iOS4 vs Android

[fahadchaudhry]

It's already known that 'Apple reinvents wheel', but this time, in case of iPhone 4 which was highly anticipated and regarded as 'This Changes Everything. Again' on Apple's webpage, I doubt Apple even knows the shape of a wheel. It's still striving to know whether wheel is round or square. Let alone reinventing it. Apple, I must say that 'This Really Changes Everything. First time (not again), in other sense (iPhone Fans! Beware, you don't have to spend money to get 'Sms character counter in iOS4).
What should have been "New and Next-gen features', are still missing and a dream for Apple (Good thing is that all of these missing features are already present in Android, BB and Palm Pre); and what Apple introduced as 'New features',first, they are threshold, not Next-gen or Revolutionary, secondly, all of us have seen these decade ago in various Nokia, SE and BB phones. Please follow the link given below to see what iOS4 is offering.

Apple iOS 4 review: Getting there - GSMArena.com

 

[Wardogz]

One of Apples promo vids claims they have brought video calling to the world with the iPhone4...they seem to forget that video calling has been around for years.

 

[fahadchaudhry]

One of Apples promo vids claims they have brought video calling to the world with the iPhone4...they seem to forget that video calling has been around for years.

Exactly, and not only on Wi-Fi but on 3G also; while iPhone 4 can just make video calls over Wi-Fi only.

 

[Wardogz]

Exactly, and not only on Wi-Fi but on 3G also; while iPhone 4 can just make video calls over Wi-Fi only.

And the same video claimed the 3gs was the first phone to have video recording lol.

 

[uzetaab]

What depresses me is that most people don't know any better.

On the other hand though, I have to thank apple for main-streaming smart phones or we'd probably still be stuck with Ipaqs.

...say. maybe Compaq should sue apple over the whole 'i' thing. lol

 

[Evil Genius]

ok, so maybe it's just me but where's the "vs android" bit to this thread?

all i've seen so far is the usual apple hating dribble.

 

[Dazo]

I have both the Iphone 4 and the Desire. Switched off The Iphone is the better phone. It is solid, classy and feels good to hold. Switch it on and the Desire with Android pisses all over it. The apple "experience" and Apps superiority is nothing but a myth.

Just my opinion after using both phones.

 

[Jammy]

And what does this have to do with the HTC Desire?

 

[Dazo]

And what does this have to do with the HTC Desire?

Nothing wrong with comparing phones as the OS is not really comparable. Android performs differently on different handsets.

 

[Jammy]

Nothing wrong with comparing phones as the OS is not really comparable. Android performs differently on different handsets.

I know. He didn't mention the Desire once though in his post.

I think, considering this is the Desire forums, people should stop posting about the iPhone 4 >.<

 

[Dazo]

I know. He didn't mention the Desire once though in his post.

I think, considering this is the Desire forums, people should stop posting about the iPhone 4 >.<

Fair point.

 

[1208]

what is this, 2010s answer to the SNES vs Megadrive battle?

 

[gibbs1984]

I thought it was going to be a constructive comparison but alas it wasn't.

 

[Nodders]

what is this, 2010s answer to the SNES vs Megadrive battle?

Worse - more like C64 v Speccy (the latter of course being the better)

 

[Wardogz]

And what does this have to do with the HTC Desire?

Well this is the HTC Desire forum...

 

[t0Msha]

One of Apples promo vids claims they have brought video calling to the world with the iPhone4...they seem to forget that video calling has been around for years.

they didn't bring video calling.
they brought iphone4 to iphone4 WiFi only video calling.

 

[kboya]

The desire is not an iPhone. The iPhone is not a desire.

 

[Jammy]

Well this is the HTC Desire forum...

That's my point.

Why is there a post in the Desire forum that has nothing to do with the Desire?

 

[master_yoda]

C64 v Speccy (the latter of course being the better)

Agreed

 

[mikeh]

One of Apples promo vids claims they have brought video calling to the world with the iPhone4...they seem to forget that video calling has been around for years.

I think you have misinterpreted this statement;

Yes, Video calling has been around for years, but who has ever used it? No one. That is why very few phone manufacturers bother putting a front facing camera on their phones any more.

With the iPhone 4, people will use video calling - one because its been implemented well, two because its been marketed correctly and three (not one I think is a good reason, mind) because Apple says you should.

When comparing the iPhone to other smartphones, I think you really need to "get" the iPhone. It isn't something that is supposed to do everything, every way possible - it is designed to be the best at everything it does do - this is why we saw many features missing so early on - they are simply not included until Apple have 100% nailed them (Plus, its an amazing marketing strategy, which works very well - after all, Apple are a business).

I don't think its entirely fair to compare the iPhone directly with the Desire, either. I came from an 3GS to the Desire, and the Desire does leave a lot to be desired (pun intended);

In terms of hardware, it isn't a touch on even the 3GS (with exception to screen quality/resolution in the right conditions) - the Desire has poor storage capacity as standard (16 and 32GB SD cards are still quite expensive!), feels no where near as well built, is useless in sunlight and suffers to measure up in terms of battery life.

When it comes to comparing iOS to Android - until 2.1 there was simply no contest, the iPhone was miles ahead. 2.1 improved things a lot, but there simply isn't that refined touch to Android that you get with iOS. Things aren't as well rounded, many things seem like an after thought, and whilst it may have all the features you want, not all of them work that well - if Apple released a product like this, they'd be crucified. After all that, you are still as restricted on an Android handset as you are on an iPhone, which amuses me when you get a lot of people slating the iPhone for being so locked down.

