Help Froyo sucks!!!!

[ReUp]

Ever since I put Froyo on my phone it has caused nothing but problems...I'm rooted with cyanogen and running Launcher Pro plus...But I have tons of shit running on the phone all the time...My battery life has went to shit...I get about a half a days worth now...Plus my phone keeps shutting itself off for some reason and the only way to get it on is by taking out the battery...Before Froyo I had none of these problems...If someone can help I would really appreciate it...I'm ready to smash this phone...Was Froyo a joke put out by android...

 

[JustDroid]

FroYo is a great upgrade. My thoughts are that the problems might be related to the rom or the kernel you are running.

 

[ReUp]

What Rom are you running?

 

[JustDroid]

I am running the Fourth Wave by Adrynalyne and the KingKernel #3.

 

[dscribe]

Ok, let's see... you root and put one of the most experimental ROMs of vanilla froyo that is being adjusted for the incredible and a custom kernel and then when everything is not perfect you declare that "Froyo sucks"... all I can say is WOW, Wow, and wow... I never cease to be amazed.

 

[ReUp]

I am running the Fourth Wave by Adrynalyne and the KingKernel #3.

Thank you for the advice...

 

[JustDroid]

Come on guys, can't we all get along?

 

[dscribe]

All I will say is that if someone would just do a bit of reading before they haul off and make major experimental customizations to their phone, they might not be dissing a really good version of android instead of making a whole thread declaring that it sucks and saying things like "Was Froyo a joke put out by android..." Ok, I'll say no more.. have at it.

 

[ReUp]

All I will say is that if someone would just do a bit of reading before they haul off and make major experimental customizations to their phone, they might not be dissing a really good version of android instead of making a whole thread declaring that it sucks and saying things like "Was Froyo a joke put out by android..." Ok, I'll say no more.. have at it.

Well if you were to read some of the threads you will see that there are other people having trouble with Froyo...And I know friends of mine who have not rooted their phones and have had issues with the new Froyo update...And i get along with everyone...Just don't be a wise ass over the computer...If you didn't have anything good to say on the post you should have went to the next one...

 

[sabrewings]

My Froyo is great. Running Skyraider 3.0 RC2. Had some issues with SetCPU installed, but it's great without.

 

[drocny87]

I dont know but all im gonna say is that Froyo is a terrible upgrade coming from 2.1... froyo doesnt allow for a task killer to be used on your device plus it is a known issue that froyo is worse on battery life and slowing down your phone due to the useless atk that doesnt work....froyo has way too much shit running and the only way to close out an app the right way is to go to the applications in settings and force close????? why would froyo make you go through all that trouble of closing an app?? doesnt make too much sense to me....in my opinion froyo sucks....

 

[zemerick]

I dont know but all im gonna say is that Froyo is a terrible upgrade coming from 2.1... froyo doesnt allow for a task killer to be used on your device plus it is a known issue that froyo is worse on battery life and slowing down your phone due to the useless atk that doesnt work....froyo has way too much shit running and the only way to close out an app the right way is to go to the applications in settings and force close????? why would froyo make you go through all that trouble of closing an app?? doesnt make too much sense to me....in my opinion froyo sucks....

you seem to be vastly mis-understanding what is going on.

First, nothing in Froyo disallows ATK, and it can still be used just as before. The only things it can't get rid of are the "bloatware" extra apps added which are not really running and can be ignored anyways.

Apps should close out on their own. If the app is designed to actually be able to still run while in the background though ( such as Pandora ) it should have an option to exit it in the program ( again, like Pandora where you can press Menu and choose "Quit". )

Now, WHY does froyo make it somewhat difficult to force close an app? Same reason Windows does...you shouldn't be doing it every 5 seconds! That is only a last resort if something has gone wrong. That is NOT how you just close any app.

Killing tasks is not a clean way to close an app, and it actually requires starting an app and running it in the foreground where it eats up CPU to kill the app...which the vast majority of the time the app wasn't using any of the CPU to begin with. This however is not the case with poorly coded apps or bugged apps that either get stuck awake, or are locked up. You should actually do something about these apps, rather than stuffing them under the carpet with a task killer. Remember, Task Killers don't actually stop an app from keeping your phone awake...they just stop the app for the time being. Next time you run that app, it'll try to keep your phone awake again. Fix the app, and you don't need the task killer at all.

 

[Kelmar]

Come on guys, can't we all get along?

Great advice!!!


We should all follow it

 

[zemerick]

Great advice!!!


We should all follow it

<reads what Kelmar has to say, then to the Avatar>...I feel like I'm getting mixed signals here

 

[Kelmar]

Lol

 

[Mr. Link]

I have to agree I'm getting a little confused by people declaring this update sucks. Two things:

1.) You've chosen to mod your phone...that is always a potential problem.
2.) If you're having problems after the upgrade did you do a factory reset? Even though it's not required, I think it should have been heavily emphasized...solves a ton of issues!

 

[sabrewings]

you seem to be vastly mis-understanding what is going on.

First, nothing in Froyo disallows ATK, and it can still be used just as before. The only things it can't get rid of are the "bloatware" extra apps added which are not really running and can be ignored anyways.

Apps should close out on their own. If the app is designed to actually be able to still run while in the background though ( such as Pandora ) it should have an option to exit it in the program ( again, like Pandora where you can press Menu and choose "Quit". )

Now, WHY does froyo make it somewhat difficult to force close an app? Same reason Windows does...you shouldn't be doing it every 5 seconds! That is only a last resort if something has gone wrong. That is NOT how you just close any app.

