Dssapointed in my EVO & Android...

[AH1z]

Today marks the day, of my 30 day money back guarantee from Sprint. Although I am going to be keeping my phone, I'm pretty disappointed with it. I cant quite figure out why everyones QQing about not having one. You're not missing much...

First off the T.V. advertisements don't reflect what it's like actually owning one. What they should show is a mother taking care of a baby, because these phones are like taking care of a kid. Constantly making sure you're Wi-Fi, GPS, or mobile net is off unless you need it. The battery life with the EVO among other phones like it is flat out terrible. Being able to connect to the Internet, and move data is the foundation of a smart phone. It's what separates it from a regular cell phone. But as soon as you do, be sure and have a charger handy because any mobile data transfer is going to absolutely destroy the battery in hours. A full workday with 3g / 4g on under regular use conditions just isn't possible...

The Android system itself is also based off a fraud, or fantasy. They give you the idea of complete freedom, and the ability to do what ever comes you're way. In reality, the Android 2.2 system is the Epitome of bloat-ware. Ive never in my life seen an OS come with so much unnecessary garbage. And to top it all off, we're forced to have it... When I bought this phone I thought I was the root user, like the PC I'm typing this thread on. I though I was basically getting a PC in the palm of my hand. This couldn't be further from the truth. This problem upsets me more that the battery issue rely.

I plan on using this phone for quite awhile, and I'm locked into a 2 year agreement with Sprint. But I can only hope that next generation phones, and the companies that produce them address these problems that plague todays devices.

2c

 

[Jayo619]

My battery life was horrible until i finally decided to root my phone and install Fresh... Now the battery life is amazing and theres no bloatware on my phone. I suggest you look into rooting...

 

[lamboh]

Today marks the day, of my 30 day money back guarantee from Sprint. Although I am going to be keeping my phone, I'm pretty disappointed with it. I cant quite figure out why everyones QQing about not having one. You're not missing much...

First off the T.V. advertisements don't reflect what it's like actually owning one. What they should show is a mother taking care of a baby, because these phones are like taking care of a kid. Constantly making sure you're Wi-Fi, GPS, or mobile net is off unless you need it. The battery life with the EVO among other phones like it is flat out terrible. Being able to connect to the Internet, and move data is the foundation of a smart phone. It's what separates it from a regular cell phone. But as soon as you do, be sure and have a charger handy because any mobile data transfer is going to absolutely destroy the battery in hours. A full workday with 3g / 4g on under regular use conditions just isn't possible...

The Android system itself is also based off a fraud, or fantasy. They give you the idea of complete freedom, and the ability to do what ever comes you're way. In reality, the Android 2.2 system is the Epitome of bloat-ware. Ive never in my life seen an OS come with so much unnecessary garbage. And to top it all off, we're forced to have it... When I bought this phone I thought I was the root user, like the PC I'm typing this thread on. I though I was basically getting a PC in the palm of my hand. This couldn't be further from the truth. This problem upsets me more that the battery issue rely.

I plan on using this phone for quite awhile, and I'm locked into a 2 year agreement with Sprint. But I can only hope that next generation phones, and the companies that produce them address these problems that plague todays devices.

2c

o lawd- t claude.....another one of those...EVO sucks/i dont like this ...i dont like that...threads....but im keeping the phone.......wait ...wtf? if you dislike it so much...u clearly understand the return policy....why dont you return it?apparently this phone isnt for you....

and what other devices are you openly able to do as you please such as this platform???? and . u better not say ios...


root user my ass...