In conclusion, I do really like my Desire - its a huge improvement on the Hero I used briefly in between my 3GS and looking for a new phone, I also like Android a lot - I even run it on my Joggler! But Android still has a lot of growing up to do before it "works" (in the sense of actually working, and everything fitting together) as well as an iPhone.

Android user, iPhone lover

 

[Si Pie]

Regarding the hardware vs the 3GS, the specs for the Desire trounce the iPhone. Considering you had to pay a lot of money on a contract for the iPhone (the Desire is free mostly everywhere) then I could get a 32gb SD card and still have change in my pocket. However, the Desire is a lot newer so it's not really a fair comparison anyway.

I saw the promo vid for the video calling or whatever Apple branded it as and I must say it did look good. The marketing behind it did make it seem like it had never been done before which is wrong mind. I suppose Apple's aim is for the iPhone to replace webcam calls on the pc and it could work in all honesty.

Obviously the trade off with Android v iOS at the moment is that it isn't as slick but you can customise it a hell of a lot more.

Personally I think the iOS4 is a good thing for Android's future development. It's shown that Apple can only really take their OS so far, despite it looking slick. As soon as Android is made to be slicker then it will be the best mobile operating system in my opinion, unless Apple start to open up their OS which will never happen.

 

[mikeh]

Regarding the hardware vs the 3GS, the specs for the Desire trounce the iPhone.

I wasn't really talking about processor speeds etc. as clock speeds and ram are pretty irrelevant over two different architectures and platforms. My point was the iPhones are better built and much better thought out - the screen working in sunlight for one.

Yes, the Desire has its own merits, but I do find myself frustrated at people that seem to get into the whole "I have phone A, so phone B is bad" thing, and quite frankly I'm fed up with the iPhone vs Android thing all over the internet - it isn't just here.

For the record, I honestly believe if Google stick to their guns, and get 3.0 right and keep it as described then providing the right hardware is there (Someone needs to make a truly brilliant phone for the Android platform!) then it really has a fighting chance at biting a huge chunk out of the iPhone market.

 

[GSMGuy]

(Someone needs to make a truly brilliant phone for the Android platform!) then it really has a fighting chance at biting a huge chunk out of the iPhone market.

Erm, it's already got it's teeth in, and sinking deeper every day.. Just make sure you hold that IPhone4 properly when updating your posts, or they may never make it.....

Mike

 

[Nodders]

With the iPhone 4, people will use video calling - one because its been implemented well, two because its been marketed correctly and three (not one I think is a good reason, mind) because Apple says you should.

This is the sort of regurgitated Apple mrketing line without any basis at all. "Implemented well"? Utter garbage. It's on wifi only. Implemented well would also involve 3G etc. Still - you get enough people droning the above mantra and then guess what, they really believe it, and never ask for more.

 

[Dazo]

I think you have misinterpreted this statement;

Yes, Video calling has been around for years, but who has ever used it? No one. That is why very few phone manufacturers bother putting a front facing camera on their phones any more.

With the iPhone 4, people will use video calling - one because its been implemented well, two because its been marketed correctly and three (not one I think is a good reason, mind) because Apple says you should.

When comparing the iPhone to other smartphones, I think you really need to "get" the iPhone. It isn't something that is supposed to do everything, every way possible - it is designed to be the best at everything it does do - this is why we saw many features missing so early on - they are simply not included until Apple have 100% nailed them (Plus, its an amazing marketing strategy, which works very well - after all, Apple are a business).

I don't think its entirely fair to compare the iPhone directly with the Desire, either. I came from an 3GS to the Desire, and the Desire does leave a lot to be desired (pun intended);

In terms of hardware, it isn't a touch on even the 3GS (with exception to screen quality/resolution in the right conditions) - the Desire has poor storage capacity as standard (16 and 32GB SD cards are still quite expensive!), feels no where near as well built, is useless in sunlight and suffers to measure up in terms of battery life.

When it comes to comparing iOS to Android - until 2.1 there was simply no contest, the iPhone was miles ahead. 2.1 improved things a lot, but there simply isn't that refined touch to Android that you get with iOS. Things aren't as well rounded, many things seem like an after thought, and whilst it may have all the features you want, not all of them work that well - if Apple released a product like this, they'd be crucified. After all that, you are still as restricted on an Android handset as you are on an iPhone, which amuses me when you get a lot of people slating the iPhone for being so locked down.

In conclusion, I do really like my Desire - its a huge improvement on the Hero I used briefly in between my 3GS and looking for a new phone, I also like Android a lot - I even run it on my Joggler! But Android still has a lot of growing up to do before it "works" (in the sense of actually working, and everything fitting together) as well as an iPhone.

Android user, iPhone lover

Sorry Mike but you are coming across as a sheep in wolves clothing. Some of your arguments for the Iphone are laughable at best.

The biggest single reason people say iOS is better is because it "just works". There is a reason for that IMO its because it does very little. I find the user interface so dumbed down it is almost unbearable. iOS4 allows you to create folders and move apps around the screen and that's where user interaction stops. Android is certainly not perfect yet but it is miles ahead of iOS.