The Hero and Moment will not be getting 2.2! Sprint Twitter

[electricsheep]

Sprint (sprint) on Twitter

"HTC EVO will be updated to Android 2.2; Samsung Moment & HTC Hero will not. Future devices launching w/ 2.1 will be also be updated to 2.2."

 

[jasonacg]

Just saw that same tweet. Disappointing, to say the least.

Hopefully, someone will try to make a custom 2.2 for the Moment, even without Sprint's support or blessing.

 

[hotani]

Yep. Just saw that myself. Looks like I'll be rooting the phone as soon as someone comes out with a custom 2.2 ROM. *sigh*

With the speed improvements of 2.2, the older phones would benefit the most. Better for sprint for people to upgrade phones rather than install an upgrade that would help the performance.

Thanks sprint/samsung.

 

[vbetts]

That's ridiculous. Even the Droid is getting 2.2, this is basically Sprints way of telling us "Hey, if you want 2.2 then you have to buy a new phone.". Forcing us to upgrade if we want Froyo on the Moment or Hero.

 

[Jim W]

Yep. Just saw that myself. Looks like I'll be rooting the phone as soon as someone comes out with a custom 2.2 ROM. *sigh*

With the speed improvements of 2.2, the older phones would benefit the most. Better for sprint for people to upgrade phones rather than install an upgrade that would help the performance.

Thanks sprint/samsung.

Same here, never planned on messing around with rooting, but looks like I have no choice.

And ditto on the second part as well. I'd agree with them if 2.2 came out way after 2.1 but so close, it doesn't make sense. Stupid for them to want us to upgrade when most of us just got into contracts getting these phones mere months ago.

 

[Bigprimo]

I don't know why any of you are surprised. 2.2 is gonna offer extra features in Sprints eyes and bet your ass they want to charge you for it!

 

[mrmojoz]

That's ridiculous. Even the Droid is getting 2.2, this is basically Sprints way of telling us "Hey, if you want 2.2 then you have to buy a new phone.". Forcing us to upgrade if we want Froyo on the Moment or Hero.

Even the Droid? The Droid has better hardware in it than the Moment and a bigger install base, of course it is going to keep getting upgrades.

 

[Jim W]

I don't know why any of you are surprised. 2.2 is gonna offer extra features in Sprints eyes and bet your ass they want to charge you for it!

How could they want me to upgrade a phone that is barely over 6 months old? lol



Unless of course the Moment 2 rumors are indeed true and the Moment becomes totally obsolete in a couple months.

 

[dntesinfrno]

Im personally not surprised, nor am i worried. I'm confident the devs over sdx will have 2.2 up and running on our phones within a week of the first look at source code dumps, the same as 2.1.

 

[IOWA]

Update: According to this tweet from the carrier: "HTC EVO will be updated to Android 2.2; Samsung Moment & HTC Hero will not. Future devices launching w/ 2.1 will be also be updated to 2.2."

Sprint: EVO 4G users getting Android 2.2 'in the near future' (Update: No upgrade for Moment, Hero) -- Engadget

 

[pastafarian]

Not surprising. The Hero definitely gets 2.2 via the hacker community and the Moment probably does too.

 

[Greavous]

http://androidforums.com/samsung-moment/108999-hero-moment-will-not-getting-2-2-sprint-twitter.html

 

[edp]

i'm not suprised at all. but hey, we're still in a much better place than behold II users. haha. and personally, this phone is getting dropped as soon as i'm up for an upgrade, so i dont' really care. and if i want froyo on it, i'm fully confident sdx will cook it up soon enough

 

[ABH]

Better for sprint for people to upgrade phones rather than install an upgrade that would help the performance.

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Sprint doesn't make any money selling hardware. In fact, they lose it. The only way that Sprint is the cause is if they plan on slapping the new $10 premium data fee on all future Android phones, which would make forcing upgrades profitable.

I suspect this is Samsung saying they don't want to put anymore resources into a phone that is nearly obsolete.

Also, I sure hope Sprint gets a Motorola Android phone soon.

 

[Android Walks]

New from Sprint/Samsung via Twitter: "Any further updates to your Samsung Moment are left in the hands of the nice people over at sdx-developers.com"

 

[Eazail70x7]

Hmm, How is my sister gonna get 2.2 on her Hero now? Im. Getting a galaxy. S pro so i guess Ill be okay

 

[vbetts]

Even the Droid? The Droid has better hardware in it than the Moment and a bigger install base, of course it is going to keep getting upgrades.