...my 4 cents

 

[sn0skier]

I wouldn't worry about "treating it like a baby." Constantly watching GPS, WiFi, etc.. will only save you an hour or two at the most anyway. If you are moving a lot of data on the phone then you should think about getting an upgraded battery. How long of a charge is your phone getting? What is using your battery life? I'm a pretty heavy user (constantly surfing the web, playing games, e-mails, using subsonic to stream music from my home computer, etc...) and I usually get about 10 hours of battery life. If you are getting less than that, then you have a significant software bug that needs to be fixed, or you are constantly in an area that has a very weak cell signal. I can drain my battery in about 3-4 hours, but I have to be using it consistantly during that time. If you are constantly using your phone than I would suggest getting a HUGE battery upgrade like I am. Most users don't use their phones as much as I do and so HTC has chosen to prioritize a slim phone over a large battery. For those of us who us the phone a lot you can get an upgraded battery. That is the trade off. Search for seidio 3500 mAh, and your problems should be solved.

 

[antianalog]

all high end smartphones suffer from bad battery because mobile technology is capable of doing new things everyday while battery technology lags behind. if you want a phone that does everything you have to accept that it's pushing the limits and it's going to use a lot of battery life. it should have been a given that in order to maintain decent battery life you were going to have to adjust settings and turn off things that are unnecessary in order to make it through the day. your options aren't limited either; you could root your phone and scale the cpu, you could get a backup battery ($10 on ebay), or you could just get used to using the toggle widgets that HTC gave you.

the solution is up to you, and if you want to believe that there are other phones out there that have better battery performance while keeping all the bells and whistles that come with the evo then you'll never enjoy what an awesome device you're holding.

 

[AH1z]

I wouldn't worry about "treating it like a baby." Constantly watching GPS, WiFi, etc.. will only save you an hour or two at the most anyway. If you are moving a lot of data on the phone then you should think about getting an upgraded battery. How long of a charge is your phone getting? What is using your battery life? I'm a pretty heavy user (constantly surfing the web, playing games, e-mails, using subsonic to stream music from my home computer, etc...) and I usually get about 10 hours of battery life. If you are getting less than that, then you have a significant software bug that needs to be fixed, or you are constantly in an area that has a very weak cell signal. I can drain my battery in about 3-4 hours, but I have to be using it consistantly during that time. If you are constantly using your phone than I would suggest getting a HUGE battery upgrade like I am. Most users don't use their phones as much as I do and so HTC has chosen to prioritize a slim phone over a large battery. For those of us who us the phone a lot you can get an upgraded battery. That is the trade off. Search for seidio 3500 mAh, and your problems should be solved.

I don't use my phone for entertainment / games, so I'm not downloading movies and stuff of that nature. All I'm asking for is a full 6-8 hours with mobile net on under typical use.

Yeah I see a xda found a way to root 2.2. Thats pretty sweet, but still we shouldn't need to root our phones. That was kinda my point to begin with. I want to see smart phones come out of the box root.

PS: Some of you ppl need to calm down... It's a PHONE. I didn't call you're mama fat.

 

[axisofoil]

my phone gets great battery life (moderate-heavy use will last me 14-15 hours if I have signal the whole time... if there is very poor signal, that can degrade to 5 or 6 hours... but that's in our server room at work which is EM insulated (albeit for different frequency ranges), so the phone is searching 100% of the time and only catching wisps of fresh signal).
I leave gps, mobile data, and wifi on full time... so idk what this whole babysitting phenomenon is about. It does all that stuff on it's own in my experience.

You do have to put it in perspective though... most people shouldn't be root, as they don't understand that root lets you do things that make the phone less secure and less stable.

If you want a phone out of the box root, you should have bought a nexus one dev edition.

 

[sn0skier]

Are you surfing the net for hours at a time? Reading things online for hours? Go to settings--about phone--battery. What is the up-time compared to awake time? now click battery use. What is killing the battery?
I agree that it would be nice if you were root user, but this is a problem on any OS, and it occurs because they are trying to build an OS for the lowest common denominator. Android won't let you delete the music player (or other core services) because if you do there isn't a good way to get it back. I'm fairly sure that Windows 7 doesn't let you turn of User Account Control. Vista was very restrictive of the amount IP addresses you could be connected to at one time. OS's do this because most people just want things to work, and these things help most people, but if you are an advanced user they can get in the way. That's why you learn to control windows, or you become a linux user. Similarly if these things annoy you on your phone, then root your phone.
The Sprint bloatware is obnoxious though. This is just carriers trying to differentiate themselves through software instead of just being dumb-pipes like they should be. It's even worse on most feature-phones, and some other smart-phones.

