Root FYI -ReBloated and DeRooted + Quadrant scores

[Fenotyp]

In the interest of science, for posterity, and just for fun, I reinstalled almost all of the bloatware into /system/app (even Blockbuster, but not NFS Shift - I forgot).

Then I first killed root access by reinstalling the .604 update from the SD card. Rebooted and DX was fine, but apps that require root (wifi tether, screenshot, etc.) didn't work.

Then I ReDeRooted further by gaining root and then removing /system/app/Superuser.apk, /system/bin/su, /system/bin/busybox, and finally /system/bin/rootshell.

Then rebooted, and DX is still fine.

Anyway, my "best ever" Quadrant score with or without root was 1313, and usually below/around 1270 or so. After rebloating and unrooting, first run of Quadrant was 1291. Subsequent runs have been in the mid-to-high 1200's.

- F

 

[PerCompLLC]

Interesting little experiment...

 

[scary alien]

Fenotyp,

Dude, you are much braver with your phone than I am!

Very nice experiments and cool new words: DeBloated, ReDeBloated, ReDeRooted, etc. You should copyright these...

 

[androy]

Nice experiment. So, basically rooting and removing all the bloat doesn't do much at all in terms of speed, etc.?

 

[ghdtpdna]

Nice experiment. So, basically rooting and removing all the bloat doesn't do much at all in terms of speed, etc.?

That may be the logical conclusion, assuming Quadrant is accurate depiction of the phone speed; however, it is not. According to that Inc should be terribly slow but that's not the case right?

 

[Fenotyp]

That may be the logical conclusion, assuming Quadrant is accurate depiction of the phone speed; however, it is not. According to that Inc should be terribly slow but that's not the case right?

Re: Quadrant. Yeah, I don't think the scores mean much on an absolute scale, but comparatively it was interesting to see that there wasn't really much change betwen bloated and not. (I prefer to credit Android's auto resource management for that.) It was more interesting to see how varied the scores are run-to-run vs. unrooted, rooted and bloated, rooted and debloated, and rebloated and rederooted.

I will say that I get a chuckle at how close the DX's results are to the Nexus One with FroYo.

Honestly, my DX felt a bit "snappier" with most of the bloatware removed when I first did so. It may have been a "placebo effect," but after reversing everything I didn't really notice any performance hit. I do notice those damn apps that I don't want and will never use sitting semi-permanently in the app tray. :*(

At any rate, my scores on Quadrant never varied by more than 7% - pre/during/post root, and this thing is so much faster overall than my old iPhone 3G I had been using.

I guess my take on the whole thing is that I can live with the damn bloatware jammed into /system/app where I can't delete it, if it means I don't have any issues getting the FroYo update.

This is my first Android device, and besides being infinitely more customizable than my iPhones were, they are a hell of a lot more fun to tinker with.

 

[Foolish Mortal]

I cleaned the fuel injectors on my mom's DX, and it runs noticeably smoother and is more responsive. Next, I'm going to put one of those mufflers on it that makes it sound like a cheap motorcycle.

 

[j_ryan]

I cleaned the fuel injectors on my mom's DX, and it runs noticeably smoother and is more responsive. Next, I'm going to put one of those mufflers on it that makes it sound like a cheap motorcycle.

Ohhh yeah you should install an aftermarket turbo...I've had my X up to 140mph!

 

[rjoudrey]

Obviously quadrant is an average of many attributes. I believe the incredible does poorly because of the GPU.

 

[irishpride]

I just "rebloated" and my quadrant score was nearly identical to right after I rooted, 1273, before I rooted I was never getting above 1260, not sure what happened, but I like it!

 

[Piiman]

Nice experiment. So, basically rooting and removing all the bloat doesn't do much at all in terms of speed, etc.?

Why would it? 99% of the bloat isn't running. Its just sitting there waiting for you to " use it.