Clock for clock from Cortex to Arm11 yes. But the Moment is about as fast as the Droid, just with a locked visual processor. The Moment has decently sized rom space. The My Touch is also getting the 2.2 update even though it's still on Arm6. The Hero runs the same. Eris isn't going to be supported by Verizon much longer(No surprise, Verizon is known to kill support for phones fast) but the Droid is still going to be supported. I'll give Verizon this, they're keeping the Droid up and running. Sprint is basically throwing the Moment and the Hero away, which is everyone who bought one. It wouldn't be that big of a deal for me if it weren't for some reasons...
1. 2.2 adds flash, and also JIT native.
2. I bought the about 4 months ago for $60. Thankfully I had insurance on it so when it was stolen from work I got a replacement refurb model for $100. So I basically paid $160 for a phone that is going to lose it's support soon. The Moment also retails about $500 new, $200-$300 used. That's a lot to replace it if I didn't have insurance. I bought a Palm Pre before I had the Moment for $130 used. The Palm Pre is still getting updates and isn't set to be EOL soon.
3. The Droid was released about a month earlier than the Moment, still supported.

For me, it just seems like that the Moment and the Hero were the stepping stones for Android from Sprint, to gear them up to other devices. Which isn't bad, but when you kill support for the phone as fast as they are planning to, that's when it's bad.

 

[Eazail70x7]

Well, I guess we can't complain too much cause I doubt the eris, G1, Devour, Cliq, and Backflip will receive 2.2 either. Heck, I'm not even sure if the Lg Ally will get it...

 

[vbetts]

Motorola and Verizon seem to be good on keeping their android phones updated, but really only those with the Droid name. The Eris most likely won't see any update because Verizon is taking it off the shelves soon, now the Ally I'm not so sure on either. Only because the Ally might be the same situation of the Moments, not LGs first attempt at an Android phone, but the stepping stone really. I guess it just depends on the support for the phone.

 

[pastafarian]

Whether or not the phone gets updated is more on the manufacturer than the provider. The Droid was Moto's flagship and considering how poorly they're image has suffered lately, throwing Droid users a 2.2 bone isn't a bad marketing idea. Additionally, the Droid was the first 2.x phone on the market and hasn't had the major upgrade that the Moments, Heros and MyTouches have. The Eris is basically a re badged Hero and HTC has no incentive to update their older hardware beyond what they see as a reasonable point. Samsung OTH doesn't seem to notice it has users. They already moved the high schooler, monkey and random passerby that made up the Moment development team to other projects. No 2.2 for you!

The problem here is expectation. This market segment is moving at breakneck speeds right now. Android hardware is on a 6 month cycle and the OS is on 4. In the past with Palm or WinMo devices, one major update and a minor or 2 for a phone over it's usable 1-1 1/2 yr lifespan was acceptable. Your getting the same now except it's in a 6-8 month time frame. When we had 1.5 it could be argued that the OS was hampering the hardware. With 2.1, that argument is much less valid. I certainly want 2.2's JIT for added speed, but I don't have the feeling that the Moment was "made" for 2.2. I can fault Samsung for their past screwed up update procedures, weak gps antenna, vanilla 2.1 update lacking most desirable features and infamous radio lock up issues. I can't fault them for not taking this phone beyond 2.1.

 

[dibba]

Seems like just a month ago or so everyone was so excited (including me) to be officially getting 2.1 on their Moments...

 

[jrotgers]

With the issues that I have had with the Moment and Sprint and having to rely on the development community (which are great) I'm definitely considering at least looking at Windows phone 7. I love the concept of Android but the manufacturers seem to be pushing out phones too fast to be stable and then dropping support way too fast. If I understand with MS at least they will update their OS over the air with patches. This of course could completely backfire depending on the manufacturing and Sprint but I'm getting quite frustrated.

 

[dibba]

I'd be surprised if you get for example, Windows Phone 8 upgrade from your Phone 7 OS.

Microsoft has never been known to give free updates. (besides patches to fix their mess)

 

[Jas0n]

Alright, so to be clear... will the Moment have the hardware to support 2.2?

Things like the JIT and the flash - are these strictly software issues?

Sorry, I'm a phone noob. But if I have to do this ROM root thing to get 2.2 dammit I'll do it.

 

[Jas0n]

Well, is twitter really an "official" source?