 

[dr g]

I got 15-20 hours. If you are not sounds like user error.

 

[EarlyMon]

Yeah I see a xda found a way to root 2.2. Thats pretty sweet, but still we shouldn't need to root our phones. That was kinda my point to begin with. I want to see smart phones come out of the box root.

You need to take that up with Sprint and all of the other carriers.

To get your phone useful do the steps here - http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-support-troubleshooting/141369-how-fix-froyo.html

And you'll probably stop babying your phone so much.

If you want to point out that you shouldn't have to do that sort of thing, I totally agree - and now do that if you want some improvement.

Suggest you read rather than skim that first post. Everyone who does wishes they had sooner - it says more than you might think at first glance.

 

[zombdroid]

This is why we need a Troll sub-forum.

Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

 

[Bnice]

I don't understand,you complain about this and that with your phone but you still keeping it.

 

[uniquenameEVO]

I don't use my phone for entertainment / games, so I'm not downloading movies and stuff of that nature. All I'm asking for is a full 6-8 hours with mobile net on under typical use.

After 30 days? I didn't lose battery that fast past my first few charges. Worst thing for me is when I have low signal (like at work). I use the phone exponentially more on the weekends as a toy and I can go Friday to Sunday without charging if I want. In my black hole/no signal office, I charge daily.

Yeah I see a xda found a way to root 2.2. Thats pretty sweet, but still we shouldn't need to root our phones. That was kinda my point to begin with. I want to see smart phones come out of the box root.

Not an Android specific nor EVO specific problem. Moot point.

PS: Some of you ppl need to calm down... It's a PHONE. I didn't call you're mama fat.

Mom is a little chunky. I doubt she or I cares if you call her fat.

P.S. I see you are in my state. If you decide to get rid of the EVO, I will buy it and throw a Q9c, Treo Pro, or BB curve in on the deal. I'll even make sure WM lets you handle the phone however you want

 

[bltserv]

I have had mine since the launch date. So a couple months. Battery will run down if you play with the 4G for a couple hours and watch some show for an hour or 2. But otherwise under normal conditions. Like an hour or so on the phone per day. I dont see a major battery problem. Nothing a Car charger or Spare battery couldnt fix. I waited a long time and did not go down the Apple Path a couple years ago like most people did. Glad I waited. I think its a fine phone.

You cant make everyone happy in this world. But it does seem odd that the OP bitches about the phone and keeps it afterall. Some people get buyers regret over everything.

 

[SporkLover]

Today marks the day, of my 30 day money back guarantee from Sprint. Although I am going to be keeping my phone, I'm pretty disappointed with it. I cant quite figure out why everyones QQing about not having one. You're not missing much...

First off the T.V. advertisements don't reflect what it's like actually owning one. What they should show is a mother taking care of a baby, because these phones are like taking care of a kid. Constantly making sure you're Wi-Fi, GPS, or mobile net is off unless you need it. The battery life with the EVO among other phones like it is flat out terrible. Being able to connect to the Internet, and move data is the foundation of a smart phone. It's what separates it from a regular cell phone. But as soon as you do, be sure and have a charger handy because any mobile data transfer is going to absolutely destroy the battery in hours. A full workday with 3g / 4g on under regular use conditions just isn't possible...

The Android system itself is also based off a fraud, or fantasy. They give you the idea of complete freedom, and the ability to do what ever comes you're way. In reality, the Android 2.2 system is the Epitome of bloat-ware. Ive never in my life seen an OS come with so much unnecessary garbage. And to top it all off, we're forced to have it... When I bought this phone I thought I was the root user, like the PC I'm typing this thread on. I though I was basically getting a PC in the palm of my hand. This couldn't be further from the truth. This problem upsets me more that the battery issue rely.

