes and see how it goes...
About not having audio on component out, don't know what to say except that cable could be the problem. With my ATV-108 c03ref came low quality cable and I experience video signal problems. Will test with another cable and get back to you...
On the other hand, there are couple drivers available to build with kernel (depends on audio system). ATV-108 uses built-in M1 reference board audio dsp and that's the only audio driver installed with fw. But if you have audio on HDMI, you should have it on component output....
I dont think its related to the cable, since im not using the cable that i got from DX and it used to work perfectly before upgrade. I do have to turn volume really high on my monitor to get some sound on the HDMI connection. I will test yet another cable and see how it goes. Im not in a hurry for any feature, but let me know about BT and and remote because i do want to help on testing. I am with my son this weekend but will really stress out this GPU on 3d chainfire on monday, to see what this box is capable of. I have a remote.conf from a similar box which SEEMS to have the power button working while using your rom. If that is the case, i will start some work from there once you move it to /system.
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For some reason my WiFi is not starting any suggestions. I've updated to latest 0621 build, but WiFi did work in last firmware and.this one ad well. Please advice. Thank you.
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I have cine to realize that my box is a cheap generic copy. I has fried my scaled board on my tv twice now. This thing runs hot. It's going in the trash. This sucks, where can I get a levity box?
Hi Stane
Yesterday I decided to install your 6/21 but I have some problems with Greek streams.
I give you links, you to take a look. ANT1 WEBTV / HOMEPAGE /
On this one, if you try to watch video, player shows "loading video" and after that, TV box all the time returns on menu page.
This problem did not happened before with mediafire firmware.
Also: ΕΡΤ - Web TV
If you push here to watch a video, player opens but no video playing.
This problem was always with mediafire firmware.
Playing on pc I do not have any problem with both.
Thanks in advance.
Not at home for almost a day... f16ref fw should be ready tomorrow. There is flash problem with video reproduction, thats why you have problems with certain web pages. Will try to solve this also. Cant help much with recovery right now cause i dont have my laptop with me.
also, stane1983, can you compile into your rom a switch in settings. other ICS devices have the ability to use only a physical keyboard if plugged in, thereby preventing the on screen keyboard from popping up. i think this would be useful. i use a real keyboard on my atv-108 and hate that the onscreen one comes up every time i want to enter text.
UPDATE: nevermind, i just found it! it was already there!
from another forum :
"When you enter a text area (eg : on the navigator), you just have to touch the keyboard icon on the left of the clock. There beside "Use physical keyboard", you have to choose "No"."
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also, stane1983, can you compile into your rom a switch in settings. other ICS devices have the ability to use only a physical keyboard if plugged in, thereby preventing the on screen keyboard from popping up. i think this would be useful. i use a real keyboard on my atv-108 and hate that the onscreen one comes up every time i want to enter text.
UPDATE: nevermind, i just found it! it was already there!
from another forum :
"When you enter a text area (eg : on the navigator), you just have to touch the keyboard icon on the left of the clock. There beside "Use physical keyboard", you have to choose "No"."
Still on cellphone, but...
Go to V-Play download section and try netflix app available under tools section.
Reported as working by androidfun (correct me if i'm wrong, it was mail conversation) on 0604 release.
Go to V-Play download section and try netflix app available under tools section.
Reported as working by androidfun (correct me if i'm wrong, it was mail conversation) on 0604 release.
so far, no good with 0621 firmware. need to redownload 0604 and try that..app wont even start. just instant crashes and exits.
UPDATE: i also tested those G.O.T. episodes on the atv-108 but with 2.3.4 running and they played perfectly! so its not necessarily a hardware decoder problem. its an ICS problem on 8726M1 problem, not on 8726M3 tho. curious...
UPDATE2: Crackle app works great! decent amount of movies and shows to watch...
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so far, no good with 0621 firmware. need to redownload 0604 and try that..app wont even start. just instant crashes and exits.
UPDATE: i also tested those G.O.T. episodes on the atv-108 but with 2.3.4 running and they played perfectly! so its not necessarily a hardware decoder problem. its an ICS problem on 8726M1 problem, not on 8726M3 tho. curious...
UPDATE2: Crackle app works great! decent amount of movies and shows to watch...
Crackle app is not available in my Country (Argentina), i just can play on web page, but flash is not working on Crackle...
so far, no good with 0621 firmware. need to redownload 0604 and try that..app wont even start. just instant crashes and exits.
UPDATE: i also tested those G.O.T. episodes on the atv-108 but with 2.3.4 running and they played perfectly! so its not necessarily a hardware decoder problem. its an ICS problem on 8726M1 problem, not on 8726M3 tho. curious...
UPDATE2: Crackle app works great! decent amount of movies and shows to watch...
Finally home... Yeah, tested now by myself, netflix crashes on last fw...
