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BluRay's on my samsung vibrant

Hows that when I BUY MY OWN blu rays and put them on MY phone

It's always a gray area when it comes to ripping DVD's (Blu-ray included). I'm one who tends to agree that if a person buys the DVD he should be able to transfer the content to another device he owns. Even so, if you bypass the copy protection encryption you're technically in violation of the DMCA. That's why all these ripping programs (think SlySoft) are from companies located outside the USA.

Digital Millennium Copyright Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By the way, how many Gigs is a ripped Blu-ray movie?
 
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i remember when the PS3 first came out and they boasted how the bluray can hold something like 30 gigs, and then they said ''our new game, resistance, takes up a full blu ray disc!''

well some tech savvy guy broke in to the disc, found out that the Resistance game was only about 3 or so gigs large, and the rest was just filler, 1's and 0's and such.
 
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Hey guys just a heads up the FCC has made it legal to break copy protection on DVDs now blu ray is not written into the ruling yet but it is expected to be added in the future. The new ruling is suppose to be for uploading to YouTube a.d as a teaching and training aid for film students and schools so its kinda up to the person interpreting the ruling but it is legal now. Just thought I'd add this. I use DVD Fab works great and converts to mobile ps3 360 ect all within the program itself.
 
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Hey guys just a heads up the FCC has made it legal to break copy protection on DVDs now blu ray is not written into the ruling yet but it is expected to be added in the future. The new ruling is suppose to be for uploading to YouTube a.d as a teaching and training aid for film students and schools so its kinda up to the person interpreting the ruling but it is legal now. Just thought I'd add this. I use DVD Fab works great and converts to mobile ps3 360 ect all within the program itself.

The FCC doesn't have the authority to say it's okay to break Federal law. Would you please provide a source for this information?
 
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Ugh, that case said nothing dispositive about consumers' right to make copies for personal use. Even if it did comment on it, such commentary is dicta since it doesn't go to the resolution of the actual dispute in the case.

The fact remains that making copies of your own media for personal use (say, format shifting to put it on your phone or iPod) is protected under Fair Use. No case post-DMCA, AFAIK, has ever revisited this issue directly. Even if it did, the DMCA explicitly says that it won't disturb settled areas of Fair Use.

What is illegal under DMCA is to create or distribute tools that circumvent copyright protections. But once they're out in the wild, there's nothing illegal about using them for personal, non-commercial purposes.
 
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Ugh, that case said nothing dispositive about consumers' right to make copies for personal use. Even if it did comment on it, such commentary is dicta since it doesn't go to the resolution of the actual dispute in the case.

The fact remains that making copies of your own media for personal use (say, format shifting to put it on your phone or iPod) is protected under Fair Use. No case post-DMCA, AFAIK, has ever revisited this issue directly. Even if it did, the DMCA explicitly says that it won't disturb settled areas of Fair Use.

What is illegal under DMCA is to create or distribute tools that circumvent copyright protections. But once they're out in the wild, there's nothing illegal about using them for personal, non-commercial purposes.

Okay. Show me a source for your information.
 
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Okay. Show me a source for your information.

Okay, first read the DailyTech article. Notice something missing? Right, any mention that the court explicitly ruled on the right of consumers to make personal copies.

I'm having trouble tracking down the actual injunction order, but here's an article that quotes from it:

RealNetworks and the "Fair Use" Catch-22 - AppScout

"So while it may well be fair use for an individual consumer to store a backup copy of a personally-owned DVD on that individual's computer, a federal law has nonetheless made it illegal to manufacture or traffic in a device or tool that permits a consumer to make such copies," Patel wrote.

Or, put another way: "The DMCA makes illegal the act of trafficking in circumvention tools... The DMCA prohibits the circumvention of technological measures that guard copyrighted material, but does not prohibit the downstream or end use of those materials after circumvention has occurred."

In other words, it appears Patel is noting that while the law prohibits developers or vendors from designing and selling tools that enable copying, the act of copying (with the illegal tool, I presume) is not necessarily illegal. "The court will not hold that consumers do not have the 'fair use' right to make copies of CSS-protected DVD content simply because the DVD CCA would be harmed by such use of its licensed works," Patel wrote.


And that was entirely predictable, since consumers' rights were not at issue in that case, merely whether RealNetworks was violating the DMCA. Basic rule in jurisprudence is that the court shouldn't delve into areas that are not at issue. The case didn't involve a consumer as defendant, so any pronouncements about consumers' rights, either way, would have been irrelevant, dicta.

But interesting how the judge's commentary flies in the face of DailyTech's headline, eh? The judge even seems to suggest that the DMCA doesn't upset prior precedent regarding fair use. Again, the commentary isn't dispositive, but the judge at least seems to think consumer copying and DMCA can co-exist.

Have there been any post-DMCA consumer copying cases? If so, I'd like to see it.

As for the DMCA preserving traditional fair use exceptions, it's under Section 1201 (c)(1):
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=105_cong_bills&docid=f:h2281enr.txt.pdf

(c) OTHER RIGHTS, ETC., NOT AFFECTED.
 
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