I plan on using this phone for quite awhile, and I'm locked into a 2 year agreement with Sprint. But I can only hope that next generation phones, and the companies that produce them address these problems that plague todays devices.

2c

First off, I was at Lejune over this last week, and it was a pleasure to watch the AV8B's, F-18D's, and the Cobra's over the ranges. I really do miss those sounds (Live near an Air Force base now).

Ok down to business. I came from the WM platform, and I have to say, that even compared to those aged and ancient OS, Android sure does suck down the juice. I have found though, that the culprit is usually not the OS itself but some of the software that is installed on it. For what ever reason, most of the Apps I've downloaded always default to the smallest time intervals when it comes to auto updates and background updates. When you have too much of that going on, the APN is always active, and it will kill the juice. I've gotten around this pretty much by using Battery Defender / Juice Defender. Now the data is only up and running when I want it to. I can get a pretty full days worth of usage (7AM - 10PM) using this program. I leave GPS, Bluetooth, and Wifi on all the time, never shut it off.

Second, I think that everyone misunderstands Android's openness. The true beneficiaries of the platform are the hardware manufacturers, carriers, and developers. It gives them a baseline OS that they can modify to their customer/market needs. To a user it just means you now have a potential for choice. Unfortunately, the implementation is the carrier/manufacturer's issue, not Google or the Android teams. Once you actually gain control (root), you can fix alot of those issues, and see that it is truly wonderful. I enjoy being able to flash custom kernels and not being stuck with the OEM.

Good luck, hopefully you can address those issues!

 

[AH1z]

First off, I was at Lejune over this last week, and it was a pleasure to watch the AV8B's, F-18D's, and the Cobra's over the ranges. I really do miss those sounds (Live near an Air Force base now).

Ok down to business. I came from the WM platform, and I have to say, that even compared to those aged and ancient OS, Android sure does suck down the juice. I have found though, that the culprit is usually not the OS itself but some of the software that is installed on it. For what ever reason, most of the Apps I've downloaded always default to the smallest time intervals when it comes to auto updates and background updates. When you have too much of that going on, the APN is always active, and it will kill the juice. I've gotten around this pretty much by using Battery Defender / Juice Defender. Now the data is only up and running when I want it to. I can get a pretty full days worth of usage (7AM - 10PM) using this program. I leave GPS, Bluetooth, and Wifi on all the time, never shut it off.

Second, I think that everyone misunderstands Android's openness. The true beneficiaries of the platform are the hardware manufacturers, carriers, and developers. It gives them a baseline OS that they can modify to their customer/market needs. To a user it just means you now have a potential for choice. Unfortunately, the implementation is the carrier/manufacturer's issue, not Google or the Android teams. Once you actually gain control (root), you can fix alot of those issues, and see that it is truly wonderful. I enjoy being able to flash custom kernels and not being stuck with the OEM.

Good luck, hopefully you can address those issues!

I haven't given up on it yet. I ran through the how to fix Froyo post doing a full system wipe and reinstall. It did seem to help to some degree. Maybe I'll check out that juice defender. I'm already using a host of diagnostic programs like the paid SystemPanel, and things like that. Overall nothing jumps off the page as being a CPU hog. I'm using no Task Killer's.

Long term I'm banking on a reliable 2.2 root. I think a rooted evo with no bloat would be a completely different story.

 

[Crodley]

For me, I've got two extra batteries ($10, Ebay) that work great, fit easy in my pocket and takes all of 2 minutes to swap out...I personally LOVE my EVO, and I've had a tons of gadgets over the years...

 

[TehBigCarp]

I had battery issues with my Evo before 2.2, and now i keep wifi, gps, and sync on all day along with my work emails coming in and my meebo IM messenger and by end of the day im around 55%+, I think thats pretty good. I was using a task killer before as well and I stopped using it because it was causing a lot of battery issues.

