Help About the Battery on This Beast

[Rockaholic]

Would I be able to use it during the initial charge without causing damage?

 

[jbhumph]

Good question as I know it'll be hard for me to keep my hands off my X tomorrow morning! From what I've always understood about the batteries on these type of units, getting a FULL charge the first time is highly recommended. Maybe I'll "hide" mine from myself and look up android apps online while I wait lol

 

[JubbaTheHutt]

Good question as I know it'll be hard for me to keep my hands off my X tomorrow morning! From what I've always understood about the batteries on these type of units, getting a FULL charge the first time is highly recommended. Maybe I'll "hide" mine from myself and look up android apps online while I wait lol

Actually, with almost all lithium based batteries, it's suggested that you let them drain close to or to full completion before you recharged them (at least do this 4-5 times) to get both the full charge out of them, and keep their life expectancy.

 

[jbhumph]

True....but do you want to drain it fully before you charge it completely? Maybe I missed the first step lol

 

[VDubBugMan53]

yes you always want to drain them before you charge them to full....and you want to do that at least once a month

 

[jbhumph]

Cool, thanks for the clarification guys! Now I have a valid excuse to play with the X right away

 

[Rockaholic]

Yes, thanks a lot . Anything else I can do to get the most out of the battery?

 

[cam4mav]

glad I saw this, I was gonna torture myself waiting for it to fully charge

 

[exidor07]

Actually, with almost all lithium based batteries, it's suggested that you let them drain close to or to full completion before you recharged them (at least do this 4-5 times) to get both the full charge out of them, and keep their life expectancy.

Actually your an idiot. What you just posted is complete bs. The truth is Lithium ion batteries do not require conditioning nor does it suffer from any memory effect. These are old myths from the ni cad battery. No longer the case with lithium its the benefit of the technology

 

[hawkijustin]

Actually your an idiot. What you just posted is complete bs. The truth is Lithium ion batteries do not require conditioning nor does it suffer from any memory effect. These are old myths from the ni cad battery. No longer the case with lithium its the benefit of the technology

Like he said.

Draining a Lithium battery all the way is WORSE for the battery.

 

[Garrett67]

Actually your an idiot. What you just posted is complete bs. The truth is Lithium ion batteries do not require conditioning nor does it suffer from any memory effect. These are old myths from the ni cad battery. No longer the case with lithium its the benefit of the technology

^This, minus the idiot part

Preparing new lithium-ion for use

Unlike nickel and lead-based batteries, a new lithium-ion pack does not need cycling through charging and discharging. Priming will make little difference because the maximum capacity of lithium-ion is available right from the beginning. Neither does a full discharge improve the capacity of a faded pack. However, a full discharge/charge will reset the digital circuit of a 'smart' battery to improve the state-of-charge estimation

Charging lithium-ion batteries

 

[exidor07]

yes you always want to drain them before you charge them to full....and you want to do that at least once a month

Lithium ion chemistry prefers partial discharge to deep discharge, so it's best to avoid taking the battery all the way down to zero. Since lithium-ion chemistry does not have a "memory", you do not harm the battery pack with a partial discharge. If the voltage of a lithium-ion cell drops below a certain level, it's
ruined. Please before you open you uneducated mouth do a little research on a topic. Once
You become educated then you mislead people with the bullsh*t you have been dishing out .

 

[Drayton]

Would it be better not to play around on it while it's getting its first charge?

 

[BCox]

Yes, now I am confused...
So don't bring to 0...that has been established...

...but do I have to fully charge when i open it? Or can I use it for a bit and get it set up, then let it charge?

and do I have to turn it off to charge it?

 

[exidor07]

Yes, now I am confused...
So don't bring to 0...that has been established...

...but do I have to fully charge when i open it? Or can I use it for a bit and get it set up, then let it charge?

and do I have to turn it off to charge it?

Dude it helps a lot if you use your brain. I've already posted lithium ion batteries need no conditioning nor suffer from memory effect. So yes use your phone as much as you want right out of the box.

 

[krichek]

Actually your an idiot. What you just posted is complete bs. The truth is Lithium ion batteries do not require conditioning nor does it suffer from any memory effect. These are old myths from the ni cad battery. No longer the case with lithium its the benefit of the technology

Lithium ion chemistry prefers partial discharge to deep discharge, so it's best to avoid taking the battery all the way down to zero. Since lithium-ion chemistry does not have a "memory", you do not harm the battery pack with a partial discharge. If the voltage of a lithium-ion cell drops below a certain level, it's
ruined. Please before you open you uneducated mouth do a little research on a topic. Once
You become educated then you mislead people with the bullsh*t you have been dishing out .

Welcome to the forums! As a word of advice, the mods around here don't take to kindly to personnel attacks/insults.

 

[JubbaTheHutt]

Actually your an idiot. What you just posted is complete bs. The truth is Lithium ion batteries do not require conditioning nor does it suffer from any memory effect. These are old myths from the ni cad battery. No longer the case with lithium its the benefit of the technology

Please tell me you joined the forums to call me an idiot.

Bravo Sir, Bravo.

http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-x/116213-zero-tolerance-policy-all-members-read.html

 

[schmunkey]

Dude it helps a lot if you use your brain. I've already posted lithium ion batteries need no conditioning nor suffer from memory effect. So yes use your phone as much as you want right out of the box.

Go away or try to communicate with a little civility.

 

[JubbaTheHutt]

Old habits die hard, as I explicitly recall using this method for years on most devices. Obviously just like cellphones, other areas of tech have made leaps and bounds, so much so that we don't have to take longer routes to achieve the same goal.

My answer maybe wrong according to BatteryUniversity, and for this I am apparently an "ignorant ahole" who should keep his mouth shut. You sir have only provided a fraction of assistance since you popped up a few hours ago, but have greatly tarnished any credibility regarding your character to myself and what I can only imagine most of this great community.

Good luck with your future endeavors here...

 

[BCox]

Someone comes to a forum asking advice when all he had to do was type in any browser lithium ion battery. I register on here to correct some aholes miss information then the dude says I'm confused is it ok or not. He didnt read what was posted I.e. not using his brain.

I just figured I'd try to get a response here, instead of trying to read through pages of literature after staring at a computer screen all day at work.

I did read through a site that was linked, not sure if you linked it or not, but thanks...

Let me link one for you, something you may not know a lot about:
Kindness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[mitchellmyler]

children children settle down were all bro's here in this droid x family, leave the bickering for the iphone users! but there are many different opinions on the charging of lithium batteries, my guess is to read the Manuel and see what it says about it!

 

[JubbaTheHutt]

No need to derail the thread. Information was posted and I'm sure Exidor will be removed soon.

 

[mitchellmyler]

So encouraging my daughter to find information on her own when it is reasonable is bad parenting. So how does a child learn on thier own then.

go buy her a iphone and leave us alone, not once have i ever seen two android users fight among each other in this forum, thats why the android is #1 and will always top any fruit that gets in our way! DROID!!!!!

 

[HalfFrozen]

So encouraging my daughter to find information on her own when it is reasonable is bad parenting. So how does a child learn on thier own then.

Telling a child to "use your brain" the way it sounds on here, seems to be bad parenting.

Let the child not get grinded for their simple questions and assist in some guidance, would probably help a lot to insure she has a good life, and not one where she will feel stupid when asking certain questions.

Either post following the rules, or get out.

Done with this kid.

Hope the thread gains traction again.

 

[D13]