Church Burning Holy Korans

[Frisco]

Church plans Quran-burning event - CNN.com

Obviously they've stirred up plenty of opposition, from Moslems as well as some Christian tolerance groups and others.

I found myself laughing, though, when it occurred to me that the funds being spent by the congregation and thousands of others for the Korans they're burning will benefit Islam in the long run.

 

[Vihzel]

Wow.

 

[Weazol]

Haha. Wow that is awesome

 

[Vihzel]

I find that incredibly offensive. I have 2 close friends who are Muslim and do practice the Islamic faith. They don't agree with everything in the Qur'an and don't follow it word for word, as the vast majority of Christians don't also with the Bible. He is spreading the word of hate. Fighting hatred with hatred... in the end, hatred wins.

 

[Frisco]

I see it as of the same ilk as that moronic preacher in Kansas who goes around picketing U.S. Military funerals with "God Hates ***s" signs etc because, in his twisted mind, he sees an equation between gay rights in the U.S. and the wars we're now involved in.

Anybody who considers Islam "a religion of hate and terrorism" is just showing their ignorance of that faith.

This guy burning the Holy Koran is a grand standing goof ball looking for attention any way he can get it.

Here's a quote from the book of this "religion of hate":

"Those who believe (in the Quran), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians...and (all) who believe in God and the last day and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." The Qur'an, 2:62

Does Islam condone terrorism at all? Here's a quote from one of Islam's great writers:

"If anyone harms (others), God will harm him, and if anyone shows hostility to others, God will show hostility to him." Sunan of Abu-Dawood, Hadith 1625

 

[i VTAK]

I wish I lived near there, I'd probly stop down with a few bibles to burn. Intolerant religious bigots are the worst.

 

[LoyalServant]

If someone did this to bibles then the Christians would be burning his or her house down at the same time.

People really should check that holy holy crap at the door.

 

[Zardos]

Everything would be so much better if religion would just piss off.

 

[smacky]

I think atheist extremists are worse than any religious extremists. Or, they got on my nerves more. They're certainly no better. But I might be stating the obvious by using the term "extremists."

 

[Weazol]

If someone did this to bibles then the Christians would be burning his or her house down at the same time.

People really should check that holy holy crap at the door.

umm that happens alot. (the burning bibles)

 

[i VTAK]

umm that happens alot. (the burning bibles)

Thinking back to my high school days. I'm pretty sure my friends and I burned a small portion of a bible page in a pinch. Worked out well for us too!

 

[fried]

I think atheist extremists are worse than any religious extremists.

Care to expand on that? I think what you're saying is utter nonsense that can't be backed up by any facts whatsoever.

The worst an atheist extremist can do is say "you shouldn't believe in this and here's why!" and then they point to the lack of evidence for any religious belief. They have no text to refer to that's open to various interpretations with which to control people. They literally have nothing, as atheism is a lack of belief.

Whether any religious text promotes violence or not, some people will interpret it as such and masses of other people will believe it, simply because they think that's what their god wants them to do - not because of reason or logic.

Atheist extremist - "Don't believe this because there's no evidence!!!"

Religious extremist - "Act in a completely irrational way because of my interpretation of a religious text!!!"

Burning a Qu'ran to me is no more offensive than burning a copy of the latest Harry Potter book, the Highway Code, the instruction manual for my HTC Desire, or any other religious text. As an atheist I can't be offended, because the Qu'ran is simply a book of fairy tales, just like any other religious text.

 

[Vihzel]

Burning a Qu'ran to me is no more offensive than burning a copy of the latest Harry Potter book, the Highway Code, the instruction manual for my HTC Desire, or any other religious text. As an atheist I can't be offended, because the Qu'ran is simply a book of fairy tales, just like any other religious text.

The way you word it makes it look like you're saying that the Harry Potter series are religious texts.

 

[fried]

The way you word it makes it look like you're saying that the Harry Potter series are religious texts.

Haha, well the only reason I mentioned that is because there are some nutjobs out there that think the Harry Potter books are "evil" and would burn them as works of Satan.

 

[Crude]

I suppose this falls under freedom of speech? I mean we burn bibles and flags why not quarns? I got money the muslims will have a church burning event first....

 

[kibble]

I'm just disappointed in humanity as a whole, and have been for a very long time.

 

[Frisco]

The worst an atheist extremist can do is say "you shouldn't believe in this and here's why!"

Once atheists get into government, all hell breaks loose and to an extent on a par with extremist religious regimes.

You're apparently unaware of the old U.S.S.R. regime, as one example, which imprisoned and executed Christian leaders, ministers and priests, destroyed their churches (as long as they were not "historical," meaning revenue-generating tourist attractions such as the big cathedrals), destroyed synagogues and ran Jewish leaders out of the country (many in Israel are from that era) and even went so far as to rename all cities in the country that had religious designations: Saint Petersburg became Leningrad, etc.