Killing tasks is not a clean way to close an app, and it actually requires starting an app and running it in the foreground where it eats up CPU to kill the app...which the vast majority of the time the app wasn't using any of the CPU to begin with. This however is not the case with poorly coded apps or bugged apps that either get stuck awake, or are locked up. You should actually do something about these apps, rather than stuffing them under the carpet with a task killer. Remember, Task Killers don't actually stop an app from keeping your phone awake...they just stop the app for the time being. Next time you run that app, it'll try to keep your phone awake again. Fix the app, and you don't need the task killer at all.

Truth. Apparently it can't be said enough around here.

 

[blight007]

I agree the upgrade sucks on my stock dinc. Battery Life terrible, Bloatware, Did a factory reset and now my 3g/mobile network do not work (mobile network is stuck in turning on mode but if i put in airplane mode and switch back the 3g will work for 30 seconds), and now my wifes phone is doing the same thing. The upgrade is comparible from xp to vista. Only worse!!!

 

[ReUp]

See I wasn't the only person who has issues with Froyo...

 

[zemerick]

I agree the upgrade sucks on my stock dinc. Battery Life terrible, Bloatware, Did a factory reset and now my 3g/mobile network do not work (mobile network is stuck in turning on mode but if i put in airplane mode and switch back the 3g will work for 30 seconds), and now my wifes phone is doing the same thing. The upgrade is comparible from xp to vista. Only worse!!!

OK, first...people like you were the only problem with Vista ( IE: They took one look, had a problem and screamed it was a POS. Vista was a markable improvement over windows XP once individual developers properly updated their drivers. ) Sorry, but this one really grates on me. Yes, it had it's hiccups...so did ( and does ) XP. Same with 98, 95, 3.1, mac OSx, Ubuntu, even pocket calculators have problems. It is the nature of the beast. These things are so complex, yet incredibly sensitive that issues are completely unavoidable. On top of this, you should never judge a book after having read only the first page.

I do feel for you, and it sucks that you got caught with the bad luck...by the upgrade in and of itself is perfectly good. There is some extraneous factor that has affected things for you ( evidenced by the fact the vast majority of people don't have these problems. ) and we may never learn what that factor is, but VZ is working with people to help with their issues ( You are the proof here,"Called Verizon and they are sending me a new/refurb Unit." from another post by you. )

Calm down a bit, when you get your new phone try it out. Once you get settled into it, and have any problems solved, you will see that Froyo is nice and a markable improvement over 2.1

Truth. Apparently it can't be said enough around here.

It's to be expected though We still have to tell people we landed on the moon, etc.

 

[QMeli907]

I'm on stock OTA official Froyo, no root, and it blows. It has made my phone so slow its ridiculous. I use none of the new features, and have seen just the opposite of the said "battery and speed updates". My phone is slower and eats up more battery. Froyo is crap.

 

[zemerick]

I'm on stock OTA official Froyo, no root, and it blows. It has made my phone so slow its ridiculous. I use none of the new features, and have seen just the opposite of the said "battery and speed updates". My phone is slower and eats up more battery. Froyo is crap.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you haven't done a full factory reset and installed the latest flash update.

Please, feel free to drop the attitude and I would be glad to point you towards fixing any issues and helping you get the full Froyo experience, which DOES include battery and speed improvements.

 

[iowabowtech]

Your problem (OP) is not Froyo, it's a combination of Rom, kernel and perhaps restoration of previous files/data/settings. Only you know what went down there so I'm not accusing.

There are however a myriad of exceptionally stable 2.2 Rom/kernel combos out there. Frankly, it appears by many accounts that the devs have done better than HTC (not at all surprising) if all these stock Froyo problem threads are any indication.

 

[drocny87]

what some people in this thread are not understanding is that froyo is a mess...stock or root....both are terrible....2.1 had no issues....froyo from the beginning was bricking phones during the OTA update....you should not have to factory reset your phone to get an OTA upgrade to work properly....battery life, freezing, and task killers not working is what makes this os terrible...whether or not you have rooted your phone froyo is still bad...i agree with REUP...froyo sucks!!!

 

[zemerick]

what some people in this thread are not understanding is that froyo is a mess...stock or root....both are terrible....2.1 had no issues....froyo from the beginning was bricking phones during the OTA update....you should not have to factory reset your phone to get an OTA upgrade to work properly....battery life, freezing, and task killers not working is what makes this os terrible...whether or not you have rooted your phone froyo is still bad...i agree with REUP...froyo sucks!!!

Sorry, but you fail to realize the actual truth. I saw MORE threads and issues when the Inc first launched from people having problems with 2.1. Over time, they were fixed and things settled down.

Froyo is NOT a small update to the OS, but rather a sizable version upgrade. Most of it is behind the scenes changes. You just went from Vista to windows 7, so yes: it is expected to require a format/wipe/reset.

Battery life is improved ( people with decreased battery life have various causes of it, such as apps stuck awake. I and others are helping them, and MANY people have already reported getting back to normal or even improved life. ), I haven't seen any issues with freezing which actually suggests it is better than 2.1 as there were several threads about constant restarts, force closes, and freezes, and task killers not working is by design because the OS handles tasks and does it properly.