Help Is it the 2.0 OS on the Droid ?

[cds36]

I was playing around with my friends droid and it was so much faster, snappier than my moment even though the droid sports a 550 mhz processor to the moments 800mhz processor. Is it just the android 2.0 os ? You can just tell the 2.0 os is so much better by far to 1.5, its really holding the moment back I feel from its true potential. I really do hope samsung updates the moment, I have been reading the posts about updates hopefully coming and I really hope samsung dosent drop the ball, only time will tell

 

[baddubbin]

the droid's processor is a more advanced processor, it is a better processor than the one in the moment

 

[arashed31]

The Droid uses a newer processor architecture that makes its 550MHz processor faster than the Moment's higher clocked processor, but much, much older architecture.

 

[njbianco]

I have herd the hero with the leaked version of android 2.1 is much much quicker so its passable but its also true what every1 else has said so far

 

[CriticalCritic]

It sounds like you guys are suggesting that we have an Olympic runner (Moment) vs a slower high schooler (Droid), but the high schooler is therefore supposed to win because it's a newer version?

I was under the impression that speed is speed is speed? Sure, new architecture means better power usage and efficiency. And suggesting that clocking one speed faster than another means NOTHING as to which is faster? How is that justified?

I mean, you are literally stating that one runner clocked in at 5mins, and one clocked in at 8minutes, and the 8 minute guy is therefore faster? I admit that I do not know the specifics of processors, but I do know that both are judged using the same measure of speed Please explain how speed does not equal speed? How it's not the outdated and inefficient Android OS that is causing the problem?

 

[cds36]

what im wondering is if 1.5 os is holding back the true potential of the moment, andif well see a huge difference if we get the 2.0 update

 

[njbianco]

what im wondering is if 1.5 os is holding back the true potential of the moment, andif well see a huge difference if we get the 2.0 update

I think thats exactly watsup

 

[mancow]

It's an old article but this guy uses some analogies to explain why clock speed is not the only factor that effects speed.


Clock Speed

It sounds like you guys are suggesting that we have an Olympic runner (Moment) vs a slower high schooler (Droid), but the high schooler is therefore supposed to win because it's a newer version?

I was under the impression that speed is speed is speed? Sure, new architecture means better power usage and efficiency. And suggesting that clocking one speed faster than another means NOTHING as to which is faster? How is that justified?

I mean, you are literally stating that one runner clocked in at 5mins, and one clocked in at 8minutes, and the 8 minute guy is therefore faster? I admit that I do not know the specifics of processors, but I do know that both are judged using the same measure of speed Please explain how speed does not equal speed? How it's not the outdated and inefficient Android OS that is causing the problem?

 

[CriticalCritic]

what im wondering is if 1.5 os is holding back the true potential of the moment, andif well see a huge difference if we get the 2.0 update

That's the point that I am trying to make. I don't see how the processor's 'architecture' makes a difference on the measured speed potential of said processor. Meaning that the inefficient OS is what is currently holding back the Moment. I expect the Moment will leave all others behind when the update hits, or at least see a startling difference in performance.

 

[CriticalCritic]

It's an old article but this guy uses some analogies to explain why clock speed is not the only factor that effects speed.


Clock Speed

Cool, thank you!
Judging from the article, it seems that the Droid processor could very well equal the Moment's processor. Though making the jump to surpass the Moment's speed did not seem possible. However as already stated, it's an old article so the new technology may now allow for that kind of multiplier difference? I dunno, but as the article also eluded to in the beginning, the operating system has a huge effect. So I guess only time will tell how much of a difference it will make

Either way, yeah, I think we can expect the new OS to make a big difference.

 

[baddubbin]

comparing clock speed between different architectures is pointless. if you look at modern cpus a 2.8ghz i7 is faster than a 3.4ghz phenom quad.

clock speed is simply the number of cycles per second... how much a given architecture does in a cycle will vary wildly from architecture to architecture..

 

[pastafarian]

Strange, When I played with the Droid I was expecting it to be significantly faster than my Moment considering the "faster" 2.0 and the newer chip architecture, but it wasn't.

 

[CriticalCritic]

comparing clock speed between different architectures is pointless. if you look at modern cpus a 2.8ghz i7 is faster than a 3.4ghz phenom quad.

clock speed is simply the number of cycles per second... how much a given architecture does in a cycle will vary wildly from architecture to architecture..

Yeah, I got that. Thanks Now I'm left wondering why the heck there is not a universal measurement used for them? Unless it has to do with the difficulty in accurately measuring data transfer in nanoseconds (or something to the effect of accurate timing?)

 

[Another Platonist]

Engadget had a great article that explains the difference between the ARM 11 chips (HTC Hero, Samsung Moment) and the ARM Cortex A8 chips (Palm Pre, Droid, and iPhone).
At the end of the day, Mhz is not Mhz. Still, I find the Moment to be plenty speedy for me.