About codecs and GB 2.3.4 and c03ref... Visson did some more coding to be able to reproduce ac3.... They abandoned m1 platform and moved to m3 and that's why m1 really got only 2 official releases of ICS, neither of them supporting ac3/eac3/dts... it's licensing issue, and as I said, most probably hardware limitation of integrated audio decoder chip. What they did on GB releases I never asked...
When I built my GB release, I had issues with all these codecs before I installed license file found on the net...
Finally home... Yeah, tested now by myself, netflix crashes on last fw...
About codecs and GB 2.3.4 and c03ref... Visson did some more coding to be able to reproduce ac3.... They abandoned m1 platform and moved to m3 and that's why m1 really got only 2 official releases of ICS, neither of them supporting ac3/eac3/dts... it's licensing issue, and as I said, most probably hardware limitation of integrated audio decoder chip. What they did on GB releases I never asked...
When I built my GB release, I had issues with all these codecs before I installed license file found on the net...
Stane 1983
I confirm Netflix works without problems in ROM 20120604 as commented by email.
I am using Wondershare Player to play movies, series, and all kind of videos as well as local multimedia files. It also plays DVDs by pointing to the Video TS folder.
keep with the good work
Finally home... Yeah, tested now by myself, netflix crashes on last fw...
About codecs and GB 2.3.4 and c03ref... Visson did some more coding to be able to reproduce ac3.... They abandoned m1 platform and moved to m3 and that's why m1 really got only 2 official releases of ICS, neither of them supporting ac3/eac3/dts... it's licensing issue, and as I said, most probably hardware limitation of integrated audio decoder chip. What they did on GB releases I never asked...
When I built my GB release, I had issues with all these codecs before I installed license file found on the net...
visson is not the only company to get Eac3 to work on gingerbread. mesada corp, who makes my flexview fv3, also plays perfectly. so if it can work in GB, can't it work in ICS as well? You yourself got rid of the license limitation for dts and ac3. please explain how it could be a hardware limitation of integrated audio decoder chip when same hardware plays the files fine on GB. im not sure i understand that. i got two amlogic 8726M1 players from two different companies that can play these files in 2.3.4GB.
I confirm Netflix works without problems in ROM 20120604 as commented by email.
I am using Wondershare Player to play movies, series, and all kind of videos as well as local multimedia files. It also plays DVDs by pointing to the Video TS folder.
keep with the good work
does netflix only work on the older 1.2.0 version rom stane19830 posted? i was really hoping for newer netflix, because they have made significant improvements to the video qualtiy in more recent releases..how does it look on 0604 firmware?
visson is not the only company to get Eac3 to work on gingerbread. mesada corp, who makes my flexview fv3, also plays perfectly. so if it can work in GB, can't it work in ICS as well? You yourself got rid of the license limitation for dts and ac3. please explain how it could be a hardware limitation of integrated audio decoder chip when same hardware plays the files fine on GB. im not sure i understand that. i got two amlogic 8726M1 players from two different companies that can play these files in 2.3.4GB.
Take ffmpeg library which is used (modified) in Amlogic sources. You take that library, do little coding and then you don't have eac3, but mp3 or some other format which audio decoder supports and can decode. Amlogic processors are powerful enough to do real time audio recoding. What Amlogic chipset does not support (at least m1 platform) is full HD VC-1.
And I didn't say it can't be done. Eac3 etc is not my priority on c03ref boards. If I come up with a solution or if someone have a solution, share it with me and I will implement it.
Visson abandoned M1 platform, which is good from my aspect. I'm maintaining c03ref ICS firmware for which I think is more than just a little bit better than Visson's ICS for m1 platform.
My primary platform is f16ref, but since Android sources are the same (except for kernel), I keep c03ref active as much as I can. I have almost nothing from it. Since I started all this I received 7 donations (2 of them were from people I helped to recover their devices - means 5) with 830 fw downloads for c03ref and 62 downloads for f16ref.
As I said in post earlier, if you don't like it, buy another product, buy f16ref for which I'm going to release new fw within 24 hours or go back to GB release or you can use movieplayer such as mx movie player where you can enable software decoding and you will have all you want, but with lower quality
does netflix only work on the older 1.2.0 version rom stane19830 posted? i was really hoping for newer netflix, because they have made significant improvements to the video qualtiy in more recent releases..how does it look on 0604 firmware?
I just installed the latest Netflix from market. I can't see a difference with the one I had before, both play with Rom 20120604
hey stane, i hope i didnt offend you. sorry if i did. i was only asking because i was curious how the other boxes could decode. now i know so thank you. and i appreciate you supporting c03ref . you are doing much better than visson ever did. and yer rom is much better. i understand about moving on to the f16ref. i myself will soon buy one,just to stay current with the technology. but thank you for your work! we all appreciate it.