Atheism is the philosophical center of Communism; read about it and perhaps you'll get an insight as to why it always fails as a matter of government policy.

 

[Vihzel]

I suppose this falls under freedom of speech? I mean we burn bibles and flags why not quarns? I got money the muslims will have a church burning event first....

The thing is... no one should be burning any "sacred texts". I strongly oppose the burning of bibles and flags, since you included that. Just people some crazy people do that, doesn't make it right for us to do that to others. It's called lack of compassion.

Obviously there are so many people in the world that lack compassion towards others who are different from them. What surprises me is the amount of Christians that lack compassion for others, as this burning of the Qur'an is a good example. The preacher in the video obviously hates them, even though he acts like he doesn't. I'm glad that there were Christian families that had enough compassion towards the Jews during WWII to allow them to hide in their homes.

Everyone should be like those Christian families.

 

[Crude]

Just people some crazy people do that,...

Here ya go.
The other problem is what is defined as "christian" these days. I know no christians that would do this so it must be some carzies like west borrow. In reallity this is one of Americas worst generalizations to apply the actions of a few to Christianity as a whole and include every bizarre sect under the label of Christianity. Just because they call themselves Christians and what they believe in is "close" to other churches doesn't make them Christian. What about the difference in Catholics vs Baptists. Baptist don't see Catholics as Christians.
Either way, at least they are burning their stuff....unlike most other protectors they burn/vandalize some one else stuff.

 

[G.Armour]

You are so right Frisco. All they are doin by spending money on the korans, that they are to burn, is just donations to the Islam community and that religion. I don't understand why a church would do this to start with. This demonstration is nothing but about hate. Ain't one of the first principles of church forgiveness and understanding? Hmmm, kinda hypocritical.

 

[Weazol]

Thinking back to my high school days. I'm pretty sure my friends and I burned a small portion of a bible page in a pinch. Worked out well for us too!

I think that is ok. But only for that purpose

 

[mrqs]

The thing is... no one should be burning any "sacred texts". I strongly oppose the burning of bibles and flags, since you included that. Just people some crazy people do that, doesn't make it right for us to do that to others. It's called lack of compassion.

what about burning a "serial killing for dummies" book?
would that be lack of compassion toward young aspiring serial killers?

i'd guess most people would agree that book to be "evil" and have a hatred (for lack of a better word) toward people who follow the book's teachings

exaggerated of course, but plenty of people feel kinda the same way about religious texts

my point is, burning "sacred texts" is no better or worse than burning harry potter books or htc desire instruction manuals or "serial killing for dummies" books - it's a dramatic protest against an ideology you don't agree with (that's likely not going to do any good)

 

[aiz4andy]

Once atheists get into government, all hell breaks loose and to an extent on a par with extremist religious regimes.

You're apparently unaware of the old U.S.S.R. regime, as one example, which imprisoned and executed Christian leaders, ministers and priests, destroyed their churches (as long as they were not "historical," meaning revenue-generating tourist attractions such as the big cathedrals), destroyed synagogues and ran Jewish leaders out of the country (many in Israel are from that era) and even went so far as to rename all cities in the country that had religious designations: Saint Petersburg became Leningrad, etc.

Atheism is the philosophical center of Communism; read about it and perhaps you'll get an insight as to why it always fails as a matter of government policy.

So because one "atheist regime" did this, does that mean all others will?!"

In that case, perhaps you can explain the following events/slaughters/atrocities committed by Christians:

The Spanish Inquisition
The Crusades
The Conquistadors (Witha a special mention of the Requerimiento)
Burning of witches at the stake
Protestant/Catholic violence in Northern Ireland
Iraq War (George W Bush claimed God told him to do it)
Catholic Extermination Camps in Croatia
The Holocaust

.....the list goes on from there...not including those men, women and children who were murdered by God in the Bible (over 10,000,000 at the last count).

And for the record, a state without religion is known as Secular not Atheist.

 

[Frisco]

So because one "atheist regime" did this, does that mean all others will?!"

You've apparently missed my posts about the murderous "Crusades," and other religion based atrocities; I'm not attempting to lift organized religion above atheism in terms of governing morals.

What I'm doing is showing that atheism is used in the same manner as religion to vilify "the enemy" and declare him not worthy of existing in groups in that regime.

 

[imtoomuch]

I think atheist extremists are worse than any religious extremists. Or, they got on my nerves more. They're certainly no better. But I might be stating the obvious by using the term "extremists."

When's the last time and atheist extremist flew a plane into buildings and killed hundreds of people and caused millions of dollars in damage? When's the last time an atheist extremist suicide bomber took out a dozen people?

Oh no they're burning the sacred book of the religion of "peace"! I think it's funny that they're burning Korans.