 

[jamesmckeephx]

I had battery issues with my Evo before 2.2, and now i keep wifi, gps, and sync on all day along with my work emails coming in and my meebo IM messenger and by end of the day im around 55%+, I think thats pretty good. I was using a task killer before as well and I stopped using it because it was causing a lot of battery issues.

i also took task killer off and helped loads. Also took off antivirus and my battery is awesome now!

 

[Cobravision]

Spare battery is the way to go. I can get by on one battery at work because I have chargers available, but once I get home, I'll swap batteries all night long. So I never have to stop and recharge.

 

[Brian360]

Get the 3000 mah battery out of the "Reviews'' section and call it done. 20$ for two batteries and two back covers. Lasts all day easy

 

[DroidDavi]

The main reason i hate these threads is that we all know these phones can do so much so why cry about these my phone is my mp3 player my gp3 my workout log my camera my phone and so much more your damn right i will baby it you make it seem like its such a hassle to press 1 button to turn your gps or wifi

 

[t1jordan]

Today marks the day, of my 30 day money back guarantee from Sprint. Although I am going to be keeping my phone, I'm pretty disappointed with it. I cant quite figure out why everyones QQing about not having one. You're not missing much...

First off the T.V. advertisements don't reflect what it's like actually owning one. What they should show is a mother taking care of a baby, because these phones are like taking care of a kid. Constantly making sure you're Wi-Fi, GPS, or mobile net is off unless you need it. The battery life with the EVO among other phones like it is flat out terrible. Being able to connect to the Internet, and move data is the foundation of a smart phone. It's what separates it from a regular cell phone. But as soon as you do, be sure and have a charger handy because any mobile data transfer is going to absolutely destroy the battery in hours. A full workday with 3g / 4g on under regular use conditions just isn't possible...

The Android system itself is also based off a fraud, or fantasy. They give you the idea of complete freedom, and the ability to do what ever comes you're way. In reality, the Android 2.2 system is the Epitome of bloat-ware. Ive never in my life seen an OS come with so much unnecessary garbage. And to top it all off, we're forced to have it... When I bought this phone I thought I was the root user, like the PC I'm typing this thread on. I though I was basically getting a PC in the palm of my hand. This couldn't be further from the truth. This problem upsets me more that the battery issue rely.

I plan on using this phone for quite awhile, and I'm locked into a 2 year agreement with Sprint. But I can only hope that next generation phones, and the companies that produce them address these problems that plague todays devices.

2c

Your post sounds crazy because you said your keeping the phone. Your post gets thrown out the window for that.

 

[mitchellvii]

Wow, the OP really had some high expectations for this phone. Let's see, 1 ghz cpu, amazing graphics, huge screen, awesome call quality, unlimited apps to download and gee whiz, he is unhappy his battery doesn't last 3 days?

If there was ever evidence that we have an alien spaceship in some underground bunker we have been stealing tech from, this phone is it. This tiny little slab does all of this stuff and 1/2 it's mass is really just the battery.

You say you thought you were a root user but you clearly know nothing about rooting your phone or taking advantage of some of the battery saving features in the customer kernels out there. It bugs you having to turn off 4g, bluetooth or wifi when you aren't using it? Does it also bother you having to turn off the lights in a room when you leave it? If you don't turn them off are you angry that your bill is so high?

You paid $200 lousy bucks for this miracle. It is officially the least expensive piece of tech I own. You wanted a handheld PC for $200?

The fact that you basically cannot get this phone anywhere right now means that you are vastly in the minority. Is it perfect? Nope. It is early-adopter tech and that is never perfect. The dual core 1.5 ghz models coming out this Christmas will make this look like a dog - but still, its a damned fine phone in the hands of someone who knows how to use it.

 

[mitchellvii]

Also, what the heck about Android 2.2 is bloatware? You mean HTC Sense is bloatware (perhaps it is), but Android 2.2 has zero bloat.