Hi All ! I'm using today an old version of the firmware (20120604) and I'd like to decide if move to the 21 version or not... this are the things I'm looking forward and, if I'm not wrong, current status on latest firmware:
BT - Not implemented
MIC via BT - Not sure but BT is not implemented so...
Wifi - Not sure (I think there is Wifi support but very limited yet, right ?)
Xbox 360 - Implemented
Webcam (For Skype) - Implemented
Full Screen YTube Problem - Fixed
If someone can confirm this status, would be great for deciding....
Netflix is not working. While it plays with video and sound for a little while on 06042012 firmware, the stream eventually stops and the only way to start it again is to back out of the video and start it again. timer doesnt run properly when video plays. it skips 3 seconds for every 1 real second. this is a problem we have had since i started using netflix on ICS. Netflix is completely non functional on stane1983's newer firmwares with custom kernels. but maybe a little comparison between what is different in the logs between the two firmwares and netflix sort of working and not working is in order..
EDIT: new ROM from 06212012 is excellent at flash video sites now...at least the ones i have tried, especially gorillavid thru letmewatchthis.ch..just set browser to android and install adaway from market to block popups and whatnot. works great! HTML5 streaming video sites seem to work very well also!
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hey stane, i hope i didnt offend you. sorry if i did. i was only asking because i was curious how the other boxes could decode. now i know so thank you. and i appreciate you supporting c03ref . you are doing much better than visson ever did. and yer rom is much better. i understand about moving on to the f16ref. i myself will soon buy one,just to stay current with the technology. but thank you for your work! we all appreciate it.
Hey, I'm not offended, maybe I overreacted and I'm sorry for that
I will keep maintaining c03ref platform as long as there are ppl who uses it
Now I'm finishing f16ref firmware, should be uploaded within 2 hours... I included some changes to MoviePlayer and AppInstaller apps which will be also included in next c03ref release...
good to know yer still gonna support c03ref cos imma use the sh*t outta mine. til it dies. hey stane1983, have you had any defective units so far? what quantity are you purchasing in? or planning on? just curious?
Features are the same as for c03ref + some more which will be included in next c03ref build.
AppInstall application behaves that that way: It will list /mnt/sdcard, /mnt/sda.... will not list /mnt/NetShares, but /mnt/NetShares/sharepath if any... If you don't have any network shares in AppInstall, NetShares won't be visible.
MoviePlayer - shadow effect removed and added outline effect, I think it's better to use outline for subtitles than shadow.
Features:
- Android 4.0.4
- IR remote support
- resolution and scaling settings are now saved
- CVBS output works
- uinput and other input devices
- new languages
- camera support, needs testing
- Network shares available trough /mnt/NetShares
- MoviePlayer subtitles - shadow effect replaced with outline effect
- AppInstall - /mnt/NetShares folder handling improved
good to know yer still gonna support c03ref cos imma use the sh*t outta mine. til it dies. hey stane1983, have you had any defective units so far? what quantity are you purchasing in? or planning on? just curious?
I didn't have any big orders yet, but so far none of units were defective. One f16ref board (first they ever made) had malfunctioning wifi module, but that batch (100 pcs) was not intended to reach the market but samples for Visson's direct customers and for test purposes only AFAIK. Anyway, that device is also fixed cause they sent me new wifi module.
Features are the same as for c03ref + some more which will be included in next c03ref build.
AppInstall application behaves that that way: It will list /mnt/sdcard, /mnt/sda.... will not list /mnt/NetShares, but /mnt/NetShares/sharepath if any... If you don't have any network shares in AppInstall, NetShares won't be visible.
MoviePlayer - shadow effect removed and added outline effect, I think it's better to use outline for subtitles than shadow.
Features:
- Android 4.0.4
- IR remote support
- resolution and scaling settings are now saved
- CVBS output works
- uinput and other input devices
- new languages
- camera support, needs testing
- Network shares available trough /mnt/NetShares
- MoviePlayer subtitles - shadow effect replaced with outline effect
- AppInstall - /mnt/NetShares folder handling improved
nice! when you drop the c03ref firmware, can you add news and weather back in for me please? also, i don't know if you added these bugs (c03ref) to yer list but :
- SD cards don't automount when inserted, only upon reboot.
- usb audio / microphone you already know about..i assume this will also affect usb webcams with microphones...so no skype quite just yet?
nice! when you drop the c03ref firmware, can you add news and weather back in for me please? also, i don't know if you added these bugs (c03ref) to yer list but :
- SD cards don't automount when inserted, only upon reboot.
- usb audio / microphone you already know about..i assume this will also affect usb webcams with microphones...so no skype quite just yet?
Hi, usb audio kernel bug fixed, it will work in next release. About sdcard, I'm aware of the problem, it's kernel bug... will fix that till next release. Same with news and weather, will be added. Did you manage to put news and weather to update package? It should be installed but it's not... GenieWidget.apk in new_patch.zip...
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That's ok 
List of Games
, so i installed a